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0:00 Promotional Info 0:05 This is ... 1:56 Can I borrow your car, pleeeeeeease? 2:02 Quirks & Features 14:48 The Drive 18:53 Conclusion 19:15 Doug Score
I sincerely hope swipe switches and capacitive buttons are a short-lived aberation in auto interior design. They improve absolutely nothing, merely frustrating and confusing the driver, who also has to take their eyes off the road to operate them successfully.
I just got done ranting about this same thing in my own comment. These decisions must be made by people who don't drive. Who else would think this garbage is a good idea?
@@MandusahRamirez You’re gonna be hoping for the rest of your life because most Automakers have plans to sell exclusively hybrid and electrical vehicles by 2035…
@@eljefeamericano4308 I can promise you EVs are going nowhere but, it's not all bad news. Some of the quickest vehicles in the world are EVs. The McLaren P1, Porsche 918 and La Ferrari are all extraordinarily impressive hybrid supercars each with roughly 900 to 1000 BHP. The Lucid Air Sapphire having 1200 BHP from it's top model and will do 0 to 60 in 2 seconds, Tesla Model S, 1020 BHP, 0 to 60 in 1.99 seconds. Moving from electric for a second, the Newer Ford GT is powered by a twin turbo V6 that makes 660 BHP but is so light and they raced it at Le Mon and it blitzed it using an engine that shares over half of it's components with that of a Ford F-150's. Continuing with Ford, the F-150 lightning is brilliant and because Ford insisted the EPA test it with a 1000lb slab of concrete in the bed when measuring range so in the real world it actually gets close to 400 miles on a charge and can power a standard home for up to 3 days straight. The people I know that dislike EVs have never driven a fun one and they're usually old Boomers who don't like change and think Climate change is a hoax despite 99.9 % of climate scientists worldwide agree that human activity is responsible for the current ultra accelerated time frame as yes the climate has changed multiple times in the 3.6 billion years the earth has existed, only now.. instead of occuring over tens to hundreds and even a thousand Millenia, it's happening rapidly over a period of decades and even yesrs which can cause cataclysmic collapse as there are several of what are called tipping points like the large Antarctic Glacier that if it were to fall into the ocean, would cause sea levels to rise 10 feet in a matter of minutes and continue to rise as that super Glacier Melts. Coastline property would be worst effected in the southern hemisphere but eventually make it's way up north.... And despite what that Mickey Mouse sounding douche bag Ben Shapiro says, you can't just sell your house and move because one, you likely couldn't in the first place due to rising intre rates and the insane housing market and two.. your house would be likely permanently submerged underwater. Not even mentioning a similar cataclysm glacier in Greenland that would screw the Eastern Seaboard... Oh and then there's Jair Bolsonaro who has nearly completely turned the world largest carbon sync basically into a net positive carbon producer... Like have people not noticed that the words, “a once in a decade” or “once in a century storm” have become normal on weather broadcasts with the same happening with droughts. They are lasting longer and longer, making it increasingly difficult to grow crops, then it will be another once in a whater storm that lasts days to weeks the ruin most crops that survive such heavy drought... Like I get Boomers, other old people snd just straight up dumb people don't care because to them if it's not affecting them right now.. they don't care, yet its that group that has the audacity to say your generation just wants instant gratification, if I'm in a drive through window maybe but, when it comes to the Earth we think long term because we are the ones that are going to have to live in your old ass's Cyberpunk Hell scape.. Petroleum Is a terrible fuel, it's dirty, it requires a complex and dangerous infrastructure network to keep the supply coming *cough* Exxon Valdez * cough* Blue water horizon... Where electricity can be generated much more efficiently in a power plant to create energy to charge an EV which is why most EVs get the equivalent of 70+mpge equivalent. And battery power is not the only way to power them. Hydrogen and Hydrogen fuel cells are incredibly powerful, hell you can even mod a combustion engine to run on hydrogen gas and the only waste product is water. I'm in my 20s so I would quite like to not have a world ending event occur in my lifetime.. or at all and people really need to re-educate themselves on fission nuclear energy and how safe, green and effective it is. The Chernobyl disaster was caused by the RBMK reactor being 1. Of cheap Soviet design that used uranium-235 that had only been enriched to 40% combined with the mock test that was being done at the time being handled by people not fully familiar with the equipment, Fukushima which used a Westinghouse reactor had a steam and hydrogen explosion as the fuel rods melted because when the tsunami hit, The geniuses that built the place decided it was a good idea to put the backup generators in the basement and 3 Mile Island wasn't really a big disaster considering that the other reactor there kept producing energy up until last year. France is currently reactivating most of its nuclear power plants and Gernam is delaying closing theirs to deal with no longer purchasing Russian fuel, German. People have this huge misconception that nuclear energy is inherently dangerous and it's not, You have to purposely mess it up for it to become dangerous. Modern western reactors or pressurized water reactors are designed to fail safe meaning that if there is a problem it does not require the intervention of a single person to scram the reactor and lower the control rods to stop the reaction. Oh but what about nuclear waste I hear you asking. Chances are if you live even remotely near a nuclear power plant you're also living near nuclear waste as spent fuel rods are placed in cooling pools right inside the nuclear facility until they're cool enough to be placed in casks where they are combined with concrete silica and other materials to prevent them from reacting, heating up and going critical. They're also placed in these boxes that are so indestructible that there is actually video demonstrations of them being hit by fully laden trains and being completely fine and one has never ruptured and created a nuclear waste incident. Again nuclear waste is not green glowing liquid. It's the silvery metal uranium 235 and 238 (depleted uranium) as well as uranium's daughter isotopes like thorium. Thorium by the way was being sold online in multiple stores on Amazon as bracelets infused with it to increase "negative ions" I $hit u not" And although the popular joke is fusion is always 50 years away, that annoying joke may soon be coming to an end as ITER or international Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor is being built in south France and Will be the largest TokaMac fusion reactor on the planet. China, the EU, India, Russia, and the United States. And because, unlike fission reactors where it's isotopes are dangerously and can be used to create nuclear bombs if properly enriched or at least dirty bombs and can melt down Catastrophic conditions, if there is a failure in a fusion reactor it's simply Is the reaction stops, It also produces basically no long lasting radiation waste, at least in comparison how much possible energy it could output compared to fission reactors. Just imagine this for a second, The United States moves all of its energy efforts to solar, wind, biodiesel, solar mirror concentrators, battery and other storage technology, safe nuclear fission, geothermal energy, hydroelectric dams, introducing strong subsidies so that people are incentivized to put solar panels on their house so that although the electrical grid desperately needs to be upgraded as doing so would likely increase efficiency by 30% as well as creating microgrids with neighborhoods with solar panels and battery storage devices. Tidal and wave power And people more qualify than me that have done the calculations that have said if we did so, meeting our energy needs would be easily met by the small amount of fossil fuel we would have to extract from the ground on US soil and/or natural gas, making us completely energy independent and perhaps including Canada in on this as it would be a mutually beneficial agreement. That means no more wars over oil, No more cowtailing to countries like Saudi Arabia that murder United States journalist And then use a bone saw to chop them into pieces. What I am proposing is not out of the realm of possibility or even something that could only happen far in the future. I'm talking 10 to 20 years max if we wake up and realize we are on borrowed time and if there was a miracle and a majority of the United States citizens agreed on something it would take much less time. And if God willing We crack fusion, That would literally mean the biggest change for good in humanity since penicillin, antibiotics, basically all medicines, the internet, cars and the interstates and roads on which we drive them, passenger planes, trains... Basically any advancements humanity had made thus far would be completely dwarfed by what would now be a clean and practically limitless power supply that could power rockets that could travel at a small percentage of c (the speed of light Energy = Mass x the speed of light²) or E=MC². That would quickly make us a multi planetary species no longer needing to fight for resources or worry about climate change as fusion is clean energy and food production would become easy as we could do it basically anywhere given the energy. So if you're one of those people sitting there reading this comment and you've gotten this far... And you think rolling coal is funny despite the fact that it's basically the equivalent of a magic trick a 5-year-old just learned and won't stop doing while simultaneously pointing out to everyone else on the road that you are definitely not secure in your masculinity) American trucks are now bigger than the tanks we used to win WW2. I get if you need to haul things, The time to act is now…. Hell, yesterday
That's why the F-150 Lightning is sold out into next year. It's an F-150, the best-selling vehicle in North America, and it just happens to be electric.
