Hey, that's the way I called it for years. Something like... Attack left, no. Then attack right, yes. Touch right. Then I noticed that refs stopped calling it that way. Instead it's... Attack left no, counterattack right yes. And they call it this way even when there is a definite end to one action and the beginning of another. Refs told me the USFA, following the FIE, started calling it this way to make it easier for people who don't know what they are seeing.
The attack ends when the front foot lands...any following blade action doesn't matter -- even if the cut is en route to target. If the front foot lands before the blade does, the attack is no and the counter (if there is one), has ROW.
Jaja, se que ya pasaron 7 años, seguramente ya tienes la respuesta. La regla en si dice que no está permitido quitarse la careta antes de la orden de "ALTO" según el artículo t.125 del reglamento técnico de la FIE, las veces que se quitan la careta es después del toque, por lo que asumo que se quitan la careta después de que el árbitro de la orden de alto Y no he leído nada sobre la teatralidad, lo más parecido puede ser la interrupción del combate o que el esgrimista altere el orden en la pista (t.108.2) aunque esto solo aplica durante el asalto o antes de la orden de alto
"Don't overthink." Great advice. Some of the attack no's are so fast that they look faintly like compound attacks that finish low/to the wrist. (Example: 4:39) Any tips for being able to tell the difference?
lefty sabreuse Without wanting to sound too wishy-washy, you have to get a feeling for it. If it feels like a smooth un-broken attack all the way through that just happens to land a bit late, its probably Compound Attack. If it feels in anyway disjointed or like the hit landed late, probably Attack-No. As with anything, practice, practice, practice
i think timing of the foot also plays a part. if front foot hits the ground before the fencer hits, the attack is a miss. but then again, some fencers realize their lunge is short and shift their weight into another advance.
¿No existe mas la convencionalidad en el arma de sable?.Ninguno de los tiradores se juega en el "pris de fer" en la accion simultanea.P.Quinoa.
So much arm pumping and still they get the attack. Amazing.
Shouldn't attack-no be followed by counter-attack?
Hearts Not if the defender is well clear and then initiates a new action. A counterattack is in the same tempo as the original attack.
sydneysabrecentre thanks for the clarification!
Hey, that's the way I called it for years. Something like...
Attack left, no. Then attack right, yes. Touch right.
Then I noticed that refs stopped calling it that way. Instead it's...
Attack left no, counterattack right yes. And they call it this way even when there is a definite end to one action and the beginning of another. Refs told me the USFA, following the FIE, started calling it this way to make it easier for people who don't know what they are seeing.
still dont get it how sabre scoring works. Specially "attack no, attack", little bit confusing.
The attack ends when the front foot lands...any following blade action doesn't matter -- even if the cut is en route to target. If the front foot lands before the blade does, the attack is no and the counter (if there is one), has ROW.
¿No esta prohibido tener actitudes teatrales y quitarse la careta durante el asalto?
Jaja, se que ya pasaron 7 años, seguramente ya tienes la respuesta.
La regla en si dice que no está permitido quitarse la careta antes de la orden de "ALTO" según el artículo t.125 del reglamento técnico de la FIE, las veces que se quitan la careta es después del toque, por lo que asumo que se quitan la careta después de que el árbitro de la orden de alto
Y no he leído nada sobre la teatralidad, lo más parecido puede ser la interrupción del combate o que el esgrimista altere el orden en la pista (t.108.2) aunque esto solo aplica durante el asalto o antes de la orden de alto
"Don't overthink." Great advice.
Some of the attack no's are so fast that they look faintly like compound attacks that finish low/to the wrist. (Example: 4:39)
Any tips for being able to tell the difference?
lefty sabreuse Without wanting to sound too wishy-washy, you have to get a feeling for it. If it feels like a smooth un-broken attack all the way through that just happens to land a bit late, its probably Compound Attack. If it feels in anyway disjointed or like the hit landed late, probably Attack-No.
As with anything, practice, practice, practice
i think timing of the foot also plays a part. if front foot hits the ground before the fencer hits, the attack is a miss. but then again, some fencers realize their lunge is short and shift their weight into another advance.