This reminds me of when the Morbid Zoo described "Race Horror" when she said "The revolutionary thing that Jordan Peele did as an artist wasn't to write about Black issues. It was to say that the horror of racism partly comes from its absurdity."
I remember one tabloid that talked about the possibility of a Nope 2, and if it's any title that deseves a neverending stream of sequels, its the one where the big bad is a larger than life foreign monstrosity that literally chews people up and spits them out, literally killed a person at the end of their career with money, is totally powerless if you don't give it attention, and very clearly and obviously got killed on screen at the end
His House on Netflix is one of the most refreshing, unique, and devastating horror films in recent years. It’s about a Sudan couple that immigrates to England to escape war, not realizing what evil spirit awaits for them. Please tell me someone else has seen this!! 😩
It probably works really well as a way to reassure white americans that THEY are not a Black person's Karen, Karens are only these caricatural women. Just like people who think that if you're not a country grandpa who says the n-word, then nothing you do can possibly be racist, because you're not a racist. I don't know who made the movie but it looks like a great tool for white supremacy to hide behind.
I believe Ben from the night of the living dead was not written to be a black character, and Dwayne Jones was just that good in audition. However, it gives the movie a different feel by having a black character regardless. I'll never forget that scene where he slaps that hysterical white woman back to reality. 😂
I mean you don’t have to think it, George A Romeros has said this multiple times, he didn’t intend on the racial themes, he only cast the best actor for the role in his opinion. The implications followed and subtext and whatnot. Romeros would get more political later on but in this case he’s very adamant about not writing it specifically to have a black actor playing the part
I watched another video about Black people in horror movies and it said how he was cast as the best actor, but between finishing the movie and its release, MLK Jr. was assassinated. So the audience saw it with that fresh in their minds.
I think it's important to remember that the "next Get Out" will be so good, it'll be incomparable to it. No one says Jurassic Park was the next Godzilla, or that Frozen was the next Beauty And The Beast. No one can predict game changers, that's why it's important to support whatever you can, when you can, especially when it tries something new and original.
Antebellum even doing a sort of Jacob's Ladder style (with a dash of Memento), where there's this back and forth between "past" and modern could have been more ultimately compelling. Leave it ambiguous what the connection even IS. Unspoken but having some kinds of cross cuts that imply linkage. And could even be a stronger payoff to the messed up room stuff. Show that as this sign of how the oppression hasn't really gone away. Around the end of act 2 you do the FULL reveal that these are not two people separated by time but in fact the exact same person, with the 3rd act reserved for cutting between her beginnings on the plantation and her last moments. Her getting broken down and then her final fight for survival, cut back and forth. But that's also basically writing a whole new movie.
I might be actual stupid but when I saw it, I actually felt the movie in the exact way that your describing it. I haven’t seen anything about it (no trailers etc., didn’t know anything going into it). And I remember thinking the whole farm thing was like a dream or some sort of linking to the past. I have no idea where they made it clear that early that it was the same person. I actually remember being flabbergasted when I realized the farm scenes happen in the modern world. But I have to say I’m a pretty chill movie watcher and basically put no thought whatsoever in it haha
I remember being so stoked for Antebellum, thinking it was a spin on Octavia Butler's Kindred and then when that didn't happen, a lot of the promotion fell a little flat, like it had been mismarketed
Okay, can we talk about Kindred for a second? I just read it last week and it’s easily one of the best books I’ve read this year, and I’ve read a lot. I need to read more of Octavia Butler
@@Roseforever84lmao, I remember watching the trailer for Antebellum and how someone compared the trailer to Kindred, so I had to buy the e-book and I really enjoyed it because the concept of being suddenly displaced to a time where your people were enslaved is both terrifying and exciting as a plot. I haven’t heard of other media that does what Kindred did, but it’s probably out there and I’d love to hear what people have seen
THIS. I’m 100% certain they did this on purpose. They wanted us to believe it was Kindred-the little girl in the elevator? The time shifts? The way they edited the trailer made it seem like a completely different movie. I was never so disappointed.
As someone who covers a lot of horror content, this is a well-done expose of representation in the genre. The sons of Get Out have me weak cause I don't want the fantasy of horror to always center on race/racism as the source of our horror.
@@HerReelReview Yes! There’s this line of thinking that being black is a constant horror movie/show and that’s INSANE! I don’t wake up scared to live life because of my skin color. I’m fully aware of how I’m viewed and what can happen to me because I’m black, but everything else is so extreme. Black people can be in any kinda horror movie - none of it is real and you can just make it up! 😂
even just from the clips in this video, i'm reminded of how good an actor daniel kaluuya is. i should rewatch get out, and then watch the good movies you mentioned in this video
I love how you mention all the ways Chris is an unique character and feels like a person, because he is meant to be an audience surrogate, so it's amazing how much richer a character who's supposed to be a blank slate is compared to others.
It's so true that Get Out being story focused with distrubing, thrilling, and unsettling elements, rather than having scares in mind with minimal care for the time before and after those moments having something to say. I love both kinds of horror, story first and scare first. The worst horror films tend to not have directors and/or writers who do not know the difference between these styles of horror. Black horror > black trauma for me every time. I wish we could see some cool scare focused horror films with black main characters again (without it being blatant black trauma). I watched Them a few years ago, expecting a story focused horror story and was not at all scared in a fun or even informative way.
