PPA is honestly like Vought from The Boys and Ben is their version of Homelander. Nothing can touch the company or their product so any acknowledgement, even of facts, against them is just not going to happen.
I love this podcast. Straight talk. You girls are awesome. Lol. The unethical leadership at PPA and somewhat MLP is criminal. Pardoe and Dundon are the worst.
0:00 Intro 3:00 ICYMI: Sonic, Elon and APP Teams 7:05 Mexico: Parte II 8:44 Hesacore Grips for the Win 13:24 MLP Pay Reductions 25:26 Will the PPA/MLP merger happen? 29:10 Twitter, Lea and Jimmy 31:08 Player Collective 33:12 PPA Blocked Me on Social 35:40 By The Numbers - Sandbagging @ Nationals 42:57 Sexual Abuse @ USAP & PPA 53:10 Dear Jilly B “Why do I play better w/ weaker players?” 55:02 Marlene Bell-isms
I would say there is a vocal minority of narcissistic individuals whose primary grievance against DUPR is that it undervalues their skill. However, many people are highly dissatisfied with DUPR due their track record of piss poor user experience. I had to reverse engineer their algorithm using my own match data in order to understand it, because they NEVER ONCE made that algorithm public, or even tried to explain it beyond some general qualitative themes (is it rec/tournament, did you win/lose?) They have always had sooo many bugs it is just straight up unprofessional/ Yet they continue to focus on so much worthless marketing crap like collegiate DUPR showdowns and constantly tweeting about MLP. They should drop the marketing interns and higher some more competent developers.
You rambled off a long list of disgruntled people/parties with the PPA, but IMHO and maybe I missed it, what a about the F'n ripoff amateur entry fees are for what players get? What have the pros gotten? As the list of major sponsors has risen, tv coverage has risen, what have the amateurs gotten? Often, waiting hours to play 1-2 games to 15 and not even get sliced fruit and a keychain. The beginning of the end of utopian pickleball was when the sleazy sub-prime auto loan predator started his greed campaign on this great game.
Yes, you're totally right. We have mentioned the problematic amateur experience in the past. A friend of mine recently put it like this: a hoard of players come to a PPA excited and leave saying "never again" only to be replaced by a whole new hoard of players excited who leave saying "never again". Let's hope pb doesn't follow in the footsteps of Tennis where 80% of first-time tournament players are last-time tournament players. I, for one, think that tournaments in pickleball can and should be competitive and fun events.
Thank you for your time and posting. Until the present PPA is gone, forget about pickleball moving forward positively. There are many people out there that winning is everything, and cheating, lying, etc is absolutely no problem. Think PPA philosophy. Don't get your hopes up on these organizations do the right thing. It just won't happen.
Thanks for providing in depth insight into the pickleverse. I’d like to get your opinions on DUPR ratings and age brackets. As a 72 year old 3.5 player I’m not sure how i would fare against a 35 year old with the same rating. Is there any established protocol for dealing with that issue if it is even one? Thanks again for fighting the good fight.
The universal age/gender debate is brought up often, but I would implore you to imagine how messy the rating would get if DUPR did the opposite. What would happen then when a 12 year old played with their 42 year old parent? What about when two women play against two men as often happens in rec games? UTR is genderless and ageless in tennis and is considered by far the most accurate rating. Certainly mobility on the court, wingspan, and athleticism can be different between players, but so is game strategy, shot selection and consistency. So if a 72 year old gets beat by the 35 year old of the same rating, the ratings would adjust accordingly, so it's a self-fixing problem. That doesn't mean the 72 year old is a 3.3, but perhaps the 35 year old is a 3.7 on the rise. The best "protocol for dealing with this question" is simply to play with as wide a variety of ages and genders as possible to improve the accuracy of your rating and the ratings of everyone you've ever played.
The top players will make the money. MLP has been a godsend for lower level pros and should be glad to get any supplemental pay outside of pay earned on merit(re:podiums). Players are just pawns in the game of business. The top players other than Ben Anna left PPA for money and the ability to succeed if Ben and Anna were removed from the equation. See the results from this weekend? If you don’t have to play those two you might win more as well.
They formed unions for much of the same reasons that exist with professional pickleball today. Unless the players are able to act as a collective group they will be at the mercy and whims of PPA and MLP.
Great podcast! BUT...this week you guys came up with quite the winner...the NBA generates $10bb in revenue and $2bb in net profit, so yes, they can pay Kentavious Caldwell-Pope whatever they feel is appropriate. Meanwhile the PPA is trying to break the $10mm revenue mark. That's like the teller at Community Bank of Boise asking why she makes $45k while a partner at Goldman Sachs makes $5mm. It's cause Goldman generated $47bb in revenue, and well, CBB didn't.
Haha. Touché. I’ve been waiting for someone to tear me to shreds for this. But I see it as both unnecessary but also sustainable if the long run payoff eventually shows up. Don’t worry. I know there are PLENTY of holes in my logic.
