@CelicasForEver Corrino has the Sardaukar, which makes their infantry the strongest. As a consequence, their vehicles and aircraft are weaker. However, all their infantry units start off as veterans. The subhouses would be: Fremen Ixians Bene Tlielax (Tlielaxu) Smugglers Spacing Guild
From what I understand Harkonnen1337, Azartusfar is referring to the IMAGE I matched with the song. Yes, the image is from an anime show, NOT the Emperor game the song is from.
Westwood was once completely their own entity (notably during the days of Red Alert 1), and then they eventually merged with EA. Westwood still was their own entity during Emperor's hayday, yet shared profits and what not with EA. Now, EA has completely overtaken Westwood and good old Westwood studios is no more. So yes, EA is now basically Westwood.
@Chrisjh0223 I msut agree with you, i would probaly never have found these great songs if you didn't, most music i listen to is techno and trance and all that jazz, but most of them have anime characters on the screen, which is the conection to my music and your, this has also got me into trying to find them game, ty ^^
@SirJust: Chris apparantly updated this video with a download link to this song (and forgot about this comment of yours). Look at where it says "MP3 download link" in the details panel of this video. In fact, he updated all of the Emperor: Battle for Dune music videos with music download links.
There is a way. In the file data/music there are the some music files for each race, which contain the 2 skirmish games' music tracks for each race. There's a notepad file saying which tracks to play while at skirmish mode. There's another notepad file saying which tracks to play while at campaign. So by changing what is written there u can listen to different music. I don't know what you must write to play the music, i do know that you must have the respective cd in your drive to play them
@MainHeretic and have each house have a counter for something and nothin similar, ya know like rocket soldiers every house has something different. like mayve attredies has its power in mechs. harkonnen has it power in tanks and some sort of commando. house ordos has its trength through sabotage infatry or chemical weapons. and of course house corrino with its valiant sardukar elites. that would make a totally new era of gaming man
@CelicasForEver I was thinking the Atreides should have Ginaz Swordmasters (i.e. Duncan Idaho-esque fighters), Minotaurus, decently-balanced infantry, and Air Superiority. Harkonnen has strong emphasis on vehicular armor and firepower, Devastators come into play, and they produce cheap "expendable" infantry. Ordos makes things relying on subterfuge and "cloak and dagger" tactics like stealth infantry and tanks (albeit armor suffers), Deviators, saboteurs.
You're welcome. As for your music question, I'm not sure. If I were you I would ask this question at a forum for this game. Wait a minute, is there an audio/sound option available during Skirmish? If so, I'm sure you have music customizations there. Just a guess though. Here's hoping someone who knows the answer eventually stumbles across this vid. >_>
@CelicasForEver Game would be a direct sequel to Emperor. The known universe has been thrown into anarchy after the defeat of the Emperor Worm. The three houses fight one another in a final great war to ascend to the throne and restore order. All conventions are abolished and, pretty much, anything goes. However, House Corrino comes into the eqution, opting to rebuild its strength and reclaim the Golden Lion Throne.
@Bos187 All I needed were Sardaukar and Fremen to beat the hell out of any threat. Kobras and Minotauri would get annihilated by Fedaykin, infantry would get cut down by Fremen snipers. Devastators would fall to Sardaukar elites, and Sardaukar troops would cut their bases down like trees.
@CelicasForEver Ordos would involve re-establishing a government on Draconis IV following the demise of the Executrix council. Then, you use deception, lies, and trickery to gain allies and eliminate the other houses to control Dune. Corrino would start on Salusa Secundus as the late Emperor Frederick's son/daughter, rallying the splintered Sardaukar and uniting them under your banner. Then, you conquer the subhouses to have a force strong enough to reclaim the Throne.
