New York's Lost Ash Dump

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    New York's Forgotten Corona Ash Dump, also known as the Corona Ash Dump or simply the Corona Dump, was once a significant site in the city's waste management history. Located in Queens, it operated from the late 19th century to the mid-20th century, serving as a dumping ground for coal ash and other industrial waste. The site was crucial in managing the city's burgeoning waste output during the industrial era. However, as environmental awareness grew and regulations tightened, the dump fell into disuse and was eventually closed. Today, it is a forgotten relic of New York City's industrial past, reclaimed by nature and largely unknown to many of its residents.
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  • @ITSHISTORY
    @ITSHISTORY  Месяц назад +8

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  • @christinecollins6648
    @christinecollins6648 Месяц назад +17

    Glad you mentioned F. Scott F.’s Great Gatsby. My dad recalled the Ashland’s, describing them poeticly. Hindu Lord Shiva is often described as dwelling in ash heaps

  • @RealCadde
    @RealCadde Месяц назад +7

    As long as it's just pure ash, not mixed with toxic chemicals and/or heavy metals, it would be beneficial to keep it around under ground.
    The same way a forest fire isn't the end of the forest, it's a thriving new beginning as the ash works as a fertilizer for new growth.
    Sure, it takes (in human lifespan scale) a long time for a forest to regrow, but a forest that hasn't seen fire in a long long time is more than likely very sick and slowly dying from lack of nutrients in the ground.
    Also, after a forest fire has raged, all lakes that have had ash fallen into them become crystal clear and smothering bacteria and algae like plants will be severely diminished, allowing for a much higher diversity in plant life in the water.
    Ash binds small particulates in the water and makes it sink to the bottom.

  • @DeanStephen
    @DeanStephen Месяц назад +7

    I remember my grandparents, who lived in an old coal mining town, calling such metal containers “ash cans.” I never gave this much thought as a child because garbage cans (all of them metal at the time) and garbage collection was kind of a new thing, or at least for us since we still had a concrete incinerator and burned our trash every few days. Thanks for the too long delayed clarification.

  • @limomangeno
    @limomangeno Месяц назад +29

    I remember the supers of the apartment building taking out trash cans filled with furnaces ashes...This was in Queens. Great Stories,I remember my grandfather telling the stories about Flushing meadows past.

    • @gy2gy246
      @gy2gy246 Месяц назад

      I grew up in the Bronx, and the boiler ran on coal.

    • @LongIslandMopars
      @LongIslandMopars 20 дней назад

      Our Queens house was modern. Built in 1939, it was heated with fuel oil. 😎

  • @papabash
    @papabash Месяц назад +3

    I worked for the NYC schools as a tradesman from 1989-2015. In the early 90s the city schools still burned coal for heat and hot water. By the late 90s into the 2000s mostly all city schools were converted to oil and gas. Prior to the conversion each school had firemen that would shovel and monitor the coal fired boilers on a day and night basis. I remember seeing the loads of coal being delivered and stored in coal bunkers and the spent ash being disposed of in those heavy duty ash cans. Great story on the history of Corona park thanks for sharing.

    • @LongIslandMopars
      @LongIslandMopars 20 дней назад +1

      My childhood friend got a job in the school system as an assistant to a superintendent. I remember going with him to a school that still had coal boilers. They were huge. So cool.

  • @kfcroc18
    @kfcroc18 Месяц назад +48

    Is this why trashcans are also called ashcans?

    • @christinecollins6648
      @christinecollins6648 Месяц назад +8

      Sounds right!

    • @daewooparts
      @daewooparts Месяц назад +5

      Ashcans are also known as large powerful firecrackers 🧨 💥 aka M80's & Blockbusters

    • @kenjohnson8510
      @kenjohnson8510 Месяц назад +11

      Yes. Growing up in Minneapolis in the '50's, EVERY house had a trashcan (a.k.a. 'burn barrel's) out back where we dumped daily house trash, grass clippings, and other burnable stuff and then burned it all on Saturdays.

    • @daewooparts
      @daewooparts Месяц назад

      @@kenjohnson8510, I still use a good old burn barrel 🛢 🔥 😉

    • @deathgun3110
      @deathgun3110 Месяц назад +3

      You can't pronounce trashcan without saying ashcan, so mayby it's just people being lazy and smart.

  • @SithLordmatthew
    @SithLordmatthew Месяц назад +5

    I have a much smaller one of these ash dumps in my town. Bout 16 acres and and river front property because of course they picked that. Today its capped and in heavy use today. They lease the land to a organic recycling company so it typically has 30000 yards of mulch and wood chips 30-50000 yards of leaves and grassed composting into top soil and they have a lot of top soil. As a landscaper I go there often the place is still a hell on earth but necessary.

