I check in on Elsword every once in a while, when something from someone I know catches my eye, and I find KOG repeatedly doubling down on all of the miserable design decisions that make the game a chore to play. Giant fullscreen neutral-defender buttons, panic-mash escape tools, delay pickups effectively replacing all concept of spacing, and neverending scrubquotes from people who are somehow taking the game seriously enough to send hate mail but not seriously enough to actually think about how to win. I quit nearly 6 years ago and people still say things like "oh no, Tyron, don't get tempted to go back". I am not tempted in the slightest. None of the things I enjoyed are in the game. ArcSys Elsword 2 when?
we miss you tyrone please come back to grandchase I'm still seeing you have fun playing other game in many of your streams. and that makes me happy to see ppl i know found good stuffs to enjoy at
Once upon a time, pvp was fun. I remember doing flashy stuff with all sorts of classes, probably the best compliment I received was being flashy with WS lmao. Now, barely anyone has a thought about having fun in pvp anymore, because theres so much shit that already ruins the experience. Those things you listed were right on the head, and it brings a tear to my eye that they think gameplay like this is absolutely fine. :^ but hey, Imma look forward to elboy finally becoming a grappler in elsword 2, ye bb
This really sucks to see even though I already know it to be true. I'm an oz main in trash gear and it's always so dumb when the Elesis and Ravens and the like complain like "why are you running" when I play the class within the range it's designed around. Like wtf else am I supposed to do, just walk up and let you hit me? LOL
Honestly it's the makers fault for how they designed Aisha. I always thought she should be more like Rena with a slower charging speed but better Z and X normals to be viable even when the MP is low. Every character has better normals than Aisha does with combos that are designed to be aggressive and catch opponents.
@@DeoxysDNA and see, Oz/Aisha as a whole used to be balanced AROUND the fact that her MP management and neutrals are terrible because her actives and special actives were really good (hence the magician aesthetic), but as the game shifted to EVERYONE depending on SAs a lot more in PVP, and as Aisha ate so many nerfs to the facets of her character that actually allowed her to facilitate this kind of gameplay (fireball MP gain down, hellstone damage reduced, insane MP gain from getting hit by her commands, mana drain removed, MP burn effects nerfed, darkweb can't hit anything anymore) she's just fundamentally behind everyone in how she can perform by design ATM.
No one will say "Welcome back" when you return to this game. That's one of the sad part. Still the same old community, which is why I hate this game in general. Can we just invest our time to build our lolis on Genshin and make them stronger? It's more worthwhile ╮(─▽─)╭
It's sad when people ask a class that has garbage neutrals to fight them via combat. CS also just got nerfed to the ground recently. Like..wtf bro? People are really stupid.
Personally, I see it as a bad idea to return to this game. It's only gotten worse. Run from this game while you can Vaff. I recently left and I never felt better.
Im not play Elsword anymore but seeing your pvp videos it's pretty entertaining. I love your style and I never play eve too much but when I did I watched you to learn. Hope you have fun and not too much salt on arena
It's good to see that the salt will never change in this game. On another note it's sad to see that people think that those silly kindergarten arguments will actually get them anywhere, like you said: just chill. Personal note is how (lack of a better word) `boring` or `samey` PvP got which tempted me to quit PvP in the first place. Everyone runs the same titles, same methods to catch or deal damage (which is mostly one funny skill for funny number) so for me personally it's nice to see videos with playstyles that don't revolve around one big funny skill. I'd love to go on but unfortunately I lack the words to properly convey what I have in mind fml. Welcome Back even if it's temporary :wave:.
I know that aisha sadly i remember in 1v1 matches she literally didn't do anything except use the mess outta modded heavy press yet when i started to finally beat her in 2v2 matches time to time i guess they decided to run back to 1v1 matches (i refer to players as he and or she depending on the character they play i do not change it unless people know the person's IRL gender)
yeah this is definitely a goodbye to this game i won't miss it at all lmao i've been watching your content for years now and i personally prefer ur hi3rd content more than anything
Arena is a joke because no matter how much i tried to hit them. Once they have mana, awakens, and starts bursting... It's game over My hp will just deplete so fast that the matches last less than 50 secs. I even have a good amount of hp and red dmg is about 45 - 50% but still treated like I have no red dmg at all *Excuse my bad writing/grammar/English (however you call it)* NIce seeing you making els vid again, but best to step away from this game since to me it's getting worst.