Small context, I'm a black woman who was adopted by a white woman. So when Them came out initially I was intrigued by the premise since the trailers looked promising. My mom insisted the family, including my also adopted white brother, watch it because "the history is important". When I watched it, the visceral discomfort I endured the whole time was unparalleled. I kept wondering, "who is this for?" If it was for white people to make them uncomfortable, odds are anyone who's white watching it was already aware of their own privilege and prejudice; those who weren't uncomfortable probably weren't the target audience anyway. If it was for black people, then why did it feel so horrifying to sit through? Why was there little reprieve? Censorship? It alienates pretty much everyone. Rather than educate on the horrors, it felt like I was experiencing them for myself.
@@randompromises1038 no offense, but I think the director intended that reaction. A lot of story makers want the audience to truly experience the story
3:50 it goes to the truth that American identity and culture is based on commodity consumption or Black coolness. Black coolness has been strip mined each generation and re-packaged for the young white kids in America (Swing/big band, Rock and Roll as early examples). Once it crosses over there is a trend-cycle where everyone jumps on board until it peters out and something else is cool.
Nothing warms my heart more than hearing us talk about horror esp when we have historical & current knowledge of how it came to be & how it's evolved thus far. Also Get Out is the best black horror in history. To me its always been Tales From The Hood....... but since 2017, they're a tie now😎
Those clips of Karen feels like "MCU Dialogue", it's so slilted, It just reminded me of a trailer for Bullet Train starring Brad Pitt where he calls a woman shushing him a Karen
Except that Karen thinks its capturing a cultural moment while Bullet Train thinks all its characters are self obsessed dorks and has no protagonist centered morality at all outside of the few concessions it makes to Hollywood style story telling over its Japanese novel source material. Though I guess Guardians of the Galaxy and Avengers both have MCU dialogue but Guardians attitude towards its characters is much closer to Bullet Train's.
I say this with full sincerity: I would have actually been DISAPPOINTED if People Under the Stairs WASNT your favorite Wes Craven film, because with all the videos of yours that I’ve seen up until now, it just makes sense to me that it should be your favorite, because it’s that great.
Your video on The People Under the Stairs is how I found your channel! Idc what film snobs say about Cronenberg, true horror fans-especially POC ones- know that Wes Craven is the horror GOAT. Also, what made Get Out special and unique to me was how it explored the freeze response + dissociation from PTSD. Racism makes life hardER. Chris is not a prototypical film civil rights hero whose entire life is “the struggle.” His narrative arc isn’t the auction “no no no” scene, it’s the pre-op scene where he LITERALLY has to find a way to get back into his body + take agency to fight the dangers/traumas in his present. Literally!!!
Us remains my favorite peele movie cause its just absolutely like nothing else. Its wild and creative and adamantly dream like, no matter how much unclear realities bother most audiences
I think what Get Out dupes Fail to understand that at its core Get Out is a great Horror story FIRST in the sense that even if you take out the racial commentary its still great to watch
Wym take out the racial commentary. The racial aspects of the film are baked into the film itself. I don't think you can separate the race from the horror.
The racial critique is the horror, this comment gives colorblind. People are just so uncomfortable with race. Yes it would still be a great horror but would it be as acclaimed as it is without the racial context--no. Easter eggs like Rose's striped shirt, her separated cereal, the tea cup, the cotton in the ears, etc. etc. all little aspects of brilliance that just can't be replicated out of a racial context. Look at Midsommar. It's the same thing. Yes it's a great horror, but it's still a commentary on prejudice, among others.
Never seen Antebellum but wth the plot you present that they could have alternatively gone with is soooo much better than what the actual plot seems to be. Idk why they would do it the way they did wtf it could've been a really good movie, messing with your mind as to what is real etc. a full on psychological thriller. damn...
Antebellum was a CRAZY movie. I actually stopped it at some point to see if the creators were black because I was so disturbed at the levels of violence happening to black characters.
It really bugs me that "Karen" has a wealthy couple living in a neighborhood like that as the protagonists when the "Karen" archetype is primarily about abusing service workers and strangers by exploiting the implicit authority that real authority gives white women over black people. It's about assholes calling the cops and/or demanding your boss fire you for not kissing her ass enough, not just "any racist white woman". Also I sure hope Janelle Monae got paid well for appearing in that miserable movie cuz uhhhhh >_>
not the main idea of the video, but i just love that every time i watch one of your videos I have to open letterboxd in the next tab, adding every movie you mention like it's a curated watchlist by my professor or something. I've never been into horror before watching some of your recs because they're often just trauma corn and/or white supremacist vibes, so it's really awesome to find ones that actually center POC, and particularly black characters while also being artful and meaningful :] woohoo
People under the Stairs is still one of my all-time favorites. It was cheesy and fun, but it was also incredibly smart, anti-capitalist, and empathic to peoples situations. I was born dirt poor growing up in a similar neighborhood, so while I'm not black, I still saw a lot of myself in the main character. It's nice seeing someone talk about this movie without talking shit.
two things: 1. So much good things you spitting that I feel like I should be watching this video with a notepad and pen 2. by damn, lol I ga need you to put the bibliography in your description lol so many movies you referenced that I now want to watch (even the bad ones)
I would honestly love to see an adaptation of the YA book "Ace of Spades" by Faridah Àbíké-ĺyímídé. The author in both the dedication and the afterword blatantly cites her inspiration from "Get Out" but still went out of her way to write an emotionally engaging story with fully realized characters that we grow to care about.