  • @timsimmons5190
    @timsimmons5190 Месяц назад +7

    We also now use ash to make certain type cement and asphalt

  • @midiwall
    @midiwall Месяц назад +2

    @7:20 - that may have been the smoothest transition to date, across all the folks I follow. You added a data point to the story in order to blend into the sponsor. Nicely done sir!

  • @daewooparts
    @daewooparts Месяц назад +5

    11:09 ,went from Flowing water 💧to basically Flushing the toilet 🚽& a dump 💩

  • @daewooparts
    @daewooparts Месяц назад +5

    The Fresh Kills Landfall in Staten Island is also in the process of becoming a giant park today ,going from the world's largest Landfill to one of the largest parks in NYC, it once was a prestine salt water marsh with one of the best & most productive clamming spots on the east coast, it was technically a illegal dump as the City of New York failed to get the legal permission to do so originally

    • @user-dj7wv5ok2x
      @user-dj7wv5ok2x Месяц назад

      However, due to its geological instability, nothing of significance can be constructed there.

  • @gy2gy246
    @gy2gy246 Месяц назад +1

    The building where I grew up in NYC had a coal boiler, and I remember the ash cans. Also the school where I taught in the '60's to '70's ran on coal. The building was 100 years old.

  • @andrewfischer8564
    @andrewfischer8564 Месяц назад +4

    hello from the ash dump i mean flushing nyc. where im watching this. its great to learn about where you live. thanks

  • @funken079
    @funken079 21 день назад

    Another great and interesting story Ryan. Thanks

  • @towgod7985
    @towgod7985 Месяц назад +4

    Interesting video, here in Toronto, We still used incinerators up until I think 1987!

  • @johnwayne9885
    @johnwayne9885 Месяц назад +4

    Putting the ash aside, The still photo at 15:54 is the Long Island RR to the left is the Whitestone branch and further down to the right is the Flushing Central RR both long gone. The center track is still in use today. work around that park for years and lots of story's of interest in that area😊

  • @mjphyil
    @mjphyil Месяц назад +2

    A fascinating story, thank you!

  • @hebneh
    @hebneh Месяц назад +1

    My father was born in 1917 and he sometimes used the terms "ash heap" and "ash can" in conversation, even though neither was something that was still in existence during my lifetime.

    • @gy2gy246
      @gy2gy246 Месяц назад +1

      It's a retronym, a word indicating a lost technology. Like saying "I'll dial you" when phones no longer have dials.

  • @njunderground82
    @njunderground82 Месяц назад

    I still remember reading the description of the dump in Gatsby. It stayed with me. I've visited the park a few times over the years since, and its so hard to believe its the same place.

  • @Guspech750
    @Guspech750 25 дней назад

    Another great video in the books🤟

  • @zackatwood2867
    @zackatwood2867 Месяц назад +2

    Great content, very informative

  • @user-fj9be5fe3p
    @user-fj9be5fe3p Месяц назад +3

    Many apartment buildings had in house incinerators.

  • @MatthewCaban
    @MatthewCaban Месяц назад +1

    Gives some great context to "the valley of ashes between West Egg and Manhattan" referenced in the Great Gatsby

  • @watchmanneil52776
    @watchmanneil52776 Месяц назад +2

    Will Cnty IL had a humongous ash pile near Plainfield mysteriously disappear also!🤔

  • @russellhltn1396
    @russellhltn1396 Месяц назад +2

    So, with the closure of the dump, what did NY do? Did NY change from coal to oil? Even so, what did they do with their waste?

  • @kevin-zt4ix
    @kevin-zt4ix Месяц назад

    I grew up in this area flushing Medow's park & connecting willow lake park were our stomping grounds back in the late 60's & 70's Park drive east area.

  • @ramblerguy
    @ramblerguy Месяц назад

    Great! Thanks

  • @timothyokane9710
    @timothyokane9710 Месяц назад +3

    I don't remember anyone doing a story on the once Smoky and Smoldering New Jersey Meadowlands! Of which New Yorkers complained about for decades.

    • @Chips2323
      @Chips2323 Месяц назад

      I think someone famous (ashes) was spread across one of the end zone, I think his first name was Al (not ai) LOL...

  • @josephsager9425
    @josephsager9425 Месяц назад +1

    You're so cute. I'm glad you show more of yourself in these videos.

  • @DaleDix
    @DaleDix Месяц назад +1

    NYC was infinitely cleaner then than it is today.