Because gear in pvp is a mistake sent by goddamn satan, but then again KoG is run by monkeys with wrenches. and not to mention the skills that "home" in on you? You could be hitting your opponent for the whole match, their hp goes down by like what.. 5%. then they do that after all the mp you gave them, boom, 50% of your hp is done. It genuinely baffles me that people still buy shit like the costume packs and dance poses. like.. I am perplexed.
That's really the thing I remember about this game that keeps me from coming back. Work hard to get your gears up there only for it to still not be enough. There's just way too much pressure to get all your gear top tier just to survive and even then you still get deleted in pvp.
2014-2016 player checking in lolz. Yeah idk if i'll ever return in this game. Pvp still seems broken and they don't know how to balance the matches.. :/
Welcome back Vaffle, even if it's just a visit. Kind of a shame that person still whispers, usually I just block/ignore people that do that because it's a waste of time. There will always be people like that. It's unfortunate you came back during CS's worst time since she's been nerfed to the bottom, but I hope to see you around soon.
Oh wow haven't seen an elsword video in a while, hi Vaff! :D I quit pvp for a long time, came back recently and the first match was someone who was very salty because they couldn't catch me and kept missing his skills A LOT. I kept beating them and they were insulting me in whispers. I don't understand why people insult others instead of just getting better at catching and time skills better 😅
@@VaffReverie Very true! That Aisha can just block maps, but I think they don't because they probably run when they are losing in my opinion. But anyways, have a good day/night! ☺️
So uhh... When are we getting an Eve standalone game? The only reason I want to come back to this god forsaken game is her and if she gets any playable content outside of this game I would gladly jump into it. Heck, even if it's paid DLC for some fighting game I'll throw money at that any day than return to this game just for one character
I don't why kog wont sell this game to another company that can handle this better. I want a open world elsword game back then similar to genshin right now and have guild wars in a separate map where 2 guilds could dispute with each other.
@@esper2199 Instead of having hype for a 4 path, you shouldn't give kog much credit for that, the game still needs a lot of fixes and only kog throws this away for people to settle for and they don't fix anything that's wrong with this game. And welcome back vafflin It's good that you still don't completely come back to the game, it's no longer what it was before
@@Maxae well it's understandable considering how understaffed they are, not sure how long they'll keep going. I just wish they made story stages for preunam cuz the cp requirement is absolute garbage.
So just out of curiosity but since you come back, are you going to play Elsword again or not? Though if you don't play again it's alright because well, eventhough I don't play anymore for 4 years, I saw KoG's balancing are getting.. weird.
My friend who quitted Elsword invited me to play Genshin, I hate to leave my DoM (cuz that CEO hair thooooo), but it's for the best, I am gonna stop trying to get +10 :)) I am enjoying Genshin more now tbh.
Eh I play this game once in a while I quit for a few years and then came back in 2020 in September and grinded thanks to corona and I play every once in a while now.
I need to say , the only one class that have the right to say something about other classes movility are ravens(because are rocks), but an aisha and chung? wtf XD
Whales still throwing their money into it, that's all there is to this game still being alive with their joke of a balance. Now with their plan of giving everyone 4th paths like Rose, that means more influenciable people will just keep throwing money into the dumpster.
Admittedly ur gameplay is pretty annoying and boring so I understand the frustration, literally watched you run around for like 10-30 seconds before engaging in anything multiple times in a row. No hate, play however you want to.
both game i was the first to engage first game i start play passive when chung decide to do full passive and heal in the back. second game i stay in circle near aisha and find way to go close. start full passive when HA was up
You’re definitely running at the end, but you’re a CS and have outdated gear.... plus you went in for catches so what are they getting mad for? Good video.
This game and community will never change :P Just as toxic and full of drama as always plus the added bonus of more kids doing stuff to get ingame currency.
