@@joep2796 LOL... I just wrote the same thing before seeing your comment. Can't unhear it... First time I heard The Who I was on LSD, I had awakenings of sorts but sadly it only lasted a short while. 🙏💞
I like how Paul Hedderman talks about the two Yous. The you that’s being searched for and the one that’s doing the searching. One exposes the other, while paradoxically neither exists.
I'm old enough that whenever I hear, Who Are You?, that song 'Who Are You' by the band The Who automatically begins playing in my head... Lol. And for the longest time I've had no idea what you and others have meant by 'the gap'... I believe I heard you say in this video it's the space between thoughts. Is this correct? Thank you for your exceptional devotion to awakening. 🙏💞🕊️
I only experienced this once. I was sitting on a bench trying to do this exercise and eventually I decided to "zone out" like I used to do in maths class. I noticed how my consciousness was awake with no effort. No pushing. Just floating. It was marvelous. Unfortunately this lasted some 5 minutes before the gears started turning again. And I've lost it since!
Lovely comment, very relatable! *Worth considering:* are you comparing a "peak" experience - a memory (thought) of a specific event, a sensation, an idea about what's "needed", or a specific state - to what your experience NOW "should be" or isn't? Are you looking for that particular experience again since you've "lost" it? Trying to get those some 5 minutes of 0% effort, 100% floating again? What if that's simply not here right now besides as just another thought, another desirable fantasy? The push and pull to "not push and pull anymore"... What if YOU still are here regardless, no matter how much pushing there is or how experience changes? And maybe rather than the 5 minutes - there's only a few microseconds of 30% effort,70% floating? What if those seconds can open up to more once THIS experience is seen for what it is, once it's welcomed, not dismissed for being "lesser" than the remarkable experience that's being sought after through thoughts? Writing this for my own sake too, Comparison can be very tricky. Thankfully we're always right here, so we always have the chance to notice it, then notice what's underneath / beyond it.
It's from the chorus of The Anthem and it actually says., "...there's a crack, a crack in everything, That's how the light gets in." But obviously close enough because a crack does create a gap.
The sense of you/me has never changed since I was born....the cultural conditioning, parents, muddies the ability to be just that who you are.....For me being in the gap with fetters 4 and 5 can be challenging with all the purging of stagnant energy of resistance and then I settle down into the vastness of what I am....at least for a while.
I just had the realization when I looking around I don’t just have to constantly be in memories like I don’t need to react mentally to my environment it’s great 😊
15:09 "I'm using the words to point back to your immediate experience which is more real than those words." More real than ANY words, any descriptions conjured by the mind to try and force experience into a well-defined box. Thank you Angelo!
This really struck me hard because the first moment you said who are you? I sat there and there was nothing. I had no answer. I had no thought and it was really weird. I just sat there in nothingness. How interesting. This is the first time I’ve ever been able to really remove thought.
Thank you, sir. Love ya so much! It’s almost like a game, isn’t it? There’s much fun to be had. I experience the gap, but I’m one who has that endless wall of thought, which revs up after a bit. It’s like an internal commentary on all that’s happening. I notice it, and find it amusing. Back to the gap! 😂
For a few days, I've been feeling more and more what I really am, beyond thoughts, simply consciousness being conscious of every experience, it's like I am purely and simply here to experience this life, but I am not from here. 😦 and I'll always be ok because I always am, I feel untouched by anything that ever happened to this body-mind form.
@@SimplyAlwaysAwakeIf you’re doing that I’d recommend ‘What is the Simplest Approach to Awakening?’ for it, very potent direction not to believe thoughts
yes, who, what, and where are all good; "where" is especially good with "what" because they go right at the assumption; notice that you aren't a perceived sensation and no sensation perceives other sensations
When asking who are you, there are no thoughts. But there is a contraction in my body. It’s as if that contraction prevents thoughts from appearing, I’m guessing like a freeze response? So it’s deceiving because there are literally no thoughts that come up, so I can’t tell if it is this freeze response, or an actual gap. When I put my attention on the contracted body part, it moves to a different part of my body. After five minutes of chasing it around, I got so anxious that it felt like I couldn’t breath unless I controlled my breath. Like I couldn’t let my body breath on its own.