  • @mattpaulson3652
    @mattpaulson3652 Месяц назад +2

    U should do a video on the old PPG Lime Lakes in Barberton Ohio

  • @AsaTrenchard1865
    @AsaTrenchard1865 Месяц назад

    At last I know why back in 1960s Detroit the old folks called garbage cans 'ash cans'. Thanks 👍

  • @gy2gy246
    @gy2gy246 Месяц назад

    The picture at 11:00 is of the 1964 World's Fair, not the 1939.

  • @josephwarra5043
    @josephwarra5043 Месяц назад

    To say nothing about the GIANT Crocagators that used to hide in tunnels they dug in the ash heaps and the dozens and dozens of ppl who "disappeared" over the years in and around that dump.

  • @steves1749
    @steves1749 Месяц назад +1

    I confused. I thought ash after burning did not pose any bacterial or food for rats. No if you’re referring to raw garbage, that’s different.

  • @GregHart-rs4hm
    @GregHart-rs4hm 15 дней назад

    the latest "Great Gatsby" movie protrayed the ash dump pretty well I thought.

  • @stellamcwick8455
    @stellamcwick8455 Месяц назад +1

    3:24 , what is up with that car on the right? Is it getting towed?

  • @garyallowayjralloway2126
    @garyallowayjralloway2126 28 дней назад +1

    You said back then they didn't relocate landfills they don't do it today either 😂😂😂😂

  • @davenz000
    @davenz000 Месяц назад

    There's plenty of documentation about the site and the reclamation / cleanup. "Flushing Meadows - Corona Park Studio Report". Drainage installed, topsoil "created" from bay mud.

  • @dennisc6716
    @dennisc6716 Месяц назад +1

    These kinds of dumps are nothing but huge ash holes.

  • @spencer5438
    @spencer5438 Месяц назад

    Great Gatsby had us knowing bout this since 5th grade

  • @user-dj7wv5ok2x
    @user-dj7wv5ok2x Месяц назад

    Maybe the next video can feature other ash monofills that have become great places: the Brooklyn Botanical Gardens and JFK airport are two good examples.

  • @ItsEverythingElse
    @ItsEverythingElse Месяц назад +1

    Now the location of Arthur Ashe Stadium.

  • @glenlongstreet7
    @glenlongstreet7 Месяц назад +3

    Why do we say, 'can fill up x many Olympic swimming pools?' How many people earth wide have seen an Olympic swimming pool? Wouldn't it be more relevant to say, 'can fill up x many 40 foot containers?' Everybody on the planet has seen a 40 foot container. Just to think about.

  • @debanam
    @debanam Месяц назад +2

    My plastic robocans say 'no hot ashes" on them.

    • @fuzzjunky
      @fuzzjunky Месяц назад +2

      that's pretty standard around the world though. ashes put an end to many plastic bins until we worked it out.

  • @walterspringer565
    @walterspringer565 22 дня назад +1

    Where do you think the term "Cinder Block" comes from?

  • @williamschlenger1518
    @williamschlenger1518 Месяц назад

    We had coal heat when I was a kid.Everyone had a driveway made of ashes

  • @dcallan812
    @dcallan812 Месяц назад

    beauty comes from ugly. great video 2x👍

  • @1867Phoenix
    @1867Phoenix Месяц назад +3

    R.I.P. Myrtle Wilson
    🎵Love is blindness
    I don't wanna see
    Won't you wrap the night
    Around me?
    Oh my heart
    Love is blindness
    In a parked car
    In a crowded street
    You see your love
    Made complete
    Thread is ripping
    The knot is slipping
    Love is blindness🎶

  • @joecummings1260
    @joecummings1260 Месяц назад +1

    NYC burned anthracite coal. Anthracite when burned does not give off particulates

    • @user-dj7wv5ok2x
      @user-dj7wv5ok2x Месяц назад +2

      Depending on how WELL you burn it; anthracite has a much higher ignition temperature than bituminous, and needs a good, strong WOOD FIRE to get the initial coal burning. Proper air supply, such as underfire and override air, plus draft control, will produce no visible smoke.

  • @jetsons101
    @jetsons101 Месяц назад +2

    Hmmmmm I wonder is anything "nasty" leaches up during heavy rains ???

  • @Paulie1232
    @Paulie1232 Месяц назад +1

    There is more than ash buried there..😊

  • @robertvogel9849
    @robertvogel9849 Месяц назад

    And here I thought Linus Sebastian was the king of the segways to sponsors lol

  • @Breytremore
    @Breytremore Месяц назад

    Ryan consistently has the best segues on RUclips

  • @RobSchellinger
    @RobSchellinger Месяц назад +4

    Wait, wait, wait. You mentioned human remains and just keep going? We're not going to circle back to wth that meant?

