Definitely… They should really go back to the concept of having tuned ‘street’ cars. I think DTM would be better off switching to a similar concept as say the BTCC instead of being just another GT3 series…
@@user-xn3vj4eu8l ADAC are the DTM organisers and no one wanted to compete with Class 1 cars or anything else before GT Plus. They could open up GT Plus regulations to give more variety and difference to GT3.
@@lachlanburroughs8 No the series is organise by ITR before ADAC buyout at 2023. ITR made not once but twice did class 1 regulations and failed, and they are the ones who want the GT plus rules but manufacturers doesn't want that
I think a decent track to do next would be AVUS. The track was originally used all the way back in 1921 and used all the way up until 1998. The fact that the track went from this high speed freak of nature with a 43 degree banked corner to a shell of its former self would be an interesting watch imo. F1 also competed around the circuit along with the DTM and other championships. I know it’d be 2 DTM & German tracks in a row but that’s nothing to the string of American tracks we had 😂.
One track that (probably) hasn't been requested would be the Eilat Harbor circuit in Israel, the sub-mile long track held national level events for three years in the early 2010s.
6:24 this actually did happen. the organizers could not get a new contract with the the city of singen so they moved on to find a new location, a airfield in lahr in 1996. the circuit was called regio-ring and hosted STW races in 1997 and 98. you might check it out as it had a street circuit style section in the final sector.
Singen: the worst nightmare of Alfa Romeo DTM's fans, a title gone bad for a fault of Roland Asch, if Asch had not listened to Mercedes team order, Nannini was DTM Champion on 1994
Definitely one of the weirder ones, with start, finish and timing lines in different places all away from the pit lane which entered and exited on the same turn and had a hairpin of its own.
You're going to have a great ole time in the new Nashville street circuit layout for the 2024 Indycar season finale with all of those 90 degrees corners. 😔
Finnaly thank you. Actually it is still possible to drive around that track. Turn 5 is now a lot narower because a bridge got build to overpass the train tracks besides the straight leading from turn 4 to 5.
Love the content! However in future could you maybe include or cut away to a picture of the layout at certain points? I get lost on where we are at on track sometimes lol
Pretty sure one of those corners was actually 89° and that hairpin was actually 181° 😂 i would just tack on an extra degree or 2 for my own sanity if i were you lol
You should look into the old Yahuarcocha circuit in ecuador. Idk how much footage exists of it, but it was a really long winding track around a big lake on the tourist roads there. Got pretty close to the water sometimes, and no protection from it (it was the 70s after all). Crazy to think they raced 917s and 512s's around there for 12 hours (yes in the dark for part of it). Real madmen drivers back then. Theres a permanent track now but its tiny and leaves out 99% of the original. Roads are still there tho, looked like it was an awesome track on google maps lol
I could hear the pain in your voice when you say the turns we dare not mention. lol If at all, you should do two radically different circuits that had one series in common: Speedvision/Speed World Challenge. San Diego (Naval Training Center) and Isla Grande Airport Circuit
YES. This is very topical. If anyone has this track for rFactor 1, please reply below. There was one started but I don't know if it was finished, and I need it badly!
If i remember it right it was still a WIP project by the Alemannenring club wich tryed to get the race back to Singen. Right now i can only find a assetto corsa track in 0.7 stage. The Club doesnt exist also anymore. But i think the guys moved over to a Karting track in a village next to Singen.
90 Degree Corners Narrow straights Make shift pit lane Comedy Chicane Hairpin between a dual carriage way Ticks all the boxes for a classic failed street circuit! 🤌
Please do the Norisring in Germany, its a very small track which causes a lot of chaos if Cars are being lapped. It has been used for the Races of the DTM and the German ADAC GT Masters (a GT3 Series)
there were mostly two reasons from the cities perspective: it was mostly going through residential areas so there were a lot complains about the noise of the event and it was also blocking one of the main east to west roads causing all sorts of traffic issues. the tempelhof airfield is just a way more convenient location for the event.
The editing joke got a big smile out of me.