- GM false permanent ban - most case they don't help you when you try to help report bots or scammers - extremely grindy, and new update waste your hard work grind after - pvp balance garbage, 10 years + with same bs
I only came back to the game only for noah and the anni free ice burner costume and then left the game again..i just cant get into it again like i did before even after 1 year break from the game, also the game became so worse with the new gear and cp req for the new dungeons that only whales can enter there... Im still here enjoy GI and HI3 tho
Why even return to this horrible game tbh. It's getting worse day by day, and the KR recent patches aren't showing ANY bits of improvements. KoG is just flopping, and they have no idea what to even do anymore. 4th path releases are just outright shoving "balance" out of the window and recycles most assets from other classes/characters. They're only trying to get players to stay with useless efforts. Creativity down the drains, game is dying like it should.
that game i only like world designs, some of story, and pvp many of the rest are quite boring for me hate that char customization cant make a cute char
@@VaffReverie yeah its graphic is quite not good since they want to minimize its weight. But the community also has plugins that makes your game look better, with G-shade and body mods, etc. Still I really love how welcoming the community is
![[Elsword PvP] ~ NA's Salt (DC, VC, YR)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/o1mySQmrHzA/mqdefault.jpg)
![에픽작 웃긴/황당한 장면들 모음! Funny moments! [Elsword KR/엘소드]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/tZl1Ogxh--M/mqdefault.jpg)
the salt is well preserved after 2 years
(laugh
I check in on Elsword every once in a while, when something from someone I know catches my eye, and I find KOG repeatedly doubling down on all of the miserable design decisions that make the game a chore to play. Giant fullscreen neutral-defender buttons, panic-mash escape tools, delay pickups effectively replacing all concept of spacing, and neverending scrubquotes from people who are somehow taking the game seriously enough to send hate mail but not seriously enough to actually think about how to win.
I quit nearly 6 years ago and people still say things like "oh no, Tyron, don't get tempted to go back". I am not tempted in the slightest. None of the things I enjoyed are in the game.
ArcSys Elsword 2 when?
we miss you tyrone please come back to grandchase
I'm still seeing you have fun playing other game in many of your streams. and that makes me happy to see ppl i know found good stuffs to enjoy at
Once upon a time, pvp was fun. I remember doing flashy stuff with all sorts of classes, probably the best compliment I received was being flashy with WS lmao. Now, barely anyone has a thought about having fun in pvp anymore, because theres so much shit that already ruins the experience. Those things you listed were right on the head, and it brings a tear to my eye that they think gameplay like this is absolutely fine. :^ but hey, Imma look forward to elboy finally becoming a grappler in elsword 2, ye bb
Ahh, shit... Here we go again...
An aisha talking about someone running? Thats a first XD
right...
This really sucks to see even though I already know it to be true. I'm an oz main in trash gear and it's always so dumb when the Elesis and Ravens and the like complain like "why are you running" when I play the class within the range it's designed around. Like wtf else am I supposed to do, just walk up and let you hit me? LOL
true
Honestly it's the makers fault for how they designed Aisha. I always thought she should be more like Rena with a slower charging speed but better Z and X normals to be viable even when the MP is low. Every character has better normals than Aisha does with combos that are designed to be aggressive and catch opponents.
@@DeoxysDNA and see, Oz/Aisha as a whole used to be balanced AROUND the fact that her MP management and neutrals are terrible because her actives and special actives were really good (hence the magician aesthetic), but as the game shifted to EVERYONE depending on SAs a lot more in PVP, and as Aisha ate so many nerfs to the facets of her character that actually allowed her to facilitate this kind of gameplay (fireball MP gain down, hellstone damage reduced, insane MP gain from getting hit by her commands, mana drain removed, MP burn effects nerfed, darkweb can't hit anything anymore) she's just fundamentally behind everyone in how she can perform by design ATM.
No one will say "Welcome back" when you return to this game. That's one of the sad part.
Still the same old community, which is why I hate this game in general.
Can we just invest our time to build our lolis on Genshin and make them stronger? It's more worthwhile ╮(─▽─)╭
ah there are some ppl in discord say hi, so community arent all rotting afterall
hope able to join more serious coop in genshin with you more
Dat nostalgia o.o
It's sad when people ask a class that has garbage neutrals to fight them via combat. CS also just got nerfed to the ground recently. Like..wtf bro? People are really stupid.