The best of horror, is having an original perspective and a clear understanding from the author of what scares them. Horror has always been a personal experience, it is not about jump scares or plot twists, but showing the world what you, as an author, are seeing. Jordan Peele is excellent at that, in get out it is not truth that is scary, is the fact that our protagonist has this nagging feeling that something is off during the whole time, that ultimately he was right, that all his hope and efforts for it to work were useless from the beginning. i feel like there is this need from the media, to create movies about black people, but you rarely see movies from black people perspective. And i say this as someone who is not black, making it obvious that this phenomenon shows. But something I've learned after consuming a ton of international media, is that each movie/series/comic/book/video carries around the perspective and sensitivities of the author, and because of that you cannot replicate something like "the black experience". The only option is to allow people from different backgrounds to create something from their own point of view, something that they really want to share.
istg I was thinking of how damn fantastic the teacup symbolism and the whole title drop scene in Get Out are while I was on the bus home, and this is the first thing I see when opening youtube💀💀 seriously amazing video, I have so much to learn about black horror as a genre and I'm super excited to read/see/support more, thanks for making and sharing💖💖
She has a whole video talking about it! You should check it out, its called "The People Under the Stairs | The Horrors of Landlords and Housing Discrimination".
@@payt00n afaik it's supposed to be an anthology. By god please get rid of the writers. No show has made me so uncomfortable in my life. Yes, that's the point of political commentary and horror which go hand in hand almost every time but the show or film is still supposed to be _watchable_ at the same time. I can't rewatch the show. It's so genuinely triggering that I can't in good faith recommend it to anyone.
I don't see why the show gets so much hate. Yes, the first season was messed up, and I didn't like it that much. It was pretty scary, but it left a bad taste in my mouth. But it wasn't terrible. However, the second season was amazing! LOVED IT! and I love how they are connecting the seasons as generations of the same family, pretty cool...
I love your videos but I want to talk about your point about blacksploitation. It's a far more fascinating history then even I knew until I was told it by my father and later there were several books and I think maybe a video essay that elluded to it. And strangely enough it mirrors Get Out in so many ways. For you younger people you hear the words "white guilt" but don't really understand the context of it's origins. It was a era where white people over compensated for everything that happened before and during the badly named Civil Rights era. The results of that time produced so many interesting results, but one of those was a little movie called Cotton Comes to Harlem. In 1968 Ossie Davis was approached by producers from MGM to make a movie staring black actors. Few people realize the level of respect Ossie Davis and Ruby Dee held in America at the time but he was given a modest budget and set about making a movie by black people for black people long before Marvel did it with Black Panther. One of the most popular black authors was Chester Himes who was famous of his Harlem Detective series of novels and Ossie Davis choose Cotton Comes to Harlem. The movies starred a whose who of black famous actors and was released in 1970. It was made for $1.2 million dollars and went on to gross over 5 million dollars. (IN 1970s that was a huge deal.) Because it made so much money an arms race to produce "black movies" began which is how the whole Blackspoitation era began. And the movies produced were no where near the quality of Cotton Comes to Harlem because most of them were written by white writers and made by white directors. This is the kind of thing Robert Townsend was parodying in Hollywood Shuffle's "Black Acting School" segment. How the success of Get Out was treated is an example of history repeating itself.
This title made me chuckle, it's giving strong Eddie Murphy welfare burger vibes 😂 I was so excited when I first heard that Janelle Monae would be the lead in a film. When I saw the trailer for Antebellum, that excitement dissipated pretty quickly. I guessed the "twist" without even watching the movie. It seemed like a missed opportunity.
A twitch streamer I watch has been in development hell with her screenplay for years now. Multiple times she's described it as the "asian Get Out." I hope she's saying that just for pragmatic reasons and doesn't actually think that way, because if she does I'd find it tough to want to watch her commentary streams again.
I tried to find you and your videos a month or so ago but couldn't find them anywhere. I have notifications turned on now, will watch this one after work!
I can’t overstate just how much I love your work. I get so much out of everything you release. You make truly top tier content that should be recognized even more than it already is.
Currently working my way through every single one of your videos I’m like 3hrs deep all is absolutely brilliant stuff my new favorite RUclipsr thank you
I hate how everybody compares every single black horror movie to Get Out. The movie Spiral (2019) has a black lead, he is literally the only black character in the movie, and in the reviews on Letterboxd everyone kept comparing the movie to Get Out, the plot wasn't even remotely similar.... Really grinded my gears.
As much as I hate Antebellum, yes, the whole thing being a reenactment is meant to be the twist, and I don’t necessarily hate that it’s set up that way. It’s a bad movie, but starting in the midst of things and learning how you got there later isn’t a new or even bad trope.
it would have been a better twist if all the trailers didn't already tell you there was a modern-day aspect to it. going into it, i already knew it was a modern-day story, so the twist only could have been time travel or a reenactment. the reenactment twist isn't bad, it just works better if they didn't already show viewers it's set in the modern day, you know? but these are just my thoughts
I can't wait for a genius screenwriter/ filmmaker to give us an excellent interpretation of one of Octavia Butler's books. Her books literally give me the chills. Parable of the Sower and Parable of the Talent is the scariest shit I read after 1984 from Orwell and Second Class Citizen from Emecheta. Some scenes in her books are so vividly descriptive, that I had to close the book and pause. Love her!!!
Get Out had a really strong impact on me as a Black guy who has been in so many white liberal spaces. But my god every movie trying to Do Get Out is so baaaaaaad.
I stumbled upon your channel yesterday and watched four of your videos back-to-back! I really enjoy your nuanced perspective and how you present your analysis. Also, you have such a soothing voice that's so easy to listen to. You've got a new subscriber :)
Got to be honest, Jordan Peele is to on the nose with what hes trying to do. Like even when hes trying to convey a secret message or anything, its like someone yelling it down the hall. Peele tried to bring this way of thinking to his own version of the Twilight Zone and it bombed hard.
