Joe Rogan GRILLS CNN's Sanjay Gupta On Horse Dewormer Lies | Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2021
- Krystal and Saagar respond to the exchange between Joe Rogan and CNN doctor Sanjay Gupta about the lies being told by Gupta's network about 'horse dewormer' and the media's coverage of it.
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Hey everyone! We were going to release this on Friday but decided to do it today since its so timely. The normal show is uploaded as clips. Enjoy!
So what your saying is that your releasing it early because you saw The Hill running the same story?
Fine by me, Im glad both of ya'll are running this
Y'all focus on Joe Rogan too much. It's obvious you're playing to the algorithm.
Great news!
Important subject: why do authorities LIE?
Authoritarianism is spawed by the LIE.
People of the Lie, Dr. m.scott peck.
"People who lie know they are lying."
Are you planning to do a story on this disastrous $600 bank account transaction nonsense they’re trying to sneak through?
Joe Rogan just outperformed every journalist in 5 minutes. Absolutely wild.
Rogan did what everyone should be wanting from the press pool at the white house.
In 2019 I only knew JRE from my trumper in laws. A college student asked me if I’d ever listened and I said no, secretly horrified inside. Now I wish I could tell that student how much I listen to him!
Right?! Pretty unreal how the one person in media asking the most pressing questions is a comedian and MMA commentator.
Like, if you're running the newsrooms at ABC, NBC CBS, etc., how have you not fired EVERYBODY for doing a piss poor job compared to this guy?! People who went to high-priced journalism schools and whatnot, just mailing in absolute shit on a daily basis. How do you continue to employ this? How it is tolerated?
@@drkarenswrld It's always amazing to learn that the people with the strongest negative opinions of his show have never actually listened to a full episode themselves. See it all the time. They were simply indoctrinated by someone else's opinion and they're running with it, because that's someone on their 'team'.
They also don't understand that the majority of the time, the show isn't about him. It's about his guests, who are often subject matter experts and have a wealth of information to share. He's simply curious and asks good questions, so that we listeners learn as much as we can.
Do you think it’s journalism to promote drugs not proven to treat covid, and spread antivax propaganda? It’s not, it’s dumb bull shxt for dumb dumbs who get their news from podcasts.
I love how Joe countered the "that bothered you" with "it should bother YOU TOO" - Great comeback at his attempts to make Joe look too sensitive
Yes exactly me too > Gupta was so rude
yea - like most MDs thy over estimate their own intelligence and under rate the mental capacity of non doctors.
Rogan's no joke.
We’re passed the talking part. There’s no discussion to be had. It’s time for action and consequences. We don’t need discourse with these legacy media pundits. They’ve told too many lies to debate in good faith. They’re lying propagandists. They’re enemies of the people. They should be dragged out of their mansions and penthouses, and into the streets Gaddafi style. They should be made an example of. They never face consequences. They should pay with their lives in front of the entire western world. This is the only way that we can stop this. They will never change their ways until they know that there will be consequences. Heavy consequences. It’s time for a revolution against the mainstream media, and the corporations who own them. Same for our politicians. They need to pay with their lives for what they’ve done to this country over the last decade.
And this is why, if a strong man ever were to run for President, promising revenge and a clean up of the entire filth that is our government and our captured institutions, I’d vote for him no questions asked. I’d throw all of my principles to the wind for a chance to get violent revenge against the enemies of the people in media and politics. Trump was a joke. We need A.H. part 2. I don’t care if it ends in collapse and an authoritarian dictatorship. I just want revenge and justice, even if it means I have to suffer and die under the same tyranny. So long as my political enemies pay w their lives, I’ll take whatever else comes with that.
Gupta tried to gaslight Rogan. Rogan was unfazed.
Joe Rogan hit the perfect balance. He was respectful yet deliberate. It’s rare see someone driven into a corner like that in a conversation
thats normal for Joe.
The MMA practitioner mind at work, setting up the next two combinations from the current one.
Amazing what can be freely discussed over three hours, as opposed to a heavily controlled and regulated four minute interview squeezed in between commercial breaks.
Especially since dr. Gupta just seemed so utterly braindead. Guy just can’t understand logical reasoning, the part about childrens risk compared to his being over 50 is just a punch in the face to everyone with a few braincells left. „No, you‘re totally right but I will still say it’s wrong without giving any argument, and now plz force-inject these kids otherwise I‘ll lose my job as pharmaceutics advertiser“
I died when crystal was like, cnn isn’t platforming rogan, rogan is platforming cnn lol
Greetings my name is Lord teleportdinero
And thank you, Saagar, for recommending to listen to the whole podcast.
Best podcast in the world.
I loved this episode i took great pleasure in listening to the 3 hours while running. Health is priceless these clowns doctors are financial conflicted with helping people. Take the money out and see
@ozmartian neither uneducated people researching or doctors produce accurate information all of the time. In the case of CNN and Sanjay that are being referred to, yes uneducated people researching online can produce more accurate results than CNN. Is this always the case no. I think the most important lesson out of this is that we need more conversations like the one that is addressed through the dialogue that Joe and Sanjay had, as opposed to what can often be a biased msm pov. People end up searching for alternative sources because msm has so often been proved to provide inaccurate information.