Braindead ^z permanent hit box carried
Ngl I really wanted to go back on this game but every time I do it its just not that fun anymore as it used to be
True, I feel the same
Personally, I see it as a bad idea to return to this game. It's only gotten worse. Run from this game while you can Vaff. I recently left and I never felt better.
lmao, i've been checking ouot this channel once in a while to see if you were still playing Elsword, the day has come! :D
I just log in back 1 day to sell the 30 days VIP card
Something never change.
Im not play Elsword anymore but seeing your pvp videos it's pretty entertaining. I love your style and I never play eve too much but when I did I watched you to learn. Hope you have fun and not too much salt on arena
sorry kind of garbage play this time
Thats a nice visit after 2 years , me currently playin elsword in 2022
It's good to see that the salt will never change in this game.
On another note it's sad to see that people think that those silly kindergarten arguments will actually get them anywhere, like you said: just chill.
Personal note is how (lack of a better word) `boring` or `samey` PvP got which tempted me to quit PvP in the first place. Everyone runs the same titles, same methods to catch or deal damage (which is mostly one funny skill for funny number) so for me personally it's nice to see videos with playstyles that don't revolve around one big funny skill.
I'd love to go on but unfortunately I lack the words to properly convey what I have in mind fml.
Welcome Back even if it's temporary :wave:.
i felt the "turned dynamic camera off", in the first fight lol
I know that aisha sadly i remember in 1v1 matches she literally didn't do anything except use the mess outta modded heavy press yet when i started to finally beat her in 2v2 matches time to time i guess they decided to run back to 1v1 matches (i refer to players as he and or she depending on the character they play i do not change it unless people know the person's IRL gender)
yeah this is definitely a goodbye to this game i won't miss it at all lmao
i've been watching your content for years now and i personally prefer ur hi3rd content more than anything
eh thankyou
but right that game really need more skill to play
As Sonic would say, "long time, no see".
Arena is a joke because no matter how much i tried to hit them. Once they have mana, awakens, and starts bursting... It's game over
My hp will just deplete so fast that the matches last less than 50 secs. I even have a good amount of hp and red dmg is about 45 - 50% but still treated like I have no red dmg at all
*Excuse my bad writing/grammar/English (however you call it)*
NIce seeing you making els vid again, but best to step away from this game since to me it's getting worst.
Because gear in pvp is a mistake sent by goddamn satan, but then again KoG is run by monkeys with wrenches. and not to mention the skills that "home" in on you? You could be hitting your opponent for the whole match, their hp goes down by like what.. 5%. then they do that after all the mp you gave them, boom, 50% of your hp is done. It genuinely baffles me that people still buy shit like the costume packs and dance poses. like.. I am perplexed.
That's really the thing I remember about this game that keeps me from coming back. Work hard to get your gears up there only for it to still not be enough. There's just way too much pressure to get all your gear top tier just to survive and even then you still get deleted in pvp.
I left around the time Transcendence was released for military and then moved to League of Legends. Game is booty but PvE might hold well in Elsword
Man~~ Elsword pee vee pee has not changed since I last play the game.
Good ol Aivary. Glad to see he still stays salty over this game lol
thanks for uploading elsword
its ok. whatever you do. just never go back to valorant. its.....hell on earth
Next video: what happens when you visit els in 2023,if it'll still live by then.
The netcode is still as I remember
i remember u were revered back in 2017 when i had still played :0 it was pretty cool ouo
desire moment
2014-2016 player checking in lolz. Yeah idk if i'll ever return in this game. Pvp still seems broken and they don't know how to balance the matches.. :/
I love your vids when you're fighting!
you mean fight via whispering
UR BACK AAAAA
WoW..U didn't lose Ur touch at all..Still fun..XD..love Ur Honkai Streams..Ty for this short but wonderful match..
thankyou for watching too. but i play quite extremely bad and lose for few matches actually
@@VaffReverie Nah... Considering U've actually quit playing this match was really good.
@@pyrrhanikos8290 thankyou for the cheer up
Welcome back Vaffle, even if it's just a visit.
Kind of a shame that person still whispers, usually I just block/ignore people that do that because it's a waste of time. There will always be people like that.
