Terrible Certainty,yeah. I remember I was 7 years old when this album came out. Along with Artillery and their ""Fear Of Tomorrow"" debut album,both albums introduced me to metal. Now,I can't imagine living without this music.
I have Terrible Certainty on vinyl from back in the day and that record certainly packs a punch. Some people believe the songwriting on that album isn't as strong but I would say it holds up very well to their other records.
Thanks for hitting the German thrash scene. Is Sodom or Destruction next? 1. Coma of Souls 2. Pleasure to Kill 3. Extreme Aggression 4. Violent Revolution 5. Terrible Certainty 6. Endless Pain 7. Gods of Violence 8. Hate Uber Alles 9. Phantom Antichrist
@@kevinm5957 it's just weird to me that someone who likes Violent Revolution completely dismisses Enemy of God which is a slightly improved version of Revolution and sounds exactly the same.
Yeah really interested to see Pete’s Sodom rankings. That’s a band with so many different eras that I’m always changing which one I’m playing the most. Right now my favorites are Code Red and M16- just massive crushing tone and riffs on those
Thanks pete this will help me fill in the kreator cd's i still want to get love this band after i saw them i had to get some albums they slayed live !!!!!!🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟
About time German Thrash got the recognition it definitely deserves. Any chance you could do a list of the 'best of the rest' show, bands like Assassin, Living Death, Necronomicon, etc.. smaller discographies but there are some real gems tucked away. Excellent show btw, can't wait for Sodom & Destruction
Very good ranking of the albums. Terrible Certainty is an excellent classic thrash-metal album. No downers, just pure rage from start to end. Love it! :)
Due to the large discography/ couldn’t put in as many spins. LOL. Couldn’t really do proper 1-15. However, for NOW anyway my top 5. 1- Extreme AGGRESSION/8️⃣9️⃣. 2-Pleasure to KILL/8️⃣6️⃣. 3- Gods of VIOLENCE/ 1️⃣7️⃣. 4- Coma of SOULS/9️⃣0️⃣. 5-Terrible CERTAINTY/8️⃣7️⃣. Obviously, with more time & spins this can 💯 change. Thanks Pete again for these album rankings 👍💯
Great band and excellent ranking Pete, love your comments. In all honesty I never heard a single album between "Coma of Souls" and "Violent Revolution", so I'm just going to leave them out of my ranking. It's a tough discography to rank, with many albums I go back and forth, except for my #1, that one is set in stone. :) So, this is the list I'm currently comfortable with: 11. Pleasure to Kill 10. Hate Über Alles 09. Gods of Violence 08. Hordes of Chaos 07. Enemy of God 06. Terrible Certainty 05. Extreme Aggression 04. Endless Pain 03. Coma of Souls 02. Phantom Antichrist 01. Violent Revolution
One of my favorite Death-Thrash Metal bands from the 80's. My Top 5 ranking is: 1. Endless Pain 2. Pleasure To Kill 3. Extreme Aggression 4. Coma Of Souls 5. Violent Revolution
My ranking for the Kreator albums would be🤘 15. Cause For Conflict 1995 14. Renewal 1992 13. Endorama 1999 12. Outcast 1997 11. Endless Pain 1985 10. Hate Uber Alles 2022 9. Violent Revolution 2001 8. Phantom Antichrist 2012 7. Gods Of Violence 2017 6. Terrible Certainty 1987 5. Hordes Of Chaos 2009 4. Enemy Of God 2005 3. Pleasure To Kill 1986 2. Extreme Aggression 1989 1. Coma Of Souls 1990
Coma of Souls at #10 is also surpising. A lot of Kreator fans would name it their favourite album, it doesn't deserve to be that low on the list. Classic album, probably a perfect mix of melody and brutality they ever had.
@@neilbower9052 i don't mind opinions, but to rank it at 10th place is strange if you're a metal fan. basically Pete says it's their worst album aside from the horrible 90's era. "Coma of Souls" - their worst album?! come on, this is nuts! if you like thrash metal this is a masterpiece record.
Agreed. Odd take. Coma of Souls is my favorite album in multiple categories. Favorite from Kreator, favorite from 1990, possibly my favorite thrash album.
Finally watched this. Great ranking Pete. My top 3 are: Pleasure To Kill, Enemy of God and Violent Revolution. Love the guitar of Sami. He's also in the progressive metal band Barren Earth who are well worth following.
Sami Yli-Sirniö is also playing in another great band called Waltari. It´s a Finnish very excentric cross over band. I recommend everybody to check them out. Their album So Fine! from 1994 is a good starting point.
@@carl-johanfougstedt199 I totally get it and So Fine is a great album! For me it was such a shock to see a Finnish band featured in British Metal Hammer magazine. They gave Torcha a 5/5 review and called the band "the new Faith No More" 😂 It was the first time a Finnish band was praised like that abroad. When So Fine was released they called it a disappointment and never talked about the band again. I liked that album very much too but I kinda felt the genre swapping was a bit forced. Like combining Sámi girls' yoik with techno beat and thrash metal. I mean enough is enough! 😅
@@petrilampela I really like both albums and I think that the crazy cross over stuffs are part of Waltari´s charm. On the other hand I would think that several Finnish bands should have been featured in magazines like British Metal Hammer. Finland is famous for heavy metal bands after all.
@@carl-johanfougstedt199 Actually as crazy as it sounds Finland was not famous for heavy metal bands at all. Waltari was the first one to make little waves around Europe and opened the gates for other bands to follow. Of course later many Finnish bands were featured regularly in Metal Hammer and other European media (HIM, Children of Bodom, Nightwish etc.)
Love Kreator, one of my all time favourite bands period. My ranking: 15: Endorama 14: Renewal 13: Outcast 12: Cause for Conflict 11: Phantom Antichrist 10: Endless Pain 9: Gods of Violence 8: Hate Uber Alles 7: Hordes of Chaos 6: Enemy of God 5: Violent Revolution 4: Extreme Aggresion 3: Coma of Souls 2: Pleasure to Kill 1: Terrible Certainty
Everyone I know is a huge Virgin Steele fan . I only like the debut album, and Guardian of the Flame myself. There is way too many Symphonic Power Metal bands out there, and I don't like anything they do either. As far as that style goes, David Le Freis and Friends are better than most, but I don't like the direction that Virgin Steele took after Jack Star left. Oddly enough I don't like the Jack Star solo direction either. I do however like Original Sin with David's sister, the Exorcist project with David, and both Phantom Lord albums with Jack Star is great. Not 100% sure if Jack Star performed with Lords of the Crimson Alliance, but they are one of my favorite bands
"Renewal" is one of the most unique sounding Metal albums I know. Vocals are very very bad on this one and the production is bizarre. But since I like those more experimental albums from big Metal bands, it's an album I sometimes return to. "Cause for conflict" is great and very aggressive. Totally underrated album!
I absolutely love this band and here is my top five: 1. Extreme Aggression 2. Pleasure to Kill 3. Terrible Certainty 4. Hordes of Chaos 5. Enemy of God
Terrible Certainty has always been my favorite also. It never gets picked number one on lists. Pleasure To Kill is such a classic it always gets number 1. It is my number 2.