Looking at these kinds of films makes me appreciate just how ahead of the curve Jordan Peele is as a filmmaker. It's like as soon as others try to catch up with bad imitations of what he did years ago, he brings out a new film that defies the expectations of what people think he can do.
I can't tell you how many thriller/horror books I've seen use Get Out as a comp title. From what I've noticed these books use it to hint that the main character will be in a confined space (house, boarding school, workplace, etc.) and there will be racial commentary. The confined space is an inherent aspect of the Monster In the House genre and black authors typically discuss race in horror/thriller novels at least a little bit. So the quote you shared about constantly comparing black art to one popular black story feeling like a microaggression resonated with me. I feel like we're forgetting Peele's nuanced commentary on performative activism when we compare Get Out to every story with the same skin.
Another film that comes to mind is "The Invitation" (2022) a vampire related story which the podcast "Double Toasted" referred to as feeling like a "Get Out" knock off.
the amount of parallels antebellum could've had regarding the difference between the modern world and the times of slavery and even a commentary on current slavery whether literal or metaphorical, but they didn't!
yeahh i always think about how the Boondocks portrayal BET still stands today. Even tho it’s a black studio they can still miss the mark on black stories and commentary. it’s kinda weird but the same can be said about tyler perry and some the films he’s made over the years 12:16
Not to defend Antebellum but I didn't know anything about the movie before watching it and I thought it was set in the past. So when it was revealed 40min in that it was actually in the present and presenting who the character really was was a plot twist to me and I liked that. But I don't remember the movie vividly, it was just okay
Guy who's only seen one black movie: Getting a real _Get Out_ vibe from this movie
Lmaooo
Womp Womp
@@Test-xx5xc Found the guy who's only seen one black movie.
@@giantpinkcat yes and it’s Black Dynamite
@@Test-xx5xc "womp womp" im in ur home
This reminds me of when the Morbid Zoo described "Race Horror" when she said "The revolutionary thing that Jordan Peele did as an artist wasn't to write about Black issues. It was to say that the horror of racism partly comes from its absurdity."
It really is absurd
I unsubbed from that morbid zoo video.
@@Alkamar96why?
Yay, not the only one who mentioned her!
She’s who I immediately thought of when watching this video. I love Princess as well.
I am glad Peele decided to do different movies instead of turning get out to another dying horror series.
Get Out 2, Get Out 3, Get Out 4: The Final Chapter, Get Out X, and the reboot "Get"
@@afterdinnercreations936 "get" XD 😂
@@afterdinnercreations936 the reboot get is killing mee
I remember one tabloid that talked about the possibility of a Nope 2, and if it's any title that deseves a neverending stream of sequels, its the one where the big bad is a larger than life foreign monstrosity that literally chews people up and spits them out, literally killed a person at the end of their career with money, is totally powerless if you don't give it attention, and very clearly and obviously got killed on screen at the end
Get Out ll: The Sunken Place Boogaloo😅
'We got Get Out at home' is an excellent title.
its so funny how people who have never heard of the movie get out would be insanely confused by the wording
Stockholders and execs fruitlessly chasing lightning with a bottle after seeing somebody else catch it: tale as old as time.
I guess that's what's happening with hero movies ever since the 2014 era.
Can you imagine trying to compliment your gf by saying something like "you are a strong, intelligent black woman"
Unfortunately, it's kind of a real thing people do. It's not just a collection of physical traits, it's a *Personality*.
And the she follows it up with "You're so intelligent and woke."
Truly made for each other 😭
Reading this comment without context (just started the video) is sending me. I’m trying to guess what the context will be 😂
@@illiatiia none of those is a personality trait though.
@@KossolaxtheForeswornWhat do you mean? Strong and intelligent are considered personality traits.
His House on Netflix is one of the most refreshing, unique, and devastating horror films in recent years. It’s about a Sudan couple that immigrates to England to escape war, not realizing what evil spirit awaits for them. Please tell me someone else has seen this!! 😩
Bro! I was thinking about this film while watching the video. It doesn't get enough love but DAMN, such a good movie.
Also His House has the best jump scares I've ever seen other than in Hereditary!
@@ereristark425it’s SO underrated!
I have and it was absolutely lovely
Ohh I have it on my list!!! I'll watch it today it sounds amazing
I thought Karen was a parody when I saw the trailer , I had no idea it was meant to be a serious movie 😅
I still like to believe it's a parody. It's the only way I could actually enjoy the story, even if it was a very minimal amount
It probably works really well as a way to reassure white americans that THEY are not a Black person's Karen, Karens are only these caricatural women. Just like people who think that if you're not a country grandpa who says the n-word, then nothing you do can possibly be racist, because you're not a racist. I don't know who made the movie but it looks like a great tool for white supremacy to hide behind.
It honestly could've worked so much better as a parody. Should've leaned into the ridiculousness of its plot more.
What, it was??? When I watched it the tone and the heavy-handedness felt so out of control, genuinely did not realize it was a serious film at all.
i deadass thought so too until I saw Cory's goofy ass looking so serious talking about "youssa strong, intelligent black woman"
I believe Ben from the night of the living dead was not written to be a black character, and Dwayne Jones was just that good in audition. However, it gives the movie a different feel by having a black character regardless.
I'll never forget that scene where he slaps that hysterical white woman back to reality. 😂
@srose1088 You're right, that's exactly what happened.
I mean you don’t have to think it, George A Romeros has said this multiple times, he didn’t intend on the racial themes, he only cast the best actor for the role in his opinion. The implications followed and subtext and whatnot. Romeros would get more political later on but in this case he’s very adamant about not writing it specifically to have a black actor playing the part
I watched another video about Black people in horror movies and it said how he was cast as the best actor, but between finishing the movie and its release, MLK Jr. was assassinated. So the audience saw it with that fresh in their minds.