This is wonderful, very vivid description of it. And it may be uncomfortable to experience, but it sounds like a fantastic place to inquire from! If you don't mind me asking, since I've felt similar things before - What do you feel in the rest of the body, if you let the contraction be after the question, but focus on other areas without chasing it? And during the chase, what do you feel is the "relationship" with that contraction? For example, Is it like a "police chase", going after a criminal or adversary? A "play chase", full of lightheartedness and fun? Or is it chasing after a "guide", curiously showing you around and leading you somewhere unexpected? How would you describe the feel of it, the view of it? Is that view sticky, rigid, or flexible and something you can play with too? I get the feeling that we often ignore the "view" we add to the experience, when it can affect it VERY strongly in these subtle places. How was the view even formed, what conclusions or beliefs lead to it? Can the view change? And how does that change the experience, or what DOESN'T change when the view does? What's unchanging? Would love to hear more!
That initial shift, is it something that happens only once and can't be unseen. Having had a shift many years ago, without any knowledge of such things, I have a hard time finding where I sit in this "process".
This morning it hit me in meditation: im nothing more than a bunch of tensions and words. Now, keep on investigating. (Just to see if Angelo is lying in his videos 😂❤)
Priceless 👌 I love this sort of exploration. The gap was so obvious and although I was aware of ‘thoughts’, I didn’t actually have a thought regarding who/what I essentially am. Which is the pure presence/the gap itself! Thanks Angelo 🙏
Thank you. I feel a gap. I have been previously drawn to your explanation of the Mu koan. Am I correct in sensing that the place I find myself when pondering your question "who are you" is where the Mu koan points?
I have listened to this one 5 times now. This direct pointing, especially the second half of the video for folks (like me) who dont see a "gap" has been really valuable. After sitting with the "find the you that does not change with thought" , I see why I did not (and still dont ) see a "gap" , its because I have formed a concept on what a "gap" is and I am seeking it. Just dropping that notion of having to find a gap as a "success" criteria (which you also called out) has helped a lot. Yes you are right that its ok to not see the gap and something in the way this message was delivered in this video makes me not feel frustrated that I dont see the gap , yet there is a mystery to it. I dont have words to describe anymore. Just wanted to share what helped and wanted to say thanks!
Hey, question: what about feelings? I've been taught to carry an elevated emotion such as love through out my life... I can still notice the mind's activity comes and goes while I'm experiencing "carrying" this emotion, but I think it is counter-productive towards total mind freedom. But at the same time, if I'm just always empty, people are literally repelled from me. What do you think?
I know a gap. I know myself as the no gap. I can recognize myself. But until you said that was the realization the first main shift. It didn’t seem like to much. And I got caught up in the next thought. How to stay there. Eventually do we stay there forever?
Does Consciousness require Ownership? None is found. Nor a Dream Character stating, “I AM.” But One saying, “I AM NOT.” Consciousness displaying the Universe, without a verifiable Being. JUST THIS happening spontaneously to No One. Allow the Mind to accept JUST THIS without changing, resisting, or labeling. Only Consciousness remains Constant. Forms, Shapes, Colors, Thoughts, Sounds are all just modifications in Consciousness.
