History tells us that its hard to compete for championships when one of your franchise players is a pass first player. Only one that really did it was magic and thats why he's the GOAT PG. Meanwhile Steve nash got 0. Stockton got 0. CP3 got 0. Kidd got 1 because dirk carried him. Ben simmons is getting franchise player money so he needs to score more.
I think Kenny defending Ben so strongly in this segment, I wager is probably because of Kenny's history as a role player to Hakeem. In a way, he's defending his own pride.
I'm not hating on another man's dollars , I'm just interested in finding the agent who stuck-up the 76ers organization in the first place . Because you can't tell me nobody saw this video until now ! Can't shoot and won't shoot and afraid to shoot, now that's a stick-up !
Kenny been off this year more then any other year, it’s crazy. I feel like they tell him to disagree cause he been hella wrong this season. It’s funny cause nobody is agreeing with him up there and he not hearing
Kenny's point is coming from a guy who played in the NBA as a role player almost all his career...so 13 ast and 9 rebs are definitely good stats for him...while Shaq and Chuck's point is coming from.when they dominate games almost every night...simmons contract is a contract for franchise players and he is averaging 7ppg for the season...3 attempts in this game without KD...let that sink in...I mean I would even respect him if he went like 1-15 or 0-15 something and lost big coz you see he is trying...
Agree. Even if he goes for 1-15, eventually that's going to be 2-15, 4-15, 7-15 etc. With enough attempts in games, it'll be far easier to get over this wall he's put up in front of himself. He's a good passer and it won't ever get him blamed for anything, it gets the other guys blamed if they miss. It's pretty shifty to be honest. He's a pass first guy, but not just passing the ball, but passing the responsibility.
Ben Simmons has ONLY 1 freethrow made in two months. ONE. This stat is nearly statistically impossible in the history of the NBA unless you are absolutely avoiding contact. He is refusing to score and his defense is not great, he had only ONE block last month, while still commuting too many fouls.
Wow! One free-throw in a month that's crazy. This guy is so overrated Ben isn't doing nothing to help this team. But the coach, KD, and Kryrie gotta say the right thing about him in public and the only reason he's getting playing time is because they paying him 35 million.
I mean the one play where he had a layup thru contact if he wanted it but dumped it off last second and caused a turn over is all you need to know about his current mental game.. He's soft under the basket and is avoiding scoring at any given moment by trying to make an extra pass/move that isn't needed. Just finish thru contact and worst case scenario you are prob at the line shooting a pair.
Kenny Smith, a man who was known for being a perimeter scoring threat, telling 2 of the most dominant attack the rim players of all time about attacking the rim. It would be the same as Chuck telling Kenny about 3's.
He will never be paid to shoot the basketball again. That contract never would’ve been offered to him if they knew he was going to act like a petulant kid
@@bigjuni2102 no, its fact that I remember when Michael Jordan got $30 million for one season with Bulls and now guys are getting more than that. Fair or not, high expectations come with high salaries like Simmons. Jordan was and is the GOAT so his money was warranted. Simmoms, not so much.
Like Kobe said, to open up the offense, you’ve got to be a credible scoring threat. If you don’t even attempt to score, the defense is always on an advantage.
That's the thing though. Simmons does open up offense. His playmaking is still at that level. That is where the disappointment comes from. If he pushed to score more he changes games. Jokic and Luka are prime examples obviously
The fact that you can hear like 2 Nets yell “CMON BEN” as he passed that easy lay up is hilarious. The coach in Brooklyn has been great. Now let’s see him put Ben in his place.
ben's place isn't to score, ya be watching straight highlights and it shows. ben simmons job isn't to score, kyrie, kd, harris and etc. are there for a reason
KD and Kyrie really made us forget Ben was like this for a month. Ben's also too big and strong to be playing John Stockton style of basketball, and even then John averaged like 15 a game and 15 assists.
@@kennyhudson9201 the percentage players shoot from 3 and 16-23 feet (long two’s) is negligible on average, and the 3 is worth more. It’s only a low percentage shot relative to shots at the rim or in the paint, and even then it’s worth more.
yeah and that's what I respect about Chuck, wrong or right he doesn't beat around the bush. Dude's getting paid star level money and playing like a glorified 7th or 8th man. He has to do more.
Watching Simmons reminds me why I love Giannis. A lot of the same shortcomings but all the heart in the world to still put himself on the free throw line, keep working through his struggles from the perimeter. He's taken on those holes in his game head on.
Thank you brother. I also have had this thought! The first season of Giannis, could not shoot well, slim like he was on a hunger strike. Look at him now. That’s the difference between Simmons and Giannis. Simmons is trash mentally and physically
@@gordonlove5121 Simmons was a prolific scorer just a few years ago so unless he shrinked in the last 2 seasons I don't know what size has to do with his lack of confidence/aggressiveness.
Kennys insight is dead WRONG. a 0 point and 13 assist game is in most cases a net negative. Most of his assists are not from shot creation, but its just him swinging the ball around because he doesnt want to shoot or from stationary handoff passes. His 9 boards are also overrated, because most are just completely uncontested defensive boards. He is literally not doing much of anything, and in a game where you need to score 120 points to win, his 0 points and half empty assists literally mean next to nothing!