It's unfortunate you came back during CS's worst time since she's been nerfed to the bottom, but I hope to see you around soon.
thankyou for the welcome. ok so they just get salty lose to heavy nerf Sariel
Welcome back Vaff thought I'm not sure it was a good idea to pvp. Regardless enjoy your videos.
Despite my account is long gone, I might just return to it one day. I wonder if some ppl will remember me
I was wondering why I saw that name in pvp…I still enforce Celestia nation as of late
Probably never played a fighting game in their life. Or probably suck so bad at them that 2021 elsword pvp is the better alternative.
I only reinstalled to see my pretty characters again.
Oh wow haven't seen an elsword video in a while, hi Vaff! :D
I quit pvp for a long time, came back recently and the first match was someone who was very salty because they couldn't catch me and kept missing his skills A LOT.
I kept beating them and they were insulting me in whispers.
I don't understand why people insult others instead of just getting better at catching and time skills better 😅
they are unhappy kids
@@VaffReverie Very true!
That Aisha can just block maps, but I think they don't because they probably run when they are losing in my opinion.
But anyways, have a good day/night! ☺️
Are you gonna be return again in Elsword? or did you fully quited?
likely not going back atm, no idea
Never thought I'd see you play again lol
never change elsword
So uhh... When are we getting an Eve standalone game? The only reason I want to come back to this god forsaken game is her and if she gets any playable content outside of this game I would gladly jump into it. Heck, even if it's paid DLC for some fighting game I'll throw money at that any day than return to this game just for one character
you can try getting Eve's mmd model
She’s a runner, she’s a track star
if opponent call you a runner it means they don't know how to catch
Welcome back
thankyou but you got it wrong, I just log in back 1 day to sell the 30 days VIP card
Sell this game to a different company who can rebirth this chaos. Pull another Bungie
I don't why kog wont sell this game to another company that can handle this better. I want a open world elsword game back then similar to genshin right now and have guild wars in a separate map where 2 guilds could dispute with each other.
2021 and he/she still can't catch you lmao
lol
WillYumz boosted chung player.
Omg 😂 Havent played elsword in forever and tell me why I know that person whispering you bcos she/he salty they lost BABAHAHAHH
the arena timer should be increased by 200 seconds.
2021 and there are still future fitness players in pvp lol
lol
Welcome back Vaff.
Thankyou
Yay your back!
just visiting...
Did you also come back to Els for 4th Job Paths? It's pretty hype ngl.
was asking for 4th path ages ago and all my hypes were already gone...
@@VaffReverie don't lose hope, think about the new fabulous Eve that's on the way.
@@esper2199 Instead of having hype for a 4 path, you shouldn't give kog much credit for that, the game still needs a lot of fixes and only kog throws this away for people to settle for and they don't fix anything that's wrong with this game. And welcome back vafflin It's good that you still don't completely come back to the game, it's no longer what it was before
@@Maxae well it's understandable considering how understaffed they are, not sure how long they'll keep going. I just wish they made story stages for preunam cuz the cp requirement is absolute garbage.
welcome back TT-TT
that aisha is pissed.
since 2007
Good ol Aivary 😆
So just out of curiosity but since you come back, are you going to play Elsword again or not?
Though if you don't play again it's alright because well, eventhough I don't play anymore for 4 years, I saw KoG's balancing are getting.. weird.
just as title, only visitting
your skills are still top tier even tho you didn't play for like 2 years
What did they do?
I'm sorry for your loss
This game should have been an offline game pvp being optional
My friend who quitted Elsword invited me to play Genshin, I hate to leave my DoM (cuz that CEO hair thooooo), but it's for the best, I am gonna stop trying to get +10 :))
I am enjoying Genshin more now tbh.
Hey Vaff, welcome back. I thought you were permanently banned? Did they unban you?
Thank you. They unbanned me months after incident. we forced them to do
Eh I play this game once in a while I quit for a few years and then came back in 2020 in September and grinded thanks to corona and I play every once in a while now.