Exactly, the whole thing is absolute quality
@@skysharksingh
So stop taking advice from medical experts and instead heed the advice of podcasters , on matters of health?
Why stop there, ? Next time you’re sick ask the plumber or the local butcher for their medical opinions.
By going on Rogan’s podcast Sanjay got way more viewers than he ever would on CNN!
Would enjoy seeing Rand Paul on Rogan's show.
I am thankful that he did this. This moves things forward. Conversation > censorship and bullying.
I hope he gets wrecked on all the Trump bootlicking he did dropping that fake populist schtick just like other Republicans. Truth is that Hawley and Paul are probably the biggest hypocrites because they did the fake populism more convincingly than Ted Cruise and Trump who everybody knew were faking all along
Lol maybe Doc should ask for a job!
@@aohemeng to be Joe's personal "Horse Dewormer" handler :D
Gupta: "That bothered you"
Joe: "It should bother you too"
Those are the words of a hero. CNN needs to be held accountable for the constant lying and smearing (and yes, it is every single day). I say this as a Democrat.
Gupta is a child “that bothered you hehehhehee” like it’s funny > so sick
They both work for their donors, which is the real problem.
Rogan is no hero because he is pushing Ivermectin over getting vaccinated and he has been playing more to the crazy right that listen to Hannity or Tucker.
@@MWhaleK he's not pushing ivermectin over it though. If you watch the podcast with Gupta, you will know this. Seriously, if you actually think that, you should watch the whole podcast instead of what I imagine were some clips you saw, because that's just not true.
@@MWhaleK this
Joe didn’t defend anti vax, he just defended why HE doesn’t want it.
True
Rogan: "I watched."
Gupta: "You watched?"
Rogan: "I watched."
Gupta: "Oh.(shits pants)"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
lmao CNNs viewership is so low he must have assumed that JR who have never watched it...
No, he was trying to say look everyone, joe rogan watches cnn.
Then proceeds to show receipt lmao
I rewound that like 4 times, u can hear his stomach drop
100% agree. This kind of discourse NEEDS to be on the mainstream, across all news networks and television.
Meh, the problem is most of the msm has an agenda and it's not the truth!!! Watch CNN and see how they deliberately do not cover very important stories and spin the news that they do cover.
what do you mean, rogan is as mainstream as they come and he hasn't stfu about the horse dewormer for months LOL
@@p.chuckmoralesesquire3965 getthefuck outta here, when Don lemon smokes dmt in the back studio with a guest then discusses the stoned ape theory then Joe is msm.
open debate/discussions are not aired on mainstream media as they have their own agenda it would seem, they are controlled by the powers that be, it’s just a puppet show.
It leaves a big question… What are they hiding? If nothing has been hidden why aren’t there open debates and discussions instead of shadow banning and silencing people that have a different navative to mainstream media
Sure more people are watching other platforms not under the claws of mainstream media, but the point is Mainstream media still continue their agenda and there are many people out there still believing what mainstream media tells them is true
@@Labbernese77 Weed is legal now Christian doing dmt isn't edgy any more, it's mainstream.
Yes, he was destroyed by Joe, but I really, really appreciate Sanjay Gupta for having the courage to take the hard questions. I'm a conservative from Oklahoma, and wish I could shake his hand and tell him thank you . We need more across the table conversations to heal this nation.
To paraphrase Catcher In The Rye... Sanjay is a gentleman and scholar and there aren't many of them left. But Joe is the only person who can get the media to tell the truth.
@@KentDagnall1 He's a scholar???? A gentleman????? The guy went on Don Lemon's show the next day, and started bullshitting again. This was all for show. Dude is a piece of shit. He acted one way on Joe's show, and then went back to work as if nothing ever happened.
@@yoyert6526 His employers put the squeeze on him. He's not willing to be depersonalized by his boss over this issue, because he has had access to truth and power that few people have. He's a gentleman and a scholar, but not a martyr. You don't have to worship Gupta to acknowledge that he's not the root of the problem, but also not the hero to save us from the corporate media beast that controls the narrative. Maybe you've never been in the position where you have to answer to an unreasonable boss before.
But he was trying to get a win, coming from a place of privilege he believed his network's portrayal of Rogan as an incompetent buffoon, and didn't know he'd end up having to protect himself from being canceled.
If you can't have some understanding sympathy for Guptas position, then you're no better than the leftist partisans who created this media environment. Dr Gupta was himself responsible for publicizing some of what we know about this Covid-19 debacle, think twice about who you wanna crucify.
Well said, and I concur. I also agree with the first 3 comments to your comment, and it's the conversation we should be able to have. It's time to go protest outside of doctor's offices, Hospitals, and especially Health Groups who make stupid protocols that reduce your chance of surviving to under 50%, and DENY any request for a protocol known to save lives around the 90% range. (quite likely higher, but no one has done the full protocol in a trial so they can't argue it yet) I was going to rip Saagar a new one, again, because of the things he said offhand about "joe's choices" he made with his doctor, but then I remember the ToS rules around here, and gave him the benefit of the doubt. I certainly hope Saagar can be more honest on some other platform, but i"m not seeing evidence of that anywhere.