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Glad I came across your video blog. Really enjoying the informational contents and your straight talk. 👍
PPA is honestly like Vought from The Boys and Ben is their version of Homelander. Nothing can touch the company or their product so any acknowledgement, even of facts, against them is just not going to happen.
I love this podcast. Straight talk. You girls are awesome. Lol. The unethical leadership at PPA and somewhat MLP is criminal. Pardoe and Dundon are the worst.
Thanks for the support.
Thank you for being a courageous voice for topics that matter!
Hex me. The black Carbon Small grip would be my preference although my hand is so short. I am gripping too tightly, causing wrist pain.
How do I enter?
0:00 Intro
3:00 ICYMI: Sonic, Elon and APP Teams
7:05 Mexico: Parte II
8:44 Hesacore Grips for the Win
13:24 MLP Pay Reductions
25:26 Will the PPA/MLP merger happen?
29:10 Twitter, Lea and Jimmy
31:08 Player Collective
33:12 PPA Blocked Me on Social
35:40 By The Numbers - Sandbagging @ Nationals
42:57 Sexual Abuse @ USAP & PPA
53:10 Dear Jilly B “Why do I play better w/ weaker players?”
55:02 Marlene Bell-isms
When are you gonna talk about Dr. Mircea Morariu’s arrest? He coaches two PPA players and plays himself. Had to surrender his license. Crazy
HEX me!!!
Try to stick to the last decade.
@@detaildon So it's fine if it was 2018???? Should we let Harvey Weinstein out then too????
Tell us where the bad man touched you.@@mikesvirtualhikeandtours1721
I would say there is a vocal minority of narcissistic individuals whose primary grievance against DUPR is that it undervalues their skill. However, many people are highly dissatisfied with DUPR due their track record of piss poor user experience. I had to reverse engineer their algorithm using my own match data in order to understand it, because they NEVER ONCE made that algorithm public, or even tried to explain it beyond some general qualitative themes (is it rec/tournament, did you win/lose?) They have always had sooo many bugs it is just straight up unprofessional/ Yet they continue to focus on so much worthless marketing crap like collegiate DUPR showdowns and constantly tweeting about MLP. They should drop the marketing interns and higher some more competent developers.
No offense, but King of the Court is a way better podcast.
You rambled off a long list of disgruntled people/parties with the PPA, but IMHO and maybe I missed it, what a about the F'n ripoff amateur entry fees are for what players get? What have the pros gotten? As the list of major sponsors has risen, tv coverage has risen, what have the amateurs gotten? Often, waiting hours to play 1-2 games to 15 and not even get sliced fruit and a keychain. The beginning of the end of utopian pickleball was when the sleazy sub-prime auto loan predator started his greed campaign on this great game.
Yes, you're totally right. We have mentioned the problematic amateur experience in the past. A friend of mine recently put it like this: a hoard of players come to a PPA excited and leave saying "never again" only to be replaced by a whole new hoard of players excited who leave saying "never again". Let's hope pb doesn't follow in the footsteps of Tennis where 80% of first-time tournament players are last-time tournament players. I, for one, think that tournaments in pickleball can and should be competitive and fun events.
A podcast of innuendos, rumors and information for pros, wont be back for any further listening.
Thank you for your time and posting. Until the present PPA is gone, forget about pickleball moving forward positively. There are many people out there that winning is everything, and cheating, lying, etc is absolutely no problem. Think PPA philosophy.
Don't get your hopes up on these organizations do the right thing. It just won't happen.
All we can do is all we can do. Thanks for listening.
Omg!! KDub I want that shirt!!! Love that shirt
How can you say there are players unions? There are many of them.
Weekend forecast: 100% chance of pickleball
Always always have HOPE it’s what everyone shares. Hope in action is a seat at the table.
Thanks for providing in depth insight into the pickleverse. I’d like to get your opinions on DUPR ratings and age brackets. As a 72 year old 3.5 player I’m not sure how i would fare against a 35 year old with the same rating. Is there any established protocol for dealing with that issue if it is even one?
Thanks again for fighting the good fight.
The universal age/gender debate is brought up often, but I would implore you to imagine how messy the rating would get if DUPR did the opposite. What would happen then when a 12 year old played with their 42 year old parent? What about when two women play against two men as often happens in rec games? UTR is genderless and ageless in tennis and is considered by far the most accurate rating. Certainly mobility on the court, wingspan, and athleticism can be different between players, but so is game strategy, shot selection and consistency. So if a 72 year old gets beat by the 35 year old of the same rating, the ratings would adjust accordingly, so it's a self-fixing problem. That doesn't mean the 72 year old is a 3.3, but perhaps the 35 year old is a 3.7 on the rise. The best "protocol for dealing with this question" is simply to play with as wide a variety of ages and genders as possible to improve the accuracy of your rating and the ratings of everyone you've ever played.
Blink blink. Can y’all start a gofundme for my rehab? I’m going to need it.