    • @1puppetbike
      @1puppetbike Месяц назад +2

      It means dead people were sometimes burnt and tossed with the garbage. 😮

    • @darryljorden9177
      @darryljorden9177 Месяц назад +2

      "Bring out yer dead!" .

    • @RobSchellinger
      @RobSchellinger Месяц назад

      @@1puppetbike Out of convenience or cover up?

  • @withershin
    @withershin 24 дня назад

    Ahhh... the Mets play on an Ash Dump. Makes sense.

  • @EVIL_THOUGHTS
    @EVIL_THOUGHTS Месяц назад +2

    *Industries might have a polution problem, but don't forget that industry produces for the people...If people were producing their needs on their own, the polution would be even worst !*

  • @jiioannidis7215
    @jiioannidis7215 Месяц назад +1

    "Turn of the century" no longer means what you think it means :)

  • @philiphorner31
    @philiphorner31 28 дней назад

    It could be cubed and dumped in the deep ocean.

  • @chrisdaniels4674
    @chrisdaniels4674 27 дней назад

    What’s up with the fake photo at 3:30

  • @steves1749
    @steves1749 Месяц назад

    Something doesn’t jive, wasn’t the 1939 Worlds Fair also in Flushing Corona

    • @darryljorden9177
      @darryljorden9177 Месяц назад

      The 1939 and 1964 fairs were both held at the same location.

  • @lowkilowki7808
    @lowkilowki7808 Месяц назад +2

    Ash as a problem. But then you had asbestos?

    • @avman2cl
      @avman2cl Месяц назад

      Sounds like the ash problem was cleaned up but asbestos still plagues our society and will for a long time. It was literally in everything

  • @user-id1ed7ej5w
    @user-id1ed7ej5w Месяц назад +4

    He called f Scott Fitzgerald Francis Scott key

    • @RoS_98
      @RoS_98 Месяц назад

      The author's full name is Francis Scott Key Fitzgerald.

  • @michaelplunkett8059
    @michaelplunkett8059 Месяц назад

    Flushing Park and 2 World's Fairs. Thank you Robert Moses.

  • @edmctug8800
    @edmctug8800 12 дней назад

    Getting your ahes hauled, more than one meaning gentalmen !

  • @gj1234567899999
    @gj1234567899999 Месяц назад +1

    Couldn’t lots of rare earth metals be within the ash? Currently China is the world leader in rare earth metals since they harvest at lot from coal ash.

  • @dennisdriscoll7830
    @dennisdriscoll7830 Месяц назад

    Now it's home to the Mets!

  • @mzpatintexas8329
    @mzpatintexas8329 28 дней назад

    And if there is a one in a life time massive rain and flooding....
    That packed down ash will be washed away.
    Outcome,...a total nightmare.

  • @Kafj302
    @Kafj302 Месяц назад

    I am like number 847

  • @hooXpoo
    @hooXpoo 29 дней назад

    In that time there was plenty of jobs.

  • @Yeolita
    @Yeolita Месяц назад

    Wow, thanks, never knew of this but know such things were not rare back then. How horrific we are to ourselves and to the land/environment!! Can't imagine what humungous heaps the current population would have accumulated. OR maybe too many would have had respiratory problems and could not live or live with it. Simply NOT sustainable!

  • @bp8652
    @bp8652 24 дня назад

    2:20. Society is so messed up we have to blur a drawing of cavewoman boobs.

  • @anonymousperson8487
    @anonymousperson8487 Месяц назад +2

    New York is the dump

    • @user-dj7wv5ok2x
      @user-dj7wv5ok2x Месяц назад

      And where YOU live is supposed to be better?!

  • @TheRiskyBrothers
    @TheRiskyBrothers Месяц назад +10

    Remember kids, it's not a war on coal, it's coal's war on life.

    • @AdmiralJT
      @AdmiralJT Месяц назад +3

      Yeah instead of improving scrubbing and disposal while innovating ways to be more green its totally better to completely be out of a job and not use a natural resource that is cheap and abundant.

    • @user-dj7wv5ok2x
      @user-dj7wv5ok2x Месяц назад

      There IS such a thing as the Karrick Low Temperature Carbonization process, where a gas richer than natural gas, as well as gasoline, fuel oils, and even a smokeless char can be produced. Google it!

  • @leightongalleries6057
    @leightongalleries6057 Месяц назад +2

    Drawn out and too long. Great subject, but way too long. Why so long?

  • @lisatirkot7210
    @lisatirkot7210 Месяц назад

    Watch the movie my man Godfrey, William Powell it literally opens making references to ash piles , then later repurposed ash piles