Exactly right. Some Audi buyers don’t want a crazy electric car with an Audi badge. They just want an Audi, but electric. This won’t scare those buyers away in the showroom.
I don't know anybody who wants that. Not having to put an engine under a hood has the potential to change a lot of things for the better, and this fails at it.
I just noticed how relaxing and familiar it is to hear Doug rattling off information about quirks and features. I first found your channel after the youtube algorithm insisted back in 2017. I was like why is my suggested full of this seemingly random tall dude talking about cars. He had about 700k subs I think. After the the auto-play started up one of his videos finally (normally I have it off so it was just fate I guess that I had turned it on for some reason) and I never looked back. Thank you for the consistency over the years Doug. You got us through the pandemic, we really owe you one for that. Please dont stop any time soon man, and as everyone else seems to mention, please don't stop reviewing all the weird older stuff, or the exotic cool stuff, your variety and timing is just right. Even though Im a few years older, I shall refer to you as Uncle Doug now, you feel like that one uncle or cousin that's really good at telling stories and always fun to listen to at family gatherings.
@@Russell85 This is for someone transitioning from gas car to electric that still want that gas feel. The ride in this is so much more natural than Tesla. Tesla also has interior build quality issues and feels very cheap. It’s not just about KM range for everybody.
This car is great because it's getting more in line with what pricing should be and it's actually a normal car. The problem w/ electric cars is we're still in the early phases of the tech so everyone is trying to pack in every feature possible and then charge a fortune for it. They won't become totally mainstream and replace regular cars until we get back to what a regular car should be and they're actually affordable. The model Y was supposed to be cheap like the model 3 but neither actually is.
They cant become more affordable when the materials are in more demand and becoming scarcer. Costs will only rise, which they just did. Big hikes on a number of new EVs
So much baloney from people who do not own EVS. I have a taycan and a Hyundai ionic. Colorado to California drive with just normal stops. Solar panels on the roof of the house that pay for the normal driving electricity. The ionic was about the same price as an average car. And such a great car. Way better performance than gas. Oil companies and gas cars are dead.
Nice balanced review actually. We got one last year and it's a solid car, nothing crazy, good all rounder with a decent range and finish. The lack of OTA updates is pretty annoying to be honest as the software is very quirky (in a bad way!).
For me the car is faaaarr to expensive to compete with tesla. (I am talking for EU market) Sticker price with the best engine is about 68'000$ thats with standart equipment. With all the cool stuff like 4 zone climate better ambient lightning etc etc. We are talking round about 90k-100k. Thats hella expensive for a middle class ev suv.
I’ve had mine for 10 months and 10k miles and I’m loving it. I have a 40 S-Line which is rwd. It’s not outstanding in any area, but it has a great mixture of abilities and price. My real world range was around 230 miles at 30F, but I’ve managed 290+ miles (driven, not estimated, I’ve posted a video lol) on a charge. Audi haven’t gone for quirky - they’ve made an Audi that’s electric, which is probably what they need to get people to switch from A4s/Q3s. 🏴
@@NO3V it’s my first Audi, but I don’t find the material quality any waited than the BMW F10 I had before. With the exception of the damn piano black which permanently looks like some sort of crime scene 😂 (I’ve ranted about that in a couple of videos lol)
@@NO3V the other thing I’d say is that mine was £47k so under $50k and the monthly payments were identical to an ID4 (slightly better spec). At £65k for top spec versions over here I’d be tempted to get a Model Y instead.
I asked before I watched the video. After seeing Doug talk about the "luxory" interior I am starting to wonder if the US version is different than the German one. Because that is pretty bad - even compared to a (German built) Tesla Model Y.
@@edinreviews Yeah. It's certainly more affordable. But the Tesla seems better value - you just get _much_ more while paying _a bit_ more - but that fact doesn't matter if you can't or won't stretch the budget.
I've seen a few of these around here on the Autobahn in Germany in recent Weeks, definitely interested in finding out about all of it's Quirks and Features as only Doug can explain!
but.. but.. you're in Germany in Audi homeland, yet you're looking forward to some american (no disrespect) reviewing your own (german) cars. Come on people, snap out of it! It's like me waiting for some youtuber from India to review a Dacia! (me being from Romania). Also, as far as I know, all these manufacturers have factories in the US/Mexico and quality often differs from the european ones (made in Germany).
@@jbmcdoogle It's because there are some strict regulations about indicators in the US which don't exist in Europe in this form. That's why you often see this amazing indicator design on european streets.
@@windhoff1417 I know about old US light regulations that insist on having so many sq inches of light, etc BUT Audi could eliminate that by doing away with the dynamic light and replace it with a static amber flash. Look at Tesla's Model Y or Model X. Or Volvo's new C40. The combo static brake light and streaming blinker looks incredibly stupid.
The Q4 is not «based on» the ID.4. They both (as Skoda Enyaq, ID.3, Cupra Born etc) share the same MEB platform which is modular and can be used as they please. Many of the parts are the same (DU, ECMs etc) but they are not based of each other.
Excellent review as always Doug. Just a note as more cars go EV - since there isn't nearly as much to talk about in the powertrain (displacement, cylinder count, turbo or not, etc. etc.) discussion on the battery architecture is really important. Is this a 400v system or 800v? What's it's maximum power acceptance (50, 150, or 250 kWh? or more?) during charging? What's the motor split, not just combined power? Does it disconnect the front or rear motor to lessen parasitic draw? Many EV reviews now just copy what the company says ("5%-80% in 38 minutes!!!") but without any background on if that's possible or what the caveats would be.
I think Audi's EVs need to be praised for their design. Very classy, elegant, luxurious, sporty and futuristic without crossing the line too much as many other brands do so with their electric cars. Truly brilliant👏🏻
The inability to get out of the car without it turning off was a big detractor to the ID.4 for me. I ended up selling mine after a year because there were just too many quirks and I couldn't justify such a high car payment for a car that mostly just annoyed me.
What other quirks led you to selling it? I generally like the car but honestly it’s just a little boring for my taste. Especially for a mid $50-60k car once you start optioning it. I really like Audi’s sedans but all their crossovers and SUV are really starting to blend together nowadays
Honestly, I am not much of an Audi fan, but this is a nice SUV, and it isn't over done like a lot of newer EVs. I like that the swipe switches can also be used as buttons as swiping up and down and can be annoying, but they did it right here.
Test drove a 2023 model today. Was a really smooth ride. Quiet interior while driving, great visibility, and it controlled well. Reserved a 2024 model.
As far as luxury EV "suvs" this one is pretty good. Nice styling, easy to use interior tech, excellent german build quality, decent range, and relatively affordable compared to others. I'd definitely put this on my short list.
As a 42 year old who has worked in technical fields my whole life, a PC junkie, and general tech geek: I hate these new EV interiors. I just want a normal shifter, a normal volume knob, and exclusive climate control. Why is that so hard to ask for in these new interiors? You can get funky with design and add tech without making it so alienating to current drivers... I guess I finally am the old man now.
I'm between you two in age, but I agree all the same. I just want dedicated, manual controls with some sort of tactile feedback. Guess if this is truly going to be the future of automotive interiors, I'll save a lot of money by buying older and older used cars.
I think the exterior styling is a bit boring but the interior is nice! Bit bland but I like the mix of screens and manual buttons/imputs. Hate how many cars have completley ditched traditional switches and dials.
I kinda get the blandness of the design This car doesn't scream "Electric Car" it just looks like another Audi SUV. People might be interested in that.
I was surprised to see Audi did not cover the door frame on the interior with anything. The paint being seen from inside really makes the vehicle look cheaper imo.
I currently have a Tesla Model Y but can’t lie I have gotten bored of it and find myself wishing for an Audi SUV or Ford pickup. So happy to see so many new EV options, will definitely trade my Y when I’m ready!
A channel called technology connections did a video a number of years ago basically saying manufacturers should use the seat pressure switches as deadman switches. I like that Audi did this, very smart
15:45 this has been true of most every Audi from the 90s forward. It’s always a very nice, higher end Volkswagen. I would save the money and buy the Volkswagen, frankly. But that’s just me.
