16th-17th century European armour in the Wallace Collection

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  • @PieterBreda
    @PieterBreda 9 лет назад +59

    I'm a a teacher and oh boy, I really would like to enter a classroom dressed in armour like this. I bet you my pupils wouldn't believe their eyes.

  • @JustGrowingUp84
    @JustGrowingUp84 9 лет назад +197

    After watching so many arms and armours that are both beautifully decorated and practical, this comes to my mind:
    See, videogames? You can have armour and weapons that are beautiful, highly ornamented pieces of art and at the same time practical in battle! Stop with your silly, sometimes downright cartoonish fantasy designs and take some inspiration from real life!

    • @SkadeDK
      @SkadeDK 9 лет назад +6

      +TheFilthyCasual Couldn't agree more.

    • @googIesux
      @googIesux 9 лет назад +32

      +TheFilthyCasual agreed. and i actually think more practically inspired (serious looking?) polished, unique design would catch people's eyes more, given the hugely flooded market of giant axes and boob-size-fetish elves that people mostly tune out, visually. am i wrong? maybe your videogame could stand out with quality and depth

    • @hnhenrique2984
      @hnhenrique2984 9 лет назад +20

      Not only armor, weapons too.
      Im tired of swords that look impossible to even hold. There are so many awesome swords that we never see in games.

    • @Anelikital
      @Anelikital 9 лет назад +8

      +TheFilthyCasual I think there is place for both realistic and fantasy types, let's not forget people play Videogames to have fun :)

    • @seanrea550
      @seanrea550 9 лет назад +12

      +Anelikital some leeway can be given to designers so that they have control over the designs but the market is oversaturated with arms and armor that dont work. it would be nice for a company to release a game with proper/ suitable arms and armor for the person using it.

  • @LordVltor
    @LordVltor 9 лет назад +43

    It would be nice to have an entire special on helms and their evolution, marking up the differences and pro/cons about their shapes and visors.
    Helms are an essential piece of armour much people don't know much about - for example, wearability, hinderance, and, as it was stated in the last video, the problem of breathing while into them.

    • @PJDAltamirus0425
      @PJDAltamirus0425 9 лет назад +6

      +Lord Ultor True. My theory that is than soldier without a helmet is a dead man walking. There is reason that throughout history, also every army is history, from the richest member, to the poorest, send the money/time, to armor their head.

    • @rachdarastrix5251
      @rachdarastrix5251 Год назад

      @@PJDAltamirus0425 I don't have the money for a helmet so instead I just thicken my skull and then sew 27 hoods together in a quilted pattern for cushioning.

  • @Ben-dr9kh
    @Ben-dr9kh 9 лет назад +14

    with this background music, you just want to wear one of these (beautiful) bits of armour and end a few armies rightly

  • @Anelikital
    @Anelikital 9 лет назад +10

    The one on the horse gives me the vision of how intimidating it would be if you were a simple civilian or a child in some village and one day you see that pass right next to you.

  • @Gstrangeman96
    @Gstrangeman96 9 лет назад +52

    No wonder some of the Native Americans first thought the Spanish conquistadores were gods.
    Just imagine not even having the concept of armour in your head, and something like 1:47 walks you by.

    • @sayanorasonic
      @sayanorasonic 7 лет назад +1

      Gstrangeman96 that was a Spanish armor? I thought the first armor was the Spanish one

    • @funnyguy5746
      @funnyguy5746 5 лет назад +4

      @@sayanorasonic Western european armours al just sorta mixed at this point

    • @joellaz9836
      @joellaz9836 4 года назад +2

      Gstrangeman96
      The Native Americans did not think of the Spanish Conquistadores as gods and the Spanish Conquistadors nearly lost and only managed to defeat the Aztecs with the help of other native Americans.

    • @combobulous7044
      @combobulous7044 4 года назад +8

      @Joella Z the Aztecs believed that the Spanish were a representative of their god Quetzalcoatl as the conquistadores arrived at the time of the god’s coming

    • @gustavocano
      @gustavocano Год назад

      @@joellaz9836 The never "nearly lost". They were a few hundred. From the beginning, they made alliances with other subjugated tribes to defeat the Aztecs.

  • @JizzburnGigaqueer
    @JizzburnGigaqueer 9 лет назад +4

    Armour from this period is honestly really sexy... There's no other word to describe it! Truly the absolute pinnacle of aesthetics and practicality merging together, in my mind.

