if you played any lost ark, you would know that this dude is a memelord of epic proportions, how do you extrapolate that he's salty from that end, is beyond me.
clearly you didn't play the game these weapon are not that op. its like 1-5% upgrade from normal traditional weapons this isnt like your avg pay2win that can 1vAll as long as u have money or arch boss gears. only casual players cry on this shit
I feel like you're justifying yourself, Blue. Yeah, the archboss should be hard to get, but let's not pretend it's meant to be hard just for the sake of it. It's hard so people with little patience and money can buy it. Remember the good old days when stuff was hard to get and you could only get it by farming or grinding? That's not the case anymore. Game devs have given us the option to bypass all that, and people with money and little patience aren't farming those shards. There are way more people swiping than you realize. I left the game over a month ago, and my guild was mostly Americans. More than half of them had archboss weapons. Do you think they got them from farming? and this was weeks later after archebosses were released. So yeah, people don't actually mind spending that much money to get their archboss weapon. Now, the video of the wizard seems like satire to me. I don't think he's salty, but at the same time, people are going to be jealous of others' success, and that's just how it is. Regardless, we gamers/consumers have normalized the P2W (pay-to-win) aspect, and honestly, it's our fault for allowing this. It's sad, but the gaming industry is now designed by suits for gamers, no longer from gamers to gamers. Don't know if that makes sense, Now I know this is not 100% true there are in fact companies out there developing really good games with zero impactful P2W into their gameplay, but for the most part that is not the case. I'm not against any company making a profit off us, but I just can't support P2W. I'm not that kind of gamer. If you made it this far, I appreciate you taking the time to read. Have a great day.
Funny, i saw a kanon stream, and the guy had 10k+ of the big guild potions when the game didn't even have 30 days of release...always found it strange, he did have those weapons super early too
If you're the #1 alliance on the server then you can easily get double Arch Boss weapons, but i do agree that the 180K lucent arch boss weapon in the auction house is ridiculous
i am still mind blown that this game has 61k players online. Granted there are alot of bots, but we have no numbers on that so we can only assume. But holy shit , TnL is a bottem tier mmorpg.
You can see how much more fun and memy wizard and how blue is completely off taking the video is so seriously. Kanon though looks like a shill trust me bro. p.s. saying that game companies don't push people for spending when you (cc's) are part of the marketing strategy of every major player on the market is just either ignorance or lying.
33:30 and as a swotor player that hurts because the devs do the opposite. They ban/block people who give feedback they don’t like. And whenever they do decide to make any changes, if the community doesn’t like it, they be like…tuff. So when I see videos from Tico and Godspeed addressing player feedback rather than forum posts that you can’t reply to, it’s a breath of fresh air.
Blue will go straight from doomer allegations in BDO to bootlicker allegations in TnL... not shill because that would mean he get paid. Also a good portion of the playerbase is still on copium saying the game is not p2w and you can "grind" everything, even when the devs makes their grind longer
I wouldn’t say this game is severely pay to win….you can’t pay to win siege or boon/rift stones. Active F2P are pretty much caught up to people swiping. They also gutted the rune system to make it WAY more f2p friendly
you can, if you have a full alliance with even a kinda decent shotcaller and the entire alliance has Tevent and Bellendier weapons. they will always win
Most importantly... Neither AGS nor NCSOFT controls the price market. Players have made the weapon cost what it does, not the devs or publisher. Now do I then thinks it's a stretch to say NCSOFT or AGS would purposely break the game or make it look broke so that these weapons are not dropping, raising prices so ppl charge more? Oh hell no! I 100% would not be surprised by that at all lol
Everyone from my guild quit already. TnL is terrible compared to old games like Archeage, PvP and PvE-wise. I wonder if Blue ever played Archeage. Back to BDO copium.
Does this guy not know that NCSOFT said the events were buffed on release to drop more for a “holiday event” then they would go back to normal. This “nerf” is how the event is supposed to be.
