Dark Souls II isn't that bad
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- Опубликовано: 17 мар 2017
- Is Dark Souls II really that bad?
I don't think so. I think people exaggerate many of its faults and overlook a lot of what it did right. Don't get me wrong, it's not a perfect game either, and it does have a lot of flaws - but then, so does every other Souls game.
Feels like a lot of the hate comes simply from the game being different.
Another thing that only occurred to long after I uploaded this: The NPCs in Dark Souls II are a lot more interesting than the NPCs in Dark Souls III, which relies too heavily on characters we've already seen (Andre, Patches, Siegmeyer, etc) Nobody in Dark Souls III comes close to Aldia and Vendrick. Most can't even come close to Navlaan.
Also I should point out this has nothing to do with the "Return to Drangleic" thing that happened recently - complete coincidence. I made this video back in late January. Good timing though, I suppose.
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forgot one major point about Dark Souls II.
the bodies dont flop around when you walk into them.
Oh shit you're right. That was majorly upsetting.
dark days indeed
dudel poo Wut! thats the worst part of it!
immediate worst game ever
dudel poo that was the best Worts part of ds2
I love Dark Souls 2, even with its flaws. Still play it to this day. The sense of isolation, is awesome.
I love the Majula theme, on that note - it's so haunting and beautiful, and yet at the same time it has those notes of hope, as you are bringing more vagrants back to this little village.
i actually liked it for it's openes, DS1 felt isolating to me. Ds2 had a lot of open areas where you could look just look in the distance and just get a warm feeling . I think the sun being visible a lot of the time helped, Majula the GOAT hub
SithisHimself Agreed I love DS2 I got more issues with DS3 than any other game in the Souls/borne series.Allot of DS3 is "Remember this from dark souls and demons souls" just does not have it's own identity.But I won't start ranting about DS3 because I'll be here for hours.lol
SithisHimself wdym isolation
SithisHimself you can't find anyone to play with. the summon range and forced levelling? might as well be in skyrim
Is it just me or is the majula song one of the greatest from the souls series.
It's my favourite hub song, I'll admit
Dark Souls 2 was my first From Software game, so it has a special place in my heart
My thoughts exactly.
Same
Same
I honestly love the game,But everyone seems to hate it😅
True
People, stop saying it has different feeling than DS1. Nothing has the same feeling as DS1.
Yeah DS1 felt like a bad game. DS2 felt like a good game. Very different experiences.
The Uncanny One nice bait
Bryndleson Why can't people hold opinions? If you like a game you're a shill and you've been paid off. If you don't like a game you're just baiting fans and really you love it which means you're a shill. wtf
Hydra Jamm Then obviously you're a shill and From Software is paying you.
is it possible to like all souls games about equally
I enjoyed it
Skidonic Keep munching on those bug pellets, obese walker.
Skidonic fucking destroy my gaping asscave
munching on those pellets is more fun that the ancient dragon "boss" if you can even call it that
Hail Skidonic the Great One, slumbering in the ancient city of R'yleigh!
Skidonic wtf you doing here? arent you supposed to record videos and not give a fuck?
No need to give up a ring slot; just switch back after you summon your friend
This guys voice is so freakin nice to listen to and he sounds like the kindest person in existence
I loved Dark Souls 2.... along with 1 and 3 :)
I think thats the best answer I've ever heared :D ^^
^
Joshua Langston don't forget bb
i was new to the series, so i brought 1,2,3 and played them accordinly. Ds1 i was blown away, i started ds 2 pretty excited and found out its horrible i finished it and played 3 which i almost cry for happiness because it feels like darksouls again
Wow, someone who actually acknowledges ds3 is good for once
Build variety alone makes me like DS2 more than 3.
You mean Dark Sword 3? HA-HA!
(I'm sure the meta has shifted to something else now but that gives you an idea of how up to date I keep my PvP knowledge of DaS3)
Nope still is darksword spam
Soon it will be ringed sword spam.
You mean ringed paired greastsword and gael's sword spam?
Yes, but noone minds Gaels cuz its cool.
Dark souls 2 is actually my favorite dark souls game.
Me too Ma boi
GiT gUt CaSuAl
You smoke crack.
@@droiduseruserdroid1731 "i cant comprehend why he likes the game i dont like so i just make some dumb comment saying that he smokes crack"
Same here Dark souls 2 was the best for me, then first and then 3rd.
DS2 had more replaybility than ds1 with its far range of weapons to test . And majula that looked 100 times better than firelink shrine. Whilst boss battles that were at every turn kept me going. IDK whats all the salt about?
All the bosses except for the Fume Knight are a fucking joke, and there is no challenge in Dark Souls 2 like the difficulty Dark Souls 1 offered, that's the majority of why the community dislikes the second game, people enjoyed dark souls based on it's difficulty and the bosses and enemies the game dishes out with no mercy, you don't get any of that from Dark Souls 2 and the enemies and bosses hold a very lazy design and are missing a key component that Dark Souls 1 had, heart. Although it's a fact it's the worst dark souls game, that doesn't mean it's bad as a game, hell no, I enjoyed the fuck out if it, and I still do, even though there's not much challenge even when your solo, the dlcs were grand.
@@wearevenom4121 DS 2 is not easy as cake,lol.
@@LeafyPeach People find DS2 easy because they played DS1 before. Had they played DS2 first they'd think DS1 was too easy.
Ds1 isn't even hard when you can cheese a surprisingly large amount of enemies by shooting arrows from far away and circle strafing trivializes a lot of enemies that are theoretical tough till you back stab them to death.
@@theepowerful i wouldnt replay a game that spammed enemies literally everywhere.
Not to mention DS2 had best pvp. By far. With all the variations given and stamina actually being a thing along with durability. I hate DS3s pvp. It's just roll and r1 spam. DS2 actually made you time and plan your moves. Not just spam your rolls for invincibility frames so you can drink an Estus in literally 1 second. I'll probably just get hate for this though.
Hate
SuckMyDeag Ds1 has the best PvP.
Dominic Rossetti It's true that the instant one shot backstab we're funny
Nah, you're exactly right. It was just as much a problem in Dark Souls (1). They fixed the issue of roll spam & fast heals at least by regulating those aspects more. Things DS3 threw out the window probably just for the sake of "not being like Dark Souls 2"
Ill just be over here playing dark souls 3.
Using a great hammer.
and L2.
and being very aggressive with 50 vigor and 60 end.
sl 150 PvP.
I'm fine.
Wait, people thought DS2 was a bad game? The fuck?
It's usually the most controversial of the games. Hell, just look at the comments haha
I played all of the souls games and checked all of their hitboxes
Let’s just say, They all had bullshit hitboxes I’ll give you an example
Ds1 Artorias’s thrust attack hit me from behind
Ds2 I don’t know about you guys but the ONLY hit box problem I got was Fume Knight’s slow fire sword slash.
Ds3 Literally got grabbed when behind the Dancer of the Boreal Valley
Bloodborne: Got hit by Amygdala’s laser beam although I was not even close to it.
The more technical you get, the more you notice all the quirks.
Learn enemy movesets, time all your dodges, attempt no-hit encounters, and you will start experiencing more "What the **** was that!?" moments.
Alonne's lunge hitting me from behind him was infuriating.😡
To me, it seems as if it's based off of timing in the programming. Like the hit is registered as good or bad a few frames before it actually connects.
Something like this:
Maybe you were in the hit area as the wind-up crossed the threshold into the forward motion of the attack. Even if you move out of the way, the hit connects because you were there when the attack crossed the timing threshold.
Don't know if this is the way things are programmed, but some of the inaccuracies could be explained by that.
Everything you just described is your own confirmation bias. This game is known to be coded with bad hit-boxes by its own developers. The fact that you aren't aware that they are there because your ignore them is meaningless.
In ds2 I got hit by pursuer even though I was behind him and several feet away, this actually happened, try defending that
@@mricanthavealastname7628 Just parry him :b
@@droiduseruserdroid1731 just like the hate on ds3 is biased
What made the second game enjoyable for me was the dual wielding mechanic. So strange that the third game reverted back to the first game (blocking with a sword on your left hand).
I agree. Currently playing dlcs and have played entire game with dual wield short sword and long sword and it def is really enjoyable but one of the harder builds due to the constant ganks and no shield
I love the game, currently raging a bit against fume knight ;)
Chris Haugen Same here :D
Good day scrubs
+Chris Haugen bring bells, his ultimate weakness
Chris Haugen why should I die?
Silver Mont Or wear the squid helmet
One thing is certain... DS2 had the best hub . Majula is soo awesome .