I have done ZERO of your work---but I already know that it's gonna be the most nuts thing I've ever experienced × 1 Billion....I've been watching Angelo for 2 to 3 years and when I'm ready - I know I'm gonna have a SHIT TON OF GRIEF. ..I was totally NOT PRESENT during most of my daughters life due to addiction to opioid pain pills.....and due to my fucked up childhood I have very deep seeded beliefs that say " I'm DEFINITELY not good enough , at ANYTHING pretty much.....soooooo I'm stoked that when " grief monster " comes I will know deep in soul that I CAN GET THRU IT & THAT I CAN FINALLY FUCKING FIND FREEDOM ---- there's always been a little part of me that knew I was good enough !! That's why I'm sitting here in my shit , typing this!! I'm done dude , I'm in that spot where I've got nowhere else to go....3 years of listening and I think I'm finally ready
Presence is noticable, though subtle. It's not something dramatic; it's not gonna hit you over the head like a 2 x 4 with some kind weird sensation or anything. In my current experience, Presence is subtle though noticable when thoughts and emotions aren't too stirred up. Presence is like an energetically neutral sense of well being. It never changes; it's always the same, always there. It is always calm and peaceful. Presence is also called consciousness. Consciousness is Being; Beingness, existence, the "I Am". If you can notice Presence, just notice it. Don't try to do anything with it. You can't, anyway, so just notice it, observe it. It's actually what 'we' are (though there is no 'we').
@@morbb5691 i appreciate your answer but i asked what is the nature of it? I can rest in presence, I've been doing it for quite some time now but he implies there is something beyond that. That's what I don't understand.
The second time, when you mentioned a gap, I kind of 'forced' the gap intentionally - I wonder if that is a common thing and what it shows (a habit of force stopping thought when meditating?)
I don't notice much of a gap, but I don't really notice an answer either. My attention doesn't go anywhere in particular. The question doesn't really land anywhere. Does it even make sense? What is "who"? What is "I"? There's just this experience. There is the thought/feeling of being a me that is the thinker/senser/controller, but I don't find anything if I look for it. There doesn't seem to be anything to find, no special direction I could possibly look. Yet it continues the way it always has, with no conclusive finding, maybe just more skepticism.
The first time the question was asked I thought my name and that I play guitar. Second time there was an instant gap, a Huge gap and it lasted the entire duration of silence. I've been meditating for years but only been focusing on awakening for a week or so. Listening mainly to Angelo. Up till now it's been frustrating and hard to latch onto anything as a continuing path forward. But today something shifted. Finally- a taste of separation from thinker ..my next meditation will be very interesting.. Thank You so much for this Angelo. I love your work!🙏
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake I reckon I will. Something broke away in an ego sense.. and had me realising there's been a separation/gap there forever but its me thats been standing there with a trowel plastering this gap with thoughts, analysis, comparison, criticism.. Long way to go still but this is my first real nugget on the path to awakening. Doesn't feel as far away or ungraspable as has before. Im in my mid 50s and read my first book on meditation by Lobsang Rampa at 9yo and have been interested in this area ever since then. Just never stumbled upon anything that explains it like you do.
"Who Let the Dogs Out" is a powerful song for inquiry...
Brilliant 🤩
I immediately hear "Who Are You?", the song by the band The Who. Makes this question unworkable for me so far.
@@joep2796 LOL... I just wrote the same thing before seeing your comment. Can't unhear it... First time I heard The Who I was on LSD, I had awakenings of sorts but sadly it only lasted a short while. 🙏💞
fun fact nobody knows where that song originally comes from and it has many verisons
I immediately thought about the song by Black Sabbath ('Who are You')
I like how Paul Hedderman talks about the two Yous. The you that’s being searched for and the one that’s doing the searching. One exposes the other, while paradoxically neither exists.
😂😂 love Paul H
I'm old enough that whenever I hear, Who Are You?, that song 'Who Are You' by the band The Who automatically begins playing in my head... Lol.
And for the longest time I've had no idea what you and others have meant by 'the gap'... I believe I heard you say in this video it's the space between thoughts. Is this correct?
Thank you for your exceptional devotion to awakening. 🙏💞🕊️
Who, who, who the fuck are you?? (The album version ;)
I only experienced this once. I was sitting on a bench trying to do this exercise and eventually I decided to "zone out" like I used to do in maths class. I noticed how my consciousness was awake with no effort. No pushing. Just floating. It was marvelous.