  • @LoricSwift
    @LoricSwift 9 лет назад +3

    Simply beautiful - incredible craftsmanship.

  • @sf90001
    @sf90001 7 лет назад +5

    Wow that guy on the horse looks absolutely badass

  • @xanthosparashis8819
    @xanthosparashis8819 5 лет назад +3

    1:30 - 1:59
    2:00 - 2:28
    These two sets of armor are simply majestic, especially the second one.

  • @bobgypsy6660
    @bobgypsy6660 9 лет назад +3

    If you ever get the chance, you should visit the Royal Palace in Madrid. The Royal Armoury there has many beautiful pieces from renaissance Spain including many Moorish weapons

  • @Drayran
    @Drayran 9 лет назад +11

    We should finance Matt a trip to the museum of history and arts in Vienna via Patreon. The Habsburgs gathered over centuries Europes finest arms and armour.

    • @KorKhan89
      @KorKhan89 9 лет назад

      +Drayran A friend of mine went there recently. Told me his girlfriend had to drag him away because otherwise he'd have stayed there staring at the armour and weapons all day!

    • @exploatores
      @exploatores 9 лет назад

      +KorKhan89 so what is the problem with that ?

    • @dmytroy
      @dmytroy 9 лет назад

      +KorKhan89 Thats what I did in French Army museum, sent wife and my kid roam around Paris by themselves

    • @jasonleonardchen756
      @jasonleonardchen756 5 лет назад

      @@dmytroy Smart decision, man.... I would do the same....

  • @Maedelrosen
    @Maedelrosen 9 лет назад +6

    was expecting the one on the horse to slowly move his head toward the camera

  • @DoomGuy148.
    @DoomGuy148. 9 лет назад +17

    I would probably kill someone for armors like these.

  • @berner
    @berner Год назад

    I'm amazed at how fast Bill and Ted were able to don and doff their armour.

  • @leoprzytuac3660
    @leoprzytuac3660 Год назад

    16th century armors are SO BEAUTIFUL

  • @isaac_swiftscott
    @isaac_swiftscott 4 года назад +2

    0:49 my guy lookin like the robot from zathura

  • @mrdee734
    @mrdee734 9 лет назад +1

    Imagine crafting such armor. Instant rich craftsman you become.

  • @gyloir
    @gyloir 9 лет назад +1

    It's amazing all o the different decorations they could do to plate armor, yet in most movies and things you see it's always very shiny polished silver with not a thing on it.
    Was it that common to paint on the armor or have cloth covering it? I know about the "Black sallets" and other things, I got the impression through researching it that plate armor was more commonly a bit more colorful then it's usually shown in films and such.
    The same way many castles where "White" color and not simply the exposed gray stones that you normally see when it comes to castles in movies/tv.

  • @kmal2t94
    @kmal2t94 9 лет назад

    very intricate and ornate armor. I'd like to see some videos discussing this later armor

  • @mrgabest
    @mrgabest 9 лет назад +1

    That suit of armour at 1:30 is fucking terrifying. Where the hell would you hit that guy?! Better hope you happen to be carrying a bill or bec de corbin when he comes riding up on you...

    • @KorKhan89
      @KorKhan89 9 лет назад

      Of course, by the time that armour was made, firearms would have been in widespread use. Depending on how thick the breastplate was, it might still have been able to protect against some bullets.

  • @vishmonster
    @vishmonster 9 лет назад

    Great music.

  • @TheAssassin409
    @TheAssassin409 9 лет назад

    i would also like to see the inside of the armor. Ive only gotten a few chances to look at the riveting and strapping that goes into the lames and joints.

  • @voiceactorofdovakiin
    @voiceactorofdovakiin 9 лет назад +1

    Hi, i have a question. About the armor in (1:21), more specifically on the plate on the left shoulder, what was the purpose of it? when i saw i thought this would be a jousting armor, but aparently they arent.

  • @Kalenderz35
    @Kalenderz35 4 года назад +3

    1:11 Common armor of hungarian black army

  • @MrGeek91
    @MrGeek91 9 лет назад

    Amazing Craftsmanship.

  • @ray-0249
    @ray-0249 4 месяца назад

    300 years ago we were still beating each other with sticks and rocks 300 years ago

  • @boolosboi7503
    @boolosboi7503 3 года назад +1

    Das drippin’ 🥶🥶

  • @pratik1568
    @pratik1568 7 лет назад

    a whole new meaning to the term knight in shining armor

  • @SlurponMuhdickKillTheState
    @SlurponMuhdickKillTheState 9 лет назад

    Beautiful.