Ive absurd amount of playtime in this game and I understand how hard it to get these weapons. So sometimes when I see some casuals complaining about no loot it just brings me laughs
Inserted to him or not this doesnt affect how Whale people decide what to buy if they're gonna whale they gonna whale. Plus this weapon is like are like 5% diff on normal ones. A decent endgame player will know that this doesnt change or have impact in the game.
The guy in the video only shared his view so. I mean when you sit and really think about it, why do companies use these so call influencers and content creators AKA when they mentioned "Sponsored By". Who knows I personally can't say that he is right or wrong but at the end of the day it's basically all about trying to bring attention to your product.
I think the game is pretty decent. People just need to just follow their own builds to see what they like from what they don't. Following other people builds is not always a good choice enjoy the game the way you want with what ever build you want to try out
Your profile picture says it all here. Degenerates don't seem to understand that people watch for entertainment not skill in this audience. You are here to laugh and have a good time. The fact that I suck only adds to the shit talk. Stop taking it so personally.
I find this shit so funny cause if i tell my friend this game is p2w he fumes and be like no its not you can just farm lucent lol like bro its still p2w
you cant compare his reference to throne as the titanic to BDO. Titanic had a hype launch just like throne then it sank shortly after. BDO has been going for 10 years now. Throne is barely 3 months old and there are entire guilds in the game with all their members status saying "Unknown" The number of players in boss rooms have drastically gone down.. I have people I personally want to play with that are on another server and i cant play with them because I cant join their server so I barely log in these days.
@@MegaHerosmash Open since when? Last week Support said they cant do nothing for me if Im on an early access server and wants to move to any launch server. So unless they updated that recently then what you are saying is not true.
@legenderry25 My whole guild just did a transfer off lunar (a pre access) to crimson (A non pre access server). We did it on the 5th of this month. Which is why I was saying it's open now. They were waiting for milestones to catch up in both pre access and launch servers
$1500 is reasonable for a spender/Whale. Whales spend 1500 and more on 1............1 genshin character alone. For BiS? Yea people that throw money at games, WILL throw that kind of money at this game. I really dont know where the actual line is for spending with these games because whales/leviathans come in all spending degrees. For instance I would agree 5000 is too much even for a whale to consider "worth" but Ive heard of whales spending 6 digit figures on games....oh, sorry, on A GAME, so Im not shocked if they pay for that price point. They would make that money already by the time the item gets powercreep'd so its no big loss to them.
Having played T&L a fair amount and gone back to BDO, my too cents is if you can no life T&L you will always find the game engaging. Before people come after me, the game heavily focuses on guilds and players who invest all their money or time with a lot of fomo and p2w crap. Having been in a top guild, i cut my loses when the game literally started becoming my second job. MMO's are like that but for me T&L tries too hard at becoming something like WoW, FFXIV, Lost Ark, and Albion, but missing at what kept people interested in those mmos. Have to give them credit though the boonstones, conflict bosses and seiges where dope. But those become stale and cumbersome fast when your allinace/guild wants you to be on the clock. The random dungeon queue and dungeon parties in general is a whole another story😅
So no matter how hard I grind I will never get a higher value if I'm not Buying it But that's ridiculous money Don't get it wrong I love the game I will spend $20/30 maybe 40 But to spend $700 /3000 it's crazy
I know on EU many, many people have these weapons. I see them everywhere. Because of bots at these "farming places" that Amazon/ncsoft did nothing about mostly I guess. You saw them farming with same skill rotation and walking exactly same at the shard drop places. Problem is so many people have these weapons now and us normal players have no chance in pvp against them either. As a pvp game, makes it not so fun to play tbh /random person and real salty about the drop system :)
NCSoft made the greatest mmo of this era just like they made the greatest one of the last era. Haters in the comments are top tier delusionals. Oh and i can't believe you are watching a video from this guy lmfao. Wizard of delusions
i knew it already,and ncsoft is dead af.ncsoft screw most of the game they release.playin games is not a career afterall,the games got so much bug and exploitation of lucent.the game is not a hype anymore.the grinding becomes boring in a very short of time.and by the chart it shows it is tottaly a scam trick.