However, in the NEXT video on this subject, where the Alligator Tear Lemon had the doctor on the the air, and grilled him in the reverse direction, and reverse he did, Saagar and Krystal committed the offense 3 more times. So I can not, and WILL NOT be silent. See breaking points next video about lemon for that comment where hopefully i can say what Saagar cannot, but I shall never let people with over half a million subscribers get away with not speaking the Truth, or at least not sharing in the big LIES coming from the Lame Stream Misanthropes
@@yoyert6526 He acted right in front of Joe because he didnt want to get his ass kicked.
Gupta underestimated Joe Rogan and didn’t do his homework.
Correct!
Gupta didn't argue it. He's not the owner of CNN. Joe is saying why didn't you ask CNN like a Karen asking why don't you ask your boss why the price is wrong on this rack. I think both talking was good but Joe is pretty hurt and it comes off in his conversation.
@@Saucey65 CNN hurts people with their lies.
It's not like an executive from CNN would come on.
Aren't you supposed to get the correct price when shopping?
yup and know everyone thinks joe rogan is smart
@@Saucey65 Gupta is the medical correspondent at CNN and really should be the one to inform them that ivermectin isn’t just a horse dewormer. Wouldn’t that be part of his job?
Is more people had discussions like this in front of large viewers, the world would be a better place.
Can't like this comment enough times.
People do NOT enjoy challenging their own established beliefs.
@@PFJung I want televised debate between Biden, Xi, and Putin with no restrictions and no 8 seconds delay... lol Now that would be Epic.... and world changing
Tbh I like the online setting bc it makes it more chill. Imagine doing it in front of a hundred people. I know I’d feel some weird pressure to “hold my ground” or something
Side stepping the question......why did CNN lie?
Gupta might be a decent guy and he may not represent everything that goes on at CNN, but he has been around long enough to know why CNN does what it does. He feigned ignorance when Joe asked him why, and that was disingenuous on his part.
Exactly. Who believes that the head medical guy at CNN didn't know what was said about Rogan?
How would he answer on why his employer does certain things? He isn’t a producer or executive. That question was rhetorical, bordering on asinine
he likes his pay fat check!
He is not a decent guy at all.
@Jason Johnson Data, quotes and facts, innuendo guy?
I, for one, am damned tired of giving passes to "nice guys" when they are caught lying to the public. A lie said with a smiling, pleasant face is just as harmful and wrong as a lie told with a scowl.
I’m more shocked that Joe Rogan is giving a platform to CNN on his show!
This clip was a perfect example of why Rogan's so popular. He really knows when to play nice and when to be aggressive in order to get the right response out of people.
... and then.... ruclips.net/video/rYZTN5NkxmQ/видео.html
He leads in finding stupid people enthralled with whatever tin foil hat crap is the most popular at the time! Flat earth, reptilian overlords, ... whatever will scam the most cash.
He's a very underrated interviewer. He often disarms his guests and gets them to say and do stuff they might not normally do, which is great for the listener/consumer.
One of the main reason Rogan is so popular is that he's full of shit on many issues and so is his audience.
Are you kidding me? He rarely pushes back. He only pushed back on this one because it was personal. He often just lets morons spout their bullshit while nodding his head and saying "Interesting" .
Good for Joe for calling CNN out
...and then... ruclips.net/video/rYZTN5NkxmQ/видео.html
Joe Rogan is one of the best interviewers that has ever happened. He starts these amazing, insightful conversations, and when people say ignorant things he lets them keep talking til they hang themselves with their own rope. And occasionally, when it's called for, he pins a guest against the wall until they tap out.
The guy has talent. He has the incredible ability to fully listen without interruptions, even though he may disagree. He is a great listener with no agenda. He is honest & like you said, brings up incredible points.
I like that guy. That's why he's the number 1 podcaster worldwide.
Joe prepared for this interview like it was a cage match. He executed his game plan perfectly.
wow. Rogan was forceful, but still polite and decent. This was a master's class in how to deal with someone being a weasel.
Yup this was prime Rogan. Turning back the clock like a bucs Tom Brady
Bullshit. If Rogan was half as forceful with the right wing scumbags he has on , then we would actually get to some truth.
If he ever applied the same standards of Bidens miscues to Traitor trumps wordsalads and dumbassery, perhaps he would get more respect.
@@hkone1051 that's a lie... all Joe rogan talked about for 4 years was Trumps mumbling...
@@hkone1051 I can tell you don’t actually listen to joes podcast. You just hear some sound bites and clips. Joe pushes just as hard on anyone that comes on his show when they say things he disagrees with or doesn’t make sense. Right left up down doesn’t matter. He doesn’t even support trump. He’s a Bernie supporter.
@@adamcramm He REALLY doesn't.
Can Joe Rogan singlehandedly take down the propaganda press? He's got the numbers. Go Joe.
With Valuetainment et. al. let us pray 🙏🏽
That is if he’s not controlled opposition… We can only hope.
@@jaredbrooks7219 Don't worry, Joe Rogan is just like many boomers : believing anything he reads on the web while being totally unable to judge the reliability of his sources. Just like most people following this channel.
When he’s pushing crap like ivermectin, I rather he stay in his lane
@@kensuke0 so how did he push it? He honestly disclosed the multipack of medications he took that included ivermectin.