Seeing the old DTM cars makes me realise how ruined it is now
Their organizers (ITR) and manufacturers are the one to blame first
Definitely… They should really go back to the concept of having tuned ‘street’ cars. I think DTM would be better off switching to a similar concept as say the BTCC instead of being just another GT3 series…
@@user-xn3vj4eu8l ADAC are the DTM organisers and no one wanted to compete with Class 1 cars or anything else before GT Plus. They could open up GT Plus regulations to give more variety and difference to GT3.
@@lachlanburroughs8 No the series is organise by ITR before ADAC buyout at 2023. ITR made not once but twice did class 1 regulations and failed, and they are the ones who want the GT plus rules but manufacturers doesn't want that
@@Sponge1310 That's not really how it ever was though.
I'm just here for the 90° right handers.
The tightest ever hairpin on a street circuit was Beijing Jingkai as it was run by A1GP
Macau wants a word.
It's not even tight, it's unusable
I think it was the "E section" in London eXcel.
I was gonna put this third, behind Macau and Monaco and tied with the Long Beach hairpin which is almost identical, but I forgot abot Jingkai
@@emdotrod Melco hairpin is tighter. The Beijing hairpin was only unusable for A1GP cars which also wouldn't have made the Melco hairpin.
Seems like it had a fun pitlane, with pit stalls at an angle. Consider please a series about strange pitlanes
DTM had no pit stops at the time, so it was fair game
I think a decent track to do next would be AVUS. The track was originally used all the way back in 1921 and used all the way up until 1998. The fact that the track went from this high speed freak of nature with a 43 degree banked corner to a shell of its former self would be an interesting watch imo. F1 also competed around the circuit along with the DTM and other championships. I know it’d be 2 DTM & German tracks in a row but that’s nothing to the string of American tracks we had 😂.
One track that (probably) hasn't been requested would be the Eilat Harbor circuit in Israel, the sub-mile long track held national level events for three years in the early 2010s.
6:24 this actually did happen. the organizers could not get a new contract with the the city of singen so they moved on to find a new location, a airfield in lahr in 1996. the circuit was called regio-ring and hosted STW races in 1997 and 98. you might check it out as it had a street circuit style section in the final sector.
Singen: the worst nightmare of Alfa Romeo DTM's fans, a title gone bad for a fault of Roland Asch, if Asch had not listened to Mercedes team order, Nannini was DTM Champion on 1994
90 degree right hand corner is gonna be such a big meme on this channel
Where’s Columbus Street Circuit. Imsa raced there in the 1980s in the GTP era it would be very cool to see it in one of your videos
Definitely one of the weirder ones, with start, finish and timing lines in different places all away from the pit lane which entered and exited on the same turn and had a hairpin of its own.
This series is award-winning good. F***ING AWARD WINNING GODDAMMIT.
Nice video from you my friend.
Wish you a nice weekend.
You're going to have a great ole time in the new Nashville street circuit layout for the 2024 Indycar season finale with all of those 90 degrees corners. 😔
Finnaly thank you. Actually it is still possible to drive around that track. Turn 5 is now a lot narower because a bridge got build to overpass the train tracks besides the straight leading from turn 4 to 5.
Love your videos man, I will always enjoy seeing niche street circuits.
I'm liking the new comedic approach
Love the content! However in future could you maybe include or cut away to a picture of the layout at certain points?
I get lost on where we are at on track sometimes lol
Recommend them a long while ago but should look into the Wellington Street circuit(s) in NZ and the Kuala Lumpur street circuit
Where’s the 90 degree right turn shirts.
That'd go perfectly with my Southpaw Racer "second gear hairpin" jacket! (if it did exist)
@@wendigockel and my Josh Rebel that’s racing coffee mug. (If it was real)
A lovely track.
"90 degree left hander..." ** audible disappointment **
lmao, love these.
And your german is still better than your Portuguese :D
Have you looked into Alcaniz, Spain?
In Brasil, the DTM broadcaster of the time (Edgard Mello Filho) nicknamed the turns of Singen as a "supermarket parking lot type turn".
We should create awful street racing tracks so this series will never end.
Pretty sure one of those corners was actually 89° and that hairpin was actually 181° 😂 i would just tack on an extra degree or 2 for my own sanity if i were you lol
but what if there is a 69° right hander?