Awesome, my top 3 are: 1.) Pleasure to Kill 2.) Endless Pain 3.) Terrible Certainty And, as a German, I’m looking forward to your Sodom & Destruction ranking!! ⚡️🤘
Extreme Aggression was and still is to me, a masterwork. “Love Us or Hate Us”, we felt heard as angry young teens. We loved our metal and didn’t care what our teachers and the popular kids thought. I only found out a few years about that Mille was a member of the vegan community. 🤘🌱
Nice ranking Pete, I'm mostly with you but here's my top Five 5 - Enemy of God (that Andy Sneap production is just massive) 4 - Hordes of Chaos (to have so much raw aggression on their 12th album???) 3 - Coma of Souls (a thrash classic I got when I was 16) 2 - Extreme Aggression (ditto 15) 1 - Terrible Certainty (saw the video for Toxic Trace when I 14 instant fan for life!) Love Kreator, except Endorama, its not good...
"Hordes of Chaos" has a rawer sound because Moses recorded the basic backing tracks live with the band playing together in the live room. Those are all live takes, only vocals and guitar solos were overdubbed.
The first 5 albums are legendary. "Violent Revolution" and "Enemy Of God" are also great. I"m disappointed in their more recent albums as they sound like a typical Euro-power metal band but with harsher vocals. I'd love to hear a complete remix of "Renewal" as I feel there are some great songs buried under the poor production.
Unpopular opinion I actually prefer Kreator’s recent output more than their 80s and early 90s stuff. From Enemy Of God up to Hate Über Alles are perfect to almost perfect albums IMO. The last 2 made my end of the year top 20 list and Phantom Antichrist was my favorite album of 2012.
1) Endless Pain 2) Extreme Aggressions 3) Pleasure to Kill 4) Terrible Certainty 5) Coma of Souls 6) Violent Revolution 7) Enemy of God 8) Phantom Antichrist 9) Gods of Violence 10) Hordes of Chaos 11) Hate Uber Alles 12) Renewal 13) Outcast 14) Cause for Conflict 15) Endorama
Pete have you listen to Hyades album And The Worst Is Yet To Come? I think it's a pretty underrated album. IDK why you never hear anyone talk about it. Also it's got a pretty sick cover.
My rank: 1 Pleasure to Kill 2 Extreme Aggression 3 Terrible Certainty 4 Endless Pain 5 Enemy of God 6 Coma of Souls 7 Phantom Antichrist 8 Hordes of Chaos 9 Violent Revolution 10 Gods of Violence 11 Endorama 12 Hate Über Alles 13 Renewal 14 Cause for Conflict 15 Outcast
I'm not a huge fan of harsh vocals either, but been listening to that type of vocals since Venom in the early 80's, and I think Mille's vocals are easier on the ear than many others
This is why I'm only just getting into Slayer, I couldn't do it. I love the Musicality but the vocals are not my thing, as someone who loves Thrash like Exodus, Metallica, Testament, Megadeth etc style... the harsh stuff still is hard for me
My Ranking of Kreator 1. Pleasure to Kill 2. Endless Pain 3. Extreme Agression 4. Coma of Souls 5. Terrible Certainly 6. Gods of Violence 7. Renewal 8. Violent Revolution 9. Enemy of God 10. Hordes of Chaos 11. Hate Uber Alles 12. Phantom Antichrist 13. Cause of Conflict 14. Outcast 15. Endorama
1: Extreme Aggression 2: Coma of Souls 3: Endless Pain 4: Terrible Certainty 5: Pleasure to Kill 6: Cause for Conflict 7: Phantom Antichrist 8: Hordes of Chaos 9: Enemy of God 10 Gods of Violence 11:Hate Uber Alles 12: Violent Revolution 13 Renewal 14 Outcast 15: Endorama
I loved endorama, lol. I thought it refreshing to hear different ( more mature? ) Kreator. Only a couple songs kinda sound like my dying bride. I agree with Pete 99% of time, love sea of tranquility. As I never spent much time with Endorama, I find myself loving this album in 2024. Kreator held back a touch, more in control. I don't mind more polished at all, if songs are good. Most of these songs sound really good to me. Peace!
I enjoy their mid-to-late-'90s output a lot. I feel they were oddly adept at goth- or industrial-adjacent metal, lol. But I recognize this is a minority view. Great ranking video as always.
1 Pleasure to Kill 2 Extreme Aggression 3 Endless Pain 4 Terrible Certainty 5 Coma of Souls 6 Enemy of God 7 Gods of Violence 8 Violent Revolution 9 Phantom Antichrist 10 Hordes of Choas 11 Hate Uber Alles 12 Cause for Conflict 13 Renewal 14 Outcast 15 Endorama
I listened to them all a couple of years ago, as well as all of the ones from Sodom, Destruction, and Tankard. I definitely will not be doing a thorough ranking right now - as I haven't spent a whole lot of time with most of them yet. I do agree that most of their '90s albums are not up to the par, but this is typical of many thrash bands all over the world. Most of them had badass music earlier in their careers, as well as more recently - with their mid- period stuff (late '90s/early 2000s) being mediocre. I really dig their first four albums, as well as everything they've done in the 21st Century so far. I actually own their last two, Gods of Violence and Hate Uber Alles. My favorite, though, is actually their 1990 album Coma of Souls!
1.Plesure to kill 2. extreme agression 3 endless pain 4. coma of souls 5. terrible 6. Gods of Violence 7.Hordes of Chaos 8.Phantom Antichrist 9.Cause for Conflict 10.Violent Revolution 11.Hate über alles 12.Enemy of God 13.Renewal 14.Outcast 15.Endorama
Lesgoo, that's what we've been waiting for! This band is special to me (maybe even in my top 5) and they're one of the few thrash bands that revamped their style and still put out classics! My list: 15) Renewal. I can't stand it, have never been able to sit through more than a few songs. Mille's vocals are awful, production's annoying. 14) Cause for Conflict. Only slightly better, but still not worth anyone's time. 13) Endorama Again, interchangable. Even with all the whispers & vocal nonsense, it's more passable to me. 12) Outcast Well, Phobia is a live staple (pretty solid for only 3 riffs), some other industrial stuff here, almost Rammstein-esque. It's just there. 11) Hate Uber Alles Their worst album in decades. Production is super uneven, choruses lazily dumbed down. I love the title track, but that's it (Demonic Future & Killer of Jesus are OK). 10) Terrible Certainty From here on I think these are good albums. If they re-recorded this one with modern production, I'd place it higher. Behind the Mirror, title track are great. All songs sound a bit... Clunky. 9) Hordes of Chaos The title track is a classic. Like Demon Prince, War Curse, other stuff is just meh, but still a decent album. Has a "live sound" to it, like Maiden's Final Frontier. 8) Enemy of God Violent Revolution 2.0 with some better songs, but less consistency. Highlights: Title track, Suicide Terrorist, Impossible Brutality, Under a Blackened Sky. 7) Violent Revolution I think they did better albums in this style, but it's a strong album. Reconquering the Throne, title track, Ghetto War, All of the Same Blood, Second Awakening, System Decay are great! 6) Extreme Aggression I actually don't care for half of the songs here, but the rest is fantastic! Title track, Betrayer, Fatal Energy... Great production, drumming , some stone cold classics, but some albums are even better! 5) Endless Pain Banger fun, even if some songs aren't that memorable or strong, I'd still spin this whole album. Flag of Hate is my favorite Kreator song. Ventor vocals are fun, Mille sounds black metal here! 4) Coma of Souls This one I keep revisiting, because even the less known tracks are great! The 1st half virtually perfect, 2nd half has Agents of Brutality & Material World Paranoia, so still killer! 3) Pleasure to Kill Their most memorable record, I just don't feel the need to re-listen to it. The production is so cool, feels like Ventor is playing with skeleton bones instead of drumsticks! Album cover is perfect! 2) Gods of Violence Yes, I actually prefer this to Pleasure to Kill now, it's just more fun to revisit, has more variety, memorable solos, great hooks (albeit simple). And it got me into Kreator. 1) Phantom Antichrist Bonus track version is a must with Wolfchild & Iron Destiny! I just love pretty much every song here. YOUR HEAVEN... MY HELL!!!