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It's a nice car. I'd easily go for it over the ID4. I love the HUD. But I am not a fan of Audi's current cluttered million-cutline interiors. The reality is, this has to be cheaper than the Model Y because the Tesla offers a better overall range/performance/tech package.
But the Audi is a premium manufacturer and the Tesla is not. The building quality of the Tesla cars are far away from the european premiums (bmw,audi,mercedes,porsche etc ...).
@@Pr0nStYle adequate brakes? What? Have you seen any comparison of a model Y to comparable mid-sized EVs? It performs the exact same if not better than anything in its class. The rest are pretty minor things tbh. I’ve never once bought a car for an “HUD” or service. I’d much rather buy for things like tech, range, performance, efficiency, charging speed etc. that you actually use on a regular basis. The real advantages of the Q4 is build quality and materials used. The ones you mentioned are pretty inconsequential to most buyers
I’m a new sub, and I have to tell u after watching a bunch of videos, u remind me of Quentin Tarantino. The height and ur mannerisms and voice sound exactly like him!! Love all videos. So ur basically the Quentin Tarantino of the car world!!!
I can’t figure out if this offers ventilated front seats or not, & I hope it does bc I really like it! It’s way more distinctive than the Q3, Q5, & Q7. The Q8 has a very distinctive shape, but it’s very expensive once I configure a Premium Plus or Prestige trim with the options & features my family & I would want. The Q5 & Q7 are already pretty common
Drove the Q4, MB EBQ, VW ID4 & LexusRZ all electric vehicles. The Lexus was my fav but couldn't get past the looks (those horns projecting out the back are weird). Bought the Q4 (from Carlsbad) - thanks for the review Doug. I guess you'll be seeing a couple more of our vehicles going on C&Bs.
That range is really gonna hurt them, especially in areas where it gets colder. Having a 3 in the Chicago area in the winter with the cold it really does impact the range significantly. In the cold months take that range and subtract probably 30-40%. It’s not good enough, especially for a brand like Audi. That range is like early Model S and X ranges from a decade ago. It’s time for them to get serious about that number.
I have an ID.4 with the same dual-motor, extended battery setup (I also have a top-spec Mach-E). Like all batteries, it loses range in the winter, but unlike my friends’ Teslas, both cars get their actual quoted figures. In fact, the Mach-E gets it’s full 270 miles averaging 65 mph on interstate roadtrips (80 mph cruise, plus slow-downs, etc). Because the starting points use different math, the effect you may be experiencing as a Telsa owneer isn’t quite the same as those using the more conservative EPA math.
@@Cincy32 In what way? They are faster, need less maintenance, and are cheaper to fuel. Many electric cars are the best cars on the road. If you look at how long we have been mass producing modern electric cars vs gas cars it will be staggering how much better they are in a few years.
@@paulelledge8977 Surveillance, remote control, pricing out the poor/working classes, unreliability in extreme weather, still unaddressed safety issues, infrastructure, charge times, etc., etc.
If this is the future for Audi, I won't be buying one. Capacitive touch has no business in a car. I can feel buttons without looking at them so I know what button I'm pressing while looking at the road. Also I'm wondering how Doug was able to review this car given the power situation in Cali.
Remember these cars are designed a couple years ago an are just coming out. By the time Audi an other manufacturers see people dislike for captive touch buttons an they stop putting them in new cars. Those cars wont actually come out for a couple years.
Same here. I'm generally pretty unimpressed with most of their newest offerings. Don't like the direction they've gone with styling, and I feel like the interiors look cheaper than they used to.
@@Tonyx.yt. Q4 etron consumption : 17kwh/100km Model Y consumption : 16.9kwh/100km The q4 Etron also has a larger battery, a way better interior and none of the quality issues
Damn i drive a 2005 Acura, so It hadn't crossed my mind before until you were talking about the grill area of the car, but imagine rear ending someone and destroying that adaptive cruise radar/sensor. I bet that would be a bit pricey.
First thing that goes out, even a small bump/hit to the bumper cover or wherever the sensor is located and it'll go out of calibration... not cheap lol
I guess that answers the question: Would you buy the Q4 Etron over a Model Y if the prices were the same? No. No, you would definitely by a Model Y. And in 2023 the prices will essentially be the same since the Model Y will have a Federal Tax rebate, and the Q4 won't. In my state, that rebate is $10k. If they start making the Q4 in the USA, then I'd definitely by it over the Tesla Model Y.
Did anyone else notice that Doug said "Use the description in the link below" instead of - use the link in the description below. He's working too hard. He needs a vacation or at least a trip to Nantucket. Great video as always.
Up here north of the border, the Q4 eTron is $59,950. The Model Y is EIGHT FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS!! This is an absolute no brainer for me....and we own a Model 3. There is absolutely no chance I'd pay a $25,000 premium for the Model Y. Oh, and FSD here in Canada is now $19,500 while 'enhanced AP' is $7,800.
FSD is now $15k USD and Enhanced is $6k 😑 I have a standard range 2021 model Y but now that I think about it, I should take the positive equity and maybe look into a brand new Audi 🤔
@@shadyj4231 yeah, I’m thinking the same. We could sell our 3 for more than what we paid new right now and buy a replacement and an oil field, and a refinery to make our own gas!
Cool little SUV, could get this over the tesla y given the price. like the gauge cluster screen. Cool futuristic features. But it has a short range :/ and I'm skeptical how all those touch surfaces and software will hold up over time given Audi reliability. That really gets me thinking about how all these new electric/hybrid cars are holding up 5-10 years down the road. No pun intended.
You post as though you're both an expert on cars (which you're not) and that people would be remotely interested in your personal opinions (which they are not). This isn't your channel get over yourself
@@slowery43 I am in no way saying I’m an expert. I like to learn about new cars and I was seriously considering purchasing a new suv in this class. Doug generally has unbiased videos where I can learn and formulate my own “score” or whatever you’d like to call it if on your hunt for a new vehicle.
We drove a 2022 Q4 Etron sports back and couldn’t wait to get rid of it. For the price, I have not much positive to say about this car. We now have a 2018 model S and we love this car sooo much more.
The one thing about the low 300 mile range even is that when the battery gets weaker over the years, that means that the range it offers will go down more (if not quicker) and batteries are not cheap to replace or fix.
Why do people assume that new electric vehicles mean competing with tesla or taking sales from tesla when in reality this will take sales for ICE Audis instead
@@nolanhitchens ah ok. I’ve got a Q4 and as soon as you press the brake and select D it’s good to go, doesn’t take any longer than putting a traditional auto into D
Oh wow I'm early (I finally understand why people send this lol) You probably won't see this, but have a good day Doug! I've been a follower for years, and you really built my passion and taste in cars! I love your commitment and the doug score chart shows the massive dataset you've made over the years, evidence of all your experiences! I'd love to meet you with a cool car someday if I ever move to the US.
At the beginning when he said the Model Y was $68k I said no its not its like $50k and some change. I looked it up and holy shit did the price go up. Plus the Autopilot that used to be included is now $6,000 and FSD that used to be $10,000 is $15,000. The lithium demand is starting to get to Tesla isn't it. "Oh but there's plenty of lithium". Yeah right.
It’s all a scam to crush us into submission. Even if you could afford these cars, you won’t be able to charge them up, soon. So it won’t matter. But hey the government will take care of you! Why work?!
@@Josh-179 Its also great that in order for someone to own an EV in a way that makes sense you have to charge it at home. With the rising housing costs the EV future sure looks bright. I mean if you rent an apartment or townhouse you can gtfo but for the upper middle class suburbanites its awesome.
Agreed. I’ve always thought it looked awful from photos. Seemed really lop-sided and asymmetrical. I hated it. But then I actually got to sit inside one in person at a dealership, I was actually surprised at how futuristic and edgy it looked. Looks A LOT nicer in person for sure.
When comparing EV range, it is important to note that Tesla overstates range while Audi and almost all other EVs tend to understate range. EPA testing has too much variation and is not close to “real world”, but Tesla lives the over promise, under deliver life.
Been wondering this for a while but your ProClip sponsor brings it to the top of my mind. Why don't car makers integrate good places for phone mounts? Yeah they have some wireless charging sometimes but they're often not usable when in those places.
That's the point. The phone should not be utilized when you are driving. Android auto link your phone to your car and provide functionality that is still safe while driving.
