This civ has one of the highest ceilings in 1v1 arabia in my opinion! Alot of tricks to master, and not easy to find the optimal composition. Hope this vid helps!
Thanks you for "So You Want To Play..." series. Can you also include tips to counter the civs as well? For example. what should you do if you are playing against Khmer.
One trick which works nicely for Khmer: Instead of building a mill for a herd of deer, you can send a bunch of villagers, and when they are full, just drop a farm right there. When they are done building, they are automatically dropping of the food, then send them back to the deer. Repeat as needed, then have them stay on the farms. (Of course this works in principle with other civs too, and also with lumber or mining camps, but the Khmer advantage is that the farm just can be used where it is.)
It's a bit of an issue that you're then left with potentially unprotected farms, but it's VERY good when your deer spawn behind, or in Arena. Also IIRC 4 villagers will completely empty a single deer, as well - so it can generally be done pretty effectively with some micro. Micro that is unfortunately beyond me 11
Very important to know about ballista elephant: Their Bolt does Not Go through the unit you're targetting. It only (additionally) damages units in front of the target. Since you're usually targetting close units, BALLISTAS DONT WORK LIKE SCORPIONS AT ALL, unless you adjust the way you use them in some very awkward way
@Emperor AlHasan i think the reward can actually be quite huge. Especially when fighting against a ranged+melee composition, targetting the (squishy) ranged units will not only increase your damage output but also quickly reduce opponents damage output. If the entire enemy army outranges you though, than the effort is much more questionable
I love Khmer! I'm so glad you made a video on them! I usually scout rush into full scorpion/pikes and that holds off the enemy pretty well until imp, where I get 50 maxed out scorpions.
I like to play Khmer like: All dark age Vils on food under tc, click up at 17pop into 3 or 4 scouts. Followed up by archers. If this hasnt killed yet i go Castle age and add knights. Army Control is also helped a lot by that farm placement doesn't matter.
Hey Hera. Thanks as always. I really enjoy this video. Just a request/suggestions. When you are discussing the basic Civ strategy, can you add your thoughts of the Civ in a team game. Would be great to know your thoughts.
I hope future balances focus more on going with the civilizations unique units. Just playing different flavors of knights vs crossbows doesnt show how cool all those civilizations could be!
UU's are always going to be limited by the fact that you need a castle to produce (most of) them. Because they aren't usually available until mid-late castle age you dont get as much experience with utilizing them as other units, and therefore players are more comfortable working with standard units that they can build earlier into each game. Over 100 games, chances are you spend 2x as much game time controlling knights or archers than you do microing with a unique unit, so it may be a comfort thing (at least it feels like it to me sometimes).
@@0oShwavyo0 I mean I know why we dont see them, and am glad their not an cure all for ebery situration. Its just the civs are all so cool and the unique units doubly so
I started playing tatars lately, go triple archery range in castle, but have no idea what to do with eco, fuedel age, more tc's or not. Would really love a video on tatars. Btw thx for your video's they carried me to 1250 (dropped back down to 1150 because I'm trying some new civs.)
I used to think that Khmer was the most OP civ (back in HD Rajas) solely because of the combo of elephants with heresy. Then I realized how garbage and tough they are to play before castle age and changed my mind. Then I changed my mind again when farm bonus came out.
I used to love Khmer, but I got sistematically beaten up on Arena playing them. I'm a terrible boomer and every single time I'm up to imp after my opponnent and inevetably trebbed down. This transition to imp is always my doom
@@Wadusher I can't find the balance. Either I focus on booming and get rekt in Castle Age without army, or the other way around: produce too much army in fear of stay behind in numbers, then I have no res to go up in a reasonable time.
