Lead loading a shillelagh (yes, I know lead shot can be used, but you get less in & it can rattle)
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
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Note: I'm fully aware lead shot can be used, however you get less in & it sometimes rattles no matter whether you use epoxy/glue/wax/etc
The Shillelagh I carried when I was in Law enforcement was thicker and had a bigger knob head. It got the job done keeping criminals in check. It was made for me by an elderly Irishman who was once a policeman in Ireland 🇮🇪. I still have it.
What do Americans and English know about Shillelaighs 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@SimonTimoney-74 I can't speak for anybody else but I'll tell you one thing I learned about the sheleighly from an Irishman who was a cop in Ireland 🇮🇪 and made it for me.
@@SimonTimoney-74 you have a lot of Irish Americans here in States. And those Traditions have traveled with their families when they settled in the United States. So contrary to what you may believe my man there is a lot of Irish-Americans here who have know and understand what a shillelagh is
Just found your channel!
What a top Shillelagh that is, even before loading it! I’m a fan of the molten lead. Better than shot, much heavier and doesn’t burn the wood like people think either. And you disguised it brilliantly too. Top job!👍
Man, I'd be gundy for the day, clouting every hopper I saw with that nice little shillelagh before the lead was even properly cooled. What a great implement for delivering first-rate palfries to all and sundry.
I used to do the hops in Kent lol 👍
Don't talk Cack
@@SimonTimoney-74 lol👍
Great job adding the lead and you finish is very nice and shiny. But I pity the fool who deserves a beating from that.
"Deserves" is key, then there's no need for pity.
@@allanlarmour7460 :smartguy:
I put a big piece of round stock of brass in mine and carved a shamrock ☘️ in it
lead shot and epoxy mixed like a rice crispy bun works just as well , and a lot less messing about
Good thinking!
I'm soon to be a walking stick candidate, and I'm going to steal that one. I reckon the shot/resin is a better technique.
Nice !! I am on my own weapon making journey myself and have made my own version of the Shillelagh as well as knob handle canes and paddle clubs and Native war clubs. Don"t you just fall in love with making them ? I know I have .
Nice job. Neat finishing.
As I recall from my village childhood and from some other diy stuff, but it is a good idea to make the cavity with cone at the bottom, that will hold the lead inside better. Even the wood cracks it will stay in.
Always wondered how to lead load a blackthorn stick. Thank you for sharing. 👍
I mixed lead from my airgun pellet trap (essentially lead dust and bits of lead foil) with ultra slow-set epoxy. Made the mix, vac chambered it for half an hour to pull out the bigger bubbles and packed the cavity. Worked a treat and I knew that there was no way it'd split the head of my stick, which I did when I tried a hot pour.
Thanks for that tip. I will do that. 👍
Unless one is going to be an executioner, IMO weighted handles are overkill and possibly counterproductive for most situations. I consider my 39 inch Blackthorn stick as primarily a striking weapon with the small end, perfect for a vicious stray dog. It would work for the 2-legged kind of problem too, should that ever arise, using thrusts to the torso mixed with two-hand whipping strikes to the head/neck and one-hand backhands to his knees.
OUCH !!!
Yep, enough lead to make it worth the work is enough to slow it too much for me - my blackthorn is whip-fast and will break bones as is. I do see the use though - not everyone fights that way. A nice loaded stick would still make me feel plenty safe, I'd just have to adapt.
I made an oak stick for my wife with a handle made of copper pipe that's filled with sand (lead-loading is illegal here) and the 45° butt-cap has a silver British £1 coin soldered to it that will hurt a lot.
Not to mention it’s just dumb. If you used a modified shillelagh with lead in the head to defend yourself you’re 10000000% going to prison no matter what if you’re in the U.K.
A normal shillelagh is a walking stick and there’s no way to prove you carry it for self defence, as long as you don’t get carried away when using it you’d be fine legally speaking.
As soon as you modify it and add lead it becomes an offensive weapon and you’ll get time whether it was self defence or not.
Make a brass head for it as a decorative piece or something else that’s legal that has the same effect, don’t do what the doofus in this video did unless you wanna go to prison.
It occurs to me that you don't need to melt the lead. Pack bird shot in as tight as you can, then plug it tight. Should act like a dead blow mallet then.
I have done that, but you get noticeably less lead in & it rattles
@Paladine exactly what I do
@xc5647321 xc5647321Just make very sure the wood is really dry. Water flashing to steam in molten lead can make pretty patterns on the ceiling.
@@freqeist me too
@Jonathan Henson I'll have some more up soon
im just a beginner and your work is quite an inspiration.
1st, you are right with not using shot, and filling it solid. 2nd people mistake the reason to use shot, instead of solid lead: It's not filled completely like stuffing a bean bag. You wish to use shot, so that it shifts , and moves. This is harder to swing, but delivers more momentum, and impact. The shot shifts backward(as you cock your arm back) , working against your swing. However going forward, it slams to the front. You need a little bit of space there fore, to allow it to move. You most have a large enough head, and not pack it fuller ever, than 50 %. With shot, you need a cavity permitting shifting, and a large head.
@@Schralenberger if you do that, like a deadblow mallet, you've essentially made a giant maraca that will be noisy & weird to carry as a walking stick
u make some ot the best shillelahg's and woodworking i have learned Alot from watching you and thers that ake apart in this art
Thanks! I try my best!