That is an odd decision indeed... I thought only the most basic econoboxes still used drum brakes. On the plus side, drums don't wear out nearly as quickly as disc brakes and are a lot less expensive to replace when they do but it's still strange to see drums on a car like this
The review of the interior is okay 👍🏼, but as a driver I don’t spend much time looking at the rear red lights. Please more on the driving, regeneration modes, various cameras and how smart the control program is.
I remember in college when new cars were 30k (2008) i bought 2 like that in my early 20s. Now that we make more and can get cool shit, blows my mind how easy it is for a family to have 2x 50-60k cars in the driveway. Such a diminishing asset too but yet we love em I always wanted to buy some rare 100k cars and flip them. Put a few miles on em and always have a 100k car for yourself (for free)
You didn't show what's underneath the trunk floor. Tesla's storage there is massive and worth mentioning. EV's should have a lot of space there, since there's no exhaust system.
Remarkable that the Model Y is so much more expensive in the US - in the EU the Audi starts a bit cheaper but the AWD model with 300hp is pretty much the same price as the Tesla and gets way more expensive if you get the sportback with all the accessories.
What has stolen a lot of room out of vehicles is them pulling the engine further back into the vehicles. Pop a hood on any car and there’s a foot and a half from the grill to the engine itself. Like the old 70s vans with the motor half way into the cab. Also makes dashboards about two feet deep on most cars too. I’m not a fan of modern cars. I’m amazed Doug is as tall as he is. Most cars, even full size trucks are designed for people under six feet tall.
Doug missed the best feature differentiating this from the id4: real climate controls. Buttons even. Illuminated. God bless Audi for getting something right in this interior. Although I’m not at all a fan of this new volume “thing”. The knob worked better.
I suppose Doug is consistent, so those of us who know, know, but the continuous use of the Tesla range figures in his comparison is a big blind spot for his EV reviews. Yes, the e-tron/ID.4 range spec of 240 seems considerably lower than the Model Y’s 318, but multiple outlets, reviewers, and testers have shown that the different (and perfectly legal) EPA maths that the various manufacturers use are terrible for spec-sheet comparison. In reality, it has been shown that real world ranges between those two/three cars is remarkably similar, some even indicating a slight edge in combined driving to the Audi/VW pair. There are still big EV-specific comparisons to be discussed, whether native charging technology, front trunks, or self-driving tech (though the recent Tesla price increase makes that less favorable), but there simply is not a massive (if any) gap in range for this class of family-friendly pseudo-SUV EV.
Also, real world range estimates are all laughably inflated. I drove a Chevy Bolt for several years and it had an estimated range of about 300 miles, and I generally got about 280 miles. Not too bad, considering I'm mostly highway driving. But the problem is, the thing was undriveable in even moderate rain. The low rolling resistance tires used to obtain those numbers would hydroplane at about 50mph if there was even a hint of standing water on the road. I'd regularly peel out if I stopped with my front tires on a painted section of road. Heaven help me if I ever needed to emergency brake -- I can't imagine how pathetic the braking distance was. All that is to say, once I put some decent tires on it, my real world range dropped to about 20-220 miles. It's the EV industry's dirty little secret.
@@bvoyelr That sounds very specific to the Bolt, based on my ownership experience with three other EVs. That said, I also owned a 2005 Civic that was TERRIBLE in heavy rain and any kind of snow. It just floated. All that to say, I think that kind of driving characteristic has less to do with EVs specifically and more to do with other tire/wheel size decisions made by the manufacturer for any number of reasons.
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get da bag Doug, you're nearing towards your Carrera GT goal!
We know when RUclips is going downhill when even Doug has ads in his videos. RUclips Premium becomes such a waste when it's more profitable for RUclips creators to put ads in their videos than to rely on RUclips ad revenue.
@@RichardCollette42 I don't blame him. RUclips is really going downhill.
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Doug left out "cars and bids" felt kinda empty
Ferrari just made an SUV I bet he already knows about it let's being him to review it
I sincerely hope swipe switches and capacitive buttons are a short-lived aberation in auto interior design. They improve absolutely nothing, merely frustrating and confusing the driver, who also has to take their eyes off the road to operate them successfully.
I just got done ranting about this same thing in my own comment. These decisions must be made by people who don't drive. Who else would think this garbage is a good idea?
I will say swipe controls are probably better than touch buttons tho
Just like I hope EVs are short lived🤞🏽
@@MandusahRamirez You’re gonna be hoping for the rest of your life because most Automakers have plans to sell exclusively hybrid and electrical vehicles by 2035…
@@eljefeamericano4308 I can promise you EVs are going nowhere but, it's not all bad news. Some of the quickest vehicles in the world are EVs. The McLaren P1, Porsche 918 and La Ferrari are all extraordinarily impressive hybrid supercars each with roughly 900 to 1000 BHP. The Lucid Air Sapphire having 1200 BHP from it's top model and will do 0 to 60 in 2 seconds, Tesla Model S, 1020 BHP, 0 to 60 in 1.99 seconds. Moving from electric for a second, the Newer Ford GT is powered by a twin turbo V6 that makes 660 BHP but is so light and they raced it at Le Mon and it blitzed it using an engine that shares over half of it's components with that of a Ford F-150's. Continuing with Ford, the F-150 lightning is brilliant and because Ford insisted the EPA test it with a 1000lb slab of concrete in the bed when measuring range so in the real world it actually gets close to 400 miles on a charge and can power a standard home for up to 3 days straight. The people I know that dislike EVs have never driven a fun one and they're usually old Boomers who don't like change and think Climate change is a hoax despite 99.9 % of climate scientists worldwide agree that human activity is responsible for the current ultra accelerated time frame as yes the climate has changed multiple times in the 3.6 billion years the earth has existed, only now.. instead of occuring over tens to hundreds and even a thousand Millenia, it's happening rapidly over a period of decades and even yesrs which can cause cataclysmic collapse as there are several of what are called tipping points like the large Antarctic Glacier that if it were to fall into the ocean, would cause sea levels to rise 10 feet in a matter of minutes and continue to rise as that super Glacier Melts. Coastline property would be worst effected in the southern hemisphere but eventually make it's way up north.... And despite what that Mickey Mouse sounding douche bag Ben Shapiro says, you can't just sell your house and move because one, you likely couldn't in the first place due to rising intre rates and the insane housing market and two.. your house would be likely permanently submerged underwater. Not even mentioning a similar cataclysm glacier in Greenland that would screw the Eastern Seaboard... Oh and then there's Jair Bolsonaro who has nearly completely turned the world largest carbon sync basically into a net positive carbon producer... Like have people not noticed that the words, “a once in a decade” or “once in a century storm” have become normal on weather broadcasts with the same happening with droughts. They are lasting longer and longer, making it increasingly difficult to grow crops, then it will be another once in a whater storm that lasts days to weeks the ruin most crops that survive such heavy drought... Like I get Boomers, other old people snd just straight up dumb people don't care because to them if it's not affecting them right now.. they don't care, yet its that group that has the audacity to say your generation just wants instant gratification, if I'm in a drive through window maybe but, when it comes to the Earth we think long term because we are the ones that are going to have to live in your old ass's Cyberpunk Hell scape.. Petroleum Is a terrible fuel, it's dirty, it requires a complex and dangerous infrastructure network to keep the supply coming *cough* Exxon Valdez * cough* Blue water horizon... Where electricity can be generated much more efficiently in a power plant to create energy to charge an EV which is why most EVs get the equivalent of 70+mpge equivalent. And battery power is not the only way to power them. Hydrogen and Hydrogen fuel cells are incredibly powerful, hell you can even mod a combustion engine to run on hydrogen gas and the only waste product is water. I'm in my 20s so I would quite like to not have a world ending event occur in my lifetime.. or at all and people really need to re-educate themselves on fission nuclear energy and how safe, green and effective it is. The Chernobyl disaster was caused by the RBMK reactor being 1. Of cheap Soviet design that used uranium-235 that had only been enriched to 40% combined with the mock test that was being done at the time being handled by people not fully familiar with the equipment, Fukushima which used a Westinghouse reactor had a steam and hydrogen explosion as the fuel rods melted because when the tsunami hit, The geniuses that built the place decided it was a good idea to put the backup generators in the basement and 3 Mile Island wasn't really a big disaster considering that the other reactor there kept producing energy up until last year. France is currently reactivating most of its nuclear power plants and Gernam is delaying closing theirs to deal with no longer purchasing Russian fuel, German. People have this huge misconception that nuclear energy is inherently dangerous and it's not, You have to purposely mess