Majula is my favourite hub area, Firelink Shrine (3) is my least favourite. It kinda just felt like a weird/crappy remake of the Nexus,
Nexus is my favorite hub, music makes me feel safe, Maiden in Black is almost always beside the archstone you teleported through, making her seem like the most caring of the hub-girls, and it's simply beautiful, even in the lesser graphics of DeS.
It really reminds me of where I grew up, the scenery. The music is really nice there too. I'm not sure which I like the best.
The Jackal definitely
I like the nexus and firelink in ds1 more
Honestly, DS2 offers a lot more "game" than DS1 or DS3. I will say, The Ringed City is amazing, and I think DS3 has the most consistent boss quality and general best bosses (3 of my top 5 are now from DS3 as of The Ringed City; I have not had a chance to do Bloodborne), but... DS2 just has so much more game play in the long run. DS1 drops off in quality hard after O&S (excluding the SINGLE DLC), and DS3 just has a lot of enemies designed to annoy you (Dungeon. You all know what I'm talking about). And NG+ is basically the same game in DS3 just like in DS1. DS2 had a lot more you could do with the bonfire ascetics, it had better stat design and stat calculation overall (still flawed, but still the best, particularly with regards to weapon infusion), and it has a lot more weapons, armor, and build variety. You are so limited to your game play style in DS1 and DS3 compared to DS2 that it makes me sad. You could buff and infuse boss weapons, use ascetics to get better gear or replay a fun boss without having to redo the whole game, it had two pve covenants, and just a lot more game. Also the PVP was easily the most balanced of the series. Personally I find the hit boxes to be a whole lot more precise overall too. Yeah it has annoying times where you're simply pulled back into something, but like the video said, that's more of an animation thing. But the actual hit boxes are a lot better. I cannot state how many times in DS1 and DS3 I swing a weapon near a wall, only to have it bounce off of thin air (especially true near "cliffs or rocks"). In DS2 that's far more rare. I also have found myself to get hit through walls by enemies much less often is DS2. And my biggest pet peeves of the souls series is sooo much less prevalent in DS2 than the others. Those are: "big magic explosions because **** you", enemies that simply don't let you fight back (or really even play the game) while they kill you / have pure BS forms of "flail around" attacks (Hellkite Drake, Jailers brands, *Seath's tail flail, Skeletons on all Fours in Tomb of Giants, etc), and every other enemy having grab attacks / attacks that exist just to annoy you (Evangelists, Jumpy F****** in Farron Swamp, Murkmen in the new DLC, Mimics literally doing only grab attacks sometimes, Jailers, Snake dagger guys, F****** DOGS, everything wielding a great-shield in DS3, lesser bat demons, Nito, 2 out of 3 forms of the Asylum Demon, Jailers, everything wielding an ultra great-sword in DS3, Giant Crabs, Poison Rats, Toxic Rats, Raven Demons, Anor Londo Arrows With Love (I actually kinda like these guys admittedly), pretty much everything in/related to Irithyll, and did I mention Jailers?). Yes, DS2 has all of these problems to some extent, but to a much lesser degree (it is worth noting that of all the dogs, DS2 has the least annoying ones). Although it does have the "explodey" F****** and Ogres, it has far less genuinely annoying enemies. Poison is also actually not useless in DS2, and is quite powerful even, and Bleed is much more useful since it affects more things and doesn't require investment into a stat that pretty much only buffs it and not much else like in DS3 (Luck). I also like the difference between curse/petrify personally, as each has their own unique threat. It has it's downsides compared to DS1 and DS3 as well, such as no character that even compares to Solaire, no boss that holds up to O&S or what I like to refer to as "The Orphan of the Abyss", and it has as many bland areas as well as interesting ones, but overall it's honestly just got a lot more to it than the others. Being longer than DS1 and DS3 combined, having more build variety than 1 and 3 combined, and having easily the most replay value in terms of NG+; it's got a lot going for it. A lot more than it has against it. Each Souls game does some things better than the others, DS1 has a bigger feeling of accomplishment and better atmosphere. DS3 has the best overall feeling movement, graphics (kinda by default and excluding the character creator), boss quality, and a few other things, but having put well over 1k+ hours into the 3 games, I can honestly name a lot more that DS2 does better than DS1 or DS3 than I can things that DS1 or DS3 did better over the others. Also DS1 just feels dated now... I don't get the control issues people have with DS2, and I play these games a lot. You can't run straight in DS1 because it doesn't have enough of a dead zone, DS2 actually controls way better in that regard, and I'm someone who cares about that stuff. I love DS1 all the same and play it frequently, but it doesn't feel anywhere near as good as DS2. Maybe it's a SOTFS thing, I haven't played the vanilla DS2 in a long time, but SOTFS at least feels way better controlling than DS1. I love them all, and I might love DS3 the most just for the bosses and consistent quality, despite the annoying enemies, but I'm actually torn on that. On one hand DS3 has a lot of good qualities, but it's kinda a 1-trick pony compared to DS2 (and even DS1) on the other. I don't know. I personally do know that I find it easier and more enjoyable to go back to DS2 after not playing it for a while compared to the others though. There's just so much more to do. I feel like 5 years from now I'm actually going to look back at DS2 the most fondly, which feels against my instincts in some ways given my personal bias towards movement quality and atmostphere, but... Like I've said, it has a lot more going for it than against it, and I have a feeling that it will hold up better over time than the others.
I don't know what you are going on about; ds2's level and world design is no where close to ds1's standard, ds2 had the worst atmosphere of the trilogy, ds2 had the worst sound design, ds2 had the least memorable bosses and NPCs. So yeah, you perhaps have some irrational attachment to ds2. (Also note, it was not directed by GOD, unlike the other soulsbourne games)
@@rajavignesh8790 DS1 had better world design, I wouldn't argue it had better level design. Obviously it had some levels that are better that most in DS2, such as the undead burg and a few others, but DS2 also has the DLC's which are pretty fantastic in that regard. DS2 also generally lacks level design dumpster fires like the whole demon area in DS1. In terms of world design, I think they pretty much go in order from best to worst. For level design, I think they go opposite, with 3 being the best and 1 being the worst. As for sound design, I'm kinda 50/50. I don't really like the armor sounds in the first one, and there are a lot of stock sound effects (which is true for all 3, but it feels more noticeable to me in DS1). I would say DS3 has the best sound design of the three personally, but I would hold 1 and 2 kind equal there. DS2 definitely is weaker in terms of bosses, and it does have great atmosphere at times but it's inconsistent compared to the other 2. I don't entirely agree on the NPC thing though. DS1 definitely has the best NPC's, but I do have a gripe with DS3 ripping off the first game too much in that regard. But, there are a lot of ways in which DS2 is superior to the other two games.
DS2 absolutely wins in equipment variety and viability, stat design, mechanics like durability actually mattering, and so on. It's the best game for running a dual spec, there's power stancing, more unique weapons that are different in more ways than just stats (curved nil greatsword, santier's spear, bandit greataxe, etc.). It has the best NG+, you can actually re-fight bosses without replaying the whole game, the summon system (minus soul memory) actually lets you summon people once a boss is dead, you can block online play per area without going offline, and hands down it easily wins in the category of PvP. It has the best magic of the three and the best bows, it has better invaders and more secrets and hidden items. It also has the most paths that can be taken at the beginning, does a better job of preventing from grinding endlessly for souls, and the NPC quests don't have hyper specific requirement (see onion knight in DS1 needing his health bar to be within certain ranges to get different endings to his quest). It has more armor that offers unique additional bonuses, the best back stab animations, the least number of required bosses of all three games (as in, you have great freedom in how you go about going through the game, although I always kill all bosses personally), and a PvE covenant. I can keep going too. So no, my preference for DS2 is not irrational - I have spent a lot of time analyzing and playing these games. On the surface DS2 is weak in a lot of ways compared to the other two, but when you really start going through piece by piece, you start to find it did a lot of stuff a lot better.
I love each game for different reasons, but I seriously have more fun replaying ds2 than the others because of the variety of builds/paths you can take early on.
@@rajavignesh8790 developed by god? I can't tell if that part is supposed to be a joke or you are actually just an unreasonable fanboy
@@exi8550 It was a joke mate. Was just stating that it wasn't directed by Miyazaki.