@@whatakuriosgirl Yes, he was assassinated on the day they finished editing it.
I think it's important to remember that the "next Get Out" will be so good, it'll be incomparable to it. No one says Jurassic Park was the next Godzilla, or that Frozen was the next Beauty And The Beast. No one can predict game changers, that's why it's important to support whatever you can, when you can, especially when it tries something new and original.
Frozen was mid tho
frozen is trash
@peach0129 not the point bruh
@@whatwasisnotyou too. You get the point
"I was also going to also watch Them for this but then I remembered I love myself." so real
Antebellum even doing a sort of Jacob's Ladder style (with a dash of Memento), where there's this back and forth between "past" and modern could have been more ultimately compelling. Leave it ambiguous what the connection even IS. Unspoken but having some kinds of cross cuts that imply linkage.
And could even be a stronger payoff to the messed up room stuff. Show that as this sign of how the oppression hasn't really gone away. Around the end of act 2 you do the FULL reveal that these are not two people separated by time but in fact the exact same person, with the 3rd act reserved for cutting between her beginnings on the plantation and her last moments. Her getting broken down and then her final fight for survival, cut back and forth.
But that's also basically writing a whole new movie.
I would've preferred them to hold off on the reveal too!! Like let us guess a little. I totally agree
I forgot what its called but there's a tv show that released not to long ago that kind of did this
@@payt00n damn tell us when u remember the name
I might be actual stupid but when I saw it, I actually felt the movie in the exact way that your describing it. I haven’t seen anything about it (no trailers etc., didn’t know anything going into it). And I remember thinking the whole farm thing was like a dream or some sort of linking to the past. I have no idea where they made it clear that early that it was the same person. I actually remember being flabbergasted when I realized the farm scenes happen in the modern world. But I have to say I’m a pretty chill movie watcher and basically put no thought whatsoever in it haha
I remember being so stoked for Antebellum, thinking it was a spin on Octavia Butler's Kindred and then when that didn't happen, a lot of the promotion fell a little flat, like it had been mismarketed
Same girl same.
Okay, can we talk about Kindred for a second? I just read it last week and it’s easily one of the best books I’ve read this year, and I’ve read a lot. I need to read more of Octavia Butler
@@Roseforever84lmao, I remember watching the trailer for Antebellum and how someone compared the trailer to Kindred, so I had to buy the e-book and I really enjoyed it because the concept of being suddenly displaced to a time where your people were enslaved is both terrifying and exciting as a plot. I haven’t heard of other media that does what Kindred did, but it’s probably out there and I’d love to hear what people have seen
I thought it was going to be like Kindred and was so excited. 😢
THIS. I’m 100% certain they did this on purpose. They wanted us to believe it was Kindred-the little girl in the elevator? The time shifts? The way they edited the trailer made it seem like a completely different movie. I was never so disappointed.
As someone who covers a lot of horror content, this is a well-done expose of representation in the genre. The sons of Get Out have me weak cause I don't want the fantasy of horror to always center on race/racism as the source of our horror.
@@HerReelReview Yes! There’s this line of thinking that being black is a constant horror movie/show and that’s INSANE! I don’t wake up scared to live life because of my skin color. I’m fully aware of how I’m viewed and what can happen to me because I’m black, but everything else is so extreme. Black people can be in any kinda horror movie - none of it is real and you can just make it up! 😂
even just from the clips in this video, i'm reminded of how good an actor daniel kaluuya is. i should rewatch get out, and then watch the good movies you mentioned in this video
I love how you mention all the ways Chris is an unique character and feels like a person, because he is meant to be an audience surrogate, so it's amazing how much richer a character who's supposed to be a blank slate is compared to others.
It's so true that Get Out being story focused with distrubing, thrilling, and unsettling elements, rather than having scares in mind with minimal care for the time before and after those moments having something to say. I love both kinds of horror, story first and scare first. The worst horror films tend to not have directors and/or writers who do not know the difference between these styles of horror. Black horror > black trauma for me every time. I wish we could see some cool scare focused horror films with black main characters again (without it being blatant black trauma). I watched Them a few years ago, expecting a story focused horror story and was not at all scared in a fun or even informative way.
Small context, I'm a black woman who was adopted by a white woman. So when Them came out initially I was intrigued by the premise since the trailers looked promising. My mom insisted the family, including my also adopted white brother, watch it because "the history is important". When I watched it, the visceral discomfort I endured the whole time was unparalleled. I kept wondering, "who is this for?"
If it was for white people to make them uncomfortable, odds are anyone who's white watching it was already aware of their own privilege and prejudice; those who weren't uncomfortable probably weren't the target audience anyway. If it was for black people, then why did it feel so horrifying to sit through? Why was there little reprieve? Censorship? It alienates pretty much everyone. Rather than educate on the horrors, it felt like I was experiencing them for myself.
@@randompromises1038 no offense, but I think the director intended that reaction. A lot of story makers want the audience to truly experience the story
3:50 it goes to the truth that American identity and culture is based on commodity consumption or Black coolness. Black coolness has been strip mined each generation and re-packaged for the young white kids in America (Swing/big band, Rock and Roll as early examples). Once it crosses over there is a trend-cycle where everyone jumps on board until it peters out and something else is cool.
Yhara is the GOAT and deserves to be remembered as such
"I have this condition where I can't shut up about Scream" Girl same lol
Great video as always btw
Nothing warms my heart more than hearing us talk about horror esp when we have historical & current knowledge of how it came to be & how it's evolved thus far.