Unfortunately this lasted some 5 minutes before the gears started turning again. And I've lost it since!
Lovely comment, very relatable!
*Worth considering:* are you comparing a "peak" experience - a memory (thought) of a specific event, a sensation, an idea about what's "needed", or a specific state - to what your experience NOW "should be" or isn't?
Are you looking for that particular experience again since you've "lost" it? Trying to get those some 5 minutes of 0% effort, 100% floating again?
What if that's simply not here right now besides as just another thought, another desirable fantasy? The push and pull to "not push and pull anymore"...
What if YOU still are here regardless, no matter how much pushing there is or how experience changes?
And maybe rather than the 5 minutes - there's only a few microseconds of 30% effort,70% floating? What if those seconds can open up to more once THIS experience is seen for what it is, once it's welcomed, not dismissed for being "lesser" than the remarkable experience that's being sought after through thoughts?
Writing this for my own sake too, Comparison can be very tricky. Thankfully we're always right here, so we always have the chance to notice it, then notice what's underneath / beyond it.
as Cohen said, There is a gap in everything, that's how the Light gets in.
It's from the chorus of The Anthem and it actually says., "...there's a crack, a crack in everything, That's how the light gets in."
But obviously close enough because a crack does create a gap.
The sense of you/me has never changed since I was born....the cultural conditioning, parents, muddies the ability to be just that who you are.....For me being in the gap with fetters 4 and 5 can be challenging with all the purging of stagnant energy of resistance and then I settle down into the vastness of what I am....at least for a while.
I like the question: "Who am I, at zero distance" (and then going there to look).
I just had the realization when I looking around I don’t just have to constantly be in memories like I don’t need to react mentally to my environment it’s great 😊
Is it just me or are you really on a roll atm
🧈🥐
Yep been working with reactivity especially pausing and feeling into the senses. Waiting... Watching.
I’m the sensation of a scrunched face.
15:09
"I'm using the words to point back to your immediate experience which is more real than those words."
More real than ANY words, any descriptions conjured by the mind to try and force experience into a well-defined box.
Thank you Angelo!
no way to explain❣️☺️
This really struck me hard because the first moment you said who are you? I sat there and there was nothing. I had no answer. I had no thought and it was really weird. I just sat there in nothingness. How interesting. This is the first time I’ve ever been able to really remove thought.
Thank you, sir. Love ya so much! It’s almost like a game, isn’t it? There’s much fun to be had. I experience the gap, but I’m one who has that endless wall of thought, which revs up after a bit. It’s like an internal commentary on all that’s happening. I notice it, and find it amusing. Back to the gap! 😂
I am... .
Thank you, good video.
For a few days, I've been feeling more and more what I really am, beyond thoughts, simply consciousness being conscious of every experience, it's like I am purely and simply here to experience this life, but I am not from here. 😦 and I'll always be ok because I always am, I feel untouched by anything that ever happened to this body-mind form.
Thank you!!!
This and the one titled What is your primary experience? Are two of the most simply potent pointers given. Thank you for all your wonderful content.
I just started a greatest hits playlist for those videos people tell me they get a lot of benefit out of, and put those in
@@SimplyAlwaysAwakeIf you’re doing that I’d recommend ‘What is the Simplest Approach to Awakening?’ for it, very potent direction not to believe thoughts
There is a just a gap and a curiosity. 🙂
Simply alway appreciative, thanks.
I don't even know if who is the right word. I'm wondering WHAT I am. What is this sense of I exactly? I'm stumped.
It feels more like a what to me, too ❤
yes, who, what, and where are all good; "where" is especially good with "what" because they go right at the assumption; notice that you aren't a perceived sensation and no sensation perceives other sensations
When asking who are you, there are no thoughts. But there is a contraction in my body. It’s as if that contraction prevents thoughts from appearing, I’m guessing like a freeze response? So it’s deceiving because there are literally no thoughts that come up, so I can’t tell if it is this freeze response, or an actual gap.