  • @jediknight73
    @jediknight73 7 лет назад

    Works of art

  • @unitor699industries
    @unitor699industries 4 года назад

    imagine 10.000 of these knights on horses coming at you

  • @medicinemandude8426
    @medicinemandude8426 9 лет назад

    Hello there! Another excellent video by the way. I know I might be a bit out of context, but how about some videos about messers?

  • @cheesecakeisgross4645
    @cheesecakeisgross4645 Год назад +1

    When you unlock the premium skins.

  • @JNC5297
    @JNC5297 9 лет назад +2

    I have always wonder why the 16th century cuirass have that strange shape at the bottom. I think that renaissance armor may be a good topic to talk about.

    • @Faerindel
      @Faerindel 9 лет назад +6

      +JNC5297 My theories: It's curved to help deflecting shots (funny how that little fact got forgotten in tank armoring until the soviet T34). Also to give breathing space even if the armor is bent/caved in.

    • @Physwe
      @Physwe 9 лет назад +7

      +JNC5297 Some knights were also kinda fat. Happens to the best of us

    • @funnyguy5746
      @funnyguy5746 5 лет назад +1

      The armours at the time tried to emulate the current "peascod" fashion

  • @Strategiusz
    @Strategiusz 9 лет назад

    0:39 omg, that gaps in the face protection. They are just asking for a longbow arrow XD.

    • @AzzakFeed
      @AzzakFeed 8 лет назад

      At that time I think they didn't really cared about longbow arrows anymore :D

  • @100dfrost
    @100dfrost 9 лет назад +1

    Matt, Great video! That guy wearing the armour at about 1:19 could not possibly have been able to turn his head. Wasn't a lot, or even most of the armour you showed a little later than Agincourt? You never actually mentioned Agincourt in this video so never mind. Great stuff, thank-you very much. Dante.

    • @KorKhan89
      @KorKhan89 9 лет назад +4

      +100dfrost That one looks like jousting armour, considering it also has a shield riveted to the breastplate. In general, the armour in this video all looks 16th century, and is therefore significantly later than Agincourt.

    • @100dfrost
      @100dfrost 9 лет назад

      +KorKhan89 Kor, thank-you very much. I appreciate your answering of my questions. Once again thank-you. Dante.

    • @100dfrost
      @100dfrost 9 лет назад

      +Al-Malik Al-Ashraf Khalil Al, thank-you also. Dante.

    • @adrianj402
      @adrianj402 9 лет назад +1

      +100dfrost Well, no need for guess work. The title explicitly indicates that this is "16th-17th century European armour from the Wallace Collection". Agincourt is early 15th century.

    • @100dfrost
      @100dfrost 9 лет назад

      +Iona J Iona of course you are correct. I confess I did not even look at the title of the video until about an hour ago (I would have responded to you quicker, but my net died). I do feel foolish for overlooking the obvious. Thank-you very much. Dante.

  • @CaptainBill22
    @CaptainBill22 9 лет назад +4

    Were the first and last suits shown for ceremonial purposes? They don't really look like something you would want to wear to battle.

    • @SurmaSampo
      @SurmaSampo 9 лет назад +15

      +Sigvulcanas No, that was all combat armour. Just the armour of wealthy and important people who would afford the extra quality and customisation.

    • @probablythedm1669
      @probablythedm1669 9 лет назад +7

      +Sigvulcanas Seems like exactly the kind of armor you want to wear to battle. It just screams "I'm way too valuable to kill! Take me alive - at any cost!".
      So you're well protected and your enemy doesn't want to risk hurting you too bad, because taking you alive will probably mean a king's ransom (and those were insane).

    • @dajolaw
      @dajolaw 9 лет назад +2

      +Surma Sampo I would say the first armor shown is ceremonial, but could be wrong. The armor at 1:20 is definitely tournament armor, and not meant for the battlefield.

    • @sayanorasonic
      @sayanorasonic 7 лет назад

      dajolaw the first armor was a Spanish armor used by the conquistadors

  • @sergarlantyrell7847
    @sergarlantyrell7847 5 лет назад +1

    I can't help think that so much of the 16th - 17th century stuff kind of goofy looking... Like the bulbous shape of the helmets or the way the fluting looks like an old style metal dustbin.