Ayeee
ayeee
I want to be in a vaff vid too :c
NO WEI
ruclips.net/video/dDDuDtwqMSQ/видео.html
and you still got it
2019 miss it
I need to say , the only one class that have the right to say something about other classes movility are ravens(because are rocks), but an aisha and chung? wtf XD
Why did you come back on the game for PvP ? q_q
;o an elsword vid
I think gear based pvp in any game is a huge-ass mistake. Just like KoG.
Do you think youll get into lost ark when it comes out?
erm no i think, only play game that has cute char
@@VaffReverie it’s from the devs of grand chase and E7 so you know there will be some cuteness in there lol
Fuck, this game is still alive? How?
Whales still throwing their money into it, that's all there is to this game still being alive with their joke of a balance. Now with their plan of giving everyone 4th paths like Rose, that means more influenciable people will just keep throwing money into the dumpster.
should soon migrate from NA to INT
I love playing Elsword, but I also don't PvP at all so yeah. ouo)/
slapping a girl and loosing in a video game are 2 entirely different things lmao. bro needs a reality check.
Admittedly ur gameplay is pretty annoying and boring so I understand the frustration, literally watched you run around for like 10-30 seconds before engaging in anything multiple times in a row. No hate, play however you want to.
both game i was the first to engage
first game i start play passive when chung decide to do full passive and heal in the back. second game i stay in circle near aisha and find way to go close. start full passive when HA was up
your comment wasn't rude, but you just need to look more carefully when try to criticize. see how characters and match situation work
You’re definitely running at the end, but you’re a CS and have outdated gear.... plus you went in for catches so what are they getting mad for? Good video.
Yes i was fully run at the end because of it was HA time
@@VaffReverie exactly, anyone would run.
Bad decision, very bad..........
tfw players nowadays just know how to catch opponents force skills
get hit, spam base job dodging skill / force skill button, win
its elsword, since 2007
why did you return? don't you care about your sanity?
This game and community will never change :P Just as toxic and full of drama as always plus the added bonus of more kids doing stuff to get ingame currency.
So many times !!!
and here im still playing dfo than playing this game lol
you cameback and ppl throw salt at you in 2021. ppl can't change what so ever.
Pero vuelves too femenino y gonito ;3 ♥
But good to see you're still on it at times. You're still the best eve I know overall ❤
Welcome back to elsword 🤣
thankyou but you got it wrong, I just log in back 1 day to sell the 30 days VIP card
I just quit the game due being too busy ,though it was a fun game
Idk about other people but I’d find it entertaining if someone made a pvp series of toxic people.
you are basicly asking for a hamburger in mcdonald.
you can check my old vids
Why have people quit this game? Looks kinda fun
- GM false permanent ban
- most case they don't help you when you try to help report bots or scammers
- extremely grindy, and new update waste your hard work grind after
- pvp balance garbage, 10 years + with same bs
@@VaffReverie so the staff/ customer service is trash and old players are tired of nothing ever good happening?
So I'm not the only 1 that returned to PVP for a day this month...Honkai still the better game
I only came back to the game only for noah and the anni free ice burner costume and then left the game again..i just cant get into it again like i did before even after 1 year break from the game, also the game became so worse with the new gear and cp req for the new dungeons that only whales can enter there...
Im still here enjoy GI and HI3 tho
elsword players built different
moral and mental builds right?
BTW WHY AIVARY HATIN STAY HATIN SMH
classic lucy since 2007
Why even return to this horrible game tbh. It's getting worse day by day, and the KR recent patches aren't showing ANY bits of improvements. KoG is just flopping, and they have no idea what to even do anymore.
4th path releases are just outright shoving "balance" out of the window and recycles most assets from other classes/characters. They're only trying to get players to stay with useless efforts.
Creativity down the drains, game is dying like it should.
i quitted elsword and came to ffxiv, it's really awkward to say a pay to play game is even better than a free to pain game.
that game i only like world designs, some of story, and pvp
many of the rest are quite boring for me
hate that char customization cant make a cute char
@@VaffReverie yeah its graphic is quite not good since they want to minimize its weight. But the community also has plugins that makes your game look better, with G-shade and body mods, etc. Still I really love how welcoming the community is
@@kyu7051 im kind of ok with graphic, it wasnt bad. can agree with community thing
thats how the game is for them, even to the next 10 years from now players nature cant be helped being salty and toxic lmao 😂