When I put my attention on the contracted body part, it moves to a different part of my body. After five minutes of chasing it around, I got so anxious that it felt like I couldn’t breath unless I controlled my breath. Like I couldn’t let my body breath on its own.
This is wonderful, very vivid description of it. And it may be uncomfortable to experience, but it sounds like a fantastic place to inquire from!
If you don't mind me asking, since I've felt similar things before - What do you feel in the rest of the body, if you let the contraction be after the question, but focus on other areas without chasing it?
And during the chase, what do you feel is the "relationship" with that contraction?
For example, Is it like a "police chase", going after a criminal or adversary? A "play chase", full of lightheartedness and fun? Or is it chasing after a "guide", curiously showing you around and leading you somewhere unexpected?
How would you describe the feel of it, the view of it? Is that view sticky, rigid, or flexible and something you can play with too?
I get the feeling that we often ignore the "view" we add to the experience, when it can affect it VERY strongly in these subtle places. How was the view even formed, what conclusions or beliefs lead to it? Can the view change? And how does that change the experience, or what DOESN'T change when the view does? What's unchanging?
Would love to hear more!
That initial shift, is it something that happens only once and can't be unseen. Having had a shift many years ago, without any knowledge of such things, I have a hard time finding where I sit in this "process".
This morning it hit me in meditation: im nothing more than a bunch of tensions and words. Now, keep on investigating. (Just to see if Angelo is lying in his videos 😂❤)
Priceless 👌
I love this sort of exploration. The gap was so obvious and although I was aware of ‘thoughts’, I didn’t actually have a thought regarding who/what I essentially am. Which is the pure presence/the gap itself!
Thanks Angelo 🙏
I’m this scrunched face that’s happening now
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@@lordhorrorshowhow do you know and why’s it matter? 😂
Who am i ? ..........
If i'm experiencing the gap,
then that's enough.
....Nice one
Ahhhhhh so helpful❤❤❤❤
Thank you. I feel a gap. I have been previously drawn to your explanation of the Mu koan. Am I correct in sensing that the place I find myself when pondering your question "who are you" is where the Mu koan points?
Yes, correct
Thank you! 🙏 💕
Welcome!
I have listened to this one 5 times now. This direct pointing, especially the second half of the video for folks (like me) who dont see a "gap" has been really valuable. After sitting with the "find the you that does not change with thought" , I see why I did not (and still dont ) see a "gap" , its because I have formed a concept on what a "gap" is and I am seeking it. Just dropping that notion of having to find a gap as a "success" criteria (which you also called out) has helped a lot. Yes you are right that its ok to not see the gap and something in the way this message was delivered in this video makes me not feel frustrated that I dont see the gap , yet there is a mystery to it. I dont have words to describe anymore. Just wanted to share what helped and wanted to say thanks!
I AM THE SENATE
This video is like non-duality edging
Hey, question: what about feelings? I've been taught to carry an elevated emotion such as love through out my life...
I can still notice the mind's activity comes and goes while I'm experiencing "carrying" this emotion, but I think it is counter-productive towards total mind freedom. But at the same time, if I'm just always empty, people are literally repelled from me.
What do you think?
What is with the “Hoist the Colour” by Miltilda in the Mind Identification Playlist!?!??! I was deep in the list and all the sudden, wait, wtf??? 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake so good man. Love your humor. Caused a reset in my empty focus 🧘♂️
“I know that world. I used to live in it.”
The Who is not a Who.
Timing the gap? It’s always here and it’s not within time. ⚫️
I know a gap. I know myself as the no gap. I can recognize myself. But until you said that was the realization the first main shift. It didn’t seem like to much. And I got caught up in the next thought. How to stay there. Eventually do we stay there forever?
Does Consciousness require Ownership? None is found.
Nor a Dream Character stating, “I AM.” But One saying, “I AM NOT.”
Consciousness displaying the Universe, without a verifiable Being.
JUST THIS happening spontaneously to No One. Allow the Mind to accept JUST THIS without changing, resisting, or labeling.