    • @funnyguy5746
      @funnyguy5746 5 лет назад +1

      Ser Garlan Tyrell I’m not really a fan of fluting

  • @robertusaugustus2003
    @robertusaugustus2003 7 лет назад

    If I won the lottery, I would commission a suit of Maximilian armor

    • @stefthorman8548
      @stefthorman8548 2 года назад

      @@TheGoodCrusader $1000 for cheap, low quality armor.

  • @282ML22
    @282ML22 9 лет назад +6

    1:30 What type of roll you can do in this armor?

  • @ultrarenato
    @ultrarenato 3 года назад

    Cavalry sunset. Armor became less refined

  • @Brown195
    @Brown195 9 лет назад

    Does anyone know anything about Flambards, Flammenschwerts or Flame-bladed swords? They seem really interesting and I'd like to know about the advantages/disadvantages of them.

  • @thatoneguy1565
    @thatoneguy1565 4 года назад

    Seeing this armor always makes me wonder how anybody died in battle, or the least how the people who had the armor died

    • @Vlad_Tepes_III
      @Vlad_Tepes_III 3 года назад

      Gaps could be stabbed through (with sufficient force, due to the mail and gambeson underneath), percussive weapons could dent armour, and hitting the helm the right way would concuss the wearer much like a boxer's knockout punch does to an unprotected head, lance to the chest or head at full gallop, etc.
      It was by no means easy, however: only possible, yet extremely difficult. That was the whole point of wearing armour.

  • @paulpeterson4216
    @paulpeterson4216 9 лет назад

    A voice over would add value to these videos. Without it there is no context to the pieces other than that they are 16th-17th century, and presumably from somewhere in Europe.

  • @pyro854
    @pyro854 9 лет назад

    Hey Matt, why aren't these pieces blued? Are they show pieces or have they been cleaned? They don't look like they have been hardened.

    • @pyro854
      @pyro854 9 лет назад

      ***** I'm not talking about hot salt bluing... that's a relatively new process. I'm talking about the heat treating that was used pre-1900s. It makes the steel look bluish purple with some other colors showing as well. I don't know if they called it bluing back then, or if it's just called that in modern times.
      Also, this is not the place for being immature and childish. Take it somewhere else, KID.

  • @whowantsabighug
    @whowantsabighug 9 лет назад +2

    Are these early examples of 'Greenwich' armours?

    • @scholagladiatoria
      @scholagladiatoria  9 лет назад +4

      +whowantsabighug One of those is a Greenwich armour.

    • @whowantsabighug
      @whowantsabighug 9 лет назад +1

      scholagladiatoria Now I have to guess which one! Loving the interactivity of the videos!

    • @godofimagination
      @godofimagination 9 лет назад

      +scholagladiatoria I'm guessing it's the last one.

  • @Jacob-W-5570
    @Jacob-W-5570 9 лет назад

    I was just thinking up a question for you, about armour :P then you show us this very nice video.
    do you think it is possible to make a full body armour (like video) from a modern material that is stronger/lighter? something like kevlar perhaps? and what would be the disadvantages/advantage of such compared to a steal/iron/metal armour.

    • @KingCliveThe17th
      @KingCliveThe17th 9 лет назад +2

      +Splinter5570 Well Kevlar is basically just really strong plastic, so you couldn't make plate armour out of that. There's a newly developed titanium-aluminium alloy, called Mat 7720 New, that's only 38% of the weight of rolled homogenous steel (which is way better than the steel that was around in medieval times by the way) for the same amount of protection, that would be a pretty good choice.

    • @Jacob-W-5570
      @Jacob-W-5570 9 лет назад

      +Alex Shakeshaft did I write kevlar, i'm stuppid, I ment Carbon, like the stuff they build cars and boats out of nowadays.
      might have the same disadvante as kevlar though.
      Mat7720 sounds like interesing stuff, probably very expensive :P

    • @KingCliveThe17th
      @KingCliveThe17th 9 лет назад +1

      I assume you mean carbon fibre. Its light and strong, but also very brittle. Ideal for making fast cars and boats, not so much armour.
      Another thing I just remembered is that you wouldn't want to have a helmet that's too light, the reason being that a heavy helmet can reduce concussion if you got hit on the head by a mace. Unless you also include a lot of padding to reduce concussive impacts.