This game offers me a sense of belonging while playing on a new game. You can actually be anything you like. It offered so much versatility. You could be the knight with heavy armor and weapons, the rogue with the mail breaker, the spell-blade with the katana and sorcery, a hexer anything. The covenants also seem more vibrant and have a stronger impact on the world. In DS3 your options are actually more limited. infusions are a no-go, poison is useless, sorcery is impossibler to pull off and hexes are gone. Not to mention the covenants two of which are actually a remake of the forest covenant from DS1 and the others are exactly the same as DS1. The story was also unique and the world reflected the feel of despair. The areas were also unique and were tighed to the world. Whereas in DS3 you get another version of Undead Burg (High Wall), another swamp and more catacombs. The story is rehashed from the first game as well. Kill lords, link the fire.
Majula is such a peaceful retreat. I like it very much.
@Linda Niemkiewicz
"Perfectly"
Ok now I'm convinced you're playing a joke
@@virtuallyperfect7973 He said it handled the idea perfectly, the execution was mediocre.
@MasterMoonfire ds3 isn’t even decent. It’s just ds 1 reloaded
@@zzodysseuszz Hmm. Nah I think Bloodborne is the worst one
i played ds2 first out of the 3 and i have the best memories EVER from that game and is my favorite of them all.
I actually love dearly DS2, mostly because of Lucatiel, Navlaan, Grandahl and Alsanna: to me they feel very real; majula as a whole, also (for some reason I really love the place).
I do think DaS2 has the best NPCs out of the Dark Souls games, as a whole. Although even it has some stinkers of characters, like Carhillion of the Fold or whatever his name is. Yawnorama.
theVulcanGuy no mention of Benhart?
what about gavlan
don't tell me you forgot best merchant :c
@@duroorud527 Gavlan feel :(
@@igugigu4952 Gavlan wheel
This game was my first in the series and it hooked me up
😆 couldn't agree more, the most about it I hate is ganking, enemy tracking, and sometimes the hit detection, besides that it's actually a pretty awesome game
I have always felt that Dark Souls 2 gets way to much criticism. Sure a fair bit is subjective and 100% someones opinion, and thats great, but there was so much that went right in the game that no one really seemed to care ahout. The progression of the curse and how we got to see various afflicted characters, hell, Lucatiel is superb at this. Fiercly proud and loyal to a fault, she goes on a quest to find her brother before slowly and before our eyes, crumbles away just moments away from meeting the husk that was her brother. We meet her time and time again and how she is tired of this curse that we share. Where was that developement anywherr else? We didnt watch Solaire gradually descend into madness, it was a near instant change in the ruins of Izalith. There are also a plethora of great bosses, humanoid or not, to fill the gaps left by those lame rats, or the lava hole. I love this game. i don't care if it feels like everyobe has a damn floaty, I love the games story, and personally, I like the poorly designed world map. Feels like something a forgetful mind would experience.
I think if Dark Souls 2 had as much polish as Dark Souls 3, people would be more willing to overlook its flaws and there would be -far- less criticism.
And Lucatiel is one of my favorite NPCs too. Also those bell bros.
You know, something I'd have liked to see in DS2 NPCs is actually see them go hollow and hostile. And something I'd have liked to see in DS1 is see the progression of the characters hollowing (Logan is the only example I can think of, and it did not quite have any impact). DS2 had very entertaining bosses. IDK, I had a lot of fun with the Ruin Sentinels, Lost Sinner, Darklurker, the Throne Watcher and Defender, Velstadt, Aldia, many others. The DLCs were awsome, Aldia, Vendick, and Navlaan were very interesting characters too. Finding the Emerald Herald in many locations was cool. One of the moments that made me realize that time-space in Drangleic may be warped was the moment I walked across the dark tunnel in shaded woods/shrine of winter to arrive in Drangleic castle. the transition felt so surreal to me it reminded of the movie Spirited Away, when the protagonist and her parents unknowingly cross to the spirit world through an abandoned tunnel (or whatever that was). Finally... it has the best Fashion Souls xD
What strikes me about the Dark Souls franchise is how much of this stuff I miss during my first play through.
@@SuperLotus um ds 2 is sharp. Gameplay wise, this series is like the standard
I used to hate DS2 and love DS3, but after 1000's of hours of DS3. Which I like because it's enemies and levels are more in line with DS1. Which had the best atmosphere In the series hands down. I think DS2 is the best dark souls "game" in the series. At least if we are talking from a technical standpoint. I turned around on it completely, and it's my least favorite for being the least atmospheric. (deep atmosphere is why I play games) We can all agree DS3 has some problemo's. Shields are useless, and it feels more agressive than the slow, methodical dark souls 1, Dark souls 2 lame it out strategy, pull enemies, think about every move, rethink that move. It's more like Bloodborne a fast paced action game with RPG element's. In DS3 you Just go quality, refine your straight sword, buff that baby and go to town. There are way cooler more fun weapons and builds but that build is so good in pvp (and pve for that matter) All other builds require way more work to win. My favorite weapon In souls is the greatsword, DS3 has some of the coolest greatswords, but I have to be really good to kill a dude running a quality build like that. Also DS1 is about careful planing and not just running in blindly. The world is indifferent and will murder you. DS2 is alot like that too just the indifference is from human, hollow enemies more than monsters. Which is less cool, but I digress. I don't know about anyone else but in Bloodborne and DS3 I feel sooo capable. Like I can walk into a room and say "yeah, I got this!" And fuck everyone in the room up cause I'm so god damn fast. Dark Souls was supposed to be the opposite of that. Which is why DS2 is kind of a better souls game than DS3. Sorry about how long this is but I would really like to know if anyone agree's or disagree's with me if you take the time to read this and thanks.
Being the worst Souls game, still makes you a pretty damn good game.
ds3 stamina system is crazy..i like ds2's stamina system..however to his friends comment..if u swing a heavy weapon that does insane damage u SHOULDN'T be able to swing it 10x in a row
i can swing a drangleic sword 6x in a row and do good damage
You can't do that in any dark souls game, thotslayeraxe as an example, you can do with very high stamina 4 hits and with "normal" stamina 2 hits.
I very much agree with this. The stamina in Dark Souls III is absolutely insane. Being able to roll 20 times without needing stamina just seems silly to me. As for the weapons, it is one of the biggest reasons that I like Dark Souls II. Dark Souls II strives for realistic (mostly) combat, where weapons are slow and tiring. The thing that bothered me the most about Dark Souls III was the weapon style. It just feels out of place to dig your sword 3 feet into the ground before doing an uppercut. And sure, Dark Souls II has some odd weapons, but they were specifically designed to be quirky and not realistic. All of Dark Souls III's weapons are very unrealistic in the fighting style.
That’s a good thing
That's why there's a stamina bar -_-
Jesus, why is thid the ONLY sensible video I could find that isn't biased as shit and actually brings up facts on both sides. I love ds2 but I ain't a full blown worshiper. And I agree with the critiques but I ain't making 1 sided negative arguments who decided to hop and the ds2 hate banwaggon. You're one of the few who made an actually decent video
For some weird reason, people have a hard time sticking to the middle ground or seeing both sides of an argument. Something is either "FIGURATIVELY BEST GAME EVER!" or "LITERALLY TRASH" lol. I see that a lot personally - if I praise a game people will say I'm a blind fanboy, if I criticise it, they'll say I "just hate it." I like all of the Souls games + Bloodborne, but I can (and do) criticise them.
@@SilverMont do you think dark souls 2 is the easiest game in the dark souls series?
@@kukyri2980 They're all easy if you have friends to carry you through. On a more serious note, I think they're all difficult in their own way. Many people struggle a lot with Dark Souls II, but they simply put it to bad design. I don't think its bad design, I just think its that Dark Souls II plays a lot differently than the other souls games. People who find Dark Souls II to be the hardest might find the other souls games to be easy, and vice versa.
@@brayden43 as ive noticed, i think ur opinion of ds2 GREATLY depends on what ur first souls game was. Personally, me, i played dks1 first, then i hated ds2 (i still do). I simply hate it because i didnt have any of the fun i had in dark souls, demons souls, or dark souls 3. I find the level design and enemy placement to be horrendous, with progression feeling very slow. And the fact that theres only a handful of good bosses out of 41. I think the game suffers from "quantity over quality" because, sure it took me the longest to beat dark souls 2 out of any other game (around 110 hours), there were moments when i questioned "Why is there a gank every 2 seconds?" "Why are these bosses so poorly designed?" and "Wtf does this add to the game?" But, lets say u played dark souls 2 first than any other souls game. Most likely, it would be ur favorite, or it would always be engraved in ur brain when talking about it. Im not hating on anyone for liking/loving ds2, this is just what ive seen peoples opinions be based on.
