Alcoholism
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- Is alcohol dependence a misplaced expression of a spiritual thirst, or a collapse into a regressed and infantile state? We discuss Jung's involvement in the establishment of Alcoholics Anonymous.
Here's the dream we analyze:
" I’m accused of something I’m guilty of: loving the pharaoh’s daughter as she was my own. There are pictures and notebooks on my bag that prove it. So I’m dismissed from my post as guard. I end of on the floor; they paint my face black. The pharaoh and the other guard go through my stuff. On several occasions, they are about to find the proof that I’m guilty, but there are a lot of other notebooks and books in my bag, so they don’t find the incriminating ones."
In this letter, Carl Jung is writing to Mr. William Wilson, who is part of an organization called Alcoholics Anonymous. Jung is talking about a person named Roland H. who was struggling with an addiction to alcohol. Jung says that Roland's strong desire for alcohol is like a deep spiritual thirst or a longing for something greater in life, which he compares to the idea of being connected to God.
Jung believes that the only way to truly understand and overcome this addiction is through personal experiences and a journey towards higher understanding. This can happen through grace (a kind of spiritual help), honest friendships, or by expanding our knowledge beyond just rational thinking. From Mr. Wilson's letter, Jung feels that he has developed a perspective that goes beyond the common ideas about alcoholism.
Jung explains that the word "alcohol" comes from the Latin word "spiritus," which is the same word used for the highest religious experiences as well as a harmful poison. He suggests that the way to combat the negative effects of alcohol is through the power of the spirit, or the inner strength of a person's character.
Jung thanks Mr. Wilson for his letter and acknowledges that his understanding of alcoholism goes beyond the usual explanations. He believes that there is a strong negative force in the world that can lead people astray if they are not protected by religion or a supportive community. Jung admits that using words like "devil" can be confusing, so he tries to avoid them as much as possible.
Overall, Jung's letter expresses his belief that overcoming addiction requires a deep understanding of oneself and a connection to something greater, whether it be through spirituality, meaningful relationships, or personal growth.
I know this video was made four years ago, but I'm going to share my own insights and maybe someone will read them.
I read somewhere that sleep is the poor man's mystical experience. And infantile regression is like wanting to go back to sleep, to essentially die back to the transcendent source, which is Love. The suffering is so severe and the inner resources so limited that approaching death through alcohol is seen as the only solution.
I'm personally convinced that trauma is a predisposing factor, and the more we find out about trauma, the more we realize just how easily human beings can be traumatized. Trauma is a given in this life on earth. No one I know has escaped it. This is why community is so important. In a healthy community, trauma occurs, but the individual is basically loved back into wholeness by the community. Where oh where has community gone in this mad world? Is it any wonder that addictions are rife? Our very power structures encourage self-sufficiency and lay so many burdens on the "individual" that we have basically become a very sickened, dying culture of addicts.
I've come to see that only genuine love (the Higher Power, though I would call it "the Space that Includes Everything") is what saves us from the ego's endless striving and. going down dead end roads. Of course, endless striving and dead ends that prevent us from connecting with Soul is very convenient for a culture that worships efficiency and productivity. There are so many ways to be enslaved that doesn't involve whips and chains.
We are a culture bereft of depth and archetypal truth. Endlessly entertained and fed junk food, we are distracted from addressing our legitimate suffering and facing the shadow in order to reconcile that suffering with Love's action.
I love this podcast because it feeds the Soul, and there are so few places to be fed good food anymore.
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Beautifully written and I agree whole heartedly. Yes, this podcast has been a saving grace for me and has helped my pull out of a dark whole that I didn’t completely realize I was lying in.
Thanks for sharing. Generous of you to take the time and honorable to open up
Something overlooked in the dream analysis at the end is the dreamer's certainty that the pharaohs daughter is also her own could imply that the dreamer was/is the pharaohs lover. That he, representing gods authority on earth, denies her could feel like ultimate betrayal. maybe the pharaoh has a queen and an official family, and the dreamer was just a fling to be tossed aside when inconvenient. This in the context of switching loyalties (jobs) and working for the pharaoh (higher income) and fear/guilt of not being good enough
“False” transcendence doesn’t give enough attention to the dysfunctional growth of the person that motivated or drove or pushed them into a felt need to anaesthetise against their pain of immaturity; their caregivers, peers, significant others either couldn’t or wouldn’t or weren’t perceived, as nurturing enough
Wow dude I've never heard that before but you just explained my childhood and chronic addictions perfectly. The question is how to make myself well again?
God bless Jung and his wisdom.
25:18 i just had the idea that "guard" could also be a reference to ego-consciousness
but I wonder if you can use the aweful suffering from hangover to process to awakening?