That should make quite an impression on a highwayman that picks you as his next victim.
More likely to leave a depression
@@planeinglish7095 And a concussion...
@@wailnshred And possibly a corpse
@@Inv1cto Very possible!
...Is this Dude making a Shillelagh on the Quiet, Whispering & Darkness ??? 🎶🕺💃🎶🍻🙏
Nice work.
Perfect for an evening stroll
Amazing work my brother!
Absolutely beautiful. I wish we could get the same materials here in the US. I wonder what we have that is comparable?
I'd love for some hickory or osage, just look at what the natives used for war clubs
We have a lot of great woods here
Oak or any hardwood you can get your hands on I made my first cudgel out of lime wood its strong stuff but needs fire hardening
Look for a plum tree, very similar to blackthorn.
Dude North America is covered in hardwood. Black locust is my favorite. Harder than hickory and it grows extremely fast.
I put a nail crosswise through the hole before I pour the lead in. That locks it up good.
Now that's a heavy Lethal tool !!
Now that's a skull masher :)
Very good content and woodwork.
Would it have been acceptable to just add small lead shot pounded into placewith quick set adhesive into the bore hole adding the plug be sanded smoothly ? No molten lead same weight no burn risk.
You get less in, & sometimes it rattles. There's no burn risk, it's just distracting when you're trying to film
@@StonesSticksBones Nice work noted. I have cast lead machinist mallets and hot lead it what it is.
Very cool brother
I’m definitely gonna be ordering a Shillelagh if they’re still available on your Etsy page! I actually just found your Etsy & before I could look at the whole store I seen you had a YT channel as well. I hope these are still being offered bc an authentic great quality handmade Shillelagh would be perfect to have over here across the pond in Ohio on our dairy farm. If that asshole Bull we got gets testy with me again the next time I’m in a stall with him while I’m literally feeding him he doesn’t see it like that. He thinks just bc I bring him into the barn stall to eat that he can start trying to kick me, gore me, or smash me against the walls like he’s done multiple times but with a good ol lead lined Shillelagh I can give him a proper knock in the head!
Quick question. Shillelagh were made from oak originally but because of the scarcity of oak they switched over to blackthorn. Is there any benefit to oak over black thorn or blackthorn over oak?
I'm not sure how much stock I put in oak being too scarce (it's not like shillelaghs were being industrially produced!). I'm not really a fan of oak, in terms of durability, looks, ease of working, density, etc, I'd much prefer blackthorn (one advantage of oak would be that it's available commercially)
Very nice sir 👍🏻
Why was I thinking gunpowder to make a boom stick? lol
Hi i just noticed your channel and was woundering, do you think that u could make a staff that was like a compass. With metal rod running down the middle. Say if you tied somethread to it in the middle would it point in the direction of north. Some wood i think elder or yew can has a nattruall hollow in middle. Interesting channel 👍
That wouldn't work. It would be a lot easier to just fit a compass in the top
When I was a kid, I cut a small hole in a tennis ball and filled the ball with (molten) lead, cinder block was no match.
Always wanted one of these Finley sticks.
Your next project you should make a mallet
I like 👍 that
Good job ! I want to try it actually … What about the risk when you pour the molten lead, that the head of the stick may crack !?
Just make sure the wood is properly seasoned & don't do it when it's really cold & you should be ok
Emphasis on "should"....🤪....
Thanks for sharing. I like it. GF1 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😁😁😁🙈
Problem here in Roswell new Mexico is finding good hard wood
Is there no suitable mesquite?
Get some desert iron wood, its strong and has beautiful grain.
Why melt lead when a couple ounces of #7 shot would have filled it. Then it would be like a dead blow mallet
Gets more in & doesn't rattle
I would bet ounce to ounce would be the same and you fill it like I said you will not hear it rattle. I have done both ways
thats nice
Why not bore a thin hole that widens? It seems that would help keep the lead in with no need to plug.
Because that would be unnecessarily complex. The plug is cosmetic (also so it's discreet) & so you're not handling lead every time you use it, not to hold the lead in
yet another use for old tire-balance weights!
SWING THE SHILLELAGH!!!
Does the molten lead not burn the Wood?
Nope, it's not massively hot & cools pretty quickly
Thanks!
Yes it does.
Nice
i filled one today but I dont think I put enough in as the balance isnt that different, hey ho lesson learnt
With shot?
@@StonesSticksBones yes
Why not just use lead shot with a little epoxy instead of dealing with molten lead?
You get less in & much higher chance of one getting loose & rattling
Nice work. Do you sell these?
I do, there's a link to my shop in the description, but I don't think I have any walking stick length ones in atm
How to make that black color? Just paint?
Or woodstain
Thank's for answer
The one my Grandfather left me was hung over a peat fire in the chimney for 6 months, I believe that's the traditional way.
Don't slap this lads cap in an Irish pub..
If police ever discover this say it was an antique as doing this yourself is illegal.
Not here it isn't
I'm gonna B A 🐔 💩 & use lead shot & epoxy 🐓
Hi can you donate one of your shoelace you just made it really beautiful thank you
Sticks'n'stones : What kind of wood stain did you use?
Looks cool
This one was just varnished!