@@knasttrast7168 I need to work on that. Arena is a good map to defend this castle age aggression while booming behind since you have very hard time taking down defensive castles. Sometimes I managed to petard wall and raid with elephants, but the opponnent really need to be a bad defensive player for that to pay off.
noob question - how the heck all things in the beginning of the game seem to just happen automatically? 2 houses, sheep sent in all directions? I do not see any mouse pointer movement showing direction for sheep or where to place bulidng? I do not mean shortcuts to choose what building to make, just how they were build without pointing location? ok nvm, I guess it is just a recording :)
I rush castle have a few archers, then rush again to get elephant ballista build them some ballistas and a couple catapults with a few gunners and would be sweet
skipping buildings doesn't affect going feudal timing that much. And you're gonna want a blacksmith for fletching. You could do the 1 archery build to defend with less investment if you're enemy is doing 2 archeries, for example, and get faster to castle age
@@gunar.kroeger it doesn't affect feudal time if you play standard. But you could let all your vils work under your TC and click feudal before mill and lumber Camp. This is a good strategy for a fast scout rush. For fast archers, i agree that fletching is a big hurdle, but it doesn't mean that it cannot work (maybe even just without fletching)
@@derikaem8021 Not really. You want mill and lumbercamp for both upgrades as soon as you hit feudal, and for efficiency. You CAN skip everything and go fast imp if you wanted to, but just because you can, doesn't mean you should
@@Pyrrha_Nikos you will be able to afford lumber camp quite soon -maybe even before you hit feudal. farm upgrades are not as urgent. you can still go on berries and deer. as youre the agressive player you keep opponents army away from your base and taking deer is thus less risky
How is it that Hera was so much faster to castle age, despite him making 2 scouts and his opponent making just one? Neither of them did any damage. Is khmer economy better than viking economy?
When your scops outrange the opponents mangonels, you can micro them and kill mangos. Or do you mean halb and rams? Then go mangos and own infantry. If you have knights, you can use mobility and raid his base. So far the theory. 11
@@ComfyDents i meant both cases. The Scorpions don't outrange onagers with SE afaik. Own infantry sucks a lot (Lack of armor, supplies and Champion), so is it really advisable? Raids should mostly be prohibited by stone Walls if opponent makes a slow composition, i think
Might flow a little better if you cover the Tech Tree before the maps - you mentioned Khmer being good early because of their bonus, but we didn't know what the bonus was.
@@retroschrott1560 I know what the bonus is, I just think it makes more sense to explain the bonuses and build/playstyle (based on the tree) before going into which maps are best for the Civ (since that is based on how they play).
It seems like the trap that new Khmer players go to is to go straight into elephantos, and that sleep on scorpions. Admittedly scorpions are pretty hard to figure out at low ELOs, as they are countered so hard by cav.
@@ottomann4846 Agreed, though lower ELO scrubs like me tend to shy away from mangos because they're expensive, easy to counter in their own right, and can friendly fire if you don't have the APM to manage them properly.
@@Naxhus2 fair enough. I'm not very good but they are my favourite units! UU + mangos is the most fun style for me (because no other unit can defend mangos from both kts/eagles AND other mangos)
Very unbalanced faction even to this day I'm sick and tired of playing rank against Khmer it literally made me stop playing the game to counter them you have to spend more resources no matter what unless you have insane reaction I tried monks,ballista,rams,trebs and catipaults and nothing is effective at all
They are actually quite disappointing for their cost (and the castle requirement) because unlike scorpions they deal piss weak damage before they are in big numbers, the enemy doesn't need redemption to convert them and they get too much competition with the Khmer scorpions and elephants to have an actual niche outside cutting tree in castle age. Even that disappears in imp cuz the onager upgrade is cheaper than the elite ballista elephant one lol.
This civ has one of the highest ceilings in 1v1 arabia in my opinion! Alot of tricks to master, and not easy to find the optimal composition. Hope this vid helps!
I love this series... Please finish it
Thanks you for "So You Want To Play..." series. Can you also include tips to counter the civs as well? For example. what should you do if you are playing against Khmer.
@@kbabaman don't fail to wall and let knights into your base
Continue with the series.please
Personal request hera, I love Spanish, can you do a how to play for Spanish please?