He had a total 13 assists in the game, that looks good if you don't know the details. Barkley's point was he already had 10 assists at the half, but at the more crucial 2nd half where he was supposed to step it up, he only had 3 assists...and still, zero points.
@@rap3208 yes but he has assists because he is passing up scoring the ball entirely. It's like good guards CREATE assists/shots by being a *SCORING THREAT* and passing the ball when it's optimal. He is passing the ball in situations where he should be *SCORING* so that assist is literally worthless is the point.
All Ben needed was to put up 12 points and they win this game. Even if he missed every free throw that is only 6 layups. 12 points, 9 rebounds and 13 assists is a good statline for a low scoring point guard, just look at Jason Kidd and Rajon Rondo. Neither of them were great scorers but they could at least be a threat with the ball in their hands.
Thank you bro Kenny clearly looking at it from Role player stand point Shaq And Chuck tryna tell him like bro he has to score he’s the 2nd best player on the team
They are right Kenny. He had 10 assist at halftime and ended with thirteen assist 0 points. That’s not good . Going 0 for 3 is not being aggressive offensively and that’s what they need from Ben. They need this from Ben with Kevin Durant on the floor but especially when he’s not there
If he is more aggressive and scores while still getting boards and assists, that takes the pressure off Durant and Irving. Now defenses have to take Simmons seriously, right now, they don't.
@@markosberndt2065 even if he could just get 5 pts with his other stats it'd be a big step. I feel like the fact there were only 3 attempts is worse than if he went 3/10
@@dougharper2312 the problem is he’s getting paid like a superstar. 35M a year. 0 points isn’t gonna cut it esp when Durant is out. With this era of the nba, wide open lanes and lots of 3pt shooters esp on the nets, 13 assists isn’t as difficult as people think. He needs to do more
@@FlipFlopGod Its definitely mental. But how much support is needed though? Shooting coaches, trainers, gym, etc. are all at his disposal. That doesnt even include being young and rich. I do agree that criticism needed to scale back since Nba is a brotherhood.
Yup. Agree 100%. Simmons has to change his mindset to "I'm going to lead the league in missed free throws by being super aggressive and I don't care." But he's afraid to shoot free throws.
I feel like at this point it's a game within a game for him. How many ways can he avoid scoring to annoy people that want him to score? He'll go out and get you 10 assists and 10 boards and play defense just so coaches wont bench him. But he's just out there to annoy people at this point.
Man this guy is so mentally and emotionally weak.. And the coach can’t even say the truth, we need him to score, why?? Because if you tell the truth he goes into the corner and cries..
Love the commentary today. All analysts had solid points. Great constructive criticism on Simmons. He’s got to look to score and build his confidence during the reg season for the playoffs 100%
@@DerickMagic You gotta work with what you've got. All he has to do is turn that corner and actively change his approach a bit, and he can help them a lot more. Could make the difference between mediocrity and a deep playoff run. He's the x-factor.
Yup as a Sixers fan I noticed it that Hawks series before the situation became a bigger topic The game started he would get 2 silly fouls Then he completely stopped attempting to go to the rim
That hawks series a few years ago broke him. It’s one thing to not score but Simmons isn’t even trying. Your 6’10” with great ball handling ability. Is he afraid to score? This is year 7 for him. In 7 years your telling me a player has no offensive game at all and is afraid to score? You score to help your team win. That’s the entire point of basketball. Simmons doesn’t want to do that. I’ve never seen a basketball player afraid of scoring and with no offensive game. It’s baffling to me. That hawks playoff series broke him.
He’s what, year 5 in the league and he STILL doesn’t work on shooting in practice or at home….and no one expects him to, so he doesn’t. I’ve never seen a professional athlete coddled more than Ben Simmons. They act like he’s an infant or something
How Ben responded with "I know I need to get buckets.." says it all. Scoring at the cup should never feel like an obligation for a 6'10 forward but always be a joy
I appreciate Chuck telling Kenny to stop comparing Simmons to Westbrook because Westbrook will ultimately be a hall of famer. Kenny stop making excuses for Ben! He’s timid! It doesn’t take some in depth analysis to see that
It felt to me like they were all ignoring what Kenny was saying-he was saying that Westbrook's approach is how Simmons *could* score. But let's be real about Westbrook-it took him a long time to get to that point: there were many seasons where the team Russell Westbrook was on was WORSE because of his constant shot heaving, "Russ being Russ." Where night after night, he took a ton of shots and made very few of them. He refused to be deterred. And since Kobe, everyone's like "yeah you can't let a shooting slump deter you!" ... but if you keep shooting that poorly and at that high volume, you're hurting your team. Even now, when he has finally figured out how to raise his percentage, he's still a permanent fixture on the bench for a team that's been hovering around .500.
Kenny was truly being in denial here. This is what happens when I don’t want to admit openly that you’re wrong. Barkley and Shaq were saying Ben could have done more. The Nets needed him to score!
Ben is 6'10 the reason Magic was a legend was because of how swift he was at that size as a point guard the fact that Ben can't get at least 10 pts over guards that are a foot shorter is crazy
Exactly and he probably doesn't care what people think. And if hes out of the league in 2 years. And if hes not playing everybody will say oh he can help some team.
the real "personal foul" here is the fact that Kevin Hart would've attempted and possibly made more shots than him... and he's as tall and Ben's legs!!!