Are people really crying and complaining about p2w, I play this game semi casual and I’m 4k+ battle power I have a difficult time trying to understand what everyone is struggling with ? Cause this game is easy AF
@ “You’re addicted to watching something” bruh I check in every few weeks to see if this dude is gunna start playing GW2 like blud has been saying he’s gunna for 6 months lmao
@@TheDeadOctopus Ironically yes, GW2 is on the docket. I wanna do the full experience but PoE2 came out and we had Onlyfangs so once this blows over its def happening!
@ Thanks man! I will continue to check in then lol. Played archeage, BDO and lost ark so i can’t stomach any more of these p2w Korean MMOs like T&L. Appreciate the reply
blue is it just me or to farm and grind in tl is a joke comprate to black desert haha - ppl saying so hard to grind luc - i each week do 7k farm luc hehe - if i want arch boss wep its wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy easier then farming pen somthing xd
extreme pay to win game deserves the flop its getting, mark my words this game will flop by feb 2025, dropping 20k by week already in player count and everyine already knows its a paytowin.
TNL is dead. nobody likes a game where you feel forced to do repeatable quests and PvP is so clunky and terrible. I regret ever spending some money on this game. MMOs need to be more like BDO but better enhancement system and have more party involvement.
The moment you said TNL is severely pay to win is the moment i stopped watching. You clearly haven’t played any real SEVERELY PAY TO WIN games to call this that.
if you played any lost ark, you would know that this dude is a memelord of epic proportions, how do you extrapolate that he's salty from that end, is beyond me.
Dude, people are crying here they can't get arcboss weapon. You don't need it. You literally can dominate everyone with any weapons
you are correct. its all about the stat builds and skill build combo and on how you use your dodges.
People complaining the rare weapons are too rare😂😂 like wtf were you expecting?😂😂
I honestly stopped playing the game as soon as I realized how borderline unobtainable these weapons were
wym bro, u just gotta spend 2k for the weapon of ur choice :D
You dont need the weapon, there meant to be the last item you get.Cant have every1 running around with an arch weapon.
@@aprilgodvivi6776 and I don’t need to play their game, crazy how it works out that way
im fully geared and all i buy are the battle passes. just join a good guild who splits guild boss drops.
clearly you didn't play the game these weapon are not that op. its like 1-5% upgrade from normal traditional weapons this isnt like your avg pay2win that can 1vAll as long as u have money or arch boss gears. only casual players cry on this shit
I feel like you're justifying yourself, Blue. Yeah, the archboss should be hard to get, but let's not pretend it's meant to be hard just for the sake of it. It's hard so people with little patience and money can buy it. Remember the good old days when stuff was hard to get and you could only get it by farming or grinding? That's not the case anymore. Game devs have given us the option to bypass all that, and people with money and little patience aren't farming those shards. There are way more people swiping than you realize.
I left the game over a month ago, and my guild was mostly Americans. More than half of them had archboss weapons. Do you think they got them from farming? and this was weeks later after archebosses were released. So yeah, people don't actually mind spending that much money to get their archboss weapon.
Now, the video of the wizard seems like satire to me. I don't think he's salty, but at the same time, people are going to be jealous of others' success, and that's just how it is.
Regardless, we gamers/consumers have normalized the P2W (pay-to-win) aspect, and honestly, it's our fault for allowing this. It's sad, but the gaming industry is now designed by suits for gamers, no longer from gamers to gamers. Don't know if that makes sense, Now I know this is not 100% true there are in fact companies out there developing really good games with zero impactful P2W into their gameplay, but for the most part that is not the case.
I'm not against any company making a profit off us, but I just can't support P2W. I'm not that kind of gamer.
If you made it this far, I appreciate you taking the time to read. Have a great day.