I think Ds2 is better than 3 but 3 does not deserve the hate it gets
No shit! 99% of the people who hate on it were just jumping on a bandwagon that got started because they heard Miyazaki had no input (which is wrong anyway). It's my least favourite Souls game but that's because the others are just so amazing, DS2 is still like a 9/10.
Yeah, that's part of what I'm saying - it's totally ok to hate a game or not enjoy it. But when you hate it "just cos" that's stupid. People should always try and form their own opinions instead of just jumping on a bandwagon. And DaS2 had so many dumb complaints like that "Where's Miyazaki? This is the B team!" etc
A fellow Nicolas Cage who agrees! Although I think that DkS2 was the best in the series, your right on the money.
Haha yeah man :) For me ranking the Souls games is really hard just because they're all so amazing. If I had to choose a favourite it'd have to be Bloodborne, but funnily enough, when I get the itch the play a Souls game the one that normally pops into my head is DS2. For some reason I just don't get bored of it, even after so many playthroughs, and the DLCs are amazing!
i dont hate the game its a good game but for me it was the weakest in the series
I completely agree. I've never played ds3 or bloodborne but I've played ds1 and ds2 and I can say that I love both of the first ones. Both for different reasons. When I see people comparing the two and ruling out the second, it's almost sad. This game was unique in its own way. To me it was it's atmosphere and environment. Ds1 was unique in its basics and feat nastoliga. Bloodborne was unique in its setting and it's aggression. I haven't seen much of ds3 to judge but I know there is the nastoliga from the first dark game. Ds2 may not be the best souls game, but it's still a good game.
DS2 is my favourite souls game. I am lubed and ready for your hate.
PJ Kekker and you got none lmao
Gaddus got all lubed up for nothing
PJ Kekker hate
PJ Kekker ur a dumbass there i gave you hate
your not really a dumbass
PJ Kekker It's my fav too and I think it's obvious because I have ds2 first
Just hoping the Elden Ring implements the best of the series: DS1 level design, DS2 viability and variety of builds, DS3 increíble boss battles along with Bloodborne High Quality OST.
elden ring took almost every good thing from dark souls 2 and mixed with sekiro and bloodborne
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Weird, I can´t realice wich weapon this is. PLease someone? thanks...
tbh i liked dark souls 2 more then 3 xD the third was... idk it seemed a bit shorter and to me it felt too much like bloodborne, tho i really liked bloodborne, dark souls shouldnt be bloodborne i jist didnt enjoy dark souls 3 as much as the second dark souls 2
a lil extra bit. im not saying dark souls 2 is better then the third i do agree the third is better but i myself enjoyed the second more
roock89 Mc.FedoraPenguin Now everybody is hating on DS3 for some reason.
0816 M3RC because it's bad and probably the easiest souls game to beat at least that's my opinion
dint the guy that made Bloodborne made DS 1 and 3 while DS 2 fall to another director, with minor supervision from the main guy of the series ?
roock89 Mc.FedoraPenguin I did like ds2 the most. I played it for so long, I had 3 charecters 1 on ng++ and 2 on ng+. I played all the dlc and got all the achievements on the 360. when it got released on the x1/ps4 I bought again and made 2 characters to ng+ and got all the achievements again. Ds2 was just pure fun, I still like DS1 & 3 but, 1 had terrible frame rate and 3 had a terrible ng+. I still like them but the builds for 2 were so varied and viable.
Dark Souls 2 was my favorite one lol.
Also, here, have a sub mate, enjoyed this video a lot :D
Ty!
I played it the most. Mostly because it has the best PvP.
Pierce Hintz It's both , the first game I played and my favourite the least fav is bb and ds3 I am not saying that these games are bad it's just that I don't like them
Pierce Hintz Soul Memory killed ds2 *drops the mic*
Juggled Lotus no you're wrong. drops the mic
Dark Souls II was my first souls game and i gotta say although it gave a hell of a beating sometimes enough to make me quit it for a day or two (Shrine of PewPew Amana) it holds a special place in my heart it was there i learned the satisfaction of overcoming a hard obstacle by learning from my mistakes and trying new ways to overcome an obstacle. The thrill i felt when i finally let go of my shield and managed to beat bosses by dodging it was amazing. And nothing to this day beat the time i felt when i defeated the Fume Knight. Love all the games and this one is no different it actually holds a special place in me heart.
in the end I think we can pick these games apart if we want..but making a perfect game is so difficult if not impossible..and if the souls series didn't give us such great games then all these developers wouldn't be trying make a "souls like"game...i love all 3 games for different reasons
What a fucking excuse for having a shitty game like Dark Souls 2 not being criticized.
@@VladDascaliuc I mean if u wanna be an asshole I can't stop u..some people are just born that way so I don't blame u..i don't think every DS game was great as it could've been..sure DS2 %100 could've been better..i still liked certain things about each game..i mean if u wanna cry yourself to sleep at night cuz a game from 6yrs ago wasn't as good as u demanded that's your thing..tbh I can't name many games that would meet my standard of being "great" or almost perfect as I felt about DS1..but again, I don't see the point of sitting here crying in my milk like a baby over how much better DS2 "should've" been..and I'm not sure criticizing it to death does much good 6yrs later..it came out, I played it, had some fun and moved on..it's just a video game..A GAME..so i don't typically wet my bed at night over it..but either way I can see your the type of guy to be a prick if people don't exactly agree with your point of view so do your thing big guy👊
it's funny because not only do I love this game, but it's the one that got me hooked on souls games. Even back to Demon's Souls.
Dark souls 2 wasn't the first souls game to allow for durability breaking builds.... the brokenness of the scraping spear and the cost of fixing things in Des probably explains why durability took a back seat, also durability played more of a role if you wanted to go the cursed blood gen route in bloodborne
The thing is, sadly, dark souls 2 freezes often on my pc and it really upsets me. If anyone has any information on how to reduce the chances of freezing or stopping it completely Please let me know. I love this game so much and it sucks that it always freezes.
I've played every souls game apart from Demons' for 100+ hours at least and I still think Dark 2 had the best PvP, it certainly had the most variety in weapon viability and fashion souls after they patched it and the DLCs came out.
Indeed
Plus actual magic was viable in pvp. In ds3 you can just roll literally all sorceries, the only miracles you see are the same basic 3 or 4, and pyromancies are basically the only all around good magic. Another issue I have is the variety because in ds2 every magic school has special unique spells but in ds3 it's just soul spear and Crystal orbs, heals and tears with occasional wrath of the gods, and every dark pyromancy.
@@Beanpolr the only thing magic did in 3 was force players to constantly roll bc of how spammable it was
Am I the only one that feels like DS2 also had the best character customization?
Shadowed Dragon Films I did too character customization was on point
I hate and love the character customization.
It's like creating a sim, but less character and clothes and way more detailed face.
The bad thing is, that it takes me 15 minutes to create a charcter.
The longest time I spent was FUCKING 40 MINUTES!!
Shadowed Dragon Films
No. Literally buy Dragon's Dogma or Black Desert before you start praising such a bare-bones CC.
the best character customization [of the souls franchise]
I know the character customization of black dessert. I think to create 1 CHARACTER would take half of the play time xD
best pvp souls by far
i love it
too bad soul memory exists and its dead
Internetkrusader seriously loved dark souls 2
Yeah, ds2 still has the best PvP in the series. The mechanics take more skill then spamming R1, stamina management actually matters, Magic is viabel, powerstancing allowed for some really fun combos,...... Only problem is that Soul memory kinda ruins it. I dont get why they didnt change that in scholar. Too bad its kinda empty now.
Internetkrusader How do you figure it's dead?
I had a much easier time finding matches than in any other Soulsgame right now.
Might just be lucky though^^
Internetkrusader yes this game is very good in terms of pvp
Tinminator what sm tier?
A lot of the issues for lighting and visual issues were fixed when Dark Souls 2 SoTFS came out on PS4. The base game was not the most enjoyable, but the three DLCs were amazing. They completed the game for me. Lets not forget about having new mobs spawning for NG+ (red phantoms), making the difficulty much higher than any of the others in the franchise. In my opinion, Dark Souls 2 is my favorite. I have not played Dark Souls 3 with both DLCs, so my opinion may change. Personally I enjoyed base DkS3 more than base DkS2, but I hated the PvP so much. Everything except melee builds are extremely difficult to make viable. DkS2 made a great effort to make both PvE and PvP fun, which was true after Scholar came out.
I adore ds2. I always got a real big purgatory feel from it so thats why the wild transition elevator never bugged me. Every thing just makes so much more sense when you look at it like that.
Ds2: sotfs was my first Dark Souls game. I had alot if fun with it and it sparked my love for the series.