Only Consciousness remains Constant. Forms, Shapes, Colors, Thoughts, Sounds are all just modifications in Consciousness.
I have done ZERO of your work---but I already know that it's gonna be the most nuts thing I've ever experienced × 1 Billion....I've been watching Angelo for 2 to 3 years and when I'm ready - I know I'm gonna have a SHIT TON OF GRIEF.
..I was totally NOT PRESENT during most of my daughters life due to addiction to opioid pain pills.....and due to my fucked up childhood I have very deep seeded beliefs that say " I'm DEFINITELY not good enough , at ANYTHING pretty much.....soooooo I'm stoked that when " grief monster " comes I will know deep in soul that I CAN GET THRU IT & THAT I CAN FINALLY FUCKING FIND FREEDOM ---- there's always been a little part of me that knew I was good enough !! That's why I'm sitting here in my shit , typing this!! I'm done dude , I'm in that spot where I've got nowhere else to go....3 years of listening and I think I'm finally ready
What's the nature of presence?
Presence is noticable, though subtle. It's not something dramatic; it's not gonna hit you over the head like a 2 x 4 with some kind weird sensation or anything. In my current experience, Presence is subtle though noticable when thoughts and emotions aren't too stirred up. Presence is like an energetically neutral sense of well being. It never changes; it's always the same, always there. It is always calm and peaceful. Presence is also called consciousness. Consciousness is Being; Beingness, existence, the "I Am". If you can notice Presence, just notice it. Don't try to do anything with it. You can't, anyway, so just notice it, observe it. It's actually what 'we' are (though there is no 'we').
@@morbb5691 i appreciate your answer but i asked what is the nature of it? I can rest in presence, I've been doing it for quite some time now but he implies there is something beyond that. That's what I don't understand.
🙏🙏🙏
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Angelo I experience this viod. I want to know if is it necessary to ask the question with out loud?
The second time, when you mentioned a gap, I kind of 'forced' the gap intentionally - I wonder if that is a common thing and what it shows (a habit of force stopping thought when meditating?)
Some other interesting question is: where are you?
Lol and an I don't know lol
I don't notice much of a gap, but I don't really notice an answer either. My attention doesn't go anywhere in particular. The question doesn't really land anywhere. Does it even make sense? What is "who"? What is "I"? There's just this experience. There is the thought/feeling of being a me that is the thinker/senser/controller, but I don't find anything if I look for it. There doesn't seem to be anything to find, no special direction I could possibly look. Yet it continues the way it always has, with no conclusive finding, maybe just more skepticism.
There’s more of a gap there than you realize. Good inquiry!
The first time the question was asked I thought my name and that I play guitar. Second time there was an instant gap, a Huge gap and it lasted the entire duration of silence.
I've been meditating for years but only been focusing on awakening for a week or so. Listening mainly to Angelo.
Up till now it's been frustrating and hard to latch onto anything as a continuing path forward.
But today something shifted. Finally- a taste of separation from thinker ..my next meditation will be very interesting..
Thank You so much for this Angelo. I love your work!🙏
@@vilnis9506 Great work! Enjoy the unbinding
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake I reckon I will. Something broke away in an ego sense.. and had me realising there's been a separation/gap there forever but its me thats been standing there with a trowel plastering this gap with thoughts, analysis, comparison, criticism..
Long way to go still but this is my first real nugget on the path to awakening. Doesn't feel as far away or ungraspable as has before. Im in my mid 50s and read my first book on meditation by Lobsang Rampa at 9yo and have been interested in this area ever since then. Just never stumbled upon anything that explains it like you do.
Is this the same as hua t’ou practice?
Hey 👋, where do all the bad rainbows go??????
To prism 🌈 😂🎉❤
😂😂😂
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake 🌈💕☀️
There’s a gap!
If when I ask the question my mind goes blank what does that mean?
don't worry about meaning, that would just be the next thought, rather stay...