You are both shining Souls! Thank you.legacy Burdens…I am Native American and Irish,there are many Legacy burdens and your Work here is phenomenal . Thankfully I was Spirit led to Dicks book :No Bad Parts. It has truly catapulted my Spiritual Growth and Healing. I choose a Deeply Spiritual walking practice that helps me connect to Ancestors and ground my 8 C’sof Inner leadership.i have some Inner parts that are Freaking out that I’m here, listening to Theology of any sort.. I am actively healing with Creator/ great Spirit Inside.i Love ♥️✨that shared Healing always has the Potential to be Exponential 🌎🌍🌏 Thank you both , for sharing this 💎
As far as I can see, white people refuse to acknowledge their (my) own biases and racism because to do so would open the floodgates of the suffering caused or ignored by their ancestors. These mental and emotional dis-eases are progressive and the pain is compounded like interest on a loan. There's also the assumption of no point of reference to the specific suffering as we've allowed ourselves to become so divided and unfamiliar. I'd like to thank Richard for his decades of curiosity and persistence. Only recently through being exposed to these kinds of videos have I been able to put a face to the biggest part of me calling out for relief. She's quite real, and quite a loyal, loving warrior. Other therapies have only served to rile up or tamp down temporarily my extreme reactions to the past and confusion in the present. Thank God this part in me hasn't allowed me to give up, even while sitting on the edge. Wonderful work you're both doing. Thank you for making this available to so many.
Thanks for the video, I have been on my IFS journey for about 4 months and have been a Christian since 1985. The book I’ve been reading is called Altogether YOU by Dr. Jenna Riemersma. This book has been an amazing journey in my Christianity and I feel like I’m starting to reconstruct many of my personal beliefs but the scriptures will always remain as my standard. There are many things I need to unlearn, specifically about sin, how a see myself and others around me. Many thanks for interviewing Dr. Schwartz. MCOC
This is great! Such a privilege to hear you interview Dick Schwartz! Wow! Have you read "Boundaries for Your Soul" by Allison Cook and Kimberle Miller? It is a Christian Guide to IFS. I would love to hear you interview Allison Cook and can connect you with her, if you like.
This was a very good interview in regards to addressing aspects of the human experiences that need resolution on the mental/emotional/physical level. It would be nice for 'faith-based' systems in America to come out its enabled 'black and white gradient' thinking about what sin really is by it's etymological definition and be expanded to its realistic and contemporary counterpart, to be more open to learn what other texts say in unbiased modern language. I used to go to church in the hopes I could heal myself, but it was too caught up in using that book to browbeat people and confine women to a cosmic corner of slavery and limited life experiences in the world, so I got out it at the behest of other people and didn't care and kept searching. Other than that, I had to find my way decades later about this material, which I find it refreshing and frustrating at the same time with the realization that if people don't know about or have these tools to use, it causes unnecessary suffering for any amount of time. If the leaders of churches are learning from people like Mr Schwartz, and not teaching the masses on how to heal, then they are the biggest sinners in the entire known and unknown cosmos. I've been watching a good deal of videos like this in the past week and I notice in my bodymind right away the things IFS overviews present, it causes more pain for me. As complicated a system human bodymind is, I wish that healing wouldn't be so late in coming to awareness and complicated.
Beautiful talk to help evangelicals give themselves permission to be kind to themselves as Jesus showed. We aren’t born fatally flawed that God condemns to hell.
I'd just like to share, the book that helped me break down the wall as a white woman was "White Fragility." I'll just lay it on the table. I chose it because my protectors didn't want to hear how bad I was/am from people of color. I was in defense mode. So I chose a book by a white woman. She pulled no punches - yet said things in a language that I could hear. Explaining, not attacking. It was like being hit by a freight train, but I would never go back to before I read that book. I was changed for life, and then could work through "Me and White Supremacy." So...maybe my story would be helpful to someone. I was so sure as an activist, that I wasn't racist. I no longer believe that. And it helped me really hear others.