So a bunch of people are probably going to hate me for saying this, but after playing through all 3 of the souls games, 2 is my favorite actually by a long shot. I like the style a lot more, it feels less stuffy and cathedralesque and more kingdomy, and I love the versatility that you can have with a build with stuff like powerstancing. If I want to dual weild halberds, I can do that, if I want to dual wield greathammers sure, or you could one hand them with a different weapon or staff or shield or you could two hand it. Dark Souls 3 was fun the first time around but got boring after a few playthroughs, Dark Souls 1 was a pain in the ass at the beginning of the game but then to easy toward the end. Overall, I just have more fun play 2 than 1 or 3.
no one wants a 'cathedral of Drangleic' WE HAVE A FUCKING KINGDOM OF DRANGLEIC
Dark Souls 2, for me, had the best PvP of any Souls game. Builds were different and very exciting to fight against. Also parrying wasn't as easy as it was in 1 and 3.
I love dark souls 2 it's the one that actually made me fall in love with the souls series.
Same 🥰
@Limited Infinity and ds1 is criminally overrated. It’s almost delusional
@@zzodysseuszz eh I think Ds3 is the overrated one.
@@scarpalms22 they both are overrated. 3 and 1. If people didn’t present them as masterpiece creations beyond the likes of anything else than I wouldn’t think they’re so overrated
@@zzodysseuszz I personally love Ds1, but when people act like it’s this objectively flawless masterpiece it is super annoying. if it hadn’t had such a big impact on my life when I first played it I probably would think of it as overrated as well, so I can’t blame you. Ds3 has great bosses and music, and that’s about it. Everything else is just meh imo. Ds2 is better than 3 for sure.
Dark Souls 2 isn't from the genius that is Miyazaki (DeS, 1, BB, 3) but that certainly doesnt make it a bad game.
I can definitely say that Dark Souls 2 is the most *fun* dark souls game. The amount of dumb shit you can do, and let's not forget how much content is actually in the game (a lot).
Also, the lore may have gone off the rails from the previous installment, but the Scholar of the First Sin was really interesting.
And the DLC is great
Solid game IMO
TheRagefires It's definitely not as fun. At least not when you get killed *only* due to the bullshit hitboxes or getting stunlocked by 2 or more enemies (this game loves swarms) since poise is non existent or when you are trying to heal and it takes a decade to do so or when you dodge perfectly yet still take damage due to lingering hitbox.
@@Walamonga1313 *dark souls 3 rat stunlock* if you're unluckly enough to get surrounded by rats
You get stuck into a near impossive to escape stunlock
Dark Souls 2 is not a bad game because it's not made by Miyazaki. Dark Souls 2 is a bad game because it is poorly made.
@@VladDascaliuc finally someone who has a brain
I never really talked about this, nor researched it, so I didn't jump on any Band Wagon. I just formed these opinions myself.
I didn't know about the "Visual Downgrade" as I didn't see what it was like in its Beta/Alpha, but the graphics look very strange to me. Everything moves too smoothly and is oddly shiny. Light where it shouldn't be, light not varying depending on location.
I didn't like the animations, nor a lot of the sound effects.
Soul memory was annoying to co-op with, but my main issues lie in the lighting and animations as to why I like it the least.
Oh and warping from the start, I enjoyed earning that.
...and it's the only game I couldn't make my character pretty on.
So DaS2 has a different engine, they made a new engine for it, with full motion capture, dynamic lighting (instead of the largely prebaked that DaS1 uses) with more advanced physics, more enemies on screen, shit like that. Problem was, the 360/PS3 couldn't really handle the next gen engine. So they downgraded the visuals a LOT. And the thing with dynamic lighting is that it can be very inconsistent. That's why there's areas in DaS2 that look GREAT but others look really flat and ugly. You'll actually notice the same thing in DaS3 to a lesser extent - in that the game is kinda visually flat when it comes to the lighting, compared to the first game.
Silver Mont ds3 lighting flat compared to ds 1? Ds1 has a gorgeous engine but ds3 s is gorgeous too and next gen compared to ds1.
ds1 had a gorgeous engine? what game did you play?
I never even thought that it's bad, it's actually in alot of aspects is my favorite.
First of all - it's the only Souls game that actually have alot of new stuff on ng+ - new red enemies and some bosses have adds.
Second thing - it have Hard mode, i spend 200h+ in DS2 and 100h+ in Scholar of the First Sin and i never played not in the Covenant of Champions. Since it's a 3rd game in the series - it's obvious that veterans will want something like that.
Third - it has actually playable Cestus
Fourth - while alot of people was upset that it's not designed as a big interconnected world like DS1 - actually DS1 is ONLY souls game that have that kind of level design, not Demons before it not any after it was designed like that.
And the Fifth - DLCs are amazing.
If any, i found DS3 to be the worst - it's consists mostly of "member DS1?"-nostagla baits, alot of reused ideas (like - giant boss is just worse, less interesting version of Storm King) and bonfires every step of the way. Also 1st DLC is nowhere near as good.
Ole Gerko yeah on NG+ i was like "beginning area has hawk carrier guys..."
"AWESOME"
Ok it's nice but the boss is "pretty" not creative
I would have liked if CoC gave the option to still have coop, since I feel like it's as important a part of the experience as PvP is. Other than that it is really cool that they added a hardmode, and that in Scholar they even added incentive for normal players to dip their toe into it and see if it's manageable for them by making it so you can actually farm drops without ascetics while in the covenant. In fact Scholar took basically all of the mechanics I felt were flawed in 2 and used them to make new, better mechanics, or to work with other mechanics in such a way that they became good.
Ole Gerko dont step a single boot on the first dark souls 3 dlc while saying that crown of the burnt ivory king from dark souls 2 would be amazing.
I'm not sure what exactly you're trying to say but I felt ivory was easily the worst DLC that 2 got. Lot of cool gear, but the actual pve content was pretty garbage and used pretty much every trick in the book for cutting corners (from a mechanic forcing you to traverse the entire level twice so they could half the size of the level, to a grind for a rare drop that you need 50 of purely to fluff gametime, not to mention all the issues with the optional area, though every DLC had at least one optional boss that felt lazy- but then, Iron also had Alonne, one of the best bosses in the series). In all it was pretty disappointing after the first two DLC, which were extremely solid with really cool aesthetics and intriguing level design.
can someone tell me the name of the sword hes showing on 16: 08 and wear to find it
2h sword? Then it was probably the loyce sword.
I really liked it regardless of the flaws. Pvp was fantastic, personally I think the pvp was better in ds2 than ds3
Sam Heredia very true
Are you sure about that? The pvp system in 3 is much better in so many way's like the dlc area for pvp its better than getting put up against so lv 200 while you are lv 50
Lordofmaddness lv111 but there is no poise
thore b which game?
Nope, the PVP in Dark Souls 3 is far superior and far more fair. One example is the soul memory regarding PvP which also effects pve in a very negative way, and the hit boxes in dark souls 2 are worse which can kill the enjoyment.
The 3 DLC's of Dark souls 2 were among the greatest levels of the series.
It's a shame, too. It's a glimpse into what DaS2 could have been. Had the game been directed with a more singular focus from the beginning, the whole game would've doubtless been of a similar quality level (probably a little lower, because DLC obviously gets a lot more time/focus for individual aspects)
Except RFL/FU and brume tower those areas where unfair, beautiful but unfair
I found the dlc areas so frusturating and spammy that I couldnt get through them. Was not even close to fun. I tried to push to the good bosses but couldnt continue. Got only through the first dlc.
The only good thing in ds2
I don't dislike dark souls 2 as a game. There are honestly only a few things that make it worse that worse than either dks1 or dks3. What I really hate about the game is limited to just pvp and some of the level designs. If dks2 existed in a vacuum I would love it, but it doesn't. Dks1 set the standards to be unbelievably high and the fans set it even higher. I do enjoy the game and still play through it occasionally, but to me it's still the worst of the souls series, but being the worst in a series of games as solid as the soulsborne series is still head and shoulders above most games released.
This is 2 years old and I get that but what??? Ds2 has the best pvp in the trilogy by far. Ds1 is lacking in moveset variety and had the worst back stab mechanics in the whole series plus it's a giant clunky mess in terms of pvp that relied on unintended game mechanics to win, ds3 followed suit with the absolute worst movesets in the series and only included weapon arts on top of them so it's no less uniqe than the 1st
@@torchforce9958 dark souls 1 had some unique move sets, but the exploration of weapons and combination in dark souls 2 is really what set the mile in my opinion, especially with added Powerstancing.