    • @Riceball01
      @Riceball01 9 лет назад

      +Splinter5570 Kevlar might work but it would depend on how you made it. If you used a kevlar weave like they do in modern body armor I don't think that it would work very well without making it extremely thick. If I'm not mistaken, woven kevlar provides excellent cut and abrasion resistance but no so good against piercing. You could, theoretically, make a suit of plate armor using bonded layers of kevlar like they did to make helmets but it, once again, might have to be pretty thick to offer any real protection. Kevlar is also not that light, it's lighter than steel certainly but having worn the 1st generation (PASGT) kevlar helmets and vests in the Marines they aren't as light as you'd think they'd be, especially the helmets.

    • @acaristic93
      @acaristic93 9 лет назад

      +Splinter5570 Well nothing too drastic really.Alex Shakeshaft makes a good point in his comments though.
      However you could make plate armor out of cheaper materials that are easier to produce-like tough plastic.
      It wouldn't offer the same amount of protection,but it would be lighter and easier and cheaper to produce if you needed to make it in big numbers.
      Also would probably be a bit less noisy and such.
      The main downside probably wouldn't be the amount of protection that would be smaller but rather than when your steel armor dents you can fix it up most of the time.
      If your plastic armor is damaged it'll break most likely and then you have to change the whole part that was broken instead of fixing it up in place.But the cheaper,easier to produce aspect would probably take care of that.
      It quite depends on what type of context you'd want to use it in.
      Whether it's for fighting in war...then you probably have other better options for todays battlefields.
      Or for police forces and such-might be viable in certain cases.
      Or for martial arts and combat sports and such activities-HEMA,BotN,SCA,LARP.... where they're would be plenty of uses for it as a cheap alternative for steel plate armor.
      Kind of like when we use synthetic wasters instead of steel longswords often.

  • @klyanadkmorr
    @klyanadkmorr 9 лет назад

    Are these ceremonial because there's not a dent or scratch on them as if used in battle for real.

  • @kuro_kishi
    @kuro_kishi 9 лет назад

    Doesn't anyone get a Demon's Souls vibe @ 1:10, the fluted armor?

  • @JojoCrazyCat
    @JojoCrazyCat 9 лет назад

    The armor of the men doing the fighting was different. Like the difference between a Generals cloths and a foot soldier today.

    • @Magmafrost13
      @Magmafrost13 9 лет назад +1

      +Jojo Gun Fang that makes a lot of sense. Especially considering that you'd have a hard time seeing through a lot of those helmets

    • @tobyman360
      @tobyman360 9 лет назад +5

      +Magmafrost13 those helmets commonly had vision that restricted, it was the only way to stop arrows, so knights would often close there helms when being fired upon by arrows then rase it slightly or remove it altogether when in close combat for better vision. Although this may be the most lavish armour (because the more common stuff would be destroyed or repurposed) armour such as this would have been used for fighting by richer/middle class soldiers.

    • @JojoCrazyCat
      @JojoCrazyCat 9 лет назад

      toby Hogan Yes. Much damage would be on that armor. This armor is a work of art. I was looking at the helmets when watching the video. I noticed was some bars going down in some of the slits. Was probably a little extra support, or a little more extra to keep swords and axes out from eyes. But i know very little about armor. I did study a tiny about places to try and use blades on armored people. Under arm pits, and near neck. The neck is always flexible. Even though i know i will never encounter that. I still like to know stuff. I have around 30 swords. Most are Japanese. A few are other. I cut one sword up and used the gold pommel on my motorcycles sissy bar. All my swords are probably made in China. But most are made well. I dont buy that cheap weak metal junk. I was always amazed about the Japanese armor. Made of wood and leather, with silk underneath.

  • @robnewman6101
    @robnewman6101 3 года назад

    Permission to enter to the Majesty's Armoury.

  • @The_Gallowglass
    @The_Gallowglass 9 лет назад +1

    And when they capture a guy wearing any of it they know he probably has a fortune to ransom himself. ;p

  • @qutini
    @qutini 9 лет назад

    would most of these armors originally been blue in colour?

  • @kiba3x
    @kiba3x 9 лет назад

    The spearhead will not glance because of the incrustations and the knight will receive it nicely in his body.
    The rich knights cry too.

    • @letummors922
      @letummors922 9 лет назад +1

      +kiba BG Andt then it would stll not penetrate because a normal spear thrust can't do that.