I am a Christian who is a therapist and I’ve been using the IFS methodology for about 3 years now, previously I was mostly using EMDR and Gestalt methodologies. One of the legacy burdens I’ve come across which I’ve assisted people to unburden is “not making a distinction between behaving badly and being a bad person.” Once a pastor said that, “God convicts us of bad behavior and Satan condemns is as a bad person.” Often, when working with couples, this is at the heart of their conflict; they condemn each other for certain behaviors. And, in parts work, we can now get to those behaviors. But, how does one work on being a bad person? Anyway, I wish Dr. Schwartz would have mentioned this sort of thing when you mentioned shame.
@@Gnarlyhobo the way God has made the human self system is a testimony to His greatness! When a person is faced with a situation which they cannot handle and cannot make sense of, rather than their collapsing under the weight of it, God has made a way of escape out the back door, it’s the way of denial. In other words, how does one handle what one cannot handle or how does one fathom what they cannot fathom, if the are not give the choice to avoid the situation? Two of my clients were only 3 when they were horrifically attacked by their caregivers, requiring they see an MD; the MD in each case misdiagnosed the reason for the visit and the children were left in their respective “care givers” care. In both cases, such abuse was continued. The protector parts may have initially advised the victims, “don’t think about it, don’t try to figure it out, act like it didn’t happen, imagine it was just a dream, move on as if everything is fine” or, deny it ever happened. This is because their self system would have crashed had God not provided such self system advisers. Why would it have crashed? It would have crashed because of the clash in “programming” and a “no win” scenario
Jesus said, “you will be blessed if you mourn and you will find comfort” He could have said, “you will be cursed and trapped in you discomfort if you do not mourn”. Denial creates the need for mourning. Denial involves temporarily acting like something didn’t happen that did happen, acting like it didn’t hurt, wasn’t terrifying or disturbing or disillusioning. Mourning involves going back to the incident with the goal of feeling what wasn’t felt, fathoming what wasn’t fathomable and recovering the lost knowledge of what happened and learning from what happened so as to avoid it happening in the future. The issue with mourning in this way is that the magnitude of some events is so disturbing that it could re-traumatize the person should it be approached all at once directly. So, a system of slow titrated incremental approach is required. And, as it turns out, God has guardian parts in charge of keeping the disturbing information locked away in the limbic/mid-brain part of the self and away from the frontal lob part of the brain. Through IFS those parts can be convinced to “by faith” temporarily step back to allow access to the denied truth of what happened, so that the wounded child can be reached and a contract with that child can be made “not to share too much too fast so as not to overwhelm the self with too much physical and/or emotional pain at a time, so as to avoid system overwhelm. God made us to survive a certain way and to recover a certain way; but, because of the extreme nature of some of the evil imparted upon people by people, the grieving process and coming out of denial can be quite challenging. This sort of heinous trauma requires a sort of heart surgery to rectify the denial state.
I respect Schwartz's work and his achievements to no end, but he's VERY difficult to listen to; his tone hardly changes, and he's a very slow and almost-too-low-key orator.
Respectfully, reading a book has no melody, no vocal inflection. Neither does a painting or artfully created plate of food. It feels like we've just become too dependent on being entertained even while learning about spirituality and therapy. Given the choice, I'd take authentic lovingly made food in a plain setting over highly processed and empty calories in a shiny tower. It just takes practice to override the 3 year old in all of us that wants the latter. 🙏
What always gets me with all of these Theories is when they try to make a difference between people by colors. The struggles may be different but the soul is the same. Because they don't know Yahweh Elohim and Yahshua they can not see it. Hate is hate and that is a Spiritual (Sin) thing. The key is spiritual (Yahshua) not physical (Sin). Lol!!! ***YHWH***
Hate is a firefighter and we create it when is needed to protect some other part of us. The true Self has no name, no colour, no gender and no opinions, among other many things and labels we create here on Earth in order to protect, heal and survive ourselves. All is good and for the best, ❤ that's what life is all about. We are eternal 🤗, bless you all
This was sooo good. So grateful to have heard about the perspective of our different parts. Thank you.