@@torchforce9958 Still better than ds2
@@legendarykills9734 if you count going backwards in terms of move sets and other various areas as better then sure... Whatever floats your boat lol
@@torchforce9958 Shitting on ds3?
I'd be hard pressed to see one person say ds2 is good without shitting on ds3
I just started playing this again and I don't know why but it feels harder, I feel like I die so much quicker and the enemies feel like they do way more damage I just can't explain it.
So my oppinion:
From a PvP perspective: DS 2
From a PvE perspective: DS 3 (Bloodborne if i had to choose from all the games)
And yes Dark Souls 2 wasn't a perfect game, but did we expect one from From Software.
Dark Souls was probably the worst of the series mechanics wise ( I'm looking at you Backstab) and Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne weren't the greatest PvP wise, but still all of them were great games and I do not regret a single minute that I spend in any of these.
(Demon Souls not included because I still haven't finished it :D)
Yeah, Dark Souls (1) had a lot of issues but we generally give it a free pass because as a whole, the game is so damn fun and at the time, a very new experience (although not to those who came over from DeS)
After beating the base game of DS2 for the first time, I can say I prefer it to DS1 which I played first and possibly DS3 which was previously my favorite. The characters and new world and themes compared to 1 and 3 really appeal to me, and the new mechanics like burning effigies, soul memory, and the sheer amount of build variety make it very enjoyable for me. 9/10, the only reason it’s not a 10 is shrine of amana.
The foggy woods is my -1 ghostly enemies you can barely see cant lock onto and can get backstabbed by if you miss them..
Even not having a pyromancer class available isnt a major negative despite it being my favorite class from 1. But the inclusion of dark magic in the form of hexes pretty much countered it for me plus theres a pyromancy flame that you can reach from majula early game with enough health/+silvercat ring (12k souls? Easily acquired honestly).
Currently im on an all new 1st playthrough im level 186+ and been using the dranglic armor set and hexers hood for a long time. My weapons are a black witches staff+10 (for sorceries, miracles and hexes), the basic pyromancy flame +10, a dark infused morningstar +10, dragonblood sword +5 (from the sunken king dlc, was using the Drangleic sword but the dragonblood ones a bit stronger and faster and lighter so...), plus a dragonrider bow +5 when i need to snipe and dont want to burn magic spells.
I just wish they had a better female shape in character creation instead of a thinner male shape with broad shoulders and narrow hips.
Silver...its been too long bro!! Just seen this video and the soothing music of the game and your narration I've missed! I followed your walk through when I bought this for the ps4...got close to the end but didn't finish it as I've too many great games! I'm gonna have to load it up and find where I was with your walk through :)
The game didn't try to leech off of its predecessor, and it tried to be original. It had interesting and fun mechanics. Fun rings. You could actually punish estus. Creative areas. Good weapons. Compare this to Fanservice 3: Prepare to roll edition.
Agreed and ds3 is Blood Souls 3: Prepare to R1 edition or Bright Souls 3: DS1 areas edition
I played a lot of Dark Souls 2, but always felt like I was enjoying it in spite of it being a bad sequel to Dark Souls. After playing through Souls 3 I actually retroactively changed my stance on Souls 2, and now think it's (despite all the development issues) a fantastic follow up.
Imagine if we could like Ds2 without blindly shitting on ds3 because it doesn't focus on quantity, and this is coming from someone who likes ds2 better
R1 spamming has been a thing in every souls game, quit picking apart ds3 for flaws the other games have ffs, the amount of hate ds3 gets is cringe inducing. Ok how about this
Dark Souls Lite Fan Fiction 2: Prepare to Lie Edition
Seriously? Is there a single person who can say that Ds2 is good without blindly hating on ds3 and calling it "uNoRiGinAL anD fAnSerViCe"
That's like if I said Bloodborne was garbage.
Ds3 is just like any other game sequel, being a goddamn sequel to a game, if you want another installment in a series that has nothing to do with dark souls then play a different franchise entirely
honestly, the only thing i *HATE* about dark souls 2, is that you can't kick anymore, fuck that backhanding, I WANNA KICK SHIT!
That's fair. The kick is fun, but I do enjoy the backhand of guard breaking
Dark souls 2 is fucking great in my opinion. It feels chill af and not so fucking menacing and on your ass like every other souls game. It had way more armor and build choices than the others too, and was still pretty hard and still felt like it was laughing in your face from how shit you are. PvP was near perfect in opinion too.
Is anyone here willing to gameshare the crown of the old ivory king DLC? I'm on PS3
Probably one of the best things about this game, at least to me, was Majula. In Dark Souls 1, Firelink Shrine was supposedly a central hub of the game. Honestly, it just felt like another place to stop by. And aside from the bonfire, it really felt insignificant compared to the rest of the game. Majula, on the other hand, is where you always return to. And, as you continue to go on throughout the game, more people occupy it, building it up more and more, even if by a little bit. The music gives a somber tone, but it also strengthens what the growing town brings: hope. As if it were a new ember being brought to life, even if it would eventually flicker out in the future, whether near or distant.
I look way to deep into these things. Help me.
I’ve noticed that I have to take things more slow in DS2 compared to every other souls game. I’d say it requires more thought going into each encounter. I’m in my first real playthrough of the game, armed with nothing but my trusty mace and miracles ^^
That's not true at all. It's not thought you need, it's patience for the tedium that most fights entail.
@@VladDascaliuc exacly!like in pvp,many only will wait until you do something so they can actually engage after your mistake because if you don´t do shit,they probably will wait till the end of times lol.What i found hilarious is none of these DKS2 fans ever talk about front attacks enemies does that catch you like sideways and sometimes even on your back,a true nonsense.
IIf they love DKS2 its perfecly fine,but tryin to make the game looks better when is bottom line not so good at all is what makes me a bit on defensive.Hoo did i mentioned Soul Memory?ya the biggest crap ever invented by mankind in videogames lol
@@andalaandame8551 you’re an idiot. How is that criticism?? You’re just saying people play boring in pvp so therefore the pve is bad. That’s not an argument.what is wrong with you.
Also soul memory wasn’t bad, you just don’t like it bc it prevents twink builds..
Also again learn to fucking roll
@@VladDascaliuc wrong. The fights aren’t tedious. The fact that you think they’re tedious shows you’re trash at the game. Don’t blame the game blame the lack of skill
@@zzodysseuszz That is incorrect.
Perfectly sums up why I prefer Dark Souls 2 to 3.
It *tried* to be different, it *tried* to be it's own game while staying in the spirit of the Souls series.
Dark Souls 3, while much more polished, was much less a sequel as it was a great big roundabout of "Hey, remember *this* about the first game!? Here it is again!! Remember this person from the first game?? Here they are again!! Remember this stuff/place/theme/level/enemy/armor, etc, etc from the first game!?!? Here it all is again!!! Man, boy oh boy that first game sure was SOMETHING SPECIAL, EH?!!"
Steven Pitts ds3 was my fsvourite
+Rhett lama i hated ds3
rmhanzel no ng plus differences? There are certain items and rings you can only get in certain new games, no covenant purposes? Ds3 has the most diverse covenants out of the series, each covenant has its own purpose, they also included the mad phantoms which is great, the look of the game is amazing, it also has the best bosses, and it’s got a very good level layout. I never gave a shit about poise so that complaint is invalid to me, I don’t pvp so I could care less about r1 spam. Ds3 is my favorite in the series, bloodborne is my second favorite
rmhanzel how the fuck are
They locked behind a paywall? And yes shit is different, there are certain new game plus rings that only appear in new game plus and a few new game plus 2 rings and a plus 3 ring that you can only get in new game plus 2, that’s called new shit appearing in new gAme plus and on top of the enemies being harder like usual means new game plus is different and also since it’s in the base game it’s not a paywall since you don’t pay to get them
rmhanzel the layout was a lot more diverse in 3 then 2, yes it wasn’t as complex as 1 but no other souls game is. But they made the game have alternate paths and there is a lot of different ways to go about the game, it’s somewhat linear, but when you think about it all the souls games are line war to some degree. Also all souls games it’s beat a boss then bonfire and move to the next area so that’s not a valid complaint, dark souls one had the best world design but dark souls 3 hands down has the best level design, the bosses for the most part were great and some of the best in the series and if you disagree well there are millions of souls players who agree an me on that.
Hey Silver, mind sharing exactly what each one of those fashion souls shown in that sequence of rotating shots are? I haven't seen some of that armor myself.