Also Get Out is the best black horror in history. To me its always been Tales From The Hood....... but since 2017, they're a tie now😎
I really like People under the Stairs
I love They Cloned Tyrone. Not exactly horror but afro-surrealism. It's such fucking gold.
@@bunnywavyxx9524it’s in the chicken!!!!!
The fact that Karen is a BET original says a lot
BET is owned by them
Those clips of Karen feels like "MCU Dialogue", it's so slilted, It just reminded me of a trailer for Bullet Train starring Brad Pitt where he calls a woman shushing him a Karen
It was a silly line but Bullet Train is truly a good movie.
Except that Karen thinks its capturing a cultural moment while Bullet Train thinks all its characters are self obsessed dorks and has no protagonist centered morality at all outside of the few concessions it makes to Hollywood style story telling over its Japanese novel source material.
Though I guess Guardians of the Galaxy and Avengers both have MCU dialogue but Guardians attitude towards its characters is much closer to Bullet Train's.
Speaking of Black Horror, a film that's haunting and overlooked was Nanny- starring Anna Diop!
That movie was so good! Heartbreaking with great storytelling
I'm going to watch this tonight just from you recommendation. Thanks. The trailer looked good.
@@tacrewgirl yay! Also recommend Eve's Bayou ...believe it's on Prime as well. Its a CLASSIC Southern Gothic!
I say this with full sincerity: I would have actually been DISAPPOINTED if People Under the Stairs WASNT your favorite Wes Craven film, because with all the videos of yours that I’ve seen up until now, it just makes sense to me that it should be your favorite, because it’s that great.
I co-sign that Weekes’ video is a must watch. I love seeing my favorite video essayists supporting each other.
Your video on The People Under the Stairs is how I found your channel! Idc what film snobs say about Cronenberg, true horror fans-especially POC ones- know that Wes Craven is the horror GOAT.
Also, what made Get Out special and unique to me was how it explored the freeze response + dissociation from PTSD. Racism makes life hardER. Chris is not a prototypical film civil rights hero whose entire life is “the struggle.” His narrative arc isn’t the auction “no no no” scene, it’s the pre-op scene where he LITERALLY has to find a way to get back into his body + take agency to fight the dangers/traumas in his present. Literally!!!
Us remains my favorite peele movie cause its just absolutely like nothing else. Its wild and creative and adamantly dream like, no matter how much unclear realities bother most audiences
I think what Get Out dupes Fail to understand that at its core Get Out is a great Horror story FIRST in the sense that even if you take out the racial commentary its still great to watch
Bingo! It’s an amazing horror story, even if these were white characters.
Wym take out the racial commentary. The racial aspects of the film are baked into the film itself. I don't think you can separate the race from the horror.
The racial critique is the horror, this comment gives colorblind. People are just so uncomfortable with race. Yes it would still be a great horror but would it be as acclaimed as it is without the racial context--no. Easter eggs like Rose's striped shirt, her separated cereal, the tea cup, the cotton in the ears, etc. etc. all little aspects of brilliance that just can't be replicated out of a racial context. Look at Midsommar. It's the same thing. Yes it's a great horror, but it's still a commentary on prejudice, among others.
you can't take out the racial commentary tho ??
Without the racial commentary its not the same story
Never seen Antebellum but wth the plot you present that they could have alternatively gone with is soooo much better than what the actual plot seems to be. Idk why they would do it the way they did wtf it could've been a really good movie, messing with your mind as to what is real etc. a full on psychological thriller. damn...
Antebellum was a CRAZY movie. I actually stopped it at some point to see if the creators were black because I was so disturbed at the levels of violence happening to black characters.
🤨 Wtf? You must have hated Django.
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@@whatwasisnot I always skip the slave fight scene in that movie, absolutely terrible and brutal
It really bugs me that "Karen" has a wealthy couple living in a neighborhood like that as the protagonists when the "Karen" archetype is primarily about abusing service workers and strangers by exploiting the implicit authority that real authority gives white women over black people. It's about assholes calling the cops and/or demanding your boss fire you for not kissing her ass enough, not just "any racist white woman".
Also I sure hope Janelle Monae got paid well for appearing in that miserable movie cuz uhhhhh >_>
also I love love love Demon Knight, Jada Pinkett was one of my first gay crushes as a teenager because I saw that movie :)
not the main idea of the video, but i just love that every time i watch one of your videos I have to open letterboxd in the next tab, adding every movie you mention like it's a curated watchlist by my professor or something. I've never been into horror before watching some of your recs because they're often just trauma corn and/or white supremacist vibes, so it's really awesome to find ones that actually center POC, and particularly black characters while also being artful and meaningful :] woohoo
People under the Stairs is still one of my all-time favorites. It was cheesy and fun, but it was also incredibly smart, anti-capitalist, and empathic to peoples situations. I was born dirt poor growing up in a similar neighborhood, so while I'm not black, I still saw a lot of myself in the main character. It's nice seeing someone talk about this movie without talking shit.
two things:
1. So much good things you spitting that I feel like I should be watching this video with a notepad and pen
2. by damn, lol I ga need you to put the bibliography in your description lol so many movies you referenced that I now want to watch (even the bad ones)
I would honestly love to see an adaptation of the YA book "Ace of Spades" by Faridah Àbíké-ĺyímídé. The author in both the dedication and the afterword blatantly cites her inspiration from "Get Out" but still went out of her way to write an emotionally engaging story with fully realized characters that we grow to care about.