@@nowind37 that would be nice
Can You do about permanent circuits too? Like the Korean circuit, the new Hockenhein...
TyDye 90 degree corner
Vs
Southpaw 2nd gear hairpin
You should look into the old Yahuarcocha circuit in ecuador. Idk how much footage exists of it, but it was a really long winding track around a big lake on the tourist roads there. Got pretty close to the water sometimes, and no protection from it (it was the 70s after all). Crazy to think they raced 917s and 512s's around there for 12 hours (yes in the dark for part of it). Real madmen drivers back then. Theres a permanent track now but its tiny and leaves out 99% of the original. Roads are still there tho, looked like it was an awesome track on google maps lol
Oh and i dont think it has any 90° turns lol
Did you cover Spokane already? I forget, and is there a playlist of all the episodes?
I could hear the pain in your voice when you say the turns we dare not mention. lol
If at all, you should do two radically different circuits that had one series in common: Speedvision/Speed World Challenge.
San Diego (Naval Training Center) and Isla Grande Airport Circuit
It's in an industrial complex, you can pretty much forget corners that are neither a 90° corner nor a hairpin across a wide road or a roundabout
Still waiting on shanghai dtm '04 and '10😩
YES. This is very topical. If anyone has this track for rFactor 1, please reply below. There was one started but I don't know if it was finished, and I need it badly!
Remember driving it (once). Probably a beta. Have deleted all rF1 stuff long ago.
If i remember it right it was still a WIP project by the Alemannenring club wich tryed to get the race back to Singen. Right now i can only find a assetto corsa track in 0.7 stage. The Club doesnt exist also anymore. But i think the guys moved over to a Karting track in a village next to Singen.
Link fron rfactorcentral is down, I have it only for F1 Challenge 99-02
Loved the editing joke. Glad to see I'm not the only one that uses iMovie 😀.
The day one of these doesn't have a 90 degree turn of some kind in it, is the day this series is dead 😄.
Wellington Nz, 1996, surely has to make an appearance in this series
Desolate… that describes Singen quite well, you know.
Thank you!
Still waiting for Shanghai Pudong Street Circuit 🙃
Thats what i asked for. Thanks
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you didn't tell us about the pit entrance
Usce street circuit Belgrade, you will like it
4:09 Doesn't the NASCAR LA Street Circuit have two hairpins?
GRUB WALD STRASSE
Why stop at 37? Surely Formula E's visit to Moscow in 2015 is worth a video?
On the subject of 90's DTM, could AVUS be considered as a street track? it was run on a literal highway near if not in Berlin afterall.
I'm going to guess the #1 tightest hairpin on a street track is in Macau
Talking about old dtm, cover avus next maybe?
90 Degree Corners
Narrow straights
Make shift pit lane
Comedy Chicane
Hairpin between a dual carriage way
Ticks all the boxes for a classic failed street circuit! 🤌
Can you do the Birmingham Superprix please?
Please do the Norisring in Germany, its a very small track which causes a lot of chaos if Cars are being lapped. It has been used for the Races of the DTM and the German ADAC GT Masters (a GT3 Series)
But it's not a failure, it still have races here
I would love to see a video about the Berlin ePrix Track, that was used in FE Season 2. There has to be a reason to only use this track once.
there were mostly two reasons from the cities perspective: it was mostly going through residential areas so there were a lot complains about the noise of the event and it was also blocking one of the main east to west roads causing all sorts of traffic issues. the tempelhof airfield is just a way more convenient location for the event.
It was only one-off solution as the airfield could not be used at the time.
Bob the Pollard?
I think the norisring looks like this one because off the hairpin.
IMSA Del Mar
If you made a Drinking Game every time a 90 Degree Corner exist, how long until you died?
I want merch
i love turkish rolls
Pls do beijing A1GP Track
Do the O.G LeMans 24 hours track please
Well, most of it is still in use, so it's not really a failure. But it might fit a different format. "Circuit Origins" or something of a similar name.
@@wendigockel I know but it’s not a street track anymore
What happened at 2:37?
It's a joke that he is copying and pasting the audio cos it's another 90° right hander
@@mazdaroadster-mx5 Oh wow woosh for me!
Unscripted positive engagement comment. ;-)