Funny, i saw a kanon stream, and the guy had 10k+ of the big guild potions when the game didn't even have 30 days of release...always found it strange, he did have those weapons super early too
He plays Korean server and global, you might’ve been watching a Korean server stream
If you spend 1800 on a weapon, you're a loser. You're gonna a stronk loser. But a loser nonetheless
If you're the #1 alliance on the server then you can easily get double Arch Boss weapons, but i do agree that the 180K lucent arch boss weapon in the auction house is ridiculous
i found this guy with this video you're reacting to, and immediately watched a ton of others. he's pretty funny.
i am still mind blown that this game has 61k players online. Granted there are alot of bots, but we have no numbers on that so we can only assume. But holy shit , TnL is a bottem tier mmorpg.
Yeah, bro.
thats steam only theres easily another 20k from both consoles combind
Game doesnt need u to survive buddy
considering how sharded the playerbase is its pretty low.
U don’t play mmos 😂
You can see how much more fun and memy wizard and how blue is completely off taking the video is so seriously. Kanon though looks like a shill trust me bro.
p.s. saying that game companies don't push people for spending when you (cc's) are part of the marketing strategy of every major player on the market is just either ignorance or lying.
33:30 and as a swotor player that hurts because the devs do the opposite. They ban/block people who give feedback they don’t like. And whenever they do decide to make any changes, if the community doesn’t like it, they be like…tuff. So when I see videos from Tico and Godspeed addressing player feedback rather than forum posts that you can’t reply to, it’s a breath of fresh air.
Our guild got 7 arch boss weapons this week alone, 2 bell staffs, 1 bell bow, 1 bell sns, 2 tenant wands, and 1 event dagger
Hes not frustrated hes just a memelord that does this for any game hes playing, did it for lost ark too, he also has lucent tips as well
Blue will go straight from doomer allegations in BDO to bootlicker allegations in TnL... not shill because that would mean he get paid.
Also a good portion of the playerbase is still on copium saying the game is not p2w and you can "grind" everything, even when the devs makes their grind longer
You're mad and you are mad because I am covering both games. Deal with it.
I wouldn’t say this game is severely pay to win….you can’t pay to win siege or boon/rift stones. Active F2P are pretty much caught up to people swiping. They also gutted the rune system to make it WAY more f2p friendly
you can, if you have a full alliance with even a kinda decent shotcaller and the entire alliance has Tevent and Bellendier weapons. they will always win
Most importantly... Neither AGS nor NCSOFT controls the price market. Players have made the weapon cost what it does, not the devs or publisher. Now do I then thinks it's a stretch to say NCSOFT or AGS would purposely break the game or make it look broke so that these weapons are not dropping, raising prices so ppl charge more? Oh hell no! I 100% would not be surprised by that at all lol
sir....there is a thing called a bowl 😄🤣
That I won't dirty by eating out of the pot.
@@bluesquadronlive wash the dishes?🤦♂
Everyone from my guild quit already. TnL is terrible compared to old games like Archeage, PvP and PvE-wise. I wonder if Blue ever played Archeage. Back to BDO copium.
Does this guy not know that NCSOFT said the events were buffed on release to drop more for a “holiday event” then they would go back to normal. This “nerf” is how the event is supposed to be.
link?
Eating while recording a video? I'm out
Bye. No one cares. He’s streaming.
Kraft mac n cheese straight out the pot. ahh, a man of culture.
love to see it
why dirty bowl when pot already bowl shaped
Ive absurd amount of playtime in this game and I understand how hard it to get these weapons. So sometimes when I see some casuals complaining about no loot it just brings me laughs
Kanon had the fragments saved up for when the spear came out
Inserted to him or not this doesnt affect how Whale people decide what to buy if they're gonna whale they gonna whale. Plus this weapon is like are like 5% diff on normal ones. A decent endgame player will know that this doesnt change or have impact in the game.
The guy in the video only shared his view so. I mean when you sit and really think about it, why do companies use these so call influencers and content creators AKA when they mentioned "Sponsored By". Who knows I personally can't say that he is right or wrong but at the end of the day it's basically all about trying to bring attention to your product.