The hit piece the CNN put out after this was hilarious because you could just see how uncomfortable Sanjay was.
“You’re the medical guy over there.”
No answer.
It was also so great to hear Joe rip CNN over Russiagate and alleged gas attacks in Syria. He needs to have Aaron Maté on, followed by Gabor.
We are at a time in society where mma commentators are better journalists than billion dollar "news" outlets
Cnn is Propaganda NOT news
@@kevindavid7149 add msnbc, fox News, Newsmax, et al.
@@beejjohnson9563 And new york times, washington post, nbc, cbs, abc, npr, pbs, et al.
@@beejjohnson9563 conservatives have like 2 channels. Democrats have 95% of media shilling for them. PLUS all entertainment/hollywood, academia, even sports shilling for them. Democrat propaganda is literally EVERYWHERE
Haven't watched the episode yet, but honestly, kudos to Sanjay Gupta for going on JRE. Mr. Science Fauci could probably do the same instead of complaining about misinformation. And hopefuly, people who don't watch Rogan will now realize that he is not some far right lunatic but normal open minded guy who has normal conversations with people he may agree or disagree in respectful manner.
That is what the elites and MSM are afraid of. Joe Rogan critically thinks and is authentic.
@@ginadean5696 exactly that's why I was really surprised to see that Gupta wanted to come.
Listen to today framing though... Gupta can't talk for 3 hours and selectively editing clips... funny to watch CNN squirm
@@ericjohnson5617 that's CNN, what do you expect. I don't watch them but I'm pretty sure they treat him like a hero returning from war against something very big and bad (and that is, of course, misinformation and its biggest purveyor).
fauci is busy doing goebbels level netflix propaganda films right now
Dr. Gupta: "They shouldn't have said that."
Me: "I noticed that you said 'they' instead of 'we'."
Zing
Good point.
“They” because it was other people. Is everyone at CNN responsible for everyone else at CNN? No ..
Sanjay didn't personally said that.
He wasn't even in the Broadcast.
Real shame here. Krystal called it Horse de-wormer too in a segment around the time Rogan took it.
People were taking horse dewormer though. If she wasn't specifically talking about Rogans case then she's in the clear.
$44m BUYS ALOT OF BIG LIES from KRYSTAL
@@MarkHicks326 What 44 million?
@@natecar1 that’s what she’s worth
@@notmyrealname6879 sounds decent. Do we know where she got the money from? Because it'd be a really fucking dumb idea to not invest in yourself when the only way you make money is through the whims of your viewers. If she made that money herself, or got it through small dollar donations, more credit to her. I do not see the problem with someone on the left having wealth. I have a problem with someone hoarding obscene amounts of wealth that have every intention of using that money to extract even more wealth from you.
"I can afford people medicine MF' Love that.
My biggest beef about the handling of covid is the lack of debate and conversation. Finally, one was had.
Its a bit ironic that Krystal has used the term "horse dewormer" on many past episodes in the same way that CNN did! Can you say hypocrite?
I may be mistaken, but I think she has exclusively used the expression and other similar pejoratives in reference to the ivermectin product you can purchase for livestock at Tractor Supply and similar stores.
@@PeteMD sounds like someone has a bias of their own…
Watch Krystal and Kyle if you love Pod Save America
@@dickeysgarage that's what cnn claimed too but whatever. Everyone's trying to pretend we know more than we do. Welcome to being a human. CNN and these fools just do it for money. Even if BP isn't as bad they still need checked to reality as much as anyone. At least for me to watch
@@PeteMD literally everyone is biased in their own way. Instead of gobbling up every word someone says, maybe gather their opinion, and relevant information, and formulate your own thoughts. Of course they're gonna filter the information through the lens of their life, you'd do the same fuckin thing!
Gupta's attempts at bobbing and weaving were just as hopelessly unsuccessful as deontay wilder's over the weekend lol
lol yeah the trained neurosurgeon is the one who was bobbing and weaving, the real expert here was Shmoe.
Gradually, I began to hate them.
It’s proof that he’s a collaborator / kapo.
Sanjay is the king of deflection. My god, it was sad. Keep saying we don’t know how long natural immunity last. Well smart guy we sure as hell don’t now how long the “vaccine” last when we are already talking about a damn booster
Joe vs Sanjay was like watching a BJJ black belt use 10% of their ability on a white belt on floor
Sanjay is smart and the fact he can’t say what is true immediately suggests he is a mouthpiece more than a physician, which degrades his reputation.
here is the top comment
He actually agreed and even added on - quite a lot of things Joe has been talking about the COVID19, Lab Leak and vaccination. He came across pretty honest.
I think CNN is a huge organization - getting mad at Sanjay for what they say - is like getting mad at the Comcast customer care rep for your slow internet connection. He/She can apologize but it’s almost never anything they did directly that caused the issue
On top of working at CNN
Sanjay Gupta all but admitted he’s a collaborator / kapo.
He talks about this more like a politician than a scientist/doctor in the full show.
where can I listen to the full podcast? what's the name of the episode on Joe Rogan experience
Nice to hear CNN getting called out for dishonesty and lack of integrity by Rogan, who has a HUGE audience. Hopefully, this will cause listeners to question more and dig deeper for the truth, instead of trusting all they hear from the media.