With truth comes responsibility, who wants that 🤨🤨
Love a Hex! M please! Great info thanks.
The top players will make the money. MLP has been a godsend for lower level pros and should be glad to get any supplemental pay outside of pay earned on merit(re:podiums). Players are just pawns in the game of business. The top players other than Ben Anna left PPA for money and the ability to succeed if Ben and Anna were removed from the equation. See the results from this weekend? If you don’t have to play those two you might win more as well.
Name for Podcast: Crazy Ex-Girlfriends of Pickleball
Where can we find the article about the allegations?
We have a copy of the actual case file, so no article as of yet, but it may be coming soon.
Hesacore Tour Carbon in medium would look great on my first responder paddle wink wink lol
Hope to see you next year in Tres Palapas Baja Pickleball Resort. HEX ME!
Hey Craig! Thanks for listening. How’s your reach in volley coming along? See you at Tres!
Hex me! Pink would look great on my new Christmas present!
Hex me Black Small! Thanks! Took a clinic when you guys were in my city. Wish I could go to Mexico!
Hex me😅 Tour Carbon Medium! I like the color tbh, its chill.
Hex me por favor. Blk med? Not sure of the size for a 3.5 average man’s hand. Love the show. Informative, funny and brave!
HEX Me! Pink - S ..... Another great episode!!! Thanks for the POD!
We had no reply from our original winner, so you win! Let's get you hexed up. Email thispblife@gmail.com for instructions.
NHL, NBA, MLB, and the NFL all have unions and have gone on strikes
Ok good to know. That's interesting. I'll do some more research.
They formed unions for much of the same reasons that exist with professional pickleball today. Unless the players are able to act as a collective group they will be at the mercy and whims of PPA and MLP.
Unionization is the only way to go
Totally. Thanks for clearing that up.
Love getting business lectures from two people who have no business understanding.
Thanks for listening anyway. We are just presenting facts and giving our opinions. Nothing is black and white here. Would love to hear your take.
Great podcast! BUT...this week you guys came up with quite the winner...the NBA generates $10bb in revenue and $2bb in net profit, so yes, they can pay Kentavious Caldwell-Pope whatever they feel is appropriate. Meanwhile the PPA is trying to break the $10mm revenue mark.
That's like the teller at Community Bank of Boise asking why she makes $45k while a partner at Goldman Sachs makes $5mm. It's cause Goldman generated $47bb in revenue, and well, CBB didn't.
Haha. Touché. I’ve been waiting for someone to tear me to shreds for this. But I see it as both unnecessary but also sustainable if the long run payoff eventually shows up. Don’t worry. I know there are PLENTY of holes in my logic.
Great pod!
Hex me!!
Extra small, any color.
X
Most major sports have unions. NFL, Major League Baseball & NBA, all have unions
Yep. My bad. Thanks for setting the record straight
I’m headed to Fritz Burns now for MLP league
How did it go?
C'mon!...Elon''s team?...The Boring Drills!....what?...no?...
So many great options
you both lose all credibility by supporting the abysmally failing DUPR algorithm
Hex Me!! Keep up the great content.
Love to try the Hesacore grip! Hex-me! Small, Carbon :)
Hex me! Tour Carbon, XS or S please. Good luck to everyone and the pickleball tea is so interesting for someone new to the sport.
A gold card member with zero points in singles yet rated 24 LMAO.
Wait what?! Lol
Hex me! (Medium?) (Any color)
Hexme! Small in grey please 😎
Hex me that grip small white congrats girls!!!
Yes get SANDBAGGING GERT UNDER CONTROL !!!
Hex me, medium, tour grip, white
Hesacore me! Size small
Love your pods!
I’ll take whatever giveaway 😂
Too bad you made a comment that was tattle tale of who and what you believe. Which makes me think all of you comments are
Tainted 😢
How about “Stay out of the Kitchen”
Hex me. Medium. Dark color. Thanks.
Hex-me baby one more time!! Medium Carbon
Hexa Me!
Hex me! Hesacore white in medium!
Hex Me!!!
Medium Carbon
Since you girls left, DUPR has changed and it’s not accurate at all.
Hex me!!
Pink! Small!
Best POD ever!!
Canada loves THIS PICKLEBALL LIFE!!
Hexa me small white please (or the blue ❤)
Hex me pink extra small!
Hex me.
L carbon or white
Steve! You're our winner. Please write us at thispblife@gmail.com for further instructions so we can get you Hex'ed up!
Hex me! -Small, Tour Grip!
Hex me small pink
Hex me! Medium white!!
Hexa me !!! Large black!❤
And thanks for the no "BS" podcast!
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Every major professional sports league is unionized, including the WNBA:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Sports_trade_unions_of_the_United_States
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Awesome podcast
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Jilly B! Hex ME! Black - Hexacore - Small would be great! you guys rock!
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Thank you!
Thank you for being a courageous voice for topics that matter!
I appreciate that. Thank you for listening.