it up for it to become dangerous. Modern western reactors or pressurized water reactors are designed to fail safe meaning that if there is a problem it does not require the intervention of a single person to scram the reactor and lower the control rods to stop the reaction. Oh but what about nuclear waste I hear you asking. Chances are if you live even remotely near a nuclear power plant you're also living near nuclear waste as spent fuel rods are placed in cooling pools right inside the nuclear facility until they're cool enough to be placed in casks where they are combined with concrete silica and other materials to prevent them from reacting, heating up and going critical. They're also placed in these boxes that are so indestructible that there is actually video demonstrations of them being hit by fully laden trains and being completely fine and one has never ruptured and created a nuclear waste incident. Again nuclear waste is not green glowing liquid. It's the silvery metal uranium 235 and 238 (depleted uranium) as well as uranium's daughter isotopes like thorium. Thorium by the way was being sold online in multiple stores on Amazon as bracelets infused with it to increase "negative ions" I $hit u not" And although the popular joke is fusion is always 50 years away, that annoying joke may soon be coming to an end as ITER or international Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor is being built in south France and Will be the largest TokaMac fusion reactor on the planet. China, the EU, India, Russia, and the United States. And because, unlike fission reactors where it's isotopes are dangerously and can be used to create nuclear bombs if properly enriched or at least dirty bombs and can melt down Catastrophic conditions, if there is a failure in a fusion reactor it's simply Is the reaction stops, It also produces basically no long lasting radiation waste, at least in comparison how much possible energy it could output compared to fission reactors. Just imagine this for a second, The United States moves all of its energy efforts to solar, wind, biodiesel, solar mirror concentrators, battery and other storage technology, safe nuclear fission, geothermal energy, hydroelectric dams, introducing strong subsidies so that people are incentivized to put solar panels on their house so that although the electrical grid desperately needs to be upgraded as doing so would likely increase efficiency by 30% as well as creating microgrids with neighborhoods with solar panels and battery storage devices. Tidal and wave power And people more qualify than me that have done the calculations that have said if we did so, meeting our energy needs would be easily met by the small amount of fossil fuel we would have to extract from the ground on US soil and/or natural gas, making us completely energy independent and perhaps including Canada in on this as it would be a mutually beneficial agreement. That means no more wars over oil, No more cowtailing to countries like Saudi Arabia that murder United States journalist And then use a bone saw to chop them into pieces. What I am proposing is not out of the realm of possibility or even something that could only happen far in the future. I'm talking 10 to 20 years max if we wake up and realize we are on borrowed time and if there was a miracle and a majority of the United States citizens agreed on something it would take much less time. And if God willing We crack fusion, That would literally mean the biggest change for good in humanity since penicillin, antibiotics, basically all medicines, the internet, cars and the interstates and roads on which we drive them, passenger planes, trains... Basically any advancements humanity had made thus far would be completely dwarfed by what would now be a clean and practically limitless power supply that could power rockets that could travel at a small percentage of c (the speed of light Energy = Mass x the speed of light²) or E=MC². That would quickly make us a multi planetary species no longer needing to fight for resources or worry about climate change as fusion is clean energy and food production would become easy as we could do it basically anywhere given the energy. So if you're one of those people sitting there reading this comment and you've gotten this far... And you think rolling coal is funny despite the fact that it's basically the equivalent of a magic trick a 5-year-old just learned and won't stop doing while simultaneously pointing out to everyone else on the road that you are definitely not secure in your masculinity) American trucks are now bigger than the tanks we used to win WW2. I get if you need to haul things, The time to act is now…. Hell, yesterday
I love Doug's commitment and consistency over the years. Good going Doug!
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@@marktwain8192 nothing ever happens man
It's his job 🤦♂️
@@pooolish334 ikr y ppl got be so sabby bout everything
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I think a lot of people just want a "regular" car that's also an EV and this does it pretty well
That's why the F-150 Lightning is sold out into next year. It's an F-150, the best-selling vehicle in North America, and it just happens to be electric.
Exactly right. Some Audi buyers don’t want a crazy electric car with an Audi badge. They just want an Audi, but electric. This won’t scare those buyers away in the showroom.
I don't know anybody who wants that. Not having to put an engine under a hood has the potential to change a lot of things for the better, and this fails at it.
@@jonc4403 agree. That's why Tesla have done so well as they've delivered a range of ground up designed electric cars AND the network to support them.
I just want a regular car with a V8
I just noticed how relaxing and familiar it is to hear Doug rattling off information about quirks and features. I first found your channel after the youtube algorithm insisted back in 2017. I was like why is my suggested full of this seemingly random tall dude talking about cars. He had about 700k subs I think. After the the auto-play started up one of his videos finally (normally I have it off so it was just fate I guess that I had turned it on for some reason) and I never looked back. Thank you for the consistency over the years Doug. You got us through the pandemic, we really owe you one for that. Please dont stop any time soon man, and as everyone else seems to mention, please don't stop reviewing all the weird older stuff, or the exotic cool stuff, your variety and timing is just right. Even though Im a few years older, I shall refer to you as Uncle Doug now, you feel like that one uncle or cousin that's really good at telling stories and always fun to listen to at family gatherings.
It looks so much better than the model Y
It is, but much worse in performance :(
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Nah
@@jhovjhov yeah
@@Russell85 This is for someone transitioning from gas car to electric that still want that gas feel. The ride in this is so much more natural than Tesla. Tesla also has interior build quality issues and feels very cheap. It’s not just about KM range for everybody.
This car is great because it's getting more in line with what pricing should be and it's actually a normal car. The problem w/ electric cars is we're still in the early phases of the tech so everyone is trying to pack in every feature possible and then charge a fortune for it. They won't become totally mainstream and replace regular cars until we get back to what a regular car should be and they're actually affordable.
The model Y was supposed to be cheap like the model 3 but neither actually is.
What’s weird is that the model 3 used to be relatively affordable for a new car in 2019, they could be bought for 40k with taxes and fees included
They cant become more affordable when the materials are in more demand and becoming scarcer. Costs will only rise, which they just did. Big hikes on a number of new EVs
So much baloney from people who do not own EVS. I have a taycan and a Hyundai ionic. Colorado to California drive with just normal stops. Solar panels on the roof of the house that pay for the normal driving electricity. The ionic was about the same price as an average car. And such a great car. Way better performance than gas. Oil companies and gas cars are dead.
@@vnorvi lmao gas-powered cars arent going anywhere in your lifetime. Suck it up.
@@vnorvi Oil companies and gas cars are dead until the US goes to war with China and can't get the materials necessary to build these EVs.
Nice balanced review actually. We got one last year and it's a solid car, nothing crazy, good all rounder with a decent range and finish. The lack of OTA updates is pretty annoying to be honest as the software is very quirky (in a bad way!).
Weird! The original e-tron (aka the fat e-tron) has OTA updates.
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@@the_chris The Sportback isn’t “fat”
@@aaron-fauth 😂😂
For me the car is faaaarr to expensive to compete with tesla. (I am talking for EU market)
Sticker price with the best engine is about 68'000$ thats with standart equipment. With all the cool stuff like 4 zone climate better ambient lightning etc etc. We are talking round about 90k-100k. Thats hella expensive for a middle class ev suv.
I’ve had mine for 10 months and 10k miles and I’m loving it. I have a 40 S-Line which is rwd. It’s not outstanding in any area, but it has a great mixture of abilities and price. My real world range was around 230 miles at 30F, but I’ve managed 290+ miles (driven, not estimated, I’ve posted a video lol) on a charge. Audi haven’t gone for quirky - they’ve made an Audi that’s electric, which is probably what they need to get people to switch from A4s/Q3s. 🏴
But have they made an Audi? Aren't you a bit disappointed by the interior (materials)?
@@NO3V it’s my first Audi, but I don’t find the material quality any waited than the BMW F10 I had before. With the exception of the damn piano black which permanently looks like some sort of crime scene 😂 (I’ve ranted about that in a couple of videos lol)
@@NO3V the other thing I’d say is that mine was £47k so under $50k and the monthly payments were identical to an ID4 (slightly better spec). At £65k for top spec versions over here I’d be tempted to get a Model Y instead.