1. Flag of Hate ( Take Their Lives was a masterpiece) 2. Pleasure to Kill ( Death is Your Savior more Slayer than Slayer) 3. Endless Pain ( Tormentor) 4. Terrible Certainty ( Behind the Mirror ) 5. Coma of Souls ( Terror Zone) 6. Extreme Agression ( Some Pain Will Last) Don't like anything beyond these albums. I especially like the albums that featured Ventor on Lead Vocals on some of the tracks. They should have continued that tradition. It offered some variety.
Not in any order.. These are the 5 albums i know most by them.. -------> Kreator - Phantom Antichrist Kreator - Pleasure To Kill Kreator - Extreme Aggression Kreator - Coma Of Souls Kreator - Terrible Certainty (the statues on the cover may have inspired the band GHOST.. LOL..) Great but i forgot Hate uber alles..
Nice ranking Mark, you do not think much of Endless Pain? All Kreator albums are solid, but I have to say Phantom was not a favorite and it is your #1. I will have to revisit it. Don't get me wrong, I like it, but it would be in my bottom tier.
@@yokerecords803 Hi Yoke.. I don't think i ever heard "Endless Pain".. Will have to check it out.. If i heard it before it was in passing and i don't remember.. Phantom Antichrist i enjoyed but my list isn't in any order.. Coz the ones mentioned i really liked but haven't heard in ages.. Going to have to go through their albums soon.. Hope having a great day our friend..
I see now you say not in any order, I missed that :). Endless Pain is their most raw album. Very early Death Metal style. I think you'll love it. Stay well you guys!!
@@yokerecords803 Hi Yoke.. LOL No Problem.. I will be listening to Endless Pain very soon at least on Tuesday.. Hope you are having a great day our friend..
Kreator is one of my favourite thrash metal bands, they have a very consistant catalogue which I usually divide into 3 parts: the classic thrash period 85-90, the experimental period 91-99, and the modern period 2000-present day. I prefer the most recent era because their music has become more complex and has more melody. The early albums are fine but too extreme for me, except Coma of Souls which is great and more accessible. The 90's era is just horrible, I don't even rank those albums. And the last one from 2022 I haven't heard yet. So here's my list: 1. Enemy of God 2. Violent Revolution 3. Coma of Souls 4. Phantom Antichrist 5. Gods of Violence 6. Terrible Certainty 7. Pleasure to Kill 8. Endless Pain 9. Extreme Aggression 10. Hordes of Chaos
15 Endorama 14 Renewal 13 Hate über alles 12 Outcast 11 Cause for Conflict 10 Hordes of Chaos 9 Enemy of God 8 Gods of Violence 7 Violent Revolution 6 Phantom Antichrist 5 Extreme Aggression 4 Endless Pain 3 Coma of Souls 2 Terrible Certainty 1 Pleasure to Kill
I suppose my top 3 would be Terrible Certainty, Extreme Aggression and Coma of Souls. I remember the first time I heard Renewal, thinking, "WTF is going on?!" Lol.
Too bad you couldn't include the awesome Take Their Lives and Awakening of the Gods and Impossible To Cure etc. from the EP's. But awesome all the same. 1st 2 albums and Phantom Antichrist are my faves. Terrible Certainty 4th.
1. Phantom Antichrist 2. Extreme Aggression 3. Violent Revolution 4. Enemy Of God 5. Gods Of Violence 6. Hate Uber Alles 7. Coma Of Souls 8. Pleasure To Kill 9. Terrible Certainty 10.Hordes Of Chaos 11.Outcast 12.Cause For Conflict 13.Endless Pain 14.Renewal 15.Endorama
I'm really big fan of their 2001-present period. My top 10: 1. Hordes of Chaos (2009) 2. Phantom Antichrist (2012) 3. Violent Revolution (2001) 4. Gods of Violence (2017) 5. Enemy of God (2005) 6. Coma of Souls (1990) 7. Extreme Aggression (1989) 8. Hate über Alles (2022) 9. Terrible Certainty (1987) 10. Pleasure to Kill (1985)
Hordes of Chaos at #1, interesting... Do you really like how this album is produced? I'm just curious because I can't listen to this album without having a headache, it's so loud and overproduced.
@@ffghfdsgfgdgsfhgsf I never had problem with production of Hordes of Chaos and quallity of the songs speak for themselves. Album is mixed by Colin Richardson and that men can't go wrong. All Kreator releases from 2001 onward are masterpieces in my book (first five releases on the list are actually all number one), with exception of the last one (Hate über Alles) which was a little letdown.
@@MegaModulator I like the songs on "Hordes" too but I can never get through the terrible production of this record, it reminds me of Slayer's "God Hates Us All" in terms of aggressive loudness. I wish this record had been produced by Andy Sneap who was responsible for the previous two albums which I absolutely adore.
@@ffghfdsgfgdgsfhgsf You'll be glad about this news: "German thrash metal veterans have a new box set compiling their 2005 album “Enemy Of God” and its 2009 follow-up “Hordes Of Chaos“. Both albums have newly been remastered for this release, which has been lined up for May 24th. Among the included offerings are bonus tracks, plus a 2005 live set captured at the annual ‘Wacken Open Air‘ festival." Sorry for the late response...
Did you mean Mille tried to sound on Renewal (1992) as Metallica on The Black Album instead? because Load was released in 1996. Although I think he was trying to go more for the hardcore vocals during that era. I have been a fan since Please to Kill but I will take the middle era over the last few albums., which sounds boring and super clean. Cheers !
Compared to: - Scorpions' "Pure Instinct" and "Eye II Eye" - Helloween's "Chameleon" - Accept's "Eat The Heat" - Metallica's "Load", Endorama is not that bad.
