New York's Lost Ash Dump
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New York's Forgotten Corona Ash Dump, also known as the Corona Ash Dump or simply the Corona Dump, was once a significant site in the city's waste management history. Located in Queens, it operated from the late 19th century to the mid-20th century, serving as a dumping ground for coal ash and other industrial waste. The site was crucial in managing the city's burgeoning waste output during the industrial era. However, as environmental awareness grew and regulations tightened, the dump fell into disuse and was eventually closed. Today, it is a forgotten relic of New York City's industrial past, reclaimed by nature and largely unknown to many of its residents.
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Glad you mentioned F. Scott F.’s Great Gatsby. My dad recalled the Ashland’s, describing them poeticly. Hindu Lord Shiva is often described as dwelling in ash heaps
As long as it's just pure ash, not mixed with toxic chemicals and/or heavy metals, it would be beneficial to keep it around under ground.
The same way a forest fire isn't the end of the forest, it's a thriving new beginning as the ash works as a fertilizer for new growth.
Sure, it takes (in human lifespan scale) a long time for a forest to regrow, but a forest that hasn't seen fire in a long long time is more than likely very sick and slowly dying from lack of nutrients in the ground.
Also, after a forest fire has raged, all lakes that have had ash fallen into them become crystal clear and smothering bacteria and algae like plants will be severely diminished, allowing for a much higher diversity in plant life in the water.
Ash binds small particulates in the water and makes it sink to the bottom.
I remember my grandparents, who lived in an old coal mining town, calling such metal containers “ash cans.” I never gave this much thought as a child because garbage cans (all of them metal at the time) and garbage collection was kind of a new thing, or at least for us since we still had a concrete incinerator and burned our trash every few days. Thanks for the too long delayed clarification.
I remember the supers of the apartment building taking out trash cans filled with furnaces ashes...This was in Queens. Great Stories,I remember my grandfather telling the stories about Flushing meadows past.
I grew up in the Bronx, and the boiler ran on coal.
Our Queens house was modern. Built in 1939, it was heated with fuel oil. 😎
I worked for the NYC schools as a tradesman from 1989-2015. In the early 90s the city schools still burned coal for heat and hot water. By the late 90s into the 2000s mostly all city schools were converted to oil and gas. Prior to the conversion each school had firemen that would shovel and monitor the coal fired boilers on a day and night basis. I remember seeing the loads of coal being delivered and stored in coal bunkers and the spent ash being disposed of in those heavy duty ash cans. Great story on the history of Corona park thanks for sharing.
My childhood friend got a job in the school system as an assistant to a superintendent. I remember going with him to a school that still had coal boilers. They were huge. So cool.
Is this why trashcans are also called ashcans?
Sounds right!
Ashcans are also known as large powerful firecrackers 🧨 💥 aka M80's & Blockbusters
Yes. Growing up in Minneapolis in the '50's, EVERY house had a trashcan (a.k.a. 'burn barrel's) out back where we dumped daily house trash, grass clippings, and other burnable stuff and then burned it all on Saturdays.
@@kenjohnson8510, I still use a good old burn barrel 🛢 🔥 😉
You can't pronounce trashcan without saying ashcan, so mayby it's just people being lazy and smart.
I have a much smaller one of these ash dumps in my town. Bout 16 acres and and river front property because of course they picked that. Today its capped and in heavy use today. They lease the land to a organic recycling company so it typically has 30000 yards of mulch and wood chips 30-50000 yards of leaves and grassed composting into top soil and they have a lot of top soil. As a landscaper I go there often the place is still a hell on earth but necessary.
We also now use ash to make certain type cement and asphalt
So then it would be...ash-phalt.😏😎
@7:20 - that may have been the smoothest transition to date, across all the folks I follow. You added a data point to the story in order to blend into the sponsor. Nicely done sir!
11:09 ,went from Flowing water 💧to basically Flushing the toilet 🚽& a dump 💩
The Fresh Kills Landfall in Staten Island is also in the process of becoming a giant park today ,going from the world's largest Landfill to one of the largest parks in NYC, it once was a prestine salt water marsh with one of the best & most productive clamming spots on the east coast, it was technically a illegal dump as the City of New York failed to get the legal permission to do so originally
However, due to its geological instability, nothing of significance can be constructed there.
The building where I grew up in NYC had a coal boiler, and I remember the ash cans. Also the school where I taught in the '60's to '70's ran on coal. The building was 100 years old.
hello from the ash dump i mean flushing nyc. where im watching this. its great to learn about where you live. thanks
Another great and interesting story Ryan. Thanks
Interesting video, here in Toronto, We still used incinerators up until I think 1987!
And then what happened?!
Putting the ash aside, The still photo at 15:54 is the Long Island RR to the left is the Whitestone branch and further down to the right is the Flushing Central RR both long gone. The center track is still in use today. work around that park for years and lots of story's of interest in that area😊
A fascinating story, thank you!
My father was born in 1917 and he sometimes used the terms "ash heap" and "ash can" in conversation, even though neither was something that was still in existence during my lifetime.
It's a retronym, a word indicating a lost technology. Like saying "I'll dial you" when phones no longer have dials.
I still remember reading the description of the dump in Gatsby. It stayed with me. I've visited the park a few times over the years since, and its so hard to believe its the same place.
Another great video in the books🤟
Great content, very informative
Glad you think so!
Many apartment buildings had in house incinerators.