I asked before I watched the video. After seeing Doug talk about the "luxory" interior I am starting to wonder if the US version is different than the German one. Because that is pretty bad - even compared to a (German built) Tesla Model Y.
@@edinreviews Yeah. It's certainly more affordable. But the Tesla seems better value - you just get _much_ more while paying _a bit_ more - but that fact doesn't matter if you can't or won't stretch the budget.
I've seen a few of these around here on the Autobahn in Germany in recent Weeks, definitely interested in finding out about all of it's Quirks and Features as only Doug can explain!
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but.. but.. you're in Germany in Audi homeland, yet you're looking forward to some american (no disrespect) reviewing your own (german) cars. Come on people, snap out of it!
It's like me waiting for some youtuber from India to review a Dacia! (me being from Romania).
Also, as far as I know, all these manufacturers have factories in the US/Mexico and quality often differs from the european ones (made in Germany).
I've seen them too and the rear amber indicators look amazing! We get sh!t red blinkers.
@@jbmcdoogle It's because there are some strict regulations about indicators in the US which don't exist in Europe in this form. That's why you often see this amazing indicator design on european streets.
@@windhoff1417 I know about old US light regulations that insist on having so many sq inches of light, etc BUT Audi could eliminate that by doing away with the dynamic light and replace it with a static amber flash. Look at Tesla's Model Y or Model X. Or Volvo's new C40. The combo static brake light and streaming blinker looks incredibly stupid.
It isn't really a "start/stop" button, it is used if you want to turn on the accessories without having to sit in the driver's seat.
Yeah, or I was thinking if you had to wait in the car a while you could turn everything off to save some power
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@Finally 🅥 That didn't explain anything. It's a video about a cow with a ton of dislikes. Try again.
Yes cause it starts and stops electronics
The Q4 is not «based on» the ID.4.
They both (as Skoda Enyaq, ID.3, Cupra Born etc) share the same MEB platform which is modular and can be used as they please. Many of the parts are the same (DU, ECMs etc) but they are not based of each other.
too bad Doug didn't mention the crappy materials in the back, which is the same on all MEB platform cars
regardig OTA updating this will be in new 3.0 software update?
@@radue6830 Do you tend to ride in the back seat of your car? Seems like a fine place to save money.
@@prasad530 nope, but i m not paying audi money for crap vw interior
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Excellent review as always Doug. Just a note as more cars go EV - since there isn't nearly as much to talk about in the powertrain (displacement, cylinder count, turbo or not, etc. etc.) discussion on the battery architecture is really important. Is this a 400v system or 800v? What's it's maximum power acceptance (50, 150, or 250 kWh? or more?) during charging? What's the motor split, not just combined power? Does it disconnect the front or rear motor to lessen parasitic draw?
Many EV reviews now just copy what the company says ("5%-80% in 38 minutes!!!") but without any background on if that's possible or what the caveats would be.
As an EV enthusiast...strong agree!
I think Audi's EVs need to be praised for their design. Very classy, elegant, luxurious, sporty and futuristic without crossing the line too much as many other brands do so with their electric cars. Truly brilliant👏🏻
The inability to get out of the car without it turning off was a big detractor to the ID.4 for me. I ended up selling mine after a year because there were just too many quirks and I couldn't justify such a high car payment for a car that mostly just annoyed me.
What other quirks led you to selling it? I generally like the car but honestly it’s just a little boring for my taste. Especially for a mid $50-60k car once you start optioning it. I really like Audi’s sedans but all their crossovers and SUV are really starting to blend together nowadays
@@philorgneopolotin8762 wake up and buy the EV6 like you should have the first time
@@devongee1776 EV6 is so god awful ugly
@@devongee1776 yeah but it’s a Kia…who tf wants a kia
@@tiagopatrao4848 people that know anything about the latest kia models
For months Iv been waiting on someone to review the American Q4, I knew I could count on you Doug!!!
Honestly, I am not much of an Audi fan, but this is a nice SUV, and it isn't over done like a lot of newer EVs. I like that the swipe switches can also be used as buttons as swiping up and down and can be annoying, but they did it right here.
Test drove a 2023 model today. Was a really smooth ride. Quiet interior while driving, great visibility, and it controlled well. Reserved a 2024 model.
We just bought this car. Absolutely love it.
As far as luxury EV "suvs" this one is pretty good. Nice styling, easy to use interior tech, excellent german build quality, decent range, and relatively affordable compared to others. I'd definitely put this on my short list.
We bought a Q5e just last week and we love it. In 5 years the Q4E-Tron will be on our list.
Audi did something no other brand has done before - they got Doug bored.
I miss when Doug would go over every number and explain why he gave that score in that category.
He’s a family man now and a business owner. We are blessed that he’s still giving us these reviews. It’s actually therapeutic.
As a 42 year old who has worked in technical fields my whole life, a PC junkie, and general tech geek: I hate these new EV interiors. I just want a normal shifter, a normal volume knob, and exclusive climate control. Why is that so hard to ask for in these new interiors? You can get funky with design and add tech without making it so alienating to current drivers...
I guess I finally am the old man now.
I'm 21. Agreed. I guess we can go join the old person club. Ain't really a sports car guy. I just like a good product. This ain't it chief.
I'm between you two in age, but I agree all the same. I just want dedicated, manual controls with some sort of tactile feedback. Guess if this is truly going to be the future of automotive interiors, I'll save a lot of money by buying older and older used cars.
I think the exterior styling is a bit boring but the interior is nice! Bit bland but I like the mix of screens and manual buttons/imputs. Hate how many cars have completley ditched traditional switches and dials.
@E Van Sometimes it's better not to do something new when the old works just fine (*coughs* BMW size 36 grille *coughs*)
I kinda get the blandness of the design
This car doesn't scream "Electric Car" it just looks like another Audi SUV. People might be interested in that.
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@E Van All the sedan are starting to look the same from Audi as well. Mercedes is the worst.
The Q4 is the best to live with electric SUV, it looks good too
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He didn’t even stutter.
I was surprised to see Audi did not cover the door frame on the interior with anything. The paint being seen from inside really makes the vehicle look cheaper imo.
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That center shifter area looks cheap as hell. Embarrassing.
I test drove the Q4 etron and it felt kind of cheap.
There’s probably like 2 electric cars out there that don’t seem cheap in a big way or two
It’s not just this model. Audi has been cost cutting on their interior materials for at least 5 years now. Very plastic laden interiors.
I currently have a Tesla Model Y but can’t lie I have gotten bored of it and find myself wishing for an Audi SUV or Ford pickup. So happy to see so many new EV options, will definitely trade my Y when I’m ready!
A channel called technology connections did a video a number of years ago basically saying manufacturers should use the seat pressure switches as deadman switches. I like that Audi did this, very smart
15:45 this has been true of most every Audi from the 90s forward. It’s always a very nice, higher end Volkswagen.
I would save the money and buy the Volkswagen, frankly. But that’s just me.
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That has to be the most Ford Escape looking Audi I’ve ever seen
I have a proclip for my super duty. It was pricy but worth it. It comes in two parts so when I buy a new phone, I only need to replace the phone clip part, not the truck clip part.
The bigger E-Tron looks a lot better proportion wise. And official dealers offer it with substantial discounts. Rare, in the current new car market.
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Yes, much more a fan of the fat e-tron despite the range. This is a compromised vehicle that’s not $10k better than the iD4
It's a nice car. I'd easily go for it over the ID4. I love the HUD. But I am not a fan of Audi's current cluttered million-cutline interiors. The reality is, this has to be cheaper than the Model Y because the Tesla offers a better overall range/performance/tech package.
Except Tesla does not offer individuality, speedometer, HUD, service, adequate brakes. the do "future" stuff good but they don't even offer basics
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But the Audi is a premium manufacturer and the Tesla is not. The building quality of the Tesla cars are far away from the european premiums (bmw,audi,mercedes,porsche etc ...).
@@Pr0nStYle adequate brakes? What? Have you seen any comparison of a model Y to comparable mid-sized EVs? It performs the exact same if not better than anything in its class.