I would like to believe somewhere in an alternate universe there’s a Ben Simmons pulling up from 30 with full confidence air balling driving Nets fans crazy rn.
Giving a assist does not always equal " creating points". Many times its just a simple pass sidewards. The player who scored them must move and be a thread in order for there to even be a assist. If Ben would be a more aggresive scorer maybe another player had 5 assists more. So you cant just say wow he had more then 10 assists.
Even though he did not score a point, he contributed with a lot of rebounds and assists but you still have to score a little. With him not scoring puts a lot of pressure of the other 4 guys out there.
@@mhdab2416 KEY word....years ago, Ben is not someone that should even be defended. Embid has carried his team at times. When was the last time Ben did that?
Kenny STOP! That man is broken!! He was lucky to have had that big pay day, but he will never have it again. That's the thing with getting paid big bucks at a young age and guaranteed at that. They become complacent because they are paid regardless. As Marvin Hagler once said, "It's tough to get out of bed to do roadwork at 5am when you're sleeping in silk pyjamas". What a waste of physical gifts and talent!
Agreed my man. Ben is broken. How is a 6'10" 250lbs athletic freak not able to score. And folks still want to make excuses for the dude. He's scared of free throws on his own home court. Imagine him playing at the TD Garden in the playoffs
Kenny is doing his best to look at the positive contributions but Shaq & Chuck are looking at the responsibilities of a STAR player…don’t argue with him Chuck 😂😂
Its so weird how Ben's scared to death to just shoot it because he might miss it. I dont remember a player like that in history. Everyone loves just shooting it
I love how Kenny is the only guy defending the overpaid “star” diva who’s now become a redundant role player while the other two legends just constantly chew him out every chance they get 😂
With him not attacking the basket he actually took away and negated those assists then cost his team more points bc the opponent doesn't have to respect him as an offensive player on the jump shot and on the drive! Wow.
The entire issue with Simmons is around how he is performing when considering his salary. The star potential and #1 pick that came with him early in his career is a sub point now. He may be elite in many ways on the floor, but he has to be more aggressive getting his own points or he is letting his team down. They are paying him to be an all star
I wonder does he even care at this point? I know me and I would be embarrassed to be getting all this loot and not contributing to the team with scoring. Some said that if he went 0-10 he would at least respect that he is putting the ball up but 0-3 is sad.
Kenny: "He played great defense, great passing."
Chuck: "Yep, that why you paid him 35 millions dollars so he can pass the ball around"
😂
Kenny always getting bodied
History tells us that its hard to compete for championships when one of your franchise players is a pass first player. Only one that really did it was magic and thats why he's the GOAT PG. Meanwhile Steve nash got 0. Stockton got 0. CP3 got 0. Kidd got 1 because dirk carried him. Ben simmons is getting franchise player money so he needs to score more.
@@jimai808 Truth is Ben isn't a franchise player he's just extremely overpaid. $20m a year is more than fair for him.
@@jimai808 Draymond Green
@@Thenewtiger345 Not a point guard and imagine what he'd be without Klay and Steph. Not even a comparison.
Kenny's judging him as a role player, Chuck and Shaq are judging him as a star.
I mean he's getting payed like a star so I'd see why.
Role players score too
He gets paid 30 million a year. Owners will go scorched earth in next CBA negotiations. Teams should be able to cut players like in the NFL.
@@draco_1million227 facts, he should play like a second option star.
I think Kenny defending Ben so strongly in this segment, I wager is probably because of Kenny's history as a role player to Hakeem. In a way, he's defending his own pride.
"35 million dollar to be passing the ball around" 🤣🤣🤣 Chuck is ruthless
I'm not hating on another man's dollars , I'm just interested in finding the agent who stuck-up the 76ers organization in the first place . Because you can't tell me nobody saw this video until now ! Can't shoot and won't shoot and afraid to shoot, now that's a stick-up !
Alexa play Biggie “Gimme The Loot”
@@cedrickcarson😂
And he probably does not care what people think. I'm pretty sure behind the scenes they're trying to trade him.
Love Charles🤣🤣🤣
@2:11 for reference
Kenny is truly showing the difference from a role players mentality and a superstar/star mentality.
Kenny been off this year more then any other year, it’s crazy. I feel like they tell him to disagree cause he been hella wrong this season. It’s funny cause nobody is agreeing with him up there and he not hearing
@@ndn4203 It's all that tattoo ink he put on his head messing up his mind
Well said
Yeah youre right about that. Ben is not the same player after the atlanta series chuck is right
I couldn't have said it any better
That “What’d ya say Chuck?” from Shaq never gets old😂😂
Never!!! Lol
Say it again Chuck
ernie getting mad after makes it better😂😂 "watch the fricking game DUDE"
@@samuelonthatop1125 Stinking game
@@keronwindley4950thanks sherlock fixed a word for me you must be a college grad
Chuck literally said pregame that simmons has to emerge as the second best player/option and this dude goes scoreless. Unreal. 🙈
simmons said "im gonna prove him wrong"
GARANTEED
simmons took it impersonally.