Those albums like Renewal and Cause for Conflict and Endromada did nothing for me though Outcast had Phobia so it’s good for that one song at least. The 85-90 era was top notch and as far as the “comeback” period goes I really liked Violent Revolution but everything after was just okay or in the case of their past few sounded a bit too Gothenburg for me. Protector (also from Germany) keeps getting better but Kreator is sounding more like Arch Enemy which I’m not too fond of. My ranking from worst to best Endromada Renewal Cause for Conflict Outcast Hate Uber Alles Gods of Violence Hordes of Chaos Phantom Antichrist Enemy of God Violent Revolution Coma of Souls Extreme Aggression Terrible Certainty Pleasure to Kill Endless Pain
Seems to me they adopted some of the tropes of power metal on later albums with the “epic” chorus’s. Not digging that vibe at all. The vocals are a big turn off nowadays. I miss that aggressive screeching he used to be the master of. I agree that some of the middle period albums are a bit wonky sounding although I really enjoy Renewal for the bleak atmosphere. Surprisingly I really loved Endorama. I f’n love the riffing on Shadowland. I’ve always been a huge fan of Coroner so Tommy joining was a big deal to me but it seems the wasted his talent. There is a new wave vibe I have a soft spot for. Surely not a popular opinion but it is what it is. The cream of the crop for me is Terrible Certainty, Extreme Aggression and Coma of Souls. The early albums were great for the time but didn’t age well for me.
Finally something for me 1. Coma of Souls 2. Extreme Aggression 3. Terrible Certainty 4. Pleasure to Kill 5. Cause for Conflict 6. Endless Pain 7. Renewal 8. Violent Revolution 9. Phantom Antichrist 10. Outcast Btw Ventor is not on every Kreator album. Mille is the only member of this band that's on every band's release. btw Renewal doesn't sound awful,if you want polished sound go and listen to bon jovi.
It sounds terrible...come on. Even the first album, as raw as it is, sounds spectacular next to Renewal. Worst sounding drums and guitars of any Kreator album.
@@seaoftranquilityprog according to Mille they wanted more underground sound and with those songs it works. The songs are very good in fact (Karmic Wheel, great oriental riffs and those eerie Budd Dwyer words in the background). More memorable and not as cheesy as their last efforts. I remember when it came out I wasn't a huge fan of this album cos I expected another Coma of Souls but now I enjoy Renewal. Plus, Coma of Souls at 10.... well...
Back in the 80s I definitely didn't like the vocals. Over the years I've come around on harsher vocals, but I just don't like this guy's voice. That being said, they were good when I saw them open for Mercyful Fate in 2022.
The only thing that really surprised me on your ranking is "Hordes of Chaos" being over "Violent Revolution"... I've never liked "Hordes" because it's sooo overproduced, so loud and noisy that I can barely listen to the music without having a headache. It's literally painful. What an awful sounding record. The production is just terrible. I wish they had kept Andy Sneap because Moses Schneider completely ruined this record in my opinion. "Hordes" reminds me of albums like "God Hates Us All" and "Death Magnetic" which were involved into infamous volume wars and therefore have the same production issues.
Obviously all their 90's albums suck, they are just awful. So clearly they are at the bottom of the list. I've listened to them maybe once and never come back. And the first four records are predictably the top four, I can agree with that. It's a popular opinion among the fans. Although I prefer their later stuff in recent years a lot more. They have more melody and complexity compared to the early ones. I just don't find those early records fascinating any more. They are good for what they are. But today they sound dated to me.
I love the experimental albums🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻
Yeah,I agree. I think Endorama deserves a place in the middle of the ranking list. And Renewal is so brutal! I love it!
Renewal and Cause for Conflict are good albums, especially the latter. It brings back alot of classic sounding thrash and is a fun album overall.
I would rather listen to Renewal or Cause For Conflict than listen to Violent Revolution.
Saw them live in 2023. What an amazing show that was! Have to say the first two records are my favourite.
Terrible Certainty,yeah. I remember I was 7 years old when this album came out. Along with Artillery and their ""Fear Of Tomorrow"" debut album,both albums introduced me to metal. Now,I can't imagine living without this music.
Awesome. Artillery are another great band. By Inheritance is an awesome album.
Nice to see “Terrible certainty “ getting some well deserved love
I have Terrible Certainty on vinyl from back in the day and that record certainly packs a punch. Some people believe the songwriting on that album isn't as strong but I would say it holds up very well to their other records.
Super chuffed to see my fav Kreator album "Terrible Certainty" as your number 1! Great rundown of their discography too.
Thanks for hitting the German thrash scene. Is Sodom or Destruction next?
1. Coma of Souls
2. Pleasure to Kill
3. Extreme Aggression
4. Violent Revolution
5. Terrible Certainty
6. Endless Pain
7. Gods of Violence
8. Hate Uber Alles
9. Phantom Antichrist
Where's Enemy of God? One of their best records, especially if you like their later stuff. I always see it as a Violent Revolution part 2.
@@ffghfdsgfgdgsfhgsfdidn’t make my list, glad you like it more
@@kevinm5957 it's just weird to me that someone who likes Violent Revolution completely dismisses Enemy of God which is a slightly improved version of Revolution and sounds exactly the same.
Yeah really interested to see Pete’s Sodom rankings. That’s a band with so many different eras that I’m always changing which one I’m playing the most. Right now my favorites are Code Red and M16- just massive crushing tone and riffs on those
@@subson23my top 2 Sodom albums are Agent Orange and M-16.
Thanks pete this will help me fill in the kreator cd's i still want to get love this band after i saw them i had to get some albums they slayed live !!!!!!🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟
My favorites:
1. Pleasure To Kill (1986)
2. Coma Of Souls (1990)
3. Phantom Antichrist (2012)
4. Enemy Of God (2005)
I had Extreme Agression on cassette back in the day. Was SUCH a shock to my system. Raw, extreme, edgy, angular.thrash! Still amazing! ❤#Kreator
The first five on top, the modern albums after that and the 90's albums down the bottom. :)
Great video! I love the great Kreatorrrrr!!! 🤘🏼
About time German Thrash got the recognition it definitely deserves. Any chance you could do a list of the 'best of the rest' show, bands like Assassin, Living Death, Necronomicon, etc.. smaller discographies but there are some real gems tucked away.
Excellent show btw, can't wait for Sodom & Destruction
Very good ranking of the albums. Terrible Certainty is an excellent classic thrash-metal album. No downers, just pure rage from start to end. Love it! :)
Well done I had a few of their albums in the 90's. I bought them Used.