I played Khmer before they were cool
What's your win rate with Khmer
Also mass scorpions before it was cool 11
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and I played Khmer before you were cool
@@Draculapin Vipi has always been cool
One trick which works nicely for Khmer: Instead of building a mill for a herd of deer, you can send a bunch of villagers, and when they are full, just drop a farm right there. When they are done building, they are automatically dropping of the food, then send them back to the deer. Repeat as needed, then have them stay on the farms. (Of course this works in principle with other civs too, and also with lumber or mining camps, but the Khmer advantage is that the farm just can be used where it is.)
It's a bit of an issue that you're then left with potentially unprotected farms, but it's VERY good when your deer spawn behind, or in Arena.
Also IIRC 4 villagers will completely empty a single deer, as well - so it can generally be done pretty effectively with some micro. Micro that is unfortunately beyond me 11
This has been patched it seems
@@ignacionadeo1306 you can build a house and hide in it when the vils are attacked
Me: Hey Hera, how do I play Khmer?
Hera: Hussar
You're my favorite AOE2 player. :)
@hera seriously you're the only Pro who doesn't spam "it depends" alone. You always add few scenarios of "if this, then that" which really helps!
Khmer is pronounced as "KH-my". The "mer" part rhymes with "eye". BTW I live in Cambodia - the land of the Khmer.
You must be proud of SoTL
do you mount elephants bro? thats cool!
Villagers can go inside their houses, top tier civilizations
Very important to know about ballista elephant:
Their Bolt does Not Go through the unit you're targetting. It only (additionally) damages units in front of the target.
Since you're usually targetting close units, BALLISTAS DONT WORK LIKE SCORPIONS AT ALL, unless you adjust the way you use them in some very awkward way
So should you target units in the back of the group?
@@0oShwavyo0 yep, they won't hit anything behind if you target the front.
@@0oShwavyo0 yes, that would help you damage output, but obviously means that you cannot use your full range
@@0oShwavyo0 and clicking targets also leads to more overkill
@Emperor AlHasan i think the reward can actually be quite huge. Especially when fighting against a ranged+melee composition, targetting the (squishy) ranged units will not only increase your damage output but also quickly reduce opponents damage output.
If the entire enemy army outranges you though, than the effort is much more questionable
I love Khmer! I'm so glad you made a video on them!
I usually scout rush into full scorpion/pikes and that holds off the enemy pretty well until imp, where I get 50 maxed out scorpions.
I like to play Khmer like:
All dark age Vils on food under tc, click up at 17pop into 3 or 4 scouts. Followed up by archers. If this hasnt killed yet i go Castle age and add knights. Army Control is also helped a lot by that farm placement doesn't matter.
I've been waiting for Khmer! Thanks for the insightful video
Hey Hera. Thanks as always. I really enjoy this video. Just a request/suggestions. When you are discussing the basic Civ strategy, can you add your thoughts of the Civ in a team game. Would be great to know your thoughts.
I hope future balances focus more on going with the civilizations unique units. Just playing different flavors of knights vs crossbows doesnt show how cool all those civilizations could be!
UU's are always going to be limited by the fact that you need a castle to produce (most of) them. Because they aren't usually available until mid-late castle age you dont get as much experience with utilizing them as other units, and therefore players are more comfortable working with standard units that they can build earlier into each game. Over 100 games, chances are you spend 2x as much game time controlling knights or archers than you do microing with a unique unit, so it may be a comfort thing (at least it feels like it to me sometimes).
@@0oShwavyo0 I mean I know why we dont see them, and am glad their not an cure all for ebery situration. Its just the civs are all so cool and the unique units doubly so
i don't want to play Khmer
Please do not stop making these videos they're so helpful!
I wanna see Magyars next! Loved your game against Hart
Great vídeo as always Hera
Would love to see one with Malay
I think they are hard to use properly but can be really OP
Thks
I started playing tatars lately, go triple archery range in castle, but have no idea what to do with eco, fuedel age, more tc's or not. Would really love a video on tatars. Btw thx for your video's they carried me to 1250 (dropped back down to 1150 because I'm trying some new civs.)