The best of horror, is having an original perspective and a clear understanding from the author of what scares them. Horror has always been a personal experience, it is not about jump scares or plot twists, but showing the world what you, as an author, are seeing. Jordan Peele is excellent at that, in get out it is not truth that is scary, is the fact that our protagonist has this nagging feeling that something is off during the whole time, that ultimately he was right, that all his hope and efforts for it to work were useless from the beginning.
i feel like there is this need from the media, to create movies about black people, but you rarely see movies from black people perspective. And i say this as someone who is not black, making it obvious that this phenomenon shows. But something I've learned after consuming a ton of international media, is that each movie/series/comic/book/video carries around the perspective and sensitivities of the author, and because of that you cannot replicate something like "the black experience". The only option is to allow people from different backgrounds to create something from their own point of view, something that they really want to share.
I’ve never even heard of Karen but the fact that they have Taryn Manning as the Karen is just 🧑🏻🍳 🤌
It’s a shame because it looked like a meme movie and it was trash
That forehead tho
@@Noise_floorxx I genuinely thought it was satire but turns out it wasn't. Waste of time.
Omg that title!!! *chefs kiss* utter perfection
istg I was thinking of how damn fantastic the teacup symbolism and the whole title drop scene in Get Out are while I was on the bus home, and this is the first thing I see when opening youtube💀💀 seriously amazing video, I have so much to learn about black horror as a genre and I'm super excited to read/see/support more, thanks for making and sharing💖💖
I just stumbled on this video today and the shout-out to The People Under the Stairs at 3:15 shows your taste. Fantastic.
She has a whole video talking about it! You should check it out, its called "The People Under the Stairs | The Horrors of Landlords and Housing Discrimination".
"I was also going to watch Them" you don't understand how I just screamed "NOOOO" at my computer 😭
Truly a horrid tv show and thr fact they are making a spin off???
@@payt00n afaik it's supposed to be an anthology. By god please get rid of the writers. No show has made me so uncomfortable in my life. Yes, that's the point of political commentary and horror which go hand in hand almost every time but the show or film is still supposed to be _watchable_ at the same time. I can't rewatch the show. It's so genuinely triggering that I can't in good faith recommend it to anyone.
I don't see why the show gets so much hate. Yes, the first season was messed up, and I didn't like it that much. It was pretty scary, but it left a bad taste in my mouth. But it wasn't terrible. However, the second season was amazing! LOVED IT! and I love how they are connecting the seasons as generations of the same family, pretty cool...
I haven't watched the full video yet but are yall taking about the horror show "Them" ? Please tell me if I'm wrong
@@naomi-sh7eu we are, sorry this is late
I love your videos but I want to talk about your point about blacksploitation. It's a far more fascinating history then even I knew until I was told it by my father and later there were several books and I think maybe a video essay that elluded to it. And strangely enough it mirrors Get Out in so many ways. For you younger people you hear the words "white guilt" but don't really understand the context of it's origins. It was a era where white people over compensated for everything that happened before and during the badly named Civil Rights era. The results of that time produced so many interesting results, but one of those was a little movie called Cotton Comes to Harlem. In 1968 Ossie Davis was approached by producers from MGM to make a movie staring black actors. Few people realize the level of respect Ossie Davis and Ruby Dee held in America at the time but he was given a modest budget and set about making a movie by black people for black people long before Marvel did it with Black Panther. One of the most popular black authors was Chester Himes who was famous of his Harlem Detective series of novels and Ossie Davis choose Cotton Comes to Harlem. The movies starred a whose who of black famous actors and was released in 1970. It was made for $1.2 million dollars and went on to gross over 5 million dollars. (IN 1970s that was a huge deal.) Because it made so much money an arms race to produce "black movies" began which is how the whole Blackspoitation era began. And the movies produced were no where near the quality of Cotton Comes to Harlem because most of them were written by white writers and made by white directors. This is the kind of thing Robert Townsend was parodying in Hollywood Shuffle's "Black Acting School" segment. How the success of Get Out was treated is an example of history repeating itself.
This title made me chuckle, it's giving strong Eddie Murphy welfare burger vibes 😂 I was so excited when I first heard that Janelle Monae would be the lead in a film. When I saw the trailer for Antebellum, that excitement dissipated pretty quickly. I guessed the "twist" without even watching the movie. It seemed like a missed opportunity.
Wait ???? Get out only came out in 2017 😭why i feel like that movie been around forever
A twitch streamer I watch has been in development hell with her screenplay for years now. Multiple times she's described it as the "asian Get Out." I hope she's saying that just for pragmatic reasons and doesn't actually think that way, because if she does I'd find it tough to want to watch her commentary streams again.
I tried to find you and your videos a month or so ago but couldn't find them anywhere. I have notifications turned on now, will watch this one after work!
Hadn't ever seen your channel before but THIS IS GOOD
I can’t overstate just how much I love your work. I get so much out of everything you release. You make truly top tier content that should be recognized even more than it already is.
Currently working my way through every single one of your videos I’m like 3hrs deep all is absolutely brilliant stuff my new favorite RUclipsr thank you
Omg this reminds me of reading reviews for His House after watching it and seeing ppl call it a new Get Out…
I hate how everybody compares every single black horror movie to Get Out. The movie Spiral (2019) has a black lead, he is literally the only black character in the movie, and in the reviews on Letterboxd everyone kept comparing the movie to Get Out, the plot wasn't even remotely similar.... Really grinded my gears.