You are both shining Souls! Thank you.legacy Burdens…I am Native American and Irish,there are many Legacy burdens and your Work here
is phenomenal . Thankfully I was Spirit led to Dicks book :No Bad Parts. It has truly catapulted my
Spiritual Growth and Healing. I choose a Deeply Spiritual walking practice that helps me connect to Ancestors and ground my 8 C’sof Inner leadership.i have some Inner parts that are Freaking out that I’m here, listening to Theology of any sort.. I am actively healing with Creator/ great Spirit Inside.i Love ♥️✨that shared Healing always has the Potential to be Exponential 🌎🌍🌏 Thank you both , for sharing this 💎
This was an amazing therapeutic video, gratefully thank you, Dr. Schwartz is rocking the world in all the good ways! ❤
As far as I can see, white people refuse to acknowledge their (my) own biases and racism because to do so would open the floodgates of the suffering caused or ignored by their ancestors. These mental and emotional dis-eases are progressive and the pain is compounded like interest on a loan. There's also the assumption of no point of reference to the specific suffering as we've allowed ourselves to become so divided and unfamiliar. I'd like to thank Richard for his decades of curiosity and persistence. Only recently through being exposed to these kinds of videos have I been able to put a face to the biggest part of me calling out for relief. She's quite real, and quite a loyal, loving warrior. Other therapies have only served to rile up or tamp down temporarily my extreme reactions to the past and confusion in the present. Thank God this part in me hasn't allowed me to give up, even while sitting on the edge.
Wonderful work you're both doing.
Thank you for making this available to so many.
Thanks for the video, I have been on my IFS journey for about 4 months and have been a Christian since 1985. The book I’ve been reading is called Altogether YOU by Dr. Jenna Riemersma. This book has been an amazing journey in my Christianity and I feel like I’m starting to reconstruct many of my personal beliefs but the scriptures will always remain as my standard. There are many things I need to unlearn, specifically about sin, how a see myself and others around me. Many thanks for interviewing Dr. Schwartz. MCOC
Fascinating, transformative work! Great interview 💚
This is great! Such a privilege to hear you interview Dick Schwartz! Wow! Have you read "Boundaries for Your Soul" by Allison Cook and Kimberle Miller? It is a Christian Guide to IFS. I would love to hear you interview Allison Cook and can connect you with her, if you like.
This was a very good interview in regards to addressing aspects of the human experiences that need resolution on the mental/emotional/physical level. It would be nice for 'faith-based' systems in America to come out its enabled 'black and white gradient' thinking about what sin really is by it's etymological definition and be expanded to its realistic and contemporary counterpart, to be more open to learn what other texts say in unbiased modern language.
I used to go to church in the hopes I could heal myself, but it was too caught up in using that book to browbeat people and confine women to a cosmic corner of slavery and limited life experiences in the world, so I got out it at the behest of other people and didn't care and kept searching. Other than that, I had to find my way decades later about this material, which I find it refreshing and frustrating at the same time with the realization that if people don't know about or have these tools to use, it causes unnecessary suffering for any amount of time. If the leaders of churches are learning from people like Mr Schwartz, and not teaching the masses on how to heal, then they are the biggest sinners in the entire known and unknown cosmos. I've been watching a good deal of videos like this in the past week and I notice in my bodymind right away the things IFS overviews present, it causes more pain for me. As complicated a system human bodymind is, I wish that healing wouldn't be so late in coming to awareness and complicated.
Beautiful talk to help evangelicals give themselves permission to be kind to themselves as Jesus showed. We aren’t born fatally flawed that God condemns to hell.
really enjoyed this!
incredible talk.
I'd just like to share, the book that helped me break down the wall as a white woman was "White Fragility." I'll just lay it on the table. I chose it because my protectors didn't want to hear how bad I was/am from people of color. I was in defense mode. So I chose a book by a white woman. She pulled no punches - yet said things in a language that I could hear. Explaining, not attacking. It was like being hit by a freight train, but I would never go back to before I read that book. I was changed for life, and then could work through "Me and White Supremacy." So...maybe my story would be helpful to someone. I was so sure as an activist, that I wasn't racist. I no longer believe that. And it helped me really hear others.
Excellent!!