Love the series, Hera. My vote for next video goes to Berbers
Thank you from Khmer
I'm kinda new to the game, I'm using Khmer every single game. Thanks for the vid
I am just LOVING this series
Amazing as ever... Huns? :)
this video was perfect. Thank you god Hera lol
I used to think that Khmer was the most OP civ (back in HD Rajas) solely because of the combo of elephants with heresy. Then I realized how garbage and tough they are to play before castle age and changed my mind. Then I changed my mind again when farm bonus came out.
But they never had heresy? Actually they didn't even have faith before DE lol
@@theowlogram888 I might be thinking of Malay or Burmese. I don't remember, a lot of the southeast Asian civs blend for me in memory.
@@Goldenblade14 Malay were the ones with heresy.
@@biggali okay that's my bad then.
I used to love Khmer, but I got sistematically beaten up on Arena playing them. I'm a terrible boomer and every single time I'm up to imp after my opponnent and inevetably trebbed down. This transition to imp is always my doom
Are you really slow to place farms and/or floating wood? that might be why.
@@Wadusher I can't find the balance. Either I focus on booming and get rekt in Castle Age without army, or the other way around: produce too much army in fear of stay behind in numbers, then I have no res to go up in a reasonable time.
@@ruffymaru Ain't that the story of my life
Go super fast castle and go 1 tc knights + forward 1 or 2 siege and end them in castle age. Work very good on arena
@@knasttrast7168 I need to work on that. Arena is a good map to defend this castle age aggression while booming behind since you have very hard time taking down defensive castles. Sometimes I managed to petard wall and raid with elephants, but the opponnent really need to be a bad defensive player for that to pay off.
Where can i vote for the next civ?
Why are my villagers running to the town center to drop off food when it clearly states that they dont need that?
When are the curtains coming back bro! 😂🤙
Crop rotation was not a troll?
noob question - how the heck all things in the beginning of the game seem to just happen automatically? 2 houses, sheep sent in all directions? I do not see any mouse pointer movement showing direction for sheep or where to place bulidng? I do not mean shortcuts to choose what building to make, just how they were build without pointing location?
ok nvm, I guess it is just a recording :)
Ballista elephants, unlike skorpions, are awesome to cut tress, pretty useful on oasis, etc
"because I have too much wood"
*has 125 wood*
I rush castle have a few archers, then rush again to get elephant ballista build them some ballistas and a couple catapults with a few gunners and would be sweet
LOVE THIS SERIES
Hey Hera, once he was fully walled why not go back and lure the rest of your deer? Or mill them?
Why did they lose Bombard Cannon, Treadmill Crane, and Shipwright? They keep getting nerfed. The the Battle Elephant speed bonus was also nerfed.
In Sotl overview.. They used to not have any hussars either :/ now they do :3
Awesome Video!
Question: Could you use skipping buildings to get to feudal so early that you Could Archer Rush with only one archery range?
skipping buildings doesn't affect going feudal timing that much. And you're gonna want a blacksmith for fletching. You could do the 1 archery build to defend with less investment if you're enemy is doing 2 archeries, for example, and get faster to castle age
@@gunar.kroeger it doesn't affect feudal time if you play standard. But you could let all your vils work under your TC and click feudal before mill and lumber Camp.
This is a good strategy for a fast scout rush.
For fast archers, i agree that fletching is a big hurdle, but it doesn't mean that it cannot work (maybe even just without fletching)
@@derikaem8021 Not really. You want mill and lumbercamp for both upgrades as soon as you hit feudal, and for efficiency. You CAN skip everything and go fast imp if you wanted to, but just because you can, doesn't mean you should
@@Pyrrha_Nikos you will be able to afford lumber camp quite soon -maybe even before you hit feudal. farm upgrades are not as urgent. you can still go on berries and deer. as youre the agressive player you keep opponents army away from your base and taking deer is thus less risky
@@derikaem8021 And how do you get wood? The straggler trees? You get berries walking to the tc? That's the definition of inefficiency
Im sure that i want to see britons get nerfed
Looks like ya got your internet back :D
It came back 2 hours after it dropped yeah. Also it was my power not internet
@@HeraAgeofEmpires2 come down to beaconsfield, i'll give you my computer lol jk jk
Thanks hera!