Yes, ALL media, w/no cherry-picking
No side gets a free pass and no label comes without its stains. Take each issue item by item and critique your leadership.
Agreed, taking each issue item by item is the most important part IMO.
It's irritating, because it's true. We have to look at every issue. Can't trust the government to look out for us.
Luckily media outlets like this exist that showcase both sides to issues so that the listeners can make up their own minds.
I'm a vegetarian and have now moved to referring to meat eaters as *dog food addicts.*
*PROVE ME WRONG, B Y O T C H U S !* 😁
@@dilloncrain9111 This isn't both sides of the issue. There are people actually pretending to own a horse, so that they can buy horse dewormer from a horse doctor. Joe's example is not every example. There are people who are against the vaccine, that are that dumb, that they will destroy their intestinal lining, just to avoid the potential health risks of an F.D.A. approved vaccine. But they will never talk about that side of the issue on this show, because they don't want to offend the dumb people who watch this show.
Where can i watch the full vid?
Link to the full video please
I laughed out load when Dr Gupta acted surprised that Joe actually watched a CNN video clip.
yes- that was ridiculous....how in the world could ANYONE think they wouldn't watch the way the media covered his diagnosis, ESPECIALLY if the person was being in mocked in the process.
No way Joe is going to watch this corporate trash . O shit 😳
He thought he was too busy 🤣🤣🤣
He probably sees their ratings and is surprised anyone saw anything
Joe Rogan just won journalist of the year, and he barely had to try
Did he?
In the eyes of the people, yes
Been looking for you guys on the Hill.
Remember that time CNN blackmailed a guy for making a .gif?
Didn't Krystal parrot these same lies, on y'all's show?
LOL!!
I believe she called it "Horse Paste"...
😂😅🤣
Sanjay Gupta is probably the most down to earth person at CNN. Nobody else would have said this there. And he is probably gonna face backlash internally
Nah he's probably not going to get any internal backlash because he was probably pressured to go on the JRE podcast by CNN to try to get Joe to slip up during their vaccine debate so that CNN could misquote Joe out of context and label him as an anti-vaxxer misinformer. I figure it's something similar to the Cuomo emerging out the basement stunt they forced him to do.
@@Olme that's was his idea
Good.
check out his cnn interview.................. disgusting stab in the back
That was a great conversation and I think these types of conversations are exactly what we need.
Great convo. We need more open REAL discussions like this.
"Trust the Doctors"
Well, I just saw a stoner comedian/ former mma fighter guy school a doctor.
If he's a doctor he's only a doctor of disinformation and nothing else.
@@dalewr38 relax, CNN deserves criticism, but we can’t blanket everyone over there as “evil.” we shouldn’t be like them. he doesn’t know why the network he works for lies, that’s relatable, the company o work for days stupid shit all the time, i’m sure most of ours do. ill give Gupta a break for at least acknowledging the best and being open to the conversation
@@dev_ilmoon sock puppet MEDIA suits you!
@@MarkHicks326 "sock puppet media" so cringe, you all talk like this in real life? You sound brainwashed, because i know you didn't come up with that geriatric home phrase.
"You watched?!"
Shocked that someone actually watched CNN.
Thanks so much, so grateful for your coverage
“What did they say?” lol 😂 CNN was like, “send gupta to butter him up.”
“You’re platforming Joe Rogan!” is something only being said by literal crazy people. I would almost guarantee the number of people who tuned in to see Gupta was way less than the number of people reminded that CNN still exists! CNN has so sullied itself with verifiable lies that only hyperpartisans can still watch. They’ve turned me off so much that I won’t even click links that might take me to their website. If happen to see one of their headlines and want to know the story, I’ll intentionally look elsewhere rather than even visit their site for one minute. They won’t be getting any ad revenue from me anytime soon!
CNN always was a warmongering bag of liars.
Same as FOX News.
Yes, the left sides FOX
Ditto, M M! I actually unfollowed CNN on RUclips, just after I saw that they were doing an hour long special on Kellyanne Conway. Pretending that all these people are enemies (Red VS Blue), then giving them all fawning media coverage. It’s all just drawing attention to bad-faith actors and serial liars.
Plus Anderson Cooper looking professionally concerned about what he’s being paid to read📺onscreen. It’s all a bad joke, and meant to keep viewers sad, angry, & anxious.
@@davidwork1539 If you think CNN is leftist, you don't know anything about CNN or leftism
M M you personally lie as often as CNN. Just cause you are an internet commenter with no audience doesn't make the lying less.
It's almost like having open conversations with opposing viewpoints is a good thing... Crazy.
Yeah if only more channels especially news ones, had actual debate instead of spin, and name calling we might realise that we're not really that different after all and most of us just want to live our lives
Anyone knows what minute this is on the full episode?
great piece. good job guys
Saw the podcast. I also noticed how he kept turning it around saying, "It sucks your feelings are hurt". But the point is clearly so much bigger than that.