    • @kiba3x
      @kiba3x 7 лет назад

      Pikes I mean.

    • @funnyguy5746
      @funnyguy5746 5 лет назад +1

      Substandard Gamer Kiba Pikes neither

  • @Faerindel
    @Faerindel 9 лет назад

    Date and origin of the first armor? That's the archetypical conquistador helmet, the rest... Is a very ceremonial armor. :v

    • @Drayran
      @Drayran 9 лет назад +2

      +Faerindel
      The metal workings and their ancient theme remind me of the armour "alla romana" of Francesco Maria I. di Giovanni della Rovere. Armours like these were very popular with the italian nobility in the late 15th and the early 16th century.
      These armours were functional though they have a represntative aspect too.

    • @Riceball01
      @Riceball01 9 лет назад

      +Faerindel That style of helmet is generally referred to as a morion and was actually worn by soldiers from many different nations, including England, even if it is more commonly associated with Spain and the conquistadors in popular culture.

    • @Faerindel
      @Faerindel 9 лет назад

      Riceball01 Later I remembered that swiss pikemen are also known to wear morions as well, so yep! :p

  • @neapedoff
    @neapedoff 9 лет назад

    What sort of oil are they using on those?

  • @theknightofbadassness301
    @theknightofbadassness301 9 лет назад +1

    How did they get the gold stripes on the armour?

    • @funnyguy5746
      @funnyguy5746 5 лет назад

      Either painting or dissolving gold in mercury, then boiling the mercury off leaving the gold

    • @stefthorman8548
      @stefthorman8548 2 года назад

      Engraving

  • @JC-Denton
    @JC-Denton 9 лет назад

    Hmmm, the art of war ?!

  • @madcatmk213
    @madcatmk213 6 месяцев назад

    0:32 spanish?

  • @sushanalone
    @sushanalone 9 лет назад

    id rather surrender and keep these pieces than take them in battle to get destroyed by reality.

  • @balduccirichard
    @balduccirichard 9 лет назад

    the armor from the thumbnail has one shoulder piece much larger than the other, why is that?

    • @Mari0Wari0
      @Mari0Wari0 9 лет назад +3

      +Richard Novaes jousting, its called the grande-guarde

    • @balduccirichard
      @balduccirichard 9 лет назад

      Makes sense, thank you

    • @stefthorman8548
      @stefthorman8548 2 года назад

      Because you charge an enemy with your left side, so it has more protection.

  • @nobbynoris
    @nobbynoris 8 лет назад +1

    Never mind hyenas, what about trolls? By which I'm thinking of Tolkien's atavistic giants and not the various ludicrous dwarf-things of more recent folklore and Hollywood fantasy films.
    One blow from one of their warhammers and you'd be WISHING you had a hyena chewing on your knackers.

  • @PieterBreda
    @PieterBreda 9 лет назад

    some of these must have cost a fortune.

    • @exploatores
      @exploatores 9 лет назад

      +Pieter Batenburg Witch one do you Think, didn´t cost a smal fortune to make ?

    • @PieterBreda
      @PieterBreda 9 лет назад

      You are right of course

  • @camera31
    @camera31 9 лет назад

    how much would armors like this cost in today's money?

    • @KorKhan89
      @KorKhan89 9 лет назад +1

      +camera31 According to a documentary Toby Capwell did for BBC4, a top-quality suit of armour from Greenwich would be one of the most valuable things a nobleman might possess. And that included his entire household and estate. So let's say well into the multiple millions. Some of Elizabeth I's courtiers almost bankrupted themselves trying to one-up each other with finely decorated armours in the hope of grabbing the queen's attention for just one second. Surprisingly enough, the polishing, etching and gilding apparently cost way more than all the actual armour-making combined.

    • @camera31
      @camera31 9 лет назад

      KorKhan89 thank you very much for your reply!

    • @HaNsWiDjAjA
      @HaNsWiDjAjA 9 лет назад +1

      Check out this website:
      mailleisriveting.weebly.com/the-medieval-armorer.html

  • @medicinemandude8426
    @medicinemandude8426 9 лет назад +1

    Am I first?

    • @TheClanAdventures
      @TheClanAdventures 9 лет назад +8

      +MedicineManDude ask your wife not us ;)

    • @medicinemandude8426
      @medicinemandude8426 9 лет назад +6

      I'm gonna keep that question for this year's Christmas family dinner :)