Due to the large discography/ couldn’t put in as many spins. LOL. Couldn’t really do proper 1-15. However, for NOW anyway my top 5. 1- Extreme AGGRESSION/8️⃣9️⃣. 2-Pleasure to KILL/8️⃣6️⃣. 3- Gods of VIOLENCE/ 1️⃣7️⃣. 4- Coma of SOULS/9️⃣0️⃣. 5-Terrible CERTAINTY/8️⃣7️⃣. Obviously, with more time & spins this can 💯 change. Thanks Pete again for these album rankings 👍💯
Great list. Extreme Aggression is my favorite Kreator album as well.👍🤘
@@SuperStrik9 👍💯
Great band and excellent ranking Pete, love your comments. In all honesty I never heard a single album between "Coma of Souls" and "Violent Revolution", so I'm just going to leave them out of my ranking. It's a tough discography to rank, with many albums I go back and forth, except for my #1, that one is set in stone. :) So, this is the list I'm currently comfortable with:
11. Pleasure to Kill
10. Hate Über Alles
09. Gods of Violence
08. Hordes of Chaos
07. Enemy of God
06. Terrible Certainty
05. Extreme Aggression
04. Endless Pain
03. Coma of Souls
02. Phantom Antichrist
01. Violent Revolution
Legendary band. Extreme Aggression is my favorite album by them. I remember the first time I saw the music video for Betrayer and it blew me away.
One of my favorite Death-Thrash Metal bands from the 80's. My Top 5 ranking is:
1. Endless Pain
2. Pleasure To Kill
3. Extreme Aggression
4. Coma Of Souls
5. Violent Revolution
Death Metal?
I hear ya Latex, primarily Thrash but Endless Pain was Death Metal.@@LatexCult
@@yokerecords803EP is mostly raw Blackened Thrash and Norwegian Black Metal huge influence.
Great description, I agree. Flag Of Hate is great no matter what you call it. Stay well.@@LatexCult
Just got around discovering these guys......wow
My Top 3: Extreme Aggression, Pleasure to Kill and Renewal.
Great catalogue.
Cheers.
My ranking for the Kreator albums would be🤘
15. Cause For Conflict 1995
14. Renewal 1992
13. Endorama 1999
12. Outcast 1997
11. Endless Pain 1985
10. Hate Uber Alles 2022
9. Violent Revolution 2001
8. Phantom Antichrist 2012
7. Gods Of Violence 2017
6. Terrible Certainty 1987
5. Hordes Of Chaos 2009
4. Enemy Of God 2005
3. Pleasure To Kill 1986
2. Extreme Aggression 1989
1. Coma Of Souls 1990
Nice, love Kreator especially the 80s , Coma of Souls, and the more recent years since Violent Revolution
I’m seeing Kreator in November
Coma of Souls at #10 is also surpising. A lot of Kreator fans would name it their favourite album, it doesn't deserve to be that low on the list. Classic album, probably a perfect mix of melody and brutality they ever had.
Higher in your list, lower in his, that's called 'difference of opinion', stops the world being a boring place
@@neilbower9052 i don't mind opinions, but to rank it at 10th place is strange if you're a metal fan. basically Pete says it's their worst album aside from the horrible 90's era. "Coma of Souls" - their worst album?! come on, this is nuts! if you like thrash metal this is a masterpiece record.
Agreed. Odd take. Coma of Souls is my favorite album in multiple categories. Favorite from Kreator, favorite from 1990, possibly my favorite thrash album.
1) Pleasure To Kill
2) Extreme Aggression
3) Endless Pain
4) Terrible Certainty
5) Coma Of Souls
Don't care much for the rest
Finally watched this. Great ranking Pete. My top 3 are: Pleasure To Kill, Enemy of God and Violent Revolution. Love the guitar of Sami. He's also in the progressive metal band Barren Earth who are well worth following.
I agree with this
Nice, my top three are exactly in that order as well, with number one being for the same reason!
Sami Yli-Sirniö is also playing in another great band called Waltari. It´s a Finnish very excentric cross over band. I recommend everybody to check them out. Their album So Fine! from 1994 is a good starting point.
In my opinion "Torcha!" is their greatest album by far. It's not as all over the place with the changing genres and styles as So Fine.
@@petrilampela Torcha! is an amazing album too. I just have a more personal relationships with So Fine!
@@carl-johanfougstedt199 I totally get it and So Fine is a great album! For me it was such a shock to see a Finnish band featured in British Metal Hammer magazine. They gave Torcha a 5/5 review and called the band "the new Faith No More" 😂 It was the first time a Finnish band was praised like that abroad. When So Fine was released they called it a disappointment and never talked about the band again. I liked that album very much too but I kinda felt the genre swapping was a bit forced. Like combining Sámi girls' yoik with techno beat and thrash metal. I mean enough is enough! 😅
@@petrilampela I really like both albums and I think that the crazy cross over stuffs are part of Waltari´s charm. On the other hand I would think that several Finnish bands should have been featured in magazines like British Metal Hammer. Finland is famous for heavy metal bands after all.
@@carl-johanfougstedt199 Actually as crazy as it sounds Finland was not famous for heavy metal bands at all. Waltari was the first one to make little waves around Europe and opened the gates for other bands to follow. Of course later many Finnish bands were featured regularly in Metal Hammer and other European media (HIM, Children of Bodom, Nightwish etc.)
AWESOME PICKS PERFECT ORDER !!!
Love Kreator, one of my all time favourite bands period. My ranking:
15: Endorama
14: Renewal
13: Outcast
12: Cause for Conflict
11: Phantom Antichrist
10: Endless Pain
9: Gods of Violence
8: Hate Uber Alles
7: Hordes of Chaos
6: Enemy of God
5: Violent Revolution
4: Extreme Aggresion
3: Coma of Souls
2: Pleasure to Kill
1: Terrible Certainty
Coma Of Souls is definitely my favorite. I saw them live last year and got to meet them through doing VIP.
Hi Pete! Please rank Virgin Steele! My favorite band! They aren't talked about enough!
You Sir are a Noble Savage!
@@RuthlessMetalYT I have been asking you to rank Virgin Steele too, but to no avail 😞
Everyone I know is a huge Virgin Steele fan . I only like the debut album, and Guardian of the Flame myself. There is way too many Symphonic Power Metal bands out there, and I don't like anything they do either. As far as that style goes, David Le Freis and Friends are better than most, but I don't like the direction that Virgin Steele took after Jack Star left. Oddly enough I don't like the Jack Star solo direction either. I do however like Original Sin with David's sister, the Exorcist project with David, and both Phantom Lord albums with Jack Star is great. Not 100% sure if Jack Star performed with Lords of the Crimson Alliance, but they are one of my favorite bands
I haven't heard half of the albums unfortunately. :) @@PortugueseMACPOW
1. Extreme Aggression
2. Violent Revolution
3. Pleasure to Kill
4. Coma of Souls
5. Endless Pain
6. Terrible Certainty
7. Enemy of God
8. Renewal
"Renewal" is one of the most unique sounding Metal albums I know. Vocals are very very bad on this one and the production is bizarre. But since I like those more experimental albums from big Metal bands, it's an album I sometimes return to.
"Cause for conflict" is great and very aggressive. Totally underrated album!
Top Five:
1) Extreme Aggression
2) Enemy Of God
3) Coma Of Souls
4) Hordes Of Chaos
5) Violent Revolution
I absolutely love this band and here is my top five:
1. Extreme Aggression
2. Pleasure to Kill
3. Terrible Certainty
4. Hordes of Chaos
5. Enemy of God
Terrible Certainty has always been my favorite also. It never gets picked number one on lists. Pleasure To Kill is such a classic it always gets number 1. It is my number 2.