Gupta has to toe the company line, but he also knows that Rogan is 100% correct on this. A medical commentator on CNN should have challenged the hosts who claimed that Rogan was taking "horse dewormer." A medical doctor should correct people who make that claim, especially since this is an award-winning medication regularly used for HUMANS. It's only common sense that Rogan went to the doctor and not Tractor Supply for his dose of ivermectin--so yeah, Gupta is culpable here.
I just listened to it, the guy seemed likable, seemed like Joe was trying to have him answer for decisions made by CNN.
The big thing which I got from it, was Joe asked him what was the difference between his feeling of safety after getting the shot 8 months ago, and a young healthy person not wanting a shot now. Or a parent not wanting the shot for their kid.
He didn’t seem to get the correlation.
@@carlg7190 False. Joe asked if he thought what his employers do is ok or not. He already knows exactly why they do it. We all do.
I couldn't give a rat's ass about Rogan's precious feelings. Not when he'll call out CNN like this, using his gigantic platform, and not call out Dan Crenshaw (R-TX) for effectively saying "suffering is good, don't bitch about your job, corporations don't owe you dick, and if you want to stop suffering, get a better life." Joe is about standing up for himself only.
@@nuclearsimian3281 “Effectively” saying? Lol
I love that he did what nobody has the balls to do and told him no when he tried to change the subject. He basically told him that he wasn't going to move on with the conversation until the question was answered. This is what we need from our journalists. Take note media, this is what real journalism looks like.
That went both ways
@@TangoNevada I'm confused by your 4 word response. What exactly were you try to say?
Gupta tried to run away and change the subject to save face, Joe was having none of it! Listen the entire podcast, it was glorious.
That part was very satisfying. And we do need more of these type of open conversations
As Always: "Looking for news in the corporate-media is like looking for love in a brothel.
Not saying it can't happen. Just that it comes at a price."
@@wtcguy28 Oh, I see what you were trying to do there ..
You mistakenly thought you were being clever .. that's kinda sad.
Sanjay Gupta knows where his paycheck comes from.
The new one from CNN is that they are saying not to do research for yourself because it will just confuse you. 🤔
They're not wrong about almost everything, they lie about almost everything.
I listened to the whole episode, it’s scary to listen Sanjay’s level of cognitive dissonance, yet it explains a lot.
You could tell that he has internal barriers erected against speaking freely and openly
Truly comes with the territory.
"Manufacturing Reality" - How Cable News' Propaganda Warps EVERYTHING
ruclips.net/video/P3jaWws9eGI/видео.html
I think Gupta believes what he is saying. It’s a way of thinking, perspective, training and grooming. He will follow the script.
I listened to the first 20-30 minutes, and couldn't bare his BS. Talking about his "electricity/cooling" guy, and how he wasn't vaccinated and lost his daughter a week before, and he was the first person he saw after her passing, and on her death bed, she begged her dad to get vaccinated. ARE YOU F****** KIDDING ME?
I watched that one. He was half bustin' balls while he was calling them out. Joe navigated that interview well, and Sanjay Gupta showed guts just for going on. He had to know that was coming.
He didn't know. He was obviously taken aback by it.
Nope. He is typically arrogant. Thought he was so much smarter than Joe.
Maybe, maybe not. His overlords at CNN probably told him Joe was just a dumb pothead comedian/MMA fighter and Sanjay could just "straighten him out" with corporate news talking points. When he got on the show Gupta discovered that Joe knew what he was talking about and he couldn't pull the wool over Joe's eyes. Sanjay (obviously an intelligent guy) resorted to the "Oh, you watched it?" line and played dumb a couple of times. Hence the op-ed the following day.
@@juliodyarzagaray I don't agree. He seems down to earth. On a shorter interview he would have managed to evade a lot of questions which is concerning. Also he was surprised by how much Joe knew about all the little details (I was myself surprised because all of those studies take a lot of time to research and understand)
But I wouldn't take his surprise for arrogance because he was not arrogant on the podcast at all.
Yeah but who wants to listen to 3hrs of anything? It’d get boring and annoying after 40 min. There’s things that I got going on, listening to JRE idiocy isn’t one of them
Joe Rogan is also not a conservative but he said everyone thinks he's a Trump supporter because he's bald.
"What did they say?" my ass! haha
Right after Brian Steltzer was trying to convince others He and CNN are real journalist doing real journalism 😂
CNN: Criminal Nonsense Network. Always has been, always will be.
Lets go Brandon!
That is weird because Brian is objectively not a journalist. He's a TV Anchor/correspondent. Cable outlets have journalists but they usually don't host shows
@@ericc3773 EXACTLY!
@@ericc3773 So what? Brian is hiding behind a convenient euphemism.
@@henrylicious Yeah, that is kinda how cable news works
There is a reason Gupta is just chuckling away like a nitwit. He is uncomfortable AF because he knows...
For sure, it's a tough spot to be called out. But I respect him for going on JRE.
You guys are crushing it this week! Great Stuff!!
Keep up the good work!
The CNN article he wrote about this mentions none of this. He makes it out like he schooled Joe
iT'S cHRIS cUOMO COMINg OUt OF hIs BUNKER aLL oVeR aGAIn
Saagar: "you are never going to see it"
I assume the thing we will never see is anyone from CNN going on Joe's show again. 😃
When Joe says "Jamie pull that up" you're about to get chocked out!!! 🤣
it's really weird you can't find this Joe Rogan interview clip anymore, I watched it once the day after and now I can't find it at all.