Yeap, Suigintou is the most metal of the rozen maiden, her design screams of metal themes (a real sword as a weapon, black wings, white hair, blue fire magical attacks, can invoke dragons, black clothes and her dream world was some sort of frozen ruined city, oh, and let's not even start with her personality), in fact, they actually used some sort of heavy metal music during some of her battle scenes (Zannin na Kougeki from the Rozen Maiden OST) TL:DR Suigintou is metal badass :)
@CelicasForEver Atreides campaign start with quelling a revolt on Caladan. Then, it would involve diplomacy with subhouses to grow stronger. Gaining allies as you conquer Arrakis and the Spice. Harkonnen campaign would start with you as a betrayed General and rightful heir, revolting against the current Baron on Giedi Prime, getting your revenge and claiming the title for yourself. Then, you use fear, extortion and force to gain allies and conquer the planet /spice.
@TheBaronVladimir I dont use Devastators for their speed. They are painfully slow. And the funny thing is that an experienced player of Ordos can take em out incredibly fast with Lazer Tanks, especially if there are Elite Lazer Tanks involved. And if there are any NIABs around, then Devastators turn useless. 1 NIAB can take out a Devastator. It can just hit n run+ it has self repair.
Funny shit, I am playing the Ordos missions. Haven`t tried online I guess there is no1 around. Is there a way to mess around in the Westwood files so that in skirmish games all music is played instead of only the 2 standard tracks?
@UberGadriel You didn't REALLY read what I said, right? I was only saying deviator is the best counter for devastators. It can take out a freakin' ARMY of those on it's own. But for everything else I also prefer lasertanks and apcs. Kobra's... I'd love to, but I usually have already won by the time they reach the enemy base..
There's one sound file for the whole game only. And a notepad file, dictating which tracks to play at what time. Unfortunantly, i can't mess with that file :) maybe some1 else can
@TheBaronVladimir For Spice Harvesters I use cheap Infantry to kill. I just send about 20 missle infantry to destroy em. Harvesters are even more vulnerable when taken by a Carrialls, as AA infantry destroys the plane with the harvester on it. As for running down the bases I found a new way. Make masses of Combat Tanks. I dont really use Missle Tanks as they are way too slow. I use Inkwine Catapults because of its range and effectiveness on buldings, not to mention its AoE and anti infantry
@MainHeretic If you want the "Westwood" team to do it, then you want Petroglyph, not EA. Most, if not all of the former Westwood employees who were bought out by EA are now in Petroyglyph. Petroglyph is basically the new Westwood Studios. As for if that's possible, I'm not sure. I know EA owns the C&C Franchise now. I wouldn't be surprised if they own Dune as well. It'd be great if Petroglyph got them back.
@TheBaronVladimir I dont know about that. I find House Harkonnen be more of the "sky lords" than House Atreides. I mean think about it. They got stronger airforce, not to mention AA infantry (House Atreides doesnt have AA infantry), and they are the only ones with Air Defence Platforms. I pretty much always use ADP in massive numbers. Thats the only way I actually win a game with Harkonnen.
@Bos187 No belive me deviator is completly out of question here. Sure it has a stronger shield than Lazer Tanks, but its rate of fire and movement speed make it easy to kill him. Not to mention how IT CAN MISS ITS TARGET. I have tried that but it just doesnt work for me. With Ordos I use 3 things to win, Lazer Tanks, Kobra Units, and Elite APCs.
yea the music is so good it adds alot and so stupid why they left it out of the skirmish and online games. There is no music menu in the game maybe u can mess around with the program. If someone knows plz post.
@TheBaronVladimir I know. Altho I now only play with House Ordos, as it has incredible units, with fast pace and self repair technology. So find House Harkonnen weaker than House Ordos for its terrible pace.
No during Emperors haydays Westwood was basically just a puppet on stick. Just take a look at the opening sequence and main menu of the game. You'll see EA logo everywhere with Westwood Studios given only a small amount of space in the lower right corner. They also weren't given such a freedom in development like they had in Tiberian Sun. EA basically told them what to do and then took all the credit for the work. They really aren't Westwood.. almost none of the people from WW work there anymore
EA (since Westwood is no more) needs to make a "Dune 5" game. Atreides, Harkonnen, Ordos and maybe be a little more faithful to the books and make House Corrino playable.