Awesome, my top 3 are:
1.) Pleasure to Kill
2.) Endless Pain
3.) Terrible Certainty
And, as a German, I’m looking forward to your Sodom & Destruction ranking!! ⚡️🤘
Extreme Aggression was and still is to me, a masterwork. “Love Us or Hate Us”, we felt heard as angry young teens. We loved our metal and didn’t care what our teachers and the popular kids thought.
I only found out a few years about that Mille was a member of the vegan community. 🤘🌱
Terrible Certainty is my favorite also!!🤘🖤
Nice ranking Pete, I'm mostly with you but here's my top Five
5 - Enemy of God (that Andy Sneap production is just massive)
4 - Hordes of Chaos (to have so much raw aggression on their 12th album???)
3 - Coma of Souls (a thrash classic I got when I was 16)
2 - Extreme Aggression (ditto 15)
1 - Terrible Certainty (saw the video for Toxic Trace when I 14 instant fan for life!)
Love Kreator, except Endorama, its not good...
"Hordes of Chaos" has a rawer sound because Moses recorded the basic backing tracks live with the band playing together in the live room. Those are all live takes, only vocals and guitar solos were overdubbed.
Saw them on the Enemy of God tour…blew me away!
The first 5 albums are legendary. "Violent Revolution" and "Enemy Of God" are also great. I"m disappointed in their more recent albums as they sound like a typical Euro-power metal band but with harsher vocals. I'd love to hear a complete remix of "Renewal" as I feel there are some great songs buried under the poor production.
I have to admit that I only know 5 or 6 albums by kreator. So I take this ranking to make me more familiar with Petrozzas troop.
coma & extreme aggression my 2 fav kreator albums for me nothing comes close 😊
I love Renewal espicailly Winter Martyrium- There I said it.
Unpopular opinion
I actually prefer Kreator’s recent output more than their 80s and early 90s stuff. From Enemy Of God up to Hate Über Alles are perfect to almost perfect albums IMO. The last 2 made my end of the year top 20 list and Phantom Antichrist was my favorite album of 2012.
I have the same preferences as you, just starting a little earlier - with Violent Revolution, what a great comeback for the band.
1) Endless Pain
2) Extreme Aggressions
3) Pleasure to Kill
4) Terrible Certainty
5) Coma of Souls
6) Violent Revolution
7) Enemy of God
8) Phantom Antichrist
9) Gods of Violence
10) Hordes of Chaos
11) Hate Uber Alles
12) Renewal
13) Outcast
14) Cause for Conflict
15) Endorama
The title track from Endorama is a badass tune. Should have been on another album. Shouldn’t be overlooked though.
Pete have you listen to Hyades album And The Worst Is Yet To Come? I think it's a pretty underrated album. IDK why you never hear anyone talk about it. Also it's got a pretty sick cover.
My rank:
1 Pleasure to Kill
2 Extreme Aggression
3 Terrible Certainty
4 Endless Pain
5 Enemy of God
6 Coma of Souls
7 Phantom Antichrist
8 Hordes of Chaos
9 Violent Revolution
10 Gods of Violence
11 Endorama
12 Hate Über Alles
13 Renewal
14 Cause for Conflict
15 Outcast
My Top 5
5. Extreme Aggression
4. Pleasure to kill
3. Phantom antichrist
2. violent Revolution
1. Coma of souls
The vocals are the one thing I couldn't get away with this band. I tried for years but couldnt get into them, Terrible Certainty was good though.
I'm not a huge fan of harsh vocals either, but been listening to that type of vocals since Venom in the early 80's, and I think Mille's vocals are easier on the ear than many others
It's strange because I don't mind those type of vocals of death/black type of tunes like Witchery, but have little tolerance for those on Thrash.
But kreator is also first wave black metal
Horrible vocals.. The older I get the less tolerance I have for screaming and shitty harsh vocals
This is why I'm only just getting into Slayer, I couldn't do it. I love the Musicality but the vocals are not my thing, as someone who loves Thrash like Exodus, Metallica, Testament, Megadeth etc style... the harsh stuff still is hard for me
My Ranking of Kreator
1. Pleasure to Kill
2. Endless Pain
3. Extreme Agression
4. Coma of Souls
5. Terrible Certainly
6. Gods of Violence
7. Renewal
8. Violent Revolution
9. Enemy of God
10. Hordes of Chaos
11. Hate Uber Alles
12. Phantom Antichrist
13. Cause of Conflict
14. Outcast
15. Endorama
Personally I love Endorama, I think Tommy Vetterli is brilliant! However my favorite is Renewel from 1992.. Cheers MS
1: Extreme Aggression
2: Coma of Souls
3: Endless Pain
4: Terrible Certainty
5: Pleasure to Kill
6: Cause for Conflict
7: Phantom Antichrist
8: Hordes of Chaos
9: Enemy of God
10 Gods of Violence
11:Hate Uber Alles
12: Violent Revolution
13 Renewal
14 Outcast
15: Endorama
I loved endorama, lol. I thought it refreshing to hear different ( more mature? ) Kreator. Only a couple songs kinda sound like my dying bride. I agree with Pete 99% of time, love sea of tranquility. As I never spent much time with Endorama, I find myself loving this album in 2024. Kreator held back a touch, more in control. I don't mind more polished at all, if songs are good. Most of these songs sound really good to me. Peace!
I forgot to add, I Love Gothic Metal!!!!!! This album Endorama is Awesome!!!!!!
I enjoy their mid-to-late-'90s output a lot. I feel they were oddly adept at goth- or industrial-adjacent metal, lol. But I recognize this is a minority view.
Great ranking video as always.
I like Renewal a lot
1 Pleasure to Kill
2 Extreme Aggression
3 Endless Pain
4 Terrible Certainty
5 Coma of Souls
6 Enemy of God
7 Gods of Violence
8 Violent Revolution
9 Phantom Antichrist
10 Hordes of Choas
11 Hate Uber Alles
12 Cause for Conflict
13 Renewal
14 Outcast
15 Endorama
I listened to them all a couple of years ago, as well as all of the ones from Sodom, Destruction, and Tankard. I definitely will not be doing a thorough ranking right now - as I haven't spent a whole lot of time with most of them yet.
I do agree that most of their '90s albums are not up to the par, but this is typical of many thrash bands all over the world. Most of them had badass music earlier in their careers, as well as more recently - with their mid- period stuff (late '90s/early 2000s) being mediocre.
I really dig their first four albums, as well as everything they've done in the 21st Century so far. I actually own their last two, Gods of Violence and Hate Uber Alles. My favorite, though, is actually their 1990 album Coma of Souls!
1.Plesure to kill
2. extreme agression
3 endless pain
4. coma of souls
5. terrible
6. Gods of Violence
7.Hordes of Chaos
8.Phantom Antichrist
9.Cause for Conflict
10.Violent Revolution
11.Hate über alles
12.Enemy of God
13.Renewal
14.Outcast
15.Endorama
100% agreed on your #1
Lesgoo, that's what we've been waiting for! This band is special to me (maybe even in my top 5) and they're one of the few thrash bands that revamped their style and still put out classics!