Sanjay never once convinced me during this talk. Joe kept puttning him in place and Sanjay kept studdering. He seems like a nice guy however.
If I ever wrote a book, it would be "SUPER SPREADERS : how the elites use propaganda to get GOOD, CARING people to further their insidious ideas."
A liar, you mean like every other person on planet earth? Lol
that speaks volumes about your ignorance of basic science.
So when Joe said the Majority of people hospitalized in Israel have all be vaccinated (To try to debunk that 90+ % of people in America being Hospitalized are unvaccinated), But Sanjay Said, well of course, that's because almost everyone in Israel has be vaccinated, so of course anyone hospitalized will likely have been vaccinated. You missed that part?
"He seems like a nice guy"....we gotta stop saying that crap when ppl are being dishonest and lying to us. Just stop with that. If you lie to my face, I don't care how nice you are about it.
i was JUST thinking that exact thing!!!! EVERYONE is nice the when you meet them and talk to them for 5 minutes. It definitely needs to stop as a way of describing people we truly do not know
@@SuperSuperdude88 This is what the moderates and right have said about the leftists for years and years and this is where we are. It's like they never learn. Sagaar is such a wuss.
What did Sanjay Gupta lie about?
@@mrlarvux lol
Why is Gupta responsible for the network calling it horse medication?
I loved every minute of this!!
Wish they would have talked specifically about the mandates.
Why?
@@joshwhite5407 the mandate is the real issue. Joe isn’t anti-vax, as he says, the problem is that they’re trying to force people to take it. They’re firing healthcare workers en masse. We can argue all day about efficacy and treatment options but the correct position is this: get the vaccine if you choose, but you should not be punished for choosing not to.
We’re passed the talking part. There’s no discussion to be had. It’s time for action and consequences. We don’t need discourse with these legacy media pundits. They’ve told too many lies to debate in good faith. They’re lying propagandists. They’re enemies of the people. They should be dragged out of their mansions and penthouses, and into the streets Gaddafi style. They should be made an example of. They never face consequences. They should pay with their lives in front of the entire western world. This is the only way that we can stop this. They will never change their ways until they know that there will be consequences. Heavy consequences. It’s time for a revolution against the mainstream media, and the corporations who own them. Same for our politicians. They need to pay with their lives for what they’ve done to this country over the last decade.
And this is why, if a strong man ever were to run for President, promising revenge and a clean up of the entire filth that is our government and our captured institutions, I’d vote for him no questions asked. I’d throw all of my principles to the wind for a chance to get violent revenge against the enemies of the people in media and politics. Trump was a joke. We need A.H. part 2. I don’t care if it ends in collapse and an authoritarian dictatorship. I just want revenge and justice, even if it means I have to suffer and die under the same tyranny. So long as my political enemies pay w their lives, I’ll take whatever else comes with that.
Breaking Points: We need more back & forth debate about vaccines in the media.
Why are Rand Paul’s debates not worth covering then???
Rand Paul's debates with who?
@@joea867 With Fauci, in front of congress. It’s on RUclips. He confronts Fauci about the gain of function research funding he was involved in.
because rand paul isnt credable. hes a shit eye doctor with too many years in congress to BE credable. Find someone else to do that debate and maybe it'll work.
@@rjframe4410 you may have just found a glaring weakness in the current gop
The Hill and Forbes Breaking news both regularly show clips. Rand Paul is a rock star.
good to see both of you again.
Originally media were meant to 'bring out the lies' not 'bring about the lies'
Don't forget Chris Cuomo's churlish laugh when he mentioned "horse de-wormer" on Don Lemon's show.
They HATE us.
No, they're mocking you. And you deserve it.
@@matthewcaldwell8100 it's okay, as much as you hate us, we hate you too.
@@SamuelDiaz21 Your inability to think critically about anti-vax conspiracism is not evidence of animus on my part, sorry.
they are just CIA presstitutes there to push propaganda. They are actors. We the people need to get that - and never forget it.
@@matthewcaldwell8100 where did Anderson Cooper intern?
Krystal and Saagar, YOU GUYS BOTH called Ivermectin horse dewormer and never retracted that mischaracterization. As an supporter and admirer of what you both stand for as outstanding journalists, I'm still disappointed that you did that and never retracted.
I scrolled way too far to find this. And yes I remember too. That's the reason I can't watch this anymore
Thankfully, you and others see their hypocrisy.
Yep they jumped on the "stop taking horse dewormer" train. Disappointing.
Yup, that's when I stopped watching regularly. The fact they were on the horse bandwagon was why I couldn't resist hearing their response to the podcast. Pathetic hacks. It just goes to show their agenda and confirmation bias is really no different than CNN's. They are grifters, simply controlled opposition for clicks.
Both of them have been surprisingly bad since leaving the Hill.
It was amazing and so much fun to watch.
This should be enough to never listen to mainstream media again
When I read Gupta’s piece I was shocked how he lies right of the bat. At the start of the pod Gupta makes it clear that he reached out to Joe to have him on and yet he frames his article the other way around. Joe calls CNN liars and Gupta goes on Erin’s show and lies about Joe inviting him.