@@therealjuice4725 🤣🤣🤣
He just refuses to play to his potential as a 6'10" PG you can get 10-12 points off layups alone smh
Kenny's point is coming from a guy who played in the NBA as a role player almost all his career...so 13 ast and 9 rebs are definitely good stats for him...while Shaq and Chuck's point is coming from.when they dominate games almost every night...simmons contract is a contract for franchise players and he is averaging 7ppg for the season...3 attempts in this game without KD...let that sink in...I mean I would even respect him if he went like 1-15 or 0-15 something and lost big coz you see he is trying...
Ben might need a sports psychologist.
35 mil you gotta score something he had a good shot and passed it, just like in Philly.
Agree. Even if he goes for 1-15, eventually that's going to be 2-15, 4-15, 7-15 etc. With enough attempts in games, it'll be far easier to get over this wall he's put up in front of himself. He's a good passer and it won't ever get him blamed for anything, it gets the other guys blamed if they miss. It's pretty shifty to be honest. He's a pass first guy, but not just passing the ball, but passing the responsibility.
Their expectations are too high. Thats why kenny is right.
@@herbertfrancisthe1115 shooting a shot is too high??? They traded him for James Harden. We aren't asking for the moon.
Shaq said "At least act like you want to score" 😂😂😂😂😂
Kenny: "Watch Russell Westbrook".
Charles: "Oh, lord".
🤣💀
Chuck hilarious 😂
Oh lord
😭😭😂😂😂😂😂chuck be having me deceased
Saw this comment right as they got to that part of the discussion 😂😂
Lord*, God loves you 🙏🙏🙏
Kenny is an example of how you can be completely right and completely wrong about something
Ben Simmons has ONLY 1 freethrow made in two months. ONE. This stat is nearly statistically impossible in the history of the NBA unless you are absolutely avoiding contact.
He is refusing to score and his defense is not great, he had only ONE block last month, while still commuting too many fouls.
Wow! One free-throw in a month that's crazy. This guy is so overrated Ben isn't doing nothing to help this team. But the coach, KD, and Kryrie gotta say the right thing about him in public and the only reason he's getting playing time is because they paying him 35 million.
Unbelievable. Philly was smart to move him, they knew his head space.
Disgusting
That’s crasy in modern nba. Never new it was that bad obviously he hasn’t been passing the eye test but that’s crasy when you put it like that.
I mean the one play where he had a layup thru contact if he wanted it but dumped it off last second and caused a turn over is all you need to know about his current mental game.. He's soft under the basket and is avoiding scoring at any given moment by trying to make an extra pass/move that isn't needed.
Just finish thru contact and worst case scenario you are prob at the line shooting a pair.
Kenny deserves a gold medal for his mental gymnastics in this segment
😅😅
Kenny Smith, a man who was known for being a perimeter scoring threat, telling 2 of the most dominant attack the rim players of all time about attacking the rim. It would be the same as Chuck telling Kenny about 3's.
@MegaHariboboy or Chuck telling Kenny about weight loss 🤣🤣🤣
“Shaq, watch the stinkin’ game.”
Can we just appreciate that line, please?
“What’d you say, Chuck?!” 😂
He was trying to protect Shaq and Chuck from saying something they couldn’t get away with lol
Shaq Watch the stinking game dude!
Ben Simmons: "I am not a good shooter, so rather than working on my shooting, I will just stop shooting."
He will never be paid to shoot the basketball again. That contract never would’ve been offered to him if they knew he was going to act like a petulant kid
$35.45 million is Simmons' salary this season. Let that sink in.
And he scored as many points as you and I. He got 35 million for having the right height.
Well he’s good at everything else😂 yall so mad at someone making more money than yall
@@bigjuni2102 no, its fact that I remember when Michael Jordan got $30 million for one season with Bulls and now guys are getting more than that. Fair or not, high expectations come with high salaries like Simmons. Jordan was and is the GOAT so his money was warranted. Simmoms, not so much.
Its little... Like MPJ i would give them like 6 or 7 more than that 💯
Right and he can’t score that’s just crazy
Like Kobe said, to open up the offense, you’ve got to be a credible scoring threat. If you don’t even attempt to score, the defense is always on an advantage.
That’s why kobe was in a league of his own
That’s pretty obvious I’m pretty sure Kobe didn’t make that up
That's the thing though. Simmons does open up offense. His playmaking is still at that level. That is where the disappointment comes from. If he pushed to score more he changes games. Jokic and Luka are prime examples obviously
Boston defense was horrible. Those 13 ast didnt amount to anything. Some of those asst need to be shots
@@Surgeon806 They amounted to points. That is what assists are
The fact that you can hear like 2 Nets yell “CMON BEN” as he passed that easy lay up is hilarious. The coach in Brooklyn has been great. Now let’s see him put Ben in his place.
Where is Ben's place even at?
@@Byronic19134 the bench
@@Byronic19134 At home.
ben's place isn't to score, ya be watching straight highlights and it shows. ben simmons job isn't to score, kyrie, kd, harris and etc. are there for a reason
@@jayhunchooo3196 You don't pay a guy 35 million to not score. Idc who it is.
Charles “That’s not a man’s sweater”
Shaq “Thank you Chuck” 😂😂😂
That's a grandma sweater 100%.
KD and Kyrie really made us forget Ben was like this for a month.
Ben's also too big and strong to be playing John Stockton style of basketball, and even then John averaged like 15 a game and 15 assists.
