What have you seen when out there applying? Are you a PA or NP and have you been told by an employer that they only want one or the other? Share your story here!
New grad NP here. I just got a job with a surgical subspecialty. It’s all NPs in the group. When I was applying for roles and interviewing, no one explicitly said I preferred NPs or PAs. I interviewed for surgical roles and there was definitely a preference for PAs. However, they were ok with helping me obtain my RNFA so I could first assist in the OR. In one interview, I was asked a clinical reasoning question. I know my years in ICU and clinical training helped me answer appropriately. Titles aside, I believe employers want to make sure an applicant is safe, enthusiastic and a good fit for the practice in general.
Thanks for sharing your NP prospective. It would be nice if employers could/would just hire on merit and who they believe would do the best job. However, it's unfortunate, but there are lots of other things that factor into their decision making. Congrats on your recent graduation and I wish you all the best in your new role!
Seems like PAs need to up their advocacy game. We are higly trained with restrictive laws that bind us to Physicians and keep us from getting jobs. My CP loves PAs because of our training. IF only we could get more PAs to join and be vocal in their state organizations.
Exactly! However, I’m afraid too many PAs are either not entirely aware of the situation, or they just feel like “somebody else” will take care of things. It really is up to ALL of us to lift our voices and get involved! Thank you for watching and thank you for leaving this excellent comment!
Just my opinion so I hope I don't offend anyone. I have applied with Kaiser multiple times and have never been called for an interview. Have applied since 2010 and I have been a PA for 19 years now. They will have a job listing for NP/PA but the job is mainly catered for NPs. I know that since I have spoken to human resources department at Kaiser. Supposedly most jobs are falsely advertised for both NPs and PAs but NPs get first priority. I know there are PAs working in Kaiser but the ratio for NPs is a lot higher. Also, hospice agencies prefer NPs over PAs since NPs are able to do face-to-face interaction to do intial certification and recertification every 180 days for patient's terminal illness. Sadly PAs don't have that authority to do that. Somehow, we lack that qualification. I have contacted association regarding this concern but received no help in this matter.
Yes, it is truly sad to hear this is happening. In addition to the things mentioned in the video, I also think there are for nurses/NPs in hiring manager roles and I suspect many of them are more partial to hiring NPs over PAs. That is strange that PAs wouldn't have the qualifications to do that recertification. This is something that would be great to bring to your state PA Association or even AAPA. They can reach out to organizations that have these policies to advocate for our profession. Thanks so much for sharing your story!
A lot of telemedicine jobs are only for NPs. I think it’s because they do not require the physician supervision. It’s really frustrating as a PA with 15 years experience accounts for nothing. Also, I have noticed internationally we are limited while NPs have a lot more opportunities
Yes, we are in a very bad situation right now. NPs Are more in number and are much more active in the organizations than PAs seem to be. If we want to change our circumstances, we have got to wake up and start getting active ourselves. Because we are relatively few and number, we all have to belong to our state and national organizations to strengthen them and contribute some money to our PACs. Unfortunately, in the United States, in order to change laws, it takes money!
My company's VP told us at work dinner after a couple of glasses of wine he prefers to hire NP's. They don't need to recertify, they have more independence, etc.
Unfortunately, this is happening far and wide out there. We PAs need to be involved in our state organizations and donate to their PACs (political action committees)! I feel it's the only way to keep us competitive.
What have you seen when out there applying? Are you a PA or NP and have you been told by an employer that they only want one or the other? Share your story here!
New grad NP here. I just got a job with a surgical subspecialty. It’s all NPs in the group. When I was applying for roles and interviewing, no one explicitly said I preferred NPs or PAs. I interviewed for surgical roles and there was definitely a preference for PAs. However, they were ok with helping me obtain my RNFA so I could first assist in the OR. In one interview, I was asked a clinical reasoning question. I know my years in ICU and clinical training helped me answer appropriately. Titles aside, I believe employers want to make sure an applicant is safe, enthusiastic and a good fit for the practice in general.
Thanks for sharing your NP prospective. It would be nice if employers could/would just hire on merit and who they believe would do the best job. However, it's unfortunate, but there are lots of other things that factor into their decision making.
Congrats on your recent graduation and I wish you all the best in your new role!
Seems like PAs need to up their advocacy game. We are higly trained with restrictive laws that bind us to Physicians and keep us from getting jobs. My CP loves PAs because of our training. IF only we could get more PAs to join and be vocal in their state organizations.
Exactly! However, I’m afraid too many PAs are either not entirely aware of the situation, or they just feel like “somebody else” will take care of things. It really is up to ALL of us to lift our voices and get involved! Thank you for watching and thank you for leaving this excellent comment!
Just my opinion so I hope I don't offend anyone. I have applied with Kaiser multiple times and have never been called for an interview. Have applied since 2010 and I have been a PA for 19 years now. They will have a job listing for NP/PA but the job is mainly catered for NPs. I know that since I have spoken to human resources department at Kaiser. Supposedly most jobs are falsely advertised for both NPs and PAs but NPs get first priority. I know there are PAs working in Kaiser but the ratio for NPs is a lot higher. Also, hospice agencies prefer NPs over PAs since NPs are able to do face-to-face interaction to do intial certification and recertification every 180 days for patient's terminal illness. Sadly PAs don't have that authority to do that. Somehow, we lack that qualification. I have contacted association regarding this concern but received no help in this matter.
Yes, it is truly sad to hear this is happening. In addition to the things mentioned in the video, I also think there are for nurses/NPs in hiring manager roles and I suspect many of them are more partial to hiring NPs over PAs.
That is strange that PAs wouldn't have the qualifications to do that recertification. This is something that would be great to bring to your state PA Association or even AAPA. They can reach out to organizations that have these policies to advocate for our profession.
Thanks so much for sharing your story!
A lot of telemedicine jobs are only for NPs. I think it’s because they do not require the physician supervision. It’s really frustrating as a PA with 15 years experience accounts for nothing. Also, I have noticed internationally we are limited while NPs have a lot more opportunities
Yes, we are in a very bad situation right now. NPs Are more in number and are much more active in the organizations than PAs seem to be. If we want to change our circumstances, we have got to wake up and start getting active ourselves. Because we are relatively few and number, we all have to belong to our state and national organizations to strengthen them and contribute some money to our PACs. Unfortunately, in the United States, in order to change laws, it takes money!
My company's VP told us at work dinner after a couple of glasses of wine he prefers to hire NP's. They don't need to recertify, they have more independence, etc.
I hate to hear that... and don't think it should be an either/or. Stay awesome! :)
Unfortunately, this is happening far and wide out there. We PAs need to be involved in our state organizations and donate to their PACs (political action committees)! I feel it's the only way to keep us competitive.