I think the game is pretty decent. People just need to just follow their own builds to see what they like from what they don't. Following other people builds is not always a good choice enjoy the game the way you want with what ever build you want to try out
Influencers making guides for 1% is pretty funny either way.
this blue dude is toxic and for all the shit he talks is not that good at the game its insane
Your profile picture says it all here. Degenerates don't seem to understand that people watch for entertainment not skill in this audience. You are here to laugh and have a good time. The fact that I suck only adds to the shit talk. Stop taking it so personally.
Look man like this, rub the shiny bald crystal ball 😂😂. Lighten up
bro is eating out of a stainless pott with a metal spoon
😂😂😂😂 heathen shhht
4300 GS here and no Single Penny Spent. Arch boss weapons are Overrated.
i really hope that's not a non-stick pot...........
Its not just guild event tho. It dropped every event. Even if there is no event at all in Ruins of Turayne
If everyone had those weapons, I don't even want then anymore lol
I find this shit so funny cause if i tell my friend this game is p2w he fumes and be like no its not you can just farm lucent lol like bro its still p2w
What happened to Blue's hair you ask?
Poooooooffff... it disappear.
you cant compare his reference to throne as the titanic to BDO. Titanic had a hype launch just like throne then it sank shortly after. BDO has been going for 10 years now. Throne is barely 3 months old and there are entire guilds in the game with all their members status saying "Unknown" The number of players in boss rooms have drastically gone down.. I have people I personally want to play with that are on another server and i cant play with them because I cant join their server so I barely log in these days.
Server transfers are open unless your in a different region server (IE NA can't go to Europe servers)
@@MegaHerosmash Open since when? Last week Support said they cant do nothing for me if Im on an early access server and wants to move to any launch server. So unless they updated that recently then what you are saying is not true.
@legenderry25 My whole guild just did a transfer off lunar (a pre access) to crimson (A non pre access server). We did it on the 5th of this month. Which is why I was saying it's open now. They were waiting for milestones to catch up in both pre access and launch servers
Its not healthy player base for a mmo to have 50k plus players...and they are all spread out in liken20 servers or so
$1500 is reasonable for a spender/Whale. Whales spend 1500 and more on 1............1 genshin character alone. For BiS? Yea people that throw money at games, WILL throw that kind of money at this game. I really dont know where the actual line is for spending with these games because whales/leviathans come in all spending degrees. For instance I would agree 5000 is too much even for a whale to consider "worth" but Ive heard of whales spending 6 digit figures on games....oh, sorry, on A GAME, so Im not shocked if they pay for that price point. They would make that money already by the time the item gets powercreep'd so its no big loss to them.
Having played T&L a fair amount and gone back to BDO, my too cents is if you can no life T&L you will always find the game engaging. Before people come after me, the game heavily focuses on guilds and players who invest all their money or time with a lot of fomo and p2w crap. Having been in a top guild, i cut my loses when the game literally started becoming my second job. MMO's are like that but for me T&L tries too hard at becoming something like WoW, FFXIV, Lost Ark, and Albion, but missing at what kept people interested in those mmos. Have to give them credit though the boonstones, conflict bosses and seiges where dope. But those become stale and cumbersome fast when your allinace/guild wants you to be on the clock. The random dungeon queue and dungeon parties in general is a whole another story😅
When he said 18k I was driving and that low key broke my neck cuz like wtf that’s not right and then he corrects it 15 secs later lol
Look I wasn't a math teacher
@@bluesquadronlive and u missed the class when tht was being taught way back when i persume?
So no matter how hard I grind I will never get a higher value if I'm not Buying it But that's ridiculous money Don't get it wrong I love the game I will spend $20/30 maybe 40 But to spend $700 /3000 it's crazy
What U doing eating out a pot hehee
BLUE! Please put the "$" in front of the number PLEASE! Rapolas Christ!
I love that guy he reminds me of the dictator
I know on EU many, many people have these weapons. I see them everywhere. Because of bots at these "farming places" that Amazon/ncsoft did nothing about mostly I guess. You saw them farming with same skill rotation and walking exactly same at the shard drop places. Problem is so many people have these weapons now and us normal players have no chance in pvp against them either. As a pvp game, makes it not so fun to play tbh /random person and real salty about the drop system :)
You still have bots? I haven’t seen any bots on west in a while
Polish Wizard is right.