@UberGadriel Attacking a harvester with infantry is a fail. All the player needs to do is run over the infantry with it...Besides, that's the point of harvester to have heavy armor in the first place..Most of the times good players will drop them to your army positions as a decoy for your units to shoot at while rushing their main force at them making it an easy win. Masses of combat tanks is a fail too, AT infantry are cheaper and more effective than the tanks.
@MainHeretic deffinatley but i dont have that much faith in EA. ever since westwood was baught out EA has had a record for producing shit games. thats just my opinion but if they start new like blizzard did with starcraft2 then there might be some hope. more intense 3D interaction. and possibly an interactive game like starcraft 2 but way better and im totally with u on the house corrino thing. the imperial houses r bad ass.
@Chrisjh0223 Yeah and look what shitty EA did to old C&C, C&C 4 isnt even C&C anymore, you only build units, IT MAKES NO SENSE AND SUCKS> i hate EA they usually wreck games. :(
@CelicasForEver
Corrino has the Sardaukar, which makes their infantry the strongest. As a consequence, their vehicles and aircraft are weaker. However, all their infantry units start off as veterans.
The subhouses would be:
Fremen
Ixians
Bene Tlielax (Tlielaxu)
Smugglers
Spacing Guild
That is true. Only the music that Frank made himself (Atreides soundtrack and previous Dune games) is available on there.
From what I understand Harkonnen1337, Azartusfar is referring to the IMAGE I matched with the song. Yes, the image is from an anime show, NOT the Emperor game the song is from.
Westwood was once completely their own entity (notably during the days of Red Alert 1), and then they eventually merged with EA. Westwood still was their own entity during Emperor's hayday, yet shared profits and what not with EA. Now, EA has completely overtaken Westwood and good old Westwood studios is no more. So yes, EA is now basically Westwood.
@Chrisjh0223 I msut agree with you, i would probaly never have found these great songs if you didn't, most music i listen to is techno and trance and all that jazz, but most of them have anime characters on the screen, which is the conection to my music and your, this has also got me into trying to find them game, ty ^^
awsome music man, thanks A LOT for uploading these tracks.
If the video pic was full of Devastators then the radiation, and win, level would have been high, but not toxic.
Only a screen filled with Harkonnen Devastators would have been fit for this track.
@SirJust: Chris apparantly updated this video with a download link to this song (and forgot about this comment of yours). Look at where it says "MP3 download link" in the details panel of this video. In fact, he updated all of the Emperor: Battle for Dune music videos with music download links.
There is a way. In the file data/music there are the some music files for each race, which contain the 2 skirmish games' music tracks for each race. There's a notepad file saying which tracks to play while at skirmish mode.
There's another notepad file saying which tracks to play while at campaign.
So by changing what is written there u can listen to different music.
I don't know what you must write to play the music, i do know that you must have the respective cd in your drive to play them
@MainHeretic and have each house have a counter for something and nothin similar, ya know like rocket soldiers every house has something different.
like mayve attredies has its power in mechs. harkonnen has it power in tanks and some sort of commando. house ordos has its trength through sabotage infatry or chemical weapons. and of course house corrino with its valiant sardukar elites. that would make a totally new era of gaming man
@CelicasForEver
I was thinking the Atreides should have Ginaz Swordmasters (i.e. Duncan Idaho-esque fighters), Minotaurus, decently-balanced infantry, and Air Superiority. Harkonnen has strong emphasis on vehicular armor and firepower, Devastators come into play, and they produce cheap "expendable" infantry. Ordos makes things relying on subterfuge and "cloak and dagger" tactics like stealth infantry and tanks (albeit armor suffers), Deviators, saboteurs.
the start is awsome
You're welcome. As for your music question, I'm not sure. If I were you I would ask this question at a forum for this game.
Wait a minute, is there an audio/sound option available during Skirmish? If so, I'm sure you have music customizations there. Just a guess though. Here's hoping someone who knows the answer eventually stumbles across this vid. >_>
@CelicasForEver
Game would be a direct sequel to Emperor. The known universe has been thrown into anarchy after the defeat of the Emperor Worm. The three houses fight one another in a final great war to ascend to the throne and restore order. All conventions are abolished and, pretty much, anything goes. However, House Corrino comes into the eqution, opting to rebuild its strength and reclaim the Golden Lion Throne.