Well that’s cuz John could actually shoot the ball
in the playoffs one year he actually avg. 27 and 14 on 50/75/90 but he only shot 2 three pointers a game so that number is flawed.
Hey, he was smart enough not to take the low percentage 3 shot.
@@kennyhudson9201 the percentage players shoot from 3 and 16-23 feet (long two’s) is negligible on average, and the 3 is worth more. It’s only a low percentage shot relative to shots at the rim or in the paint, and even then it’s worth more.
@@brandonreed3670 It's the lowest percentage shot. Period. You can't debate that so I don't know why you tried.
Chuck gets straight to the point, "Ben Simmons is averaging 7 points per game - come on man!"
yeah and that's what I respect about Chuck, wrong or right he doesn't beat around the bush. Dude's getting paid star level money and playing like a glorified 7th or 8th man. He has to do more.
Real talk.
I was surprised to hear that stat. I honestly thought it was lower than that. Only 3 shot attempt in a whole game? SMH.
Ben putting up great numbers for a role player but he's supposed to be Ben Simmons.
Simmons almost got that 0point double double
I remember one of the 90s Bulls players saying that Rodman aimed to get stats like that.
@@jp3813 Tru but rodman didn't dribble big difference
@@JJtrooths Thus, "aimed".
@@JJtrooths he didn’t set up his teammates as much either tho
@@jp3813 Rodman was just a role player tho, he didn't need to score or make assists, Simmons is ment to be the 2nd best player on the team
Watching Simmons reminds me why I love Giannis. A lot of the same shortcomings but all the heart in the world to still put himself on the free throw line, keep working through his struggles from the perimeter. He's taken on those holes in his game head on.
Thank you brother. I also have had this thought!
The first season of Giannis, could not shoot well, slim like he was on a hunger strike.
Look at him now. That’s the difference between Simmons and Giannis. Simmons is trash mentally and physically
@@gordonlove5121Ben Simmons has no footwork
@@gordonlove5121 Ben Simmons is not that much smaller than Giannis he's 6'10 and 240 lbs while giannis is 7'0 and 243 lbs
Gianni’s way longer it ain’t just height
@@gordonlove5121 Simmons was a prolific scorer just a few years ago so unless he shrinked in the last 2 seasons I don't know what size has to do with his lack of confidence/aggressiveness.
Shaq and Charles in that GOAT mindset. Kenny in that G-league mindset.
YMCA mindset
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Lamar_G2006
Not YMCA 😂
wow
🤣
Kenny speaking like a true role player.
Kenny is trippin
Lol
A true bus rider
*glorified role player
Kenny basically knows Ben is a role player at best but probably doesnt wanna bury the guy
Kennys insight is dead WRONG.
a 0 point and 13 assist game is in most cases a net negative. Most of his assists are not from shot creation, but its just him swinging the ball around because he doesnt want to shoot or from stationary handoff passes. His 9 boards are also overrated, because most are just completely uncontested defensive boards. He is literally not doing much of anything, and in a game where you need to score 120 points to win, his 0 points and half empty assists literally mean next to nothing!
He had a total 13 assists in the game, that looks good if you don't know the details. Barkley's point was he already had 10 assists at the half, but at the more crucial 2nd half where he was supposed to step it up, he only had 3 assists...and still, zero points.
@@rap3208 yes but he has assists because he is passing up scoring the ball entirely.
It's like good guards CREATE assists/shots by being a *SCORING THREAT* and passing the ball when it's optimal.
He is passing the ball in situations where he should be *SCORING* so that assist is literally worthless is the point.
Good analysis u are better than 99% of NBA analyst
All Ben needed was to put up 12 points and they win this game. Even if he missed every free throw that is only 6 layups. 12 points, 9 rebounds and 13 assists is a good statline for a low scoring point guard, just look at Jason Kidd and Rajon Rondo. Neither of them were great scorers but they could at least be a threat with the ball in their hands.
Thank you bro Kenny clearly looking at it from Role player stand point Shaq And Chuck tryna tell him like bro he has to score he’s the 2nd best player on the team
They are right Kenny. He had 10 assist at halftime and ended with thirteen assist 0 points. That’s not good . Going 0 for 3 is not being aggressive offensively and that’s what they need from Ben. They need this from Ben with Kevin Durant on the floor but especially when he’s not there
If he is more aggressive and scores while still getting boards and assists, that takes the pressure off Durant and Irving. Now defenses have to take Simmons seriously, right now, they don't.
@@markosberndt2065 even if he could just get 5 pts with his other stats it'd be a big step. I feel like the fact there were only 3 attempts is worse than if he went 3/10
@@nk-dw2hm I feel 10 pts is the sweet spot. This era is really easy to score with wide open lanes and refs protecting the offensive player
They are all right. 13 and 9 with 15-20 points is a great game. The problem is he isn’t scoring. Not just tonight but for the season.
@@dougharper2312 the problem is he’s getting paid like a superstar. 35M a year. 0 points isn’t gonna cut it esp when Durant is out. With this era of the nba, wide open lanes and lots of 3pt shooters esp on the nets, 13 assists isn’t as difficult as people think. He needs to do more
When Chuck and Shaq are teaming up, making the same point, its hard to argue against them.
They were the bus drivers. They have a G14 classification to talk about leading teams.