First! WE LOVE YOU BLUEEEE. Keep making great content.
NCSoft made the greatest mmo of this era just like they made the greatest one of the last era. Haters in the comments are top tier delusionals.
Oh and i can't believe you are watching a video from this guy lmfao. Wizard of delusions
the fragements system is broken - i am at eu - i farm those and i got maybe 1 for farming 30+ its just not fun to farm and not worth it
This item is trash and its an item that wrecks guilds
All of Throne and Liberty players are on steam? I’m guessing you forgot about consoles
I did, apologies it was just like the bdo devs
i knew it already,and ncsoft is dead af.ncsoft screw most of the game they release.playin games is not a career afterall,the games got so much bug and exploitation of lucent.the game is not a hype anymore.the grinding becomes boring in a very short of time.and by the chart it shows it is tottaly a scam trick.
Are people really crying and complaining about p2w, I play this game semi casual and I’m 4k+ battle power
I have a difficult time trying to understand what everyone is struggling with ? Cause this game is easy AF
how dahell i got 2x selection chest then?
I know this guy from black desert, was crazy fun
40:10 common Blue W and entitled players L
Ngl bro, it’s crazy to me that people still play these garbage slop MMOs. Addicted to eating shit and making compromises lmao
You're addicted to watching something you obviously hate, they're addicted to something they think is fun. I'd rather be them, than you
@ “You’re addicted to watching something” bruh I check in every few weeks to see if this dude is gunna start playing GW2 like blud has been saying he’s gunna for 6 months lmao
@@TheDeadOctopus Ironically yes, GW2 is on the docket. I wanna do the full experience but PoE2 came out and we had Onlyfangs so once this blows over its def happening!
@ Thanks man! I will continue to check in then lol. Played archeage, BDO and lost ark so i can’t stomach any more of these p2w Korean MMOs like T&L. Appreciate the reply
name of the dude with wiz hat? he funny i need to binge his vids xD
lol, try to get 25 in a week, i want to watch u do that
blue is it just me or to farm and grind in tl is a joke comprate to black desert haha - ppl saying so hard to grind luc - i each week do 7k farm luc hehe - if i want arch boss wep its wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy easier then farming pen somthing xd
well obv the bdo grind is harder haha agree there
ITs NCSOFT !!!
extreme pay to win game deserves the flop its getting, mark my words this game will flop by feb 2025, dropping 20k by week already in player count and everyine already knows its a paytowin.
especially after release of new shiny wpn and they are still bleeding, kinda says it all.
just get a good trust worthy guild I'm 4200 with tevent gs free to play so it's not imposible you just have to work hard
BTW - YOU SHOULD COME TO EU GET ARCH BOSS WEP FOR 50K AND CHANGE BACK MAN HAHAA
hol up
@bluesquadronlive yea some wepons selling really low , even my guild got a drop 2-3 times sold for 45k sadly
Why do u compare BDO, a game launched 10 years ago, with Throne, who looks like it was made 10 years ago?
The thing is, that the stuff doesn't get seeded to the market by the devs...
Salty solo PVE Andy...
The dude with the mage hat probably never played a korean mmo before it seems.
he has played blade and soul and lost ark
@@AliciaVega2192 Why he so shocked then? With at least with lost ark, he should know how those devs work.
@@BackedCookie doesn't mean he can't inform, he is not shocked but u clearly don't know him.
@@BackedCookie dude you're ignorant
TNL is dead. nobody likes a game where you feel forced to do repeatable quests and PvP is so clunky and terrible. I regret ever spending some money on this game. MMOs need to be more like BDO but better enhancement system and have more party involvement.
Pooooof!
The moment you said TNL is severely pay to win is the moment i stopped watching. You clearly haven’t played any real SEVERELY PAY TO WIN games to call this that.
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