I am a Christian who is a therapist and I’ve been using the IFS methodology for about 3 years now, previously I was mostly using EMDR and Gestalt methodologies. One of the legacy burdens I’ve come across which I’ve assisted people to unburden is “not making a distinction between behaving badly and being a bad person.” Once a pastor said that, “God convicts us of bad behavior and Satan condemns is as a bad person.” Often, when working with couples, this is at the heart of their conflict; they condemn each other for certain behaviors. And, in parts work, we can now get to those behaviors. But, how does one work on being a bad person? Anyway, I wish Dr. Schwartz would have mentioned this sort of thing when you mentioned shame.
@@Gnarlyhobo the way God has made the human self system is a testimony to His greatness! When a person is faced with a situation which they cannot handle and cannot make sense of, rather than their collapsing under the weight of it, God has made a way of escape out the back door, it’s the way of denial. In other words, how does one handle what one cannot handle or how does one fathom what they cannot fathom, if the are not give the choice to avoid the situation? Two of my clients were only 3 when they were horrifically attacked by their caregivers, requiring they see an MD; the MD in each case misdiagnosed the reason for the visit and the children were left in their respective “care givers” care. In both cases, such abuse was continued. The protector parts may have initially advised the victims, “don’t think about it, don’t try to figure it out, act like it didn’t happen, imagine it was just a dream, move on as if everything is fine” or, deny it ever happened. This is because their self system would have crashed had God not provided such self system advisers. Why would it have crashed? It would have crashed because of the clash in “programming” and a “no win” scenario
Jesus said, “you will be blessed if you mourn and you will find comfort” He could have said, “you will be cursed and trapped in you discomfort if you do not mourn”. Denial creates the need for mourning. Denial involves temporarily acting like something didn’t happen that did happen, acting like it didn’t hurt, wasn’t terrifying or disturbing or disillusioning. Mourning involves going back to the incident with the goal of feeling what wasn’t felt, fathoming what wasn’t fathomable and recovering the lost knowledge of what happened and learning from what happened so as to avoid it happening in the future. The issue with mourning in this way is that the magnitude of some events is so disturbing that it could re-traumatize the person should it be approached all at once directly. So, a system of slow titrated incremental approach is required. And, as it turns out, God has guardian parts in charge of keeping the disturbing information locked away in the limbic/mid-brain part of the self and away from the frontal lob part of the brain. Through IFS those parts can be convinced to “by faith” temporarily step back to allow access to the denied truth of what happened, so that the wounded child can be reached and a contract with that child can be made “not to share too much too fast so as not to overwhelm the self with too much physical and/or emotional pain at a time, so as to avoid system overwhelm. God made us to survive a certain way and to recover a certain way; but, because of the extreme nature of some of the evil imparted upon people by people, the grieving process and coming out of denial can be quite challenging. This sort of heinous trauma requires a sort of heart surgery to rectify the denial state.
I do notice you tube, all social media shadowbans many great channels! This one too, deeply buried
Good to know
I respect Schwartz's work and his achievements to no end, but he's VERY difficult to listen to; his tone hardly changes, and he's a very slow and almost-too-low-key orator.
Respectfully, reading a book has no melody, no vocal inflection. Neither does a painting or artfully created plate of food.
It feels like we've just become too dependent on being entertained even while learning about spirituality and therapy.
Given the choice, I'd take authentic lovingly made food in a plain setting over highly processed and empty calories in a shiny tower. It just takes practice to override the 3 year old in all of us that wants the latter. 🙏
What always gets me with all of these Theories is when they try to make a difference between people by colors. The struggles may be different but the soul is the same. Because they don't know Yahweh Elohim and Yahshua they can not see it. Hate is hate and that is a Spiritual (Sin) thing. The key is spiritual (Yahshua) not physical (Sin). Lol!!!
***YHWH***
Hate is a firefighter and we create it when is needed to protect some other part of us. The true Self has no name, no colour, no gender and no opinions, among other many things and labels we create here on Earth in order to protect, heal and survive ourselves. All is good and for the best, ❤ that's what life is all about. We are eternal 🤗, bless you all
@@ginaiosef Yes, part of us are eternal "Atman" and the rest is a clusterfuck of good and bad parts :D