Kenny been like this all season especially with Ben😭he been on one
Earnie too
That overwhelm Kenny with logic. 😂😂😂
Chuck hit the nail on the head. He is currently averaging 1.5 FTA and had 14 games with zero free throws.
You gotta give Ben a trigger warning before you start talking about free throws. Ben needs a safe space.
You can’t help but feel sorry for him. Like it’s a mentality thing and the entire NBA won’t get off his back
@@FlipFlopGod Its definitely mental. But how much support is needed though? Shooting coaches, trainers, gym, etc. are all at his disposal. That doesnt even include being young and rich.
I do agree that criticism needed to scale back since Nba is a brotherhood.
@@FlipFlopGodhe is paid 30mill a year, how much support does he need?? If he has a mentality problem then hire a therapist
Shaq: " Don't argue with him Ernie, he's Kenny" 😂😂
Kenny: "We cannot negate the 15 things that he did great in this game"
Chuck: "If my aunt had stones, she'd be my uncle, almost"
Chuck is funny ngl
Ernie is spot on. He doesn’t want to shoot free throws. He’s scared of attacking
*Chuck
@@young__blacksmith Ernie*
i would be afraid to shoot freethrows too, if i was shooting with my non dominant hand aswell
Yup. Agree 100%. Simmons has to change his mindset to "I'm going to lead the league in missed free throws by being super aggressive and I don't care." But he's afraid to shoot free throws.
@@Mooseman327its like hes worried ab his self image over getting wins. worst mindset you can have, hes tarnishing himself that way
Man how you NOT score a point when Durant out, however I find it fascinating how many different ways he finds not to score
Im Dead 🤣 (the Way you Said That)
I feel like at this point it's a game within a game for him. How many ways can he avoid scoring to annoy people that want him to score? He'll go out and get you 10 assists and 10 boards and play defense just so coaches wont bench him. But he's just out there to annoy people at this point.
Man this guy is so mentally and emotionally weak..
And the coach can’t even say the truth, we need him to score, why?? Because if you tell the truth he goes into the corner and cries..
A few games ago, I saw a stat where he was 11 for 13 from the field.
“That’s not a man’s sweater”😂
That's not a woman's sweater either
@@markarren7480 it must be unisex then
@@markarren7480 that is barely a sweater
What an American thing to say.
@@Joensson That's not an American's sweater.
"But we cannot negate the 15 great things that he did in this game"
They lost lost the game, Kenny...
Can we just appreciate these guys commentary and chemistry? Feels really comfortable
I mean they’ve been working together for like 20 years😂😂😂
People are down on Kenny's perspective, but the fact that they all find these different angles is part of why it's so good.
Love the commentary today. All analysts had solid points. Great constructive criticism on Simmons. He’s got to look to score and build his confidence during the reg season for the playoffs 100%
They are paying millions for him to built up confidence?
specially the sweater
@@DerickMagic You gotta work with what you've got. All he has to do is turn that corner and actively change his approach a bit, and he can help them a lot more. Could make the difference between mediocrity and a deep playoff run. He's the x-factor.
-- everybody here scored as much as $35M per year Ben Simmons...ZERO points. good job everyone. We superstars too.
So it takes seven years in the NBA to build up your confidence ???
I do agree with Charles Barkley said Ben Simmons is afraid to be fouled it's still in his head what happened in the Atlanta Hawks series
Yup as a Sixers fan I noticed it that Hawks series before the situation became a bigger topic
The game started he would get 2 silly fouls
Then he completely stopped attempting to go to the rim
Didnt ernie point that out?
That hawks series a few years ago broke him. It’s one thing to not score but Simmons isn’t even trying. Your 6’10” with great ball handling ability. Is he afraid to score? This is year 7 for him. In 7 years your telling me a player has no offensive game at all and is afraid to score? You score to help your team win. That’s the entire point of basketball. Simmons doesn’t want to do that. I’ve never seen a basketball player afraid of scoring and with no offensive game. It’s baffling to me. That hawks playoff series broke him.
Dennis Rodman, he wasn't a scorer. The only reason he made it into the HoF was because of rebounds. Ben Simmons is a passing Dennis Rodman
@@roscodoggo7456 no he is not, he is just bum
@@opetdobro 13 assists say different.
@@roscodoggo7456 3 in the second half :)
@@opetdobro still 13 in the game, get over it.
ernie trying to hold this segment together with all his strength
Kenny: Watch. Russell. Westbrook
Chuck: Oh Lord 🙄
😂😂😂😂
Shaq: "Don't argue with him Chuck"🤣🤣🤣🤣
Now, this is what I want more of. This type of discussion. Straight basketball
Fr tho
Boring
Chuck made a great point. Kenny's just trying to massage Ben's mental health.
6:41 the shock Charles had for what Kenny said..he was like a old lady who just found out something shocking 😆
you know you’re in the wrong if Charles and Shaq are in agreement against you
Ben's confidence is shot. Doubtful he ever recovers. He'll never be an All Star again
“ That’s why you pay him 35 million dollars, to just pass the ball around” 😅 chuck kills me
Ben is still passing up lay ups!! That Atlanta series really took his heart.
Nah. He was ALWAYS like that. His good defense made people look the other way.