I have a video called "Dark Souls II Fashion Souls (Female)" or something along the lines of that - I would imagine most of the builds in this video (along with a bunch of others) are demonstrated and listed there! If not, you can just shoot me another comment and describe which one you mean in particular and I'll tell ya.
Thank you for the quick reply! I love your videos!
Thank you for making this video! I totally agree with you. It's nice knowing I'm not the only one who thinks the same.
i'd say people hate on ds3 more. i think DS in general just has a pretty toxic fan base that complains about anything and everything
each souls game does and tries things a little different in a way where I can't honestly rank any of them better than another. They're all fun in their own ways.
brendan a'hearn Same
a hardcore fanbase allways sucks. fallout,elder scrolls,final fantasy, Zelda,gta i don't care witch one you chose there will allways be a fanbase that says the older games were better or worse and start attaking each other over it. Very few know how to discus something in a normal manner and thats why it's better to stay out of those shitshows.
brendan a'hearn Certainly right on the second part.
Yes, this bothers me so much. I'm not saying people have to like Ds3 but it's so fucking absurd when people say it's a bad game. The souls fanbase that you're referring to will never be happy. They want a carbon copy of ds1 but then they want something completely different and unique. Like those types of people will hate it because it doesn't fit their perfect fucking vision of what it should be. Most of them can't even find one good thing about it. It's funny how now all of a sudden everyone's a ds2 apologist. That shows you how little they actually know of what they want of of the souls series.
Where is this Silver Mont book and where can I steal it?
+Split Was Taken you can steal it on the internet. Or you can grab it on Amazon or pay like $1 and get it from my patreon lol
Silver Mont Thanks, I'll have to check it out. If I get around to getting it I will go through your patreon, but I feel the need to pay more than one dollar, after all, you bring us all this awesome content
Silver Mont you should do audio books for em. love your voice. helps me sleep at night
It's fine dude, the book really isn't worth much if we're talking about quality wise. Time wise? Yeah it took me a long ass time to write, but I never wrote it with the intent of making any money, it was just a fun hobby thingo.
My main complaint with the game mechanic-wise (and just a prior heads-up: this is on Xbox 360 and I'm unable to connect to Xbox Live so I don't know if it was ever patched out or not) was that very often when an enemy runs at you (which happens quite a lot) and I try to anticipate and get in a well-timed strong attack from the Claymore, the character somehow turns about 90 or more degrees to the side, completely missing the attack. This happened so much more often than it should, to the point where I *expect* it to happen and so using a thrusting attack (I'm pretty sure it happened with other weapons as well) on any enemy who is moving rapidly at me, and when it does, it very often gets me killed or at the very least has me waste an Estus sip. Recently, I noticed it even happens when I do the normal swings, but thankfully they're wide enough to still connect despite it, whereupon the character seems to face the right way again. I don't know if anyone has had this problem, but it's really frustrating.
Story-wise, I have grievances with it as well, but I think those are far too detailed for this comment and I don't think anyone would read it (let alone respond) if I made it that long. I watched Hbomberguy's video about the game shortly after (completely accidentally) finishing the story, so I understand its main themes just fine, whereas I didn't at first. Here's all I'm really going to say about it: I went into Dark Souls (1) having never even heard the name. It must have taken me at least 9 months (including intervals, sometimes months-long, of absence due to rage quitting or not knowing where the path to a new area was) but, despite occasional help from RUclips for navigation or to know when I'd see some of the side characters again (even starting to get into reading books around the same time iirc), I remembered, without writing anything down, what the NPCs told me and eventually, after the Bells of Awakening, I understood how to move forward in the story. Only roughly, but it was all I needed. By the time I got to the end, it felt like the end of a meticulous journey about what it means to be human, and it felt good. In DS2, I knew what type of game I was in for and had no intervals of stopping for anything short of my studies. Yet, aside from the vague "gather greater souls" or "produce the King's symbol", at no point did I understand what I was working towards. When I (repeat: completely accidentally) got to the end, my only reaction was: "...huh?"
Are you holding the left analog stick in a direction whilst you swing? Dark Souls II has a thing where with certain weapons (most obvious with bigger ones) you can change the direction of the swing with the left analog stick, even when locked-on. You just need to train yourself to get into the habit of releasing the left stick once you start swinging.
I'm not sure. I don't think so. If I am, then it's most likely still just forwards, towards the enemy, who themselves is often already in their own attack animation by then (and since I'm locked on, the camera is perfectly still). At least I'm very certainly not holding it in the angle the character goes (which I think is always to the right). I recall one time the character did a full 180 even though the enemy absolutely didn't get behind me at any point and didn't even approach that fast. I won't be able to test it out until next weekend, but I'll be sure to compare when I'm playing again. It really just happens at the very last instant before the character leans in for the thrust.
Have you ever had that happen yourself?
Just tested it out, and it absolutely happened irrespective of whether or not I was touching the left stick (and massive got me killed, you should've seen it). If it helps you envision it better: I tested it in the Old Iron Keep, by the first bonfire, on the Alonne Knights, especially though not exclusively on the ones who charge you before and on the bridge to the Smelter Demon.
*Iron Keep (ffs I keep making the mistake of putting "Old" before it whenever I think about it)
I’m nearing the end of dark souls remastered and it’s dlc. Gonna jump into dark souls 2 straight after is this wise or will I get burnt out before I can finish it
Uhh I think you'll be good but if ur not sure get a break from souls games for a couple of days and try hop in
Er No I jumped straight in and I’m at the iron keep as we speak (very odd how you get there but hey ho lol) and I’m loving it! Equally as much as the first. The original still edges it so far in terms of the level design in the first half but overall this game doesn’t deserve to be the black sheep far from being a Castlevania simons quest lol
@@Poobell1 yeah i actually like 2 more then dark souls 3 not saying 3 is bad but glad you like the game
The darkness and evil atmosphere of this game brings me back year after year
How bout this year?
@@thebeeghoont7888 yea
I have been enjoying my play through with my friend something I wasn’t able to do in dark souls 1 with the awful servers
I mean ds1 does have passwords so you can play with friends better maybe your connection or your friends connection is kinda bad
@@ncrranger3299 ds1 did not have password, no. the remaster does I think, however. Passwords were very highly advertised for ds3 and basically everything made after bloodborne got em, I’m an Xbox guy so idk if bloodborne has them or not but
Would you guys still recommend me Dark souls II scholar of the first sin?! I have already finished dark souls 3 fire fades edition and bloodborne goty edition!
If you've not played Dark Souls II, then I would, yeah. Just go in with an open mind because it's pretty damn different from the other games in the franchise.
How do i get dark souls 2 to stop nerfing litterly every weapon i have picked up. Also i kept getting hit by the tree dude when i was 20 feet? away and behind him. I love the game but the hit boxes of a few guys hit me like that alot. PLease tell me how to counter this effect easily.
I don't think they've done any balance patches for a while
Thanks for that. I stopped playing because of the unreliability of my gear.
i am so glad someone else caught on to the iron keep thing i was always wondering how the hell you cant see iron keep from the earthen peak if the iron keep is supposedly above earthen peak
Your voice is really calming and pretty
I think that's the first time it's been called pretty, haha. Well, if you like it, I'm glad
What's the music/theme around 14:30?
Edit: I think it's the end credits.
What is the armor setup with the witch hat at 15:18? It looks awesome. :o
If you check out my "Dark Souls II Female Fashion Souls" video, it was probably in that one! I think I showed all of mine in there.
I personally think DS2 is the best one out of all three of them.
You're free to be wrong.
Limited Infinity Ds1 and 3 have the least amount of bad bosses combined compared to 2
Limited Infinity cringe
based
pretty sure 'PONG' didn't have cut content
I bet you it did haha, they probably originally wanted it to be 8 player or some shit. Hell, games probably had even more back then because they had like 1kb of data to work with!
an idea is different than cut content tho cut content is stuff they were going to put in the game but scrapped it after already have some base models voice acting and such already to go but cut it out coz they didnt think it was gonna be good enough or it didnt quite fit or time restraints
How do I make a character who looks like yours? And what’s the armor she’s wearing at 2:00?
I've just been replaying DS2: SOTFS, and I'd have to add two more connected ones: poor in-area enemy variety, and extremely tedious encounter set-ups. While it's a problem throughout, in places like the Iron Keep and shrine of Amana, the second issue really shows in Crown of the Iron King. I count 6 main encounters that are just awful, even having gone through this DLC before and knowing what's coming, these encounters just require tedious pre-work or just come down to luck/extreme foreknowledge to be able to survive.