How is it that Hera was so much faster to castle age, despite him making 2 scouts and his opponent making just one? Neither of them did any damage. Is khmer economy better than viking economy?
He didn’t have any building requirements so he could focus on just the resources needed to age up and make scouts
what if instead of knights the player go full mass scorpions in castle age? Like 20-40 scorpions
Iirc, scorpion only for anti archer or cav archer. It is too weak if vs knight or just one mangonel!
Let’s gooo!!
why isnt the Turks video in the playlist?
What would you recommend against halb+siege as Khmer?
When your scops outrange the opponents mangonels, you can micro them and kill mangos.
Or do you mean halb and rams?
Then go mangos and own infantry.
If you have knights, you can use mobility and raid his base.
So far the theory. 11
@@ComfyDents i meant both cases.
The Scorpions don't outrange onagers with SE afaik.
Own infantry sucks a lot (Lack of armor, supplies and Champion), so is it really advisable?
Raids should mostly be prohibited by stone Walls if opponent makes a slow composition, i think
@@derikaem8021 since they get bracer I'm thinking you go arb or skirm to counter the halbs and then make your own siege to counter theirs?
@@0oShwavyo0 hm you dont have bbc, so it would be arb/skirm+onager. sounds tricky. maybe not really better than lackluster 2Hswords
Shouldn’t we make a barracks when there is a scouts war ?
You can do scorpion rush with Khmer
FINALLY..... TOO LATE THOUGH .... I LOST 100 ELO LEARNING HOW TO PLAY THEM... THANKS ANYWAYS
Soo competitive
You and viper r my favorite
MY MAN
I wanna PROOOOOOH my enemies before i become overwhelmed by monks and pikemen and die
Me hearing people having alts in aoe2 while in still trying to afford it
Yeslamo 3idek ya m3allim
Might flow a little better if you cover the Tech Tree before the maps - you mentioned Khmer being good early because of their bonus, but we didn't know what the bonus was.
the farms / the farming
@@retroschrott1560 I know what the bonus is, I just think it makes more sense to explain the bonuses and build/playstyle (based on the tree) before going into which maps are best for the Civ (since that is based on how they play).
The scorpion bois
Do he reply ...
Pew pew scorpions
Can i request malay
Burmese or next pls
It seems like the trap that new Khmer players go to is to go straight into elephantos, and that sleep on scorpions. Admittedly scorpions are pretty hard to figure out at low ELOs, as they are countered so hard by cav.
and mangs
@@ottomann4846 Agreed, though lower ELO scrubs like me tend to shy away from mangos because they're expensive, easy to counter in their own right, and can friendly fire if you don't have the APM to manage them properly.
@@Naxhus2 fair enough. I'm not very good but they are my favourite units! UU + mangos is the most fun style for me (because no other unit can defend mangos from both kts/eagles AND other mangos)
Very unbalanced faction even to this day I'm sick and tired of playing rank against Khmer it literally made me stop playing the game to counter them you have to spend more resources no matter what unless you have insane reaction I tried monks,ballista,rams,trebs and catipaults and nothing is effective at all
its pronounced as ka mai
Massed Balista Elephants are OP. Tough to stop them from getting there because Khmer has such strong early and mid game too
But they will burn yout gold
They are actually quite disappointing for their cost (and the castle requirement) because unlike scorpions they deal piss weak damage before they are in big numbers, the enemy doesn't need redemption to convert them and they get too much competition with the Khmer scorpions and elephants to have an actual niche outside cutting tree in castle age. Even that disappears in imp cuz the onager upgrade is cheaper than the elite ballista elephant one lol.
I already play Khmer
but u might not play it properly so you should definitely watch the video with your gamer goggles on and ur notepad handy dandy
First
Wow first and a heart from the strimmer thats a hugr accomplishment
@@HeraAgeofEmpires2 i was first lol
@@danieljokers453 you didn't say "first" though, so it doesn't count :P
7:05 :´)
Malay.
do spanish pls