Trae Young Cucked ben simmons
Exactly he was putting up like 25 a game
He’s what, year 5 in the league and he STILL doesn’t work on shooting in practice or at home….and no one expects him to, so he doesn’t. I’ve never seen a professional athlete coddled more than Ben Simmons. They act like he’s an infant or something
@@sunrae7680 he was not always like stop the cap
Simmons made me laugh when he said I know who I am😂😂😂😂😂
What did he mean by that
He's joke 15ppg would be so effective for them even when KD is on the floor
How Ben responded with "I know I need to get buckets.." says it all. Scoring at the cup should never feel like an obligation for a 6'10 forward but always be a joy
I appreciate Chuck telling Kenny to stop comparing Simmons to Westbrook because Westbrook will ultimately be a hall of famer. Kenny stop making excuses for Ben! He’s timid! It doesn’t take some in depth analysis to see that
Westbrook is not a hall of famer player
It felt to me like they were all ignoring what Kenny was saying-he was saying that Westbrook's approach is how Simmons *could* score. But let's be real about Westbrook-it took him a long time to get to that point: there were many seasons where the team Russell Westbrook was on was WORSE because of his constant shot heaving, "Russ being Russ." Where night after night, he took a ton of shots and made very few of them. He refused to be deterred. And since Kobe, everyone's like "yeah you can't let a shooting slump deter you!" ... but if you keep shooting that poorly and at that high volume, you're hurting your team. Even now, when he has finally figured out how to raise his percentage, he's still a permanent fixture on the bench for a team that's been hovering around .500.
Simmons will be a HOFr also. He’ll get a couple rings and score more. He’s young.
Right! Russ actually tries and gives it his all , Ben is scared !!!
Shaq and Barkley look at it from a superstar perspective, Kenny was a role player.
Come on TNT, you cannot cut off when Chuck just landed the final punch on Kenny at the end without showing his response 💀
I caught that also.ha
Kenny Has To Dig Real Deep To Defend Ben’s Pride 😂
Shut up fake Kevin Durant
He doesn't want to hurt his feelings
Kenny is often afraid to take shots at players. Chuck and shaq don`t.
Yeah because Kenny The jet Smith is a little man he can't defend himself no smoke 🤣😂🤣
He’s riding like he’s bros cheer leader
Bruh Kenny trying to defend Simmons has me 💀
Kenny was truly being in denial here. This is what happens when I don’t want to admit openly that you’re wrong. Barkley and Shaq were saying Ben could have done more. The Nets needed him to score!
Ben is 6'10 the reason Magic was a legend was because of how swift he was at that size as a point guard the fact that Ben can't get at least 10 pts over guards that are a foot shorter is crazy
This is who Ben Simmons is, and I don't believe it will ever change.
Exactly and he probably doesn't care what people think. And if hes out of the league in 2 years. And if hes not playing everybody will say oh he can help some team.
Another game where Ben Simmons had more personal fouls than points.
@@neesonnaidoo4745 0 is not more than 3 lol
@@neesonnaidoo4745 What...💀💀💀
the real "personal foul" here is the fact that Kevin Hart would've attempted and possibly made more shots than him... and he's as tall and Ben's legs!!!
Jason Kidd came is a great example of a player modifying his game over time. Simmons could learn a lot from studying that hall of fame PG.
He's no where near as good a Jason kidd and never will be.
SImmons could learn a lot from half the players in the G-League at this point, let alone Kidd.
Kenny: "Watch Russel Westbrook"
Charles: "Oh God"
"Kenny, you old too" 😂😂😂
Chuck saying "oh laaawrd..." killed me 🤣🤣 bet if its not on tv, he gonna slap somebody
Kenny is getting more delusional 😂
Chuck a big kid that sigh after he said oh lord killed me 🤣
Chuck and Shaq are national treasures. This show would be nothing without them. Better than stand up comedy. "What did you say, Chuck?"
How Ben Simmons doesn't get 10-15 points every night off layups because he is the TALLEST point guard in the league is beyond me. 💀😭
I would like to believe somewhere in an alternate universe there’s a Ben Simmons pulling up from 30 with full confidence air balling driving Nets fans crazy rn.
Hilarious
describing westbrook lol
nets wouldnt have him if that were true
That is basically Russell Westbrook! no worries my guy! just tune into a lakers game! Confidence is one helluva drug!
if he was pulling up from 30 he’d still be in philly. no such universe exists
Giving a assist does not always equal " creating points". Many times its just a simple pass sidewards. The player who scored them must move and be a thread in order for there to even be a assist. If Ben would be a more aggresive scorer maybe another player had 5 assists more. So you cant just say wow he had more then 10 assists.
Even though he did not score a point, he contributed with a lot of rebounds and assists but you still have to score a little. With him not scoring puts a lot of pressure of the other 4 guys out there.
“He had ZERO, FOUR, and THREE!” 😂
Joel Embiid has said it best: “At this point I do not care about that man.”
Joel Embiid also scored 0 pts in a game few years ago 😂
@@mhdab2416 embiid has more points in one game than Ben has all year
@@mhdab2416Embiid is a star in the league. Simmons is an afterthought
@@mhdab2416 Worst comparison ever. Embiid has probably scored more in 1 game than Bum Shitmmons has scored all month.
@@mhdab2416 KEY word....years ago, Ben is not someone that should even be defended. Embid has carried his team at times. When was the last time Ben did that?