@Bos187
All I needed were Sardaukar and Fremen to beat the hell out of any threat. Kobras and Minotauri would get annihilated by Fedaykin, infantry would get cut down by Fremen snipers. Devastators would fall to Sardaukar elites, and Sardaukar troops would cut their bases down like trees.
@bruteslayer01: Yes, that is suigintou from Rozen Maiden.
music+pic=divine
@CelicasForEver
Ordos would involve re-establishing a government on Draconis IV following the demise of the Executrix council. Then, you use deception, lies, and trickery to gain allies and eliminate the other houses to control Dune.
Corrino would start on Salusa Secundus as the late Emperor Frederick's son/daughter, rallying the splintered Sardaukar and uniting them under your banner. Then, you conquer the subhouses to have a force strong enough to reclaim the Throne.
Yeap, Suigintou is the most metal of the rozen maiden, her design screams of metal themes (a real sword as a weapon, black wings, white hair, blue fire magical attacks, can invoke dragons, black clothes and her dream world was some sort of frozen ruined city, oh, and let's not even start with her personality), in fact, they actually used some sort of heavy metal music during some of her battle scenes (Zannin na Kougeki from the Rozen Maiden OST) TL:DR Suigintou is metal badass :)
Really good music! Wonderful!
Frank Klepacki = Atreides soundtrack.
David Arkenstone = Harkonnen soundtrack.
Jarrid Mendelson = Ordos soundtrack.
@CelicasForEver
Atreides campaign start with quelling a revolt on Caladan. Then, it would involve diplomacy with subhouses to grow stronger. Gaining allies as you conquer Arrakis and the Spice. Harkonnen campaign would start with you as a betrayed General and rightful heir, revolting against the current Baron on Giedi Prime, getting your revenge and claiming the title for yourself. Then, you use fear, extortion and force to gain allies and conquer the planet /spice.
It`s not on Frank Klepacki`s site, only a few of Dune are present there.
@TheBaronVladimir I dont use Devastators for their speed. They are painfully slow. And the funny thing is that an experienced player of Ordos can take em out incredibly fast with Lazer Tanks, especially if there are Elite Lazer Tanks involved. And if there are any NIABs around, then Devastators turn useless. 1 NIAB can take out a Devastator. It can just hit n run+ it has self repair.
Now I kinda want to get this game.
One of the best Soundtrack of the game. I think than the Harkonnen have the best music.
"firing sequence initiated"
hah its suigintou from rozen maiden :D nice song
Funny shit, I am playing the Ordos missions.
Haven`t tried online I guess there is no1 around.
Is there a way to mess around in the Westwood files so that in skirmish games all music is played instead of only the 2 standard tracks?
Odd. I once googled "ghola.mp3" and I got access to download every single song from there except Unsuspected Attack.
Try that search I mentioned.
@UberGadriel You didn't REALLY read what I said, right?
I was only saying deviator is the best counter for devastators.
It can take out a freakin' ARMY of those on it's own.
But for everything else I also prefer lasertanks and apcs.
Kobra's... I'd love to, but I usually have already won by the time they reach the enemy base..
FOR THE BARON!!!!
@UberGadriel what about a deviator? it can take out entire armies of devastators!
Shoot one, make it selfdestruct, rinse and repeat. Easy peasy!
@Chrisjh0223 Oh. I saw armed infantry, sand and combines, when I listen to this. Suigintou is really... unusual with Westwood music...
No, i'm referring to all of it the image and the song.
There's one sound file for the whole game only. And a notepad file, dictating which tracks to play at what time. Unfortunantly, i can't mess with that file :) maybe some1 else can
Sounds like the fifth Dune game.
@TheBaronVladimir
For Spice Harvesters I use cheap Infantry to kill. I just send about 20 missle infantry to destroy em. Harvesters are even more vulnerable when taken by a Carrialls, as AA infantry destroys the plane with the harvester on it.