1 - Room of Doom - I think we all know the one. Drop down into a virtually no escape room with one iron warrior (that you haven't encountered before) and a boat load of regular enemies, an ashen idol, and one extra enemy throwing bombs just as the cherry on top. Trying to maneuver and use the wonky barrel enemies and sniping really feels like the only option here, even if it's cheap.
2 - Lightning assassins after doom - Right after you leave and destroy a possessed armor, you meet another new enemy... who is a ranged/melee hybrid (fume sorcerer). Cool enemy, neat concept, but then you have a few normal enemies that decide to pop out of the ash behind you while you are on the way there while he is zapping you. Not the worst encounter, but a cheap punch that can easily kill you, especially immediately after the previous one.
3 - Shadow Tower - Maldron the Assassin, anyone? Once again, a really neat idea, and actually rather well executed.... but if you let Maldron escape (and its mostly a crap shoot whether you can stop him or not) you may as well head back, even without him we are talking an enormously difficult swarm of regular enemies and possessed armor, backed up by an ashen idol that curses you and refuses to let them die. Also with more bomb throwers to throw you off. Thankfully, not required to beat the DLC, but it does have some great rewards.
4 - Shadow Hall - Same overall issues as Shadow Tower, just in a cramped hallway with four or five enemies (one of whom is a possessed armor).
5 - Triple Iron Warrior - I just find the iron warriors to be difficult by themselves, but having three of them sprout from the ground like tulips is just absurd. There is no warning as to where they are or how many there are the first time you go down, and dealing with two at the same time is practically a death sentence.
6 - Memory of the Old Iron King - Sir Alonne is amazing, but the swarm of Alonne knights backed up by salamanders in the first room and an archer killzone in the second is just horrible. If you can't break the Alonne knight's poise, they will just slash and stab you to death as they come at you two/three at a time. Adding ranged enemies to the mix is just cruel, the whole area has me beating my head against the desk every time. I finally decided to just patiently wear down the encounter numbers until there was nothing left so I could peacefully stroll to the actually really good boss
It's not that these are just difficult, it's that these are encounters that end up with you dealing with situations that can lead to almost guaranteed death if not dealt with in extremely specific ways, and often involve threats that you have no way of knowing about until after you are already doomed. The high damage output of enemies in this area makes getting out of a bad situation almost impossible, especially if they've popped up behind you without warning. It's not fun, it just feels arbitrary. The bosses, on the other hand, are the best in DS2. Oh, and this is not even mentioning the extra multiplayer focused areas in each of the DLCs (like Iron Passage). All of that said, I still think there is a consistently decent quality level on most of the locations in DS2, and, mixed with the overall glut of content, actually pushes it ahead of the teeny tiny world of DS3 in my book. It's not as good as 1 though.
Recently replayed this game. It's got its perks and is overally by all means a decent game. However, I have no idea why some people consider this their favorite souls game, or even better than 3, But that's just me and my ftiends. We just find it unnecessarily slow and clunky, as well as relatively boring to look at for the most part. Then again, we also think PVP is trash no matter what game, so that's not a factor for us.
On a side note. What the actual fuck is wrong with me? I got to the fume knight scared as hell, knowing that this was supposedly the boss that gave people the most trouble, and I beat it on my second try. Yeah he does a lot of damage, but he's not really all that hard. When I went to fight Sir Allone, however, I got my ass handed to me on a silver platter, that guy was intense, but totally amazing.
Expectations can really mess with you!
Dark souls 2 is my favorite game in the series, 3 being my least favorite. I liked the areas, weapons, and combat feel. I like all the souls games but I enjoyed 2 the most
Just finished Ds1 and started playing DS2. It's got some differences but overall it's very familiar. I just hope I will enjoy it as much as DS1.
Has anyone considered that the transition from Earthern Peak to the Iron keep could be a volcano? The elevator goes up to the mouth of an active volcano where the Iron keep was built before it was so active.
Although you can see everything surrounding Earthen Peak from the outside. Bizarrely, in the loading screen you can (or could) see a volcano behind the peak. It's not there in game, weirdly.
Thank you very much for this video.
I liked DS2 very much when I played it (normal version, not Scholar) and never understood the massive and blind hate it got. Gonna play it again soon (Scholar this time) and try out some different classes and weapons I never really used that much, and I'm super excited to visit this world again.
I still hope that in some years, when people look back at the Souls games, they realize that it wasn't the horrible monster everyone made it out to be, and the game gets the respect and love it truly deserves.
After playing all the souls game ds2 always seems to stand out in a good and bad way in my opinion. I feel I've spent most of my time on ds1 and ds2 out of the 5 and the I think the reason many people hate this game as I initially did was it's poor visuals and level design and its clunky weapon arts. The reason this game has replay value is because of its extensive arsenal of weapons and armor but the actual content and boss's design is lacking in my view and that's probably why people seem to either love or hate this game.
I’ve never had hit detection issues in ds2. I have experienced delayed grab animation but from my experience that seems to be a result of the rolling animation being uninterruptible
Seeing as DS1 is yet to be ported to PS4, should I play DS2 on PS4? Note: I'm currently playing both DS3 and Bloodborne.
Also, could DS1 be explained to me? Mainly the mechanics, such as combat, leveling, bonfires, etc in terms of DS3. Would i enjoy it?
Hopefully DaS1 will get a port to PS4. But yeah, PS4 is probably the best way to play DaS2, or on PC if you don't mind running into more hackers.
And the first game? It's very similar to the third, from a mechanical perspective. DaS1, BB DaS3 and Demon's Souls all feel pretty similar, DaS2 is the one that stands out as being different. You can level up at any bonfire in the first game, you can also upgrade and repair your weapons at the bonfires if you have a certain item. Warping at bonfires can only be done about halfway through the game though.
All of the games are good though, so I'd say yeah, you'd probably enjoy it.
Oh wow a defense of dark souls 2 that isn’t an utter garbage video like Hbomberguy’s video. Bravo my dude.
I didn't really set out to make a defence, but I guess it did kinda turn out that way. I mean I've got a lot of issues with the game, but I still think it did a lot of good things, too. Things are rarely black/white good/bad for me, I think it's good to look at both sides, right?
hbomberguy is a twat
Brightroot hbomberguy’s video isn’t bad. He makes valid points. The major errors is his lack of elaboration
My Hentai Girl agreed. But his dark souls 2 defence is not that bad. Just exaggeratedly bad
HBombers video is actually okay, the main issues are just screeching, tangents and lack of elaboration. I personally enjoy his video
Thank you. I love Dark Souls 2 so much, I went up to like NG+4! When in Dark Souls I gave up on NG+
I went on to NG+ on my first playthrough and then made another character got that to NG+2 and then i made even more unnecessary characters
Transition from shaded woods to drangleic castle also is quite weird but not as noticable, after going trough tunel that leads to castle it suddenly is night and weather is rainy.
I have to ask, where is it the fight at the very start of this video is taking place? I cannot for the life of me remember a ledge like that in DS2.
Edit: Is it in Crown of the Old Iron King? When I think about it, I never finished that DLC.
It's probably from one of the DLCs if you don't recognise it, yeah.
my major hatred from ds2 was the complete onslaught of unchallenging bosses one after another, the whole thing felt like a boss rush mode
Yeah, that's something I gotta agree with.
You're literally only feeling that AFTER playing a souls game...
Funny thing is, when I played DS2 it was my very first Souls game. I struggled HARD, bosses didn't seem easy AT ALL and I simply got my ass kicked every second of the game, until I got gud of course.
After that I went on and played DS1 and almost found it boring how "easy" it was. Only O&S, Artorias and Manus gave me a little bit of a hard time (well, and Capra demon but that is just due to horrible design and camera). Overall, DS1 didn't seem harder than DS2 at all, simply because it wasn't my first Souls experience.
thats something I like about the game, there are alot of areas in ds3 and bloodborne that I think were boring, and would benefit from having an extra, skippable boss. especially ds3 considering it has awful areas outside of prince lothrics domain.
(like how central yharnam had the cleric beast, hunstmans copse had the chariot, iron keep had the smelter demon, if you count the areas as one the pit in majula had the rat vanguard that leads to the gutter but can be skipped. there are more but I dont need to list them all.)
i love this game. i really dont see why its so hated like there are some things that i would change but it is not horrible. dark souls 3 is my favorite
What is the armor set at 15.45 ?
I found the vastness and weapons fascinating, although that you have to upgrade anything to make the weapon viable was a crutch I found far too under stimulating. When I found out you could break that spear to get a kickass moveset though...
Ah yeah, that was a nice gimmick. DaS2 had quite a few things like that, huh?