The rest are pretty minor things tbh. I’ve never once bought a car for an “HUD” or service. I’d much rather buy for things like tech, range, performance, efficiency, charging speed etc. that you actually use on a regular basis. The real advantages of the Q4 is build quality and materials used. The ones you mentioned are pretty inconsequential to most buyers
Seriously?You even dare to compare that garbage ID4 full of plastic with this gorgeus Audi?What Is wrong with your taste?🤣
Charging 5%-80% in 38 minutes sounds SLOW. The Kia EV6 does 10%-80% in 18 minutes.
The Korean trio is among the only ones using an 800 volt architecture making this possible. Only others are high end EVs like Porsche Taycan.
@@Josh-179 Tesla has virtually the same charging speeds with 400 Volts. It doesn’t have to be 800 Volts to charge fast.
That all sounds slow compared to filling up a gas tank, at literally any gas station I come across.
@@eljefeamericano4308 average wait at a Costco gas pump is 20 minutes now.
@@LearningFast Wow. Where? There's nothing like that happening where I live.
I’m a new sub, and I have to tell u after watching a bunch of videos, u remind me of Quentin Tarantino. The height and ur mannerisms and voice sound exactly like him!! Love all videos. So ur basically the Quentin Tarantino of the car world!!!
I noticed this, myself, and I can't unsee it. I can picture Doug perfectly taking over Tarantino's place in Desperado, telling his joke in the bar.
I can’t figure out if this offers ventilated front seats or not, & I hope it does bc I really like it! It’s way more distinctive than the Q3, Q5, & Q7. The Q8 has a very distinctive shape, but it’s very expensive once I configure a Premium Plus or Prestige trim with the options & features my family & I would want. The Q5 & Q7 are already pretty common
Nice
Cool
Wow I’ve seen the AR HUD as an option on the Mercedes’ eqs 580 and was surprised. Didn’t think it would be on this car
I use a ProClip phone mount for my 08 Lexus LS 460. Definitely worth it!
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Drove the Q4, MB EBQ, VW ID4 & LexusRZ all electric vehicles. The Lexus was my fav but couldn't get past the looks (those horns projecting out the back are weird). Bought the Q4 (from Carlsbad) - thanks for the review Doug. I guess you'll be seeing a couple more of our vehicles going on C&Bs.
That range is really gonna hurt them, especially in areas where it gets colder. Having a 3 in the Chicago area in the winter with the cold it really does impact the range significantly. In the cold months take that range and subtract probably 30-40%. It’s not good enough, especially for a brand like Audi. That range is like early Model S and X ranges from a decade ago. It’s time for them to get serious about that number.
I have an ID.4 with the same dual-motor, extended battery setup (I also have a top-spec Mach-E). Like all batteries, it loses range in the winter, but unlike my friends’ Teslas, both cars get their actual quoted figures. In fact, the Mach-E gets it’s full 270 miles averaging 65 mph on interstate roadtrips (80 mph cruise, plus slow-downs, etc). Because the starting points use different math, the effect you may be experiencing as a Telsa owneer isn’t quite the same as those using the more conservative EPA math.
EVs are such an abysmal replacement for the automobile. 😞
@@Cincy32 In what way? They are faster, need less maintenance, and are cheaper to fuel. Many electric cars are the best cars on the road. If you look at how long we have been mass producing modern electric cars vs gas cars it will be staggering how much better they are in a few years.
@@Cincy32 To each his own I guess. We're now all EV and are never going back.
@@paulelledge8977 Surveillance, remote control, pricing out the poor/working classes, unreliability in extreme weather, still unaddressed safety issues, infrastructure, charge times, etc., etc.
Correct me if I'm wrong: this Q4 does not have ota updates, but ID4 is supposed to and yet those have rarely happened, if at all?
If this is the future for Audi, I won't be buying one. Capacitive touch has no business in a car. I can feel buttons without looking at them so I know what button I'm pressing while looking at the road.
Also I'm wondering how Doug was able to review this car given the power situation in Cali.
Remember these cars are designed a couple years ago an are just coming out. By the time Audi an other manufacturers see people dislike for captive touch buttons an they stop putting them in new cars. Those cars wont actually come out for a couple years.
I hate this new trend, too. Would never buy a car with an interior like this.
Long time Audi owner and fan. This car = YAAAAAAAAAWN.
Same here. I'm generally pretty unimpressed with most of their newest offerings. Don't like the direction they've gone with styling, and I feel like the interiors look cheaper than they used to.
Would get this over a model Y any day! The interior built quality alone is a deciding factor to pick over a Tesla
They interior quality is all they have over the model Y
@@DescartesRenegade seriously. I’m a polestar owner so I can definitely say that the Q4 is not very impressive next to a model Y
$14k is also a deciding factor
but energy efficiency is awfull
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Q4 etron consumption : 17kwh/100km
Model Y consumption : 16.9kwh/100km
The q4 Etron also has a larger battery, a way better interior and none of the quality issues
It's been a while since I watched Doug used to watch on the daily an never did ads
Damn i drive a 2005 Acura, so It hadn't crossed my mind before until you were talking about the grill area of the car, but imagine rear ending someone and destroying that adaptive cruise radar/sensor. I bet that would be a bit pricey.
First thing that goes out, even a small bump/hit to the bumper cover or wherever the sensor is located and it'll go out of calibration... not cheap lol
Yes it will be lol
If Doug keeps on shaking his head so vigourously he’s gonna do myself a mischief🤪
Starts at $53k but I wonder what the price will be after the dealer markup? Probably a lot closer to the Model Y.
Forreal I wish people would stop quoting MSRP for dealer based manufacturers when comparing to Tesla.
Dealer is marking it up $10k for me. UGH.
We have a ProClip mount on our Miata. They are rock solid and wonderful.
when does the day come when a ev review does not include "tesla" in the title
I guess that answers the question: Would you buy the Q4 Etron over a Model Y if the prices were the same? No. No, you would definitely by a Model Y. And in 2023 the prices will essentially be the same since the Model Y will have a Federal Tax rebate, and the Q4 won't. In my state, that rebate is $10k. If they start making the Q4 in the USA, then I'd definitely by it over the Tesla Model Y.
The government says 240 miles is enough to go to the store to get a bag of bugs to eat
You definitely sound like a well balanced and smart person. Not a crazy one at all
Did anyone else notice that Doug said "Use the description in the link below" instead of - use the link in the description below.
He's working too hard. He needs a vacation or at least a trip to Nantucket.
Great video as always.
trust Doug on this one, y'all. I have a proclip, and the custom fit is amazing.
I get all of my life advice from Doug
Up here north of the border, the Q4 eTron is $59,950. The Model Y is EIGHT FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS!! This is an absolute no brainer for me....and we own a Model 3. There is absolutely no chance I'd pay a $25,000 premium for the Model Y. Oh, and FSD here in Canada is now $19,500 while 'enhanced AP' is $7,800.
FSD is now $15k USD and Enhanced is $6k 😑
I have a standard range 2021 model Y but now that I think about it, I should take the positive equity and maybe look into a brand new Audi 🤔
@@shadyj4231 yeah, I’m thinking the same. We could sell our 3 for more than what we paid new right now and buy a replacement and an oil field, and a refinery to make our own gas!
This is a entry level audi and after dealer markup it’s the same price as a prestige q7 lol
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Cool little SUV, could get this over the tesla y given the price. like the gauge cluster screen. Cool futuristic features. But it has a short range :/ and I'm skeptical how all those touch surfaces and software will hold up over time given Audi reliability. That really gets me thinking about how all these new electric/hybrid cars are holding up 5-10 years down the road. No pun intended.
Exactly, the range is a big downside considering how much better Tesla and Genesis are. And the interior surfaces are total fingerprint magnets.
You post as though you're both an expert on cars (which you're not) and that people would be remotely interested in your personal opinions (which they are not). This isn't your channel get over yourself
Audis are (generally) reliable especially newer ones
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@@slowery43 I am in no way saying I’m an expert. I like to learn about new cars and I was seriously considering purchasing a new suv in this class. Doug generally has unbiased videos where I can learn and formulate my own “score” or whatever you’d like to call it if on your hunt for a new vehicle.
Now that's a cool Hyundai. Audi has to go back to their bold styling (2013-2017)
Still waiting for Doug to review the new countach
We drove a 2022 Q4 Etron sports back and couldn’t wait to get rid of it. For the price, I have not much positive to say about this car. We now have a 2018 model S and we love this car sooo much more.