As for running down the bases I found a new way. Make masses of Combat Tanks. I dont really use Missle Tanks as they are way too slow. I use Inkwine Catapults because of its range and effectiveness on buldings, not to mention its AoE and anti infantry
You're very welcome. ^_^
By the way, on skirmish games, computer plays only two music tracks for each house, doesn't play the rest (like this one). Is it configurable?
@MainHeretic If you want the "Westwood" team to do it, then you want Petroglyph, not EA. Most, if not all of the former Westwood employees who were bought out by EA are now in Petroyglyph. Petroglyph is basically the new Westwood Studios.
As for if that's possible, I'm not sure. I know EA owns the C&C Franchise now. I wouldn't be surprised if they own Dune as well. It'd be great if Petroglyph got them back.
@TheBaronVladimir I dont know about that. I find House Harkonnen be more of the "sky lords" than House Atreides. I mean think about it. They got stronger airforce, not to mention AA infantry (House Atreides doesnt have AA infantry), and they are the only ones with Air Defence Platforms. I pretty much always use ADP in massive numbers. Thats the only way I actually win a game with Harkonnen.
@BraUnY74: This picture fits the music really well.
What do you not remember Azartusfar? What do you consider a different thing?
@Bos187 No belive me deviator is completly out of question here. Sure it has a stronger shield than Lazer Tanks, but its rate of fire and movement speed make it easy to kill him. Not to mention how IT CAN MISS ITS TARGET. I have tried that but it just doesnt work for me. With Ordos I use 3 things to win, Lazer Tanks, Kobra Units, and Elite APCs.
yea the music is so good it adds alot and so stupid why they left it out of the skirmish and online games.
There is no music menu in the game maybe u can mess around with the program.
If someone knows plz post.
organs scare me
@TheBaronVladimir
I know. Altho I now only play with House Ordos, as it has incredible units, with fast pace and self repair technology. So find House Harkonnen weaker than House Ordos for its terrible pace.
The song and totally different thing. I assume this is some show or game not the one im talkin about.
Hey dude, where can I get these songs?? I only got the ones Klepacki made. Because just googling the name and adding .mp3 doesnt get me anywhere :(
Who made the rest of the music? They are as good as Frank
It isn't the only company EA has devoured... :(
No during Emperors haydays Westwood was basically just a puppet on stick. Just take a look at the opening sequence and main menu of the game. You'll see EA logo everywhere with Westwood Studios given only a small amount of space in the lower right corner. They also weren't given such a freedom in development like they had in Tiberian Sun. EA basically told them what to do and then took all the credit for the work. They really aren't Westwood.. almost none of the people from WW work there anymore
EA (since Westwood is no more) needs to make a "Dune 5" game.
Atreides, Harkonnen, Ordos and maybe be a little more faithful to the books and make House Corrino playable.
@Chrisjh0223 And what is connection?
@MainHeretic Screw Ordos, I think Smugglers will be better as third fraction.
If he does it then I really hope it doesnt end like Dune F2P aka PAY SPICE 2 WIN!
@UberGadriel
Attacking a harvester with infantry is a fail. All the player needs to do is run over the infantry with it...Besides, that's the point of harvester to have heavy armor in the first place..Most of the times good players will drop them to your army positions as a decoy for your units to shoot at while rushing their main force at them making it an easy win.
Masses of combat tanks is a fail too, AT infantry are cheaper and more effective than the tanks.
I dont remember this, must be a different thing.
I'm not sure.
one person missed the like button
I hate how Gunseng is weaker than Copec when they fight for power. I eventually had to go with Copec to see another morning =|
@zyrabqwerty Radiation .... eh...whatever :)
is EA westwood?
@MainHeretic deffinatley but i dont have that much faith in EA. ever since westwood was baught out EA has had a record for producing shit games. thats just my opinion but if they start new like blizzard did with starcraft2 then there might be some hope.
more intense 3D interaction. and possibly an interactive game like starcraft 2 but way better and im totally with u on the house corrino thing. the imperial houses r bad ass.
@Chrisjh0223 Yeah and look what shitty EA did to old C&C, C&C 4 isnt even C&C anymore, you only build units, IT MAKES NO SENSE AND SUCKS> i hate EA they usually wreck games. :(