My list:
15) Renewal.
I can't stand it, have never been able to sit through more than a few songs. Mille's vocals are awful, production's annoying.
14) Cause for Conflict.
Only slightly better, but still not worth anyone's time.
13) Endorama
Again, interchangable. Even with all the whispers & vocal nonsense, it's more passable to me.
12) Outcast
Well, Phobia is a live staple (pretty solid for only 3 riffs), some other industrial stuff here, almost Rammstein-esque. It's just there.
11) Hate Uber Alles
Their worst album in decades. Production is super uneven, choruses lazily dumbed down. I love the title track, but that's it (Demonic Future & Killer of Jesus are OK).
10) Terrible Certainty
From here on I think these are good albums. If they re-recorded this one with modern production, I'd place it higher. Behind the Mirror, title track are great. All songs sound a bit... Clunky.
9) Hordes of Chaos
The title track is a classic. Like Demon Prince, War Curse, other stuff is just meh, but still a decent album. Has a "live sound" to it, like Maiden's Final Frontier.
8) Enemy of God
Violent Revolution 2.0 with some better songs, but less consistency. Highlights: Title track, Suicide Terrorist, Impossible Brutality, Under a Blackened Sky.
7) Violent Revolution
I think they did better albums in this style, but it's a strong album. Reconquering the Throne, title track, Ghetto War, All of the Same Blood, Second Awakening, System Decay are great!
6) Extreme Aggression
I actually don't care for half of the songs here, but the rest is fantastic! Title track, Betrayer, Fatal Energy... Great production, drumming , some stone cold classics, but some albums are even better!
5) Endless Pain
Banger fun, even if some songs aren't that memorable or strong, I'd still spin this whole album. Flag of Hate is my favorite Kreator song. Ventor vocals are fun, Mille sounds black metal here!
4) Coma of Souls
This one I keep revisiting, because even the less known tracks are great! The 1st half virtually perfect, 2nd half has Agents of Brutality & Material World Paranoia, so still killer!
3) Pleasure to Kill
Their most memorable record, I just don't feel the need to re-listen to it. The production is so cool, feels like Ventor is playing with skeleton bones instead of drumsticks! Album cover is perfect!
2) Gods of Violence
Yes, I actually prefer this to Pleasure to Kill now, it's just more fun to revisit, has more variety, memorable solos, great hooks (albeit simple). And it got me into Kreator.
1) Phantom Antichrist
Bonus track version is a must with Wolfchild & Iron Destiny! I just love pretty much every song here. YOUR HEAVEN... MY HELL!!!
1. Flag of Hate ( Take Their Lives was a masterpiece)
2. Pleasure to Kill ( Death is Your Savior more Slayer than Slayer)
3. Endless Pain ( Tormentor)
4. Terrible Certainty ( Behind the Mirror )
5. Coma of Souls ( Terror Zone)
6. Extreme Agression ( Some Pain Will Last)
Don't like anything beyond these albums. I especially like the albums that featured Ventor on Lead Vocals on some of the tracks. They should have continued that tradition. It offered some variety.
Not in any order.. These are the 5 albums i know most by them.. ------->
Kreator - Phantom Antichrist
Kreator - Pleasure To Kill
Kreator - Extreme Aggression
Kreator - Coma Of Souls
Kreator - Terrible Certainty (the statues on the cover may have inspired the band GHOST.. LOL..)
Great but i forgot Hate uber alles..
Nice ranking Mark, you do not think much of Endless Pain? All Kreator albums are solid, but I have to say Phantom was not a favorite and it is your #1. I will have to revisit it. Don't get me wrong, I like it, but it would be in my bottom tier.
@@yokerecords803 Hi Yoke.. I don't think i ever heard "Endless Pain".. Will have to check it out.. If i heard it before it was in passing and i don't remember.. Phantom Antichrist i enjoyed but my list isn't in any order.. Coz the ones mentioned i really liked but haven't heard in ages.. Going to have to go through their albums soon.. Hope having a great day our friend..
I see now you say not in any order, I missed that :). Endless Pain is their most raw album. Very early Death Metal style. I think you'll love it. Stay well you guys!!
@@yokerecords803 Hi Yoke.. LOL No Problem.. I will be listening to Endless Pain very soon at least on Tuesday.. Hope you are having a great day our friend..
Kreator is one of my favourite thrash metal bands, they have a very consistant catalogue which I usually divide into 3 parts: the classic thrash period 85-90, the experimental period 91-99, and the modern period 2000-present day. I prefer the most recent era because their music has become more complex and has more melody. The early albums are fine but too extreme for me, except Coma of Souls which is great and more accessible. The 90's era is just horrible, I don't even rank those albums. And the last one from 2022 I haven't heard yet. So here's my list:
1. Enemy of God
2. Violent Revolution
3. Coma of Souls
4. Phantom Antichrist
5. Gods of Violence
6. Terrible Certainty
7. Pleasure to Kill
8. Endless Pain
9. Extreme Aggression
10. Hordes of Chaos
They are really great in Europe since 80'
T -shirts everywhere , girls also wear a lot
15 Endorama
14 Renewal
13 Hate über alles
12 Outcast
11 Cause for Conflict
10 Hordes of Chaos
9 Enemy of God
8 Gods of Violence
7 Violent Revolution
6 Phantom Antichrist
5 Extreme Aggression
4 Endless Pain
3 Coma of Souls
2 Terrible Certainty
1 Pleasure to Kill
I actually really like "Renewal" and "Endorama". They're different, but absolutely not bad in my opinion.
Violent Revolution
I suppose my top 3 would be Terrible Certainty, Extreme Aggression and Coma of Souls. I remember the first time I heard Renewal, thinking, "WTF is going on?!" Lol.
Too bad you couldn't include the awesome Take Their Lives and Awakening of the Gods and Impossible To Cure etc. from the EP's. But awesome all the same. 1st 2 albums and Phantom Antichrist are my faves. Terrible Certainty 4th.
top 5
1. Terrible
2. Extreme
3. Coma
4. Phantom
5. Violent
Moses Schneider, who produced Hordes of Chaos, is known for producing all-analog. I guess the album benefited from that.
I think quite the opposite, his production of "Hordes" is the worst Kreator ever had in their career (excluding 90's experimental bullshit).
1. Phantom Antichrist
2. Extreme Aggression
3. Violent Revolution
4. Enemy Of God
5. Gods Of Violence
6. Hate Uber Alles
7. Coma Of Souls
8. Pleasure To Kill
9. Terrible Certainty
10.Hordes Of Chaos
11.Outcast
12.Cause For Conflict
13.Endless Pain
14.Renewal
15.Endorama
Everything Between Coma Of Souls & Violent Revolution Was Terrible But everything Before 1992 & After 1999 Is Pure Gold In My Opinion 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
For some reason I enjoy Endorama a lot. I'd rank it way higher than GoV for example. That one seemed more of the same
I'm really big fan of their 2001-present period. My top 10:
1. Hordes of Chaos (2009)
2. Phantom Antichrist (2012)
3. Violent Revolution (2001)
4. Gods of Violence (2017)
5. Enemy of God (2005)
6. Coma of Souls (1990)
7. Extreme Aggression (1989)
8. Hate über Alles (2022)
9. Terrible Certainty (1987)
10. Pleasure to Kill (1985)
Hordes of Chaos at #1, interesting... Do you really like how this album is produced? I'm just curious because I can't listen to this album without having a headache, it's so loud and overproduced.