@@zazabroom yikesss saw spin-offs =/= get out at all 😬😬😬😬
@@zazabroomthat pisses me off so badd
As much as I hate Antebellum, yes, the whole thing being a reenactment is meant to be the twist, and I don’t necessarily hate that it’s set up that way. It’s a bad movie, but starting in the midst of things and learning how you got there later isn’t a new or even bad trope.
it would have been a better twist if all the trailers didn't already tell you there was a modern-day aspect to it. going into it, i already knew it was a modern-day story, so the twist only could have been time travel or a reenactment. the reenactment twist isn't bad, it just works better if they didn't already show viewers it's set in the modern day, you know? but these are just my thoughts
@@Yharazayd Hey 👋 Girl 👧 It's been a while 🎉❤
@@Yharazaydhave you seen Morbid Zoo's video on the same topic? I feel like it's an awesome companion piece to this. ❤️ Excellent work, as always.
I can't wait for a genius screenwriter/ filmmaker to give us an excellent interpretation of one of Octavia Butler's books. Her books literally give me the chills. Parable of the Sower and Parable of the Talent is the scariest shit I read after 1984 from Orwell and Second Class Citizen from Emecheta. Some scenes in her books are so vividly descriptive, that I had to close the book and pause. Love her!!!
Get Out had a really strong impact on me as a Black guy who has been in so many white liberal spaces. But my god every movie trying to Do Get Out is so baaaaaaad.
I stumbled upon your channel yesterday and watched four of your videos back-to-back! I really enjoy your nuanced perspective and how you present your analysis. Also, you have such a soothing voice that's so easy to listen to. You've got a new subscriber :)
Karen SHOULD'VE BEEN a parody 🥴it would've been funny, but nooooooo they just had to make it serious. What a joke👎🏽
Ngl i've been waiting for you to make this video since Antebellum came out, so glad to finally watch it :)
Nicely done, Yhara.
Got to be honest, Jordan Peele is to on the nose with what hes trying to do. Like even when hes trying to convey a secret message or anything, its like someone yelling it down the hall. Peele tried to bring this way of thinking to his own version of the Twilight Zone and it bombed hard.
YESSS The People Under the Stairs is amazing and I need more people to see and appreciate it!!
I loved His House.
GANJA AND HESS MENTIONED!!!!!!!! Hell yeah.
Looking at these kinds of films makes me appreciate just how ahead of the curve Jordan Peele is as a filmmaker. It's like as soon as others try to catch up with bad imitations of what he did years ago, he brings out a new film that defies the expectations of what people think he can do.
I mean Scream 1 is a top ten horror film imo. Especially as a 80’s kid/90’s teen. It was perfection.
First video of yours I've seen and I'm blown away, instant sub
Odie and Angelica and Yhara and Princess connect. This is a really good vid, good points about the apropos of nothing scenes in Antebellum
I was already interested in the video but sneaking in Blade's cg-eyes 4:08 is what made me invested LMAO
I unfortunately relate to the scream condition
Yooooooo! The People Under the Stairs rules so much! Easily my favorite Craven, and a personal top 25 movie.
i never seen this channel before. but i just want to say I love your voice, i could listen to you talk about anything
I can't tell you how many thriller/horror books I've seen use Get Out as a comp title. From what I've noticed these books use it to hint that the main character will be in a confined space (house, boarding school, workplace, etc.) and there will be racial commentary. The confined space is an inherent aspect of the Monster In the House genre and black authors typically discuss race in horror/thriller novels at least a little bit. So the quote you shared about constantly comparing black art to one popular black story feeling like a microaggression resonated with me. I feel like we're forgetting Peele's nuanced commentary on performative activism when we compare Get Out to every story with the same skin.
Always down for a video with this particular subject matter. And I appreciate how fair your analysis/criticisms were.
Distracted by the Brahms at the opening lol, I love that sonata so much
There are so many incredible recs in this video and thread! ❤ really appreciate it
This is amazing.
Thank you.
W title and I haven't even pressed play.
Wow this is the first video of yours I’ve seen and your editing and narration is so clear and easy to follow and insightful! Subscribed!
Get Out is at home when mom says "We have The Skeleton Key at Home"
i love your channel so much. your voice is soooo soothing & the content is always great
I just rewatched Get Out last night. This is perfect timing.
Thank god this was not just a retelling of the movie….thanks for the knowledge.
enjoyed this video so much as always 💐💐💐
Another film that comes to mind is "The Invitation" (2022) a vampire related story which the podcast "Double Toasted" referred to as feeling like a "Get Out" knock off.
I love your videos so much and following you on letterboxd has been a treat!
the amount of parallels antebellum could've had regarding the difference between the modern world and the times of slavery and even a commentary on current slavery whether literal or metaphorical, but they didn't!
yeahh i always think about how the Boondocks portrayal BET still stands today. Even tho it’s a black studio they can still miss the mark on black stories and commentary. it’s kinda weird but the same can be said about tyler perry and some the films he’s made over the years 12:16
I think them is a very, very good series
I love when analysation videos randomly add a personal comment that’s so out of nowhere ‘I have this condition where I can’t stfu about scream’ 😭😭
A woman named Karen, who is a karen, played by a karen.
I only watched Them S2 as my gf’s family started it when I was there and I enjoyed it.
Another great video! Thanks for sharing your thoughts and perspective
The amazon prime show THEM really reminded me of get out aswell!
Engagement for the engagement god!
Brilliant analysis. Thanks for making this.
i knew everything you were gonna say with the title🫵🏻
Thanks for being awesome
Not to defend Antebellum but I didn't know anything about the movie before watching it and I thought it was set in the past. So when it was revealed 40min in that it was actually in the present and presenting who the character really was was a plot twist to me and I liked that. But I don't remember the movie vividly, it was just okay
I don't know shy that poloceman dropping the pizza a d running is do funny to me😂😂
Love the shade that Them gets
if someone told me an AI wrote karen, id believe it.
“I have this condition where I can’t stfu about Scream”
I have the same thing but with Saw.