The one thing about the low 300 mile range even is that when the battery gets weaker over the years, that means that the range it offers will go down more (if not quicker) and batteries are not cheap to replace or fix.
Why do people assume that new electric vehicles mean competing with tesla or taking sales from tesla when in reality this will take sales for ICE Audis instead
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Audi's shutting off when you open the door, for example to open a gate, is soooo annoying! 🙄 I wish they'd make that optional.
It makes no difference as it turns on instantly when you get back in 🤔
It's doesn't "shut off" because there is no engine. It just puts it into park.
@@darreng8084 I own a 2018 Audi PHEV. It does shut off, completely. Even when in Neutral.
@@edinreviews Nope. It takes seconds to shut down, and it takes seconds to start up. I'm talking about my 2018 PHEV.
@@nolanhitchens ah ok. I’ve got a Q4 and as soon as you press the brake and select D it’s good to go, doesn’t take any longer than putting a traditional auto into D
Oh wow I'm early (I finally understand why people send this lol)
You probably won't see this, but have a good day Doug! I've been a follower for years, and you really built my passion and taste in cars! I love your commitment and the doug score chart shows the massive dataset you've made over the years, evidence of all your experiences! I'd love to meet you with a cool car someday if I ever move to the US.
At the beginning when he said the Model Y was $68k I said no its not its like $50k and some change. I looked it up and holy shit did the price go up. Plus the Autopilot that used to be included is now $6,000 and FSD that used to be $10,000 is $15,000. The lithium demand is starting to get to Tesla isn't it. "Oh but there's plenty of lithium". Yeah right.
It’s all a scam to crush us into submission. Even if you could afford these cars, you won’t be able to charge them up, soon. So it won’t matter. But hey the government will take care of you! Why work?!
Yeah, the Model Y only went up about $15K this year. Good thing EV prices are dropping quick like they promised.
@@carnageasada1 Make electricity scarce so you can charge more for it. Its like the diamond cartel.
@@Josh-179 Its also great that in order for someone to own an EV in a way that makes sense you have to charge it at home. With the rising housing costs the EV future sure looks bright. I mean if you rent an apartment or townhouse you can gtfo but for the upper middle class suburbanites its awesome.
The interior looks a little doofy on camera, but in person it’s really quite nice. 🤷🏼♂️
Agreed. I’ve always thought it looked awful from photos. Seemed really lop-sided and asymmetrical. I hated it.
But then I actually got to sit inside one in person at a dealership, I was actually surprised at how futuristic and edgy it looked. Looks A LOT nicer in person for sure.
Doug is the type of guy to call his kid "Quirks&Features"
ztill lezz awkward than elon muzk'z kid'z name.
not funny, not original
When comparing EV range, it is important to note that Tesla overstates range while Audi and almost all other EVs tend to understate range. EPA testing has too much variation and is not close to “real world”, but Tesla lives the over promise, under deliver life.
I give it 6 months to a year before those swipe controls quit working
Does it come with the rear drum brakes like the EU version?
I personally think the standard E Tron is way better looking but I understand why some people want to drive around in an egg
Been wondering this for a while but your ProClip sponsor brings it to the top of my mind. Why don't car makers integrate good places for phone mounts? Yeah they have some wireless charging sometimes but they're often not usable when in those places.
That's the point. The phone should not be utilized when you are driving. Android auto link your phone to your car and provide functionality that is still safe while driving.
@@ntdnguyen85 my phone mounted in the pro clip is safer and easier to use than the touch screen imo
Doug seems to be sweating a lot, could it be because he wears 10 t-shirts at the same time??
I'll be sure to use the description in the link below, thanks Doug 👍👍🤰
0:03 skip to the review
Doug is the type of guy to name his iPhone Douglas’s iPhone (seriously, 1:14)
For electric cars, Doug should show us the quirks and E-tures
LOL
ugh,
It amazes me how nobody realized that doug said “use the description in the link below” when promoting the proclip mounts
Drum rear brakes on this. Audi must be joking.
That is an odd decision indeed... I thought only the most basic econoboxes still used drum brakes. On the plus side, drums don't wear out nearly as quickly as disc brakes and are a lot less expensive to replace when they do but it's still strange to see drums on a car like this
The review of the interior is okay 👍🏼, but as a driver I don’t spend much time looking at the rear red lights.
Please more on the driving, regeneration modes, various cameras and how smart the control program is.
I remember in college when new cars were 30k (2008) i bought 2 like that in my early 20s.
Now that we make more and can get cool shit, blows my mind how easy it is for a family to have 2x 50-60k cars in the driveway. Such a diminishing asset too but yet we love em
I always wanted to buy some rare 100k cars and flip them. Put a few miles on em and always have a 100k car for yourself (for free)
SONOS soundsystem on a car?? I didn't expect that. especially since all of my past Audis came with Bang and Olfsen for audio.
You didn't show what's underneath the trunk floor. Tesla's storage there is massive and worth mentioning. EV's should have a lot of space there, since there's no exhaust system.
Remarkable that the Model Y is so much more expensive in the US - in the EU the Audi starts a bit cheaper but the AWD model with 300hp is pretty much the same price as the Tesla and gets way more expensive if you get the sportback with all the accessories.
Pro clip is definitely a great mount. Highly recommend it
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It's crazy that this is now the only Q4 offered now... No ICE, no hybrid. Golden age of cars is truly over.
I'm with you on that.
Grand Appropriate Yippie
Pro clip even has for my 1998 E Class phone holders i am impressed 😁
1:47 Doug is the kind of guy to trick your brain before a review. 😄
What has stolen a lot of room out of vehicles is them pulling the engine further back into the vehicles. Pop a hood on any car and there’s a foot and a half from the grill to the engine itself. Like the old 70s vans with the motor half way into the cab. Also makes dashboards about two feet deep on most cars too.
I’m not a fan of modern cars. I’m amazed Doug is as tall as he is. Most cars, even full size trucks are designed for people under six feet tall.
Thanks for an electrifying review. I like it. It doesn’t shout… “I’m Electric”. Which is good.
Doug missed the best feature differentiating this from the id4: real climate controls. Buttons even. Illuminated. God bless Audi for getting something right in this interior. Although I’m not at all a fan of this new volume “thing”. The knob worked better.
Weird how Doug notices the auto-off when it’s the exact same setup in the etron GT and the full sized etron.
Way to go Doug!
Is it just me who noticed that as much Doug is moving around , the car is shaking with him😂
I suppose Doug is consistent, so those of us who know, know, but the continuous use of the Tesla range figures in his comparison is a big blind spot for his EV reviews. Yes, the e-tron/ID.4 range spec of 240 seems considerably lower than the Model Y’s 318, but multiple outlets, reviewers, and testers have shown that the different (and perfectly legal) EPA maths that the various manufacturers use are terrible for spec-sheet comparison. In reality, it has been shown that real world ranges between those two/three cars is remarkably similar, some even indicating a slight edge in combined driving to the Audi/VW pair.
There are still big EV-specific comparisons to be discussed, whether native charging technology, front trunks, or self-driving tech (though the recent Tesla price increase makes that less favorable), but there simply is not a massive (if any) gap in range for this class of family-friendly pseudo-SUV EV.
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Also, real world range estimates are all laughably inflated. I drove a Chevy Bolt for several years and it had an estimated range of about 300 miles, and I generally got about 280 miles. Not too bad, considering I'm mostly highway driving.
But the problem is, the thing was undriveable in even moderate rain. The low rolling resistance tires used to obtain those numbers would hydroplane at about 50mph if there was even a hint of standing water on the road. I'd regularly peel out if I stopped with my front tires on a painted section of road. Heaven help me if I ever needed to emergency brake -- I can't imagine how pathetic the braking distance was.
All that is to say, once I put some decent tires on it, my real world range dropped to about 20-220 miles. It's the EV industry's dirty little secret.
@@bvoyelr That sounds very specific to the Bolt, based on my ownership experience with three other EVs. That said, I also owned a 2005 Civic that was TERRIBLE in heavy rain and any kind of snow. It just floated. All that to say, I think that kind of driving characteristic has less to do with EVs specifically and more to do with other tire/wheel size decisions made by the manufacturer for any number of reasons.
Finally an EV that is just a car and not a smart phone