He's not grilling him. Every doctor has a fiduciary responsibility that CNN doesn't.
I was looking for nuance in the video after reading this comment, but no my dude. He was definitely grilling him lol
Agreed. Joe's just salty he made himself look like an idiot. Ivermectin is most commonly a horse dewormer. 😂 They didn't say Joe took a horse dewormer. They said Joe took something used as a horse dewormer which is fucking true lol. And he took it because he was too dumb and political to get vaccinated. That's why Joe will never sue CNN, because he knows he doesn't have a case. If he did I guarantee Joe would sue. Joe loves money, he puts ads on Spotify for even the premium users. If Joe had a case on CNN he would've brought it.
@@Saucey65 Np one agrees with you comment.
@@VSM101 I've seen what makes you cheer. I'm fine not having your approval. 😂
@@Saucey65 to imply that they weren't doing that on purpose is a bit naive in my opinion and I'm pro vaccine. So either you are being disingenuous yourself, or just need to see the bigger picture.
I listened to the entire podcast. It was fantastic. We need more of these long-form honest conversations!
Preach
You said the key words..."HE'S A DOCTOR." He's required to tell the truth, and if your network does/says falsehoods and what you don't believe to be the truth, then you should quit working for that network. If you can't say NO, and ONLY worry about YOUR position with the elites, then you're in it for yourself and by definition, you're NOT a doctor. DO NO HARM!
Ivermectin is a Horse Dewormer. End of Debate. Joe did not take a same dose as a horse, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a Horse dewormer. That constant ranting on that point was just pointless.
@@TangoNevada By your logic, almost all medicines would be veterinary as all drugs are primarily tested on animals first. And Ivermectin was as LIVESTOCK anti-parasitic, which means MANY animals, not specifically horses. Since you've got the big brain, little history lesson for you. By 1986, Ivermectin had been given to over 320 million cattle, 151 million sheep, 21 million horses and 5.7 million pigs. So it's less a horse dewormer and more of an OTHER. So I'll see your "technicality" and raise you another equally useless "technicality." So there.
Medications commonly prescribed to both humans and pets include antibiotics like amoxicillin, antidepressants such as Prozac, pain medication like tramadol, various chemotherapy drugs, certain thyroid-control medications, and prednisone. So the next time your polish self needs an antibiotic, we'll be sure to call you out for the animal ass you are. Fair?
@@TangoNevada rat poison or as us cardiac nurses like to call Coumadin, is still rat poison by your definition and shouldn't be used to save millions of folks. Oh what about benadryl used for allergies in animals. This will really blow your mind, all those antibiotics you've taken, horse pills. Muscle relaxers, pain meds and even antidepressants all given to animals. If your argument is humans shouldn't take meds that animals take, we are going to see billions of dead people. But hey politics first, am I right?
Which is why we are WAY passed the talking part. There’s no discussion to be had. It’s time for action and consequences. We don’t need discourse with these legacy media pundits. They’ve told too many lies to debate in good faith. They’re lying propagandists. They’re enemies of the people. They should be dragged out of their mansions and penthouses, and into the streets Gaddafi style. They should be made an example of. They never face consequences. They should pay with their lives in front of the entire western world. This is the only way that we can stop this. They will never change their ways until they know that there will be consequences. Heavy consequences. It’s time for a revolution against the mainstream media, and the corporations who own them. Same for our politicians. They need to pay with their lives for what they’ve done to this country over the last decade.
And this is why, if a strong man ever were to run for President, promising revenge and a clean up of the entire filth that is our government and our captured institutions, I’d vote for him no questions asked. I’d throw all of my principles to the wind for a chance to get violent revenge against the enemies of the people in media and politics. Trump was a joke. We need A.H. part 2. I don’t care if it ends in collapse and an authoritarian dictatorship. I just want revenge and justice, even if it means I have to suffer and die under the same tyranny. So long as my political enemies pay w their lives, I’ll take whatever else comes with that.
@@bitcrafter It's all semantics morons.
I'm only disappointed the Podcast didn't discuss Mandates. Missed opportunity for Joe to press Sanjay on his opinions on Policy.
He was certainly pushing toward it. About an hour into the cast, Gupta says he doesn't "feel like he needs a booster" and that he's not at risk. Joe tried to get him to take that perspective and apply it to healthy young men and boys who are at almost no risk from covid. He asks repeatedly over about 15 minutes, "how is that different?" but Gupta isn't quite able to make the connection.
@@goodasmrshow7371 yeah I think it was deliberate blindness on Guptas part though, especially after CNN and him did an editing hack job the next day to try and save face making them look even more guilty of lies and agenda driven deceit
Thank you for watching all 3 hours before reporting! So much more than many other media coverages of this interview
Was there an actual video? Why not play that instead of just an audio?
That's interesting Krystal. Your monolougue a couple of days ago took aim at the use of Ivermectin. For the record..
The guy still is holding back on agreeing with Joe. You can see how he keeps trying to change the subject away from Joe
Don't be like other Media.. Provide the Links. Link to the podcast is missing.
and right after the podcast, Gupta went on CNN and they doubled down and repeated the lies. I hope Joe Sues.