Kenny STOP! That man is broken!! He was lucky to have had that big pay day, but he will never have it again. That's the thing with getting paid big bucks at a young age and guaranteed at that. They become complacent because they are paid regardless. As Marvin Hagler once said, "It's tough to get out of bed to do roadwork at 5am when you're sleeping in silk pyjamas". What a waste of physical gifts and talent!
Agreed my man. Ben is broken. How is a 6'10" 250lbs athletic freak not able to score. And folks still want to make excuses for the dude. He's scared of free throws on his own home court. Imagine him playing at the TD Garden in the playoffs
@@brightBoss hes skinny .. no way he is 250 pounds
@@marvinparker2711 okay he's listed at 240 but that's close
Nice reference to one of the 4 Kings of boxing, and my personal favorite of the 4 😤
All he has to do is watch Russel Westbrook
Chuck: “oh lord” 💀
Kenny sounding like a man who's never driven the bus.
Kenny is doing his best to look at the positive contributions but Shaq & Chuck are looking at the responsibilities of a STAR player…don’t argue with him Chuck 😂😂
Its so weird how Ben's scared to death to just shoot it because he might miss it. I dont remember a player like that in history. Everyone loves just shooting it
It's not even a mental health issue. He's just a baby. Doesn't wanna be made fun of but wants to get paid like the superstar that he isn't.
when it don't go in it can make ya crazy
No. He's afraid of shooting free throws.
Literally Its a Shooting Game
@@adebrettski brothers afraid of even attempting it, let alone missing it.
Chuck making fun of big ladies got me rolling 😂😂
This is NBA version of the old American Idol
Randy Jackson = Shaq
Paula Abdul = Kenny Smith
Simon Cowell = Charles Barkley 😂
So that makes Ernie Ryan Seacrest 😂
@@Melrose102 🤣🤣🤣
This guy makes more than the league's reigning MVP
6:42 chuck just looks at him flabbergasted, he knew this take was reaching and then some ☠️☠️
I am amazed No one noticed Chuck almost going to the San Antonio women joke :- There are a lot of old big women 😂
Bro I was dying , shaq was dying but no one else commenting on it
0:50 "What they got down there Chuck?" 😂😂
we were soooo close to another san antonio rant
@@trelavon724 And what a shame we didn’t get it at the end.
I love how Kenny is the only guy defending the overpaid “star” diva who’s now become a redundant role player while the other two legends just constantly chew him out every chance they get 😂
Find someone who loves you the same way Kenny Smith loves Ben Simmons 💗💗💗
kenny wants to get a gm job, he wants to be on all the player's good sides.
@@oohellyaa08 Even if he got one I don’t think Kenny or any other GM in basketball would be willing to pay 35 million a year for Ben Simmons. 🤷♀️
@@Wyndamn fr fr this dude simping so hard. Nets paying 30 million dollars a year for 7 points per game and dude is like, BUT THE ASSISTS
Even if he don’t make most of his free throws if he start attacking and drawing fouls that’s an advantage to foul out the opponents .
Legend has it... Shaq's still laughin! Thanks for trying to keep t professional Uncle Ernie!
That 40 point game he had in Utah feels like a fever dream now
Charles hit him with a “watchu say shaq” and shook the universe lol
With him not attacking the basket he actually took away and negated those assists then cost his team more points bc the opponent doesn't have to respect him as an offensive player on the jump shot and on the drive! Wow.
Kenny acts like a professor without a teaching degree 😅
That “Oh Lord” from Chuck was pitch perfect
Not scoring a single point at 6’11 and getting all star minutes is crazy, there’s no way, no excuses
And getting paid all star money
Get them Shaq & Chuck… get these young players straight 💪🏽
4:54 That ''oh lawd'' though😂😂😂😂
It's amazing how long it takes Kenny to say absolutely nothing.
🤣🤣🤣👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
He said a LOT of nothing from 4:28 to 5:28 lol
@4:28-5:00 dude said zero. Lol
I'm all for hating on Kenny but the dude knows how to analyze the game well
@@bggjjhljk true but his love for Ben Simmons scoring 0 points is phenomenal.
“Whatchu Say Chuck?” is my favorite catchphrase on tv
I swear Chuck and Shaq forget they're on TV sometimes 😭
The entire issue with Simmons is around how he is performing when considering his salary. The star potential and #1 pick that came with him early in his career is a sub point now. He may be elite in many ways on the floor, but he has to be more aggressive getting his own points or he is letting his team down. They are paying him to be an all star
I wonder does he even care at this point?
I know me and I would be embarrassed to be getting all this loot and not contributing to the team with scoring. Some said that if he went 0-10 he would at least respect that he is putting the ball up but 0-3 is sad.
Ben has a point guard mentality he Dosnt have a scorer mentality😭 So when he’s practicing He’s Practices passing and rebounding😭😭😭
Died laughing at chuck changing the numbers
I don’t hear anyone saying he’s lebron 2.0 minus a jump shot anymore 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣yeah......that seems like forever ago.
Kenny is great addition to this crew. He brings another perspective to prove that Chuck is right lol 😆
Some people actually taking up for this guy it’s crazy. The only player that doesn’t have to score in the NBA it’s crazy
Paid 30mill a year at that