Gives some great context to "the valley of ashes between West Egg and Manhattan" referenced in the Great Gatsby
I was gunna say that :)
Will Cnty IL had a humongous ash pile near Plainfield mysteriously disappear also!🤔
So, with the closure of the dump, what did NY do? Did NY change from coal to oil? Even so, what did they do with their waste?
I grew up in this area flushing Medow's park & connecting willow lake park were our stomping grounds back in the late 60's & 70's Park drive east area.
Great! Thanks
You're welcome!
I don't remember anyone doing a story on the once Smoky and Smoldering New Jersey Meadowlands! Of which New Yorkers complained about for decades.
I think someone famous (ashes) was spread across one of the end zone, I think his first name was Al (not ai) LOL...
You're so cute. I'm glad you show more of yourself in these videos.
😊 thank you
NYC was infinitely cleaner then than it is today.
U should do a video on the old PPG Lime Lakes in Barberton Ohio
At last I know why back in 1960s Detroit the old folks called garbage cans 'ash cans'. Thanks 👍
The picture at 11:00 is of the 1964 World's Fair, not the 1939.
To say nothing about the GIANT Crocagators that used to hide in tunnels they dug in the ash heaps and the dozens and dozens of ppl who "disappeared" over the years in and around that dump.
I confused. I thought ash after burning did not pose any bacterial or food for rats. No if you’re referring to raw garbage, that’s different.
the latest "Great Gatsby" movie protrayed the ash dump pretty well I thought.
3:24 , what is up with that car on the right? Is it getting towed?
You said back then they didn't relocate landfills they don't do it today either 😂😂😂😂
There's plenty of documentation about the site and the reclamation / cleanup. "Flushing Meadows - Corona Park Studio Report". Drainage installed, topsoil "created" from bay mud.
These kinds of dumps are nothing but huge ash holes.
Great Gatsby had us knowing bout this since 5th grade
Maybe the next video can feature other ash monofills that have become great places: the Brooklyn Botanical Gardens and JFK airport are two good examples.
Now the location of Arthur Ashe Stadium.
Why do we say, 'can fill up x many Olympic swimming pools?' How many people earth wide have seen an Olympic swimming pool? Wouldn't it be more relevant to say, 'can fill up x many 40 foot containers?' Everybody on the planet has seen a 40 foot container. Just to think about.
What's a "foot", asks the non-American. 😊
@@darryljorden9177
12 inches, or 30.5cm
My plastic robocans say 'no hot ashes" on them.
that's pretty standard around the world though. ashes put an end to many plastic bins until we worked it out.
Where do you think the term "Cinder Block" comes from?
We had coal heat when I was a kid.Everyone had a driveway made of ashes
beauty comes from ugly. great video 2x👍
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NYC burned anthracite coal. Anthracite when burned does not give off particulates
Depending on how WELL you burn it; anthracite has a much higher ignition temperature than bituminous, and needs a good, strong WOOD FIRE to get the initial coal burning. Proper air supply, such as underfire and override air, plus draft control, will produce no visible smoke.
Hmmmmm I wonder is anything "nasty" leaches up during heavy rains ???
There is more than ash buried there..😊
And here I thought Linus Sebastian was the king of the segways to sponsors lol
Ryan consistently has the best segues on RUclips
Wait, wait, wait. You mentioned human remains and just keep going? We're not going to circle back to wth that meant?
It means dead people were sometimes burnt and tossed with the garbage. 😮
"Bring out yer dead!" .
@@1puppetbike Out of convenience or cover up?
Ahhh... the Mets play on an Ash Dump. Makes sense.
*Industries might have a polution problem, but don't forget that industry produces for the people...If people were producing their needs on their own, the polution would be even worst !*
"Turn of the century" no longer means what you think it means :)
It could be cubed and dumped in the deep ocean.
What’s up with the fake photo at 3:30
Just looks colorized to me
Something doesn’t jive, wasn’t the 1939 Worlds Fair also in Flushing Corona
The 1939 and 1964 fairs were both held at the same location.
Ash as a problem. But then you had asbestos?
Sounds like the ash problem was cleaned up but asbestos still plagues our society and will for a long time. It was literally in everything
He called f Scott Fitzgerald Francis Scott key
The author's full name is Francis Scott Key Fitzgerald.
Flushing Park and 2 World's Fairs. Thank you Robert Moses.
Getting your ahes hauled, more than one meaning gentalmen !
Couldn’t lots of rare earth metals be within the ash? Currently China is the world leader in rare earth metals since they harvest at lot from coal ash.
Now it's home to the Mets!
And if there is a one in a life time massive rain and flooding....
That packed down ash will be washed away.
Outcome,...a total nightmare.
I am like number 847
In that time there was plenty of jobs.
Wow, thanks, never knew of this but know such things were not rare back then. How horrific we are to ourselves and to the land/environment!! Can't imagine what humungous heaps the current population would have accumulated. OR maybe too many would have had respiratory problems and could not live or live with it. Simply NOT sustainable!
2:20. Society is so messed up we have to blur a drawing of cavewoman boobs.
New York is the dump
And where YOU live is supposed to be better?!
Remember kids, it's not a war on coal, it's coal's war on life.
Yeah instead of improving scrubbing and disposal while innovating ways to be more green its totally better to completely be out of a job and not use a natural resource that is cheap and abundant.
There IS such a thing as the Karrick Low Temperature Carbonization process, where a gas richer than natural gas, as well as gasoline, fuel oils, and even a smokeless char can be produced. Google it!
Drawn out and too long. Great subject, but way too long. Why so long?
Watch the movie my man Godfrey, William Powell it literally opens making references to ash piles , then later repurposed ash piles