@@ffghfdsgfgdgsfhgsf I never had problem with production of Hordes of Chaos and quallity of the songs speak for themselves. Album is mixed by Colin Richardson and that men can't go wrong. All Kreator releases from 2001 onward are masterpieces in my book (first five releases on the list are actually all number one), with exception of the last one (Hate über Alles) which was a little letdown.
@@MegaModulator I like the songs on "Hordes" too but I can never get through the terrible production of this record, it reminds me of Slayer's "God Hates Us All" in terms of aggressive loudness. I wish this record had been produced by Andy Sneap who was responsible for the previous two albums which I absolutely adore.
@@ffghfdsgfgdgsfhgsf You'll be glad about this news: "German thrash metal veterans have a new box set compiling their 2005 album “Enemy Of God” and its 2009 follow-up “Hordes Of Chaos“. Both albums have newly been remastered for this release, which has been lined up for May 24th. Among the included offerings are bonus tracks, plus a 2005 live set captured at the annual ‘Wacken Open Air‘ festival." Sorry for the late response...
Hey, I love Endorama 😂
Did you mean Mille tried to sound on Renewal (1992) as Metallica on The Black Album instead? because Load was released in 1996. Although I think he was trying to go more for the hardcore vocals during that era. I have been a fan since Please to Kill but I will take the middle era over the last few albums., which sounds boring and super clean. Cheers !
HELL YEAH KREATOR!!!
woah first
Best move Fredric made leaving Dragonforce
1. Pleasure to Kill 1986
2. Violent Revolution 2001
3. Hate Uber Alles 2022
4. Endless Pain 1985
5. Extreme Aggression 1989
6. Gods of Violence 2017
7. Enemy of God 2005
8. Terrible Certainty 1987
9. Endorama 1999
10. Coma of Souls 1990
11. Phantom Antichrist 2012
12. Hordes of a Chaos 2009
13. Outcast 1997
14. Renewal 1992
15. Cause for Conflict 1995
Totally agree with your bottom choices.. It is those awful albums that turned me off and why i don't know much cept for ones i mentioned..
Compared to:
- Scorpions' "Pure Instinct" and "Eye II Eye"
- Helloween's "Chameleon"
- Accept's "Eat The Heat"
- Metallica's "Load",
Endorama is not that bad.
Pete when you were reading the names we were going who ? Who ? Who ? ......who ?
Thanks Pete. Today i saw some cheap-shit Kreator albums at a record store. Will check again tomorrow.
And i bought Endless Pain and Extreme Aggression today. Excellent stuff. Went on a trash bender 🍻
Those albums like Renewal and Cause for Conflict and Endromada did nothing for me though Outcast had Phobia so it’s good for that one song at least. The 85-90 era was top notch and as far as the “comeback” period goes I really liked Violent Revolution but everything after was just okay or in the case of their past few sounded a bit too Gothenburg for me. Protector (also from Germany) keeps getting better but Kreator is sounding more like Arch Enemy which I’m not too fond of.
My ranking from worst to best
Endromada
Renewal
Cause for Conflict
Outcast
Hate Uber Alles
Gods of Violence
Hordes of Chaos
Phantom Antichrist
Enemy of God
Violent Revolution
Coma of Souls
Extreme Aggression
Terrible Certainty
Pleasure to Kill
Endless Pain
The singer Milli, wasn’t he one half of Milli Vanilli?
yes, same guy.
Seems to me they adopted some of the tropes of power metal on later albums with the “epic” chorus’s. Not digging that vibe at all. The vocals are a big turn off nowadays. I miss that aggressive screeching he used to be the master of. I agree that some of the middle period albums are a bit wonky sounding although I really enjoy Renewal for the bleak atmosphere. Surprisingly I really loved Endorama. I f’n love the riffing on Shadowland. I’ve always been a huge fan of Coroner so Tommy joining was a big deal to me but it seems the wasted his talent. There is a new wave vibe I have a soft spot for. Surely not a popular opinion but it is what it is. The cream of the crop for me is Terrible Certainty, Extreme Aggression and Coma of Souls. The early albums were great for the time but didn’t age well for me.
Finally something for me
1. Coma of Souls
2. Extreme Aggression
3. Terrible Certainty
4. Pleasure to Kill
5. Cause for Conflict
6. Endless Pain
7. Renewal
8. Violent Revolution
9. Phantom Antichrist
10. Outcast
Btw Ventor is not on every Kreator album. Mille is the only member of this band that's on every band's release.
btw Renewal doesn't sound awful,if you want polished sound go and listen to bon jovi.
It sounds terrible...come on. Even the first album, as raw as it is, sounds spectacular next to Renewal. Worst sounding drums and guitars of any Kreator album.
@@seaoftranquilityprog according to Mille they wanted more underground sound and with those songs it works. The songs are very good in fact (Karmic Wheel, great oriental riffs and those eerie Budd Dwyer words in the background). More memorable and not as cheesy as their last efforts. I remember when it came out I wasn't a huge fan of this album cos I expected another Coma of Souls but now I enjoy Renewal. Plus, Coma of Souls at 10.... well...
@@AlexDizzys shows you how good the catalog is!
@@seaoftranquilityprog/. Hi , I could be wrong, but did the jewel 💎 case detective , spot a front cover crack on the 2022 cd. Uber alles. Lol 😂 👍💯
Endorama was a little different, I don't hate it though.
Toxic traaaccce!
I had high hopes for Outcast with Tommy from Coroner on guitar! What a waste!
Back in the 80s I definitely didn't like the vocals. Over the years I've come around on harsher vocals, but I just don't like this guy's voice. That being said, they were good when I saw them open for Mercyful Fate in 2022.
That must have been some show Independence!
@@yokerecords803 It was. Midnight was also on the bill.
The only thing that really surprised me on your ranking is "Hordes of Chaos" being over "Violent Revolution"... I've never liked "Hordes" because it's sooo overproduced, so loud and noisy that I can barely listen to the music without having a headache. It's literally painful. What an awful sounding record. The production is just terrible. I wish they had kept Andy Sneap because Moses Schneider completely ruined this record in my opinion. "Hordes" reminds me of albums like "God Hates Us All" and "Death Magnetic" which were involved into infamous volume wars and therefore have the same production issues.
They make Metallica look like kids in the garage…great band!
Obviously all their 90's albums suck, they are just awful. So clearly they are at the bottom of the list. I've listened to them maybe once and never come back. And the first four records are predictably the top four, I can agree with that. It's a popular opinion among the fans. Although I prefer their later stuff in recent years a lot more. They have more melody and complexity compared to the early ones. I just don't find those early records fascinating any more. They are good for what they are. But today they sound dated to me.