Don't Overcomplicate Your Picking and Improve Your Timing

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  • Опубликовано: 14 дек 2024
  • In this video I discuss the distance that is traveled by outside picking and how it can cause your time to drift during fast soloing passages....and what to do to fix it.
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  • @latheofheaven1017
    @latheofheaven1017 2 месяца назад

    Hey Trace. New subscriber here. Have to agree on the economy picking thing. Was recently trying to play an old Jan Ackerman lick that is really at the absolute limit of my speed skills. Couldn't play it cleanly or in time. So I carefully figured out a better way to pick it. Starting the phrase on an upstroke and incorporating three economy-picking moves cracked it.

    • @Guitars-GearandMusic
      @Guitars-GearandMusic  2 месяца назад +1

      That is awesome. And that is what this video is about....but I must tell you....I have the hardest time starting licks on upstrokes. I will work out a solo that requires to start on the upstroke and damnit if I don't revert right back to starting on a downstroke every time. This little lick I play here...if I start on the up then those 3 big outside stroke turn into inside strokes and I work it out that way....then go right back to the down....so I just worked it out that way. Thanks for the sub my friend.

    • @latheofheaven1017
      @latheofheaven1017 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Guitars-GearandMusic You're welcome.
      Yes, it's odd to start on an upstroke, but I persisted for this one phrase only. It ultimately helped on this particular phrase, but had the side effect of making upstroke starts feel natural. I guess the goal of learning techniques is to get to the point you don't think about them anymore, and happily I think that has happened for me here. If you want, take a look at the video I made of that piece of music. The video is called 'Just a bit of Tommy (Focus)'.

    • @Guitars-GearandMusic
      @Guitars-GearandMusic  2 месяца назад +1

      @@latheofheaven1017 I will check it out right now. And yes. Kind of with economy picking. It took me a minute to get a feel for it and now it pretty much comes naturally.

    • @Guitars-GearandMusic
      @Guitars-GearandMusic  2 месяца назад +1

      @@latheofheaven1017 Nice. How do you like that guitar? I have tried them with the frets like that but I always wondered how well they will stay in tune when doing big bends. Do you notice anything different when bending on pitch? Also subed your channel bro.

    • @latheofheaven1017
      @latheofheaven1017 2 месяца назад

      @@Guitars-GearandMusic It' a MIM Strat with a retro-fitted True Temperament neck, and I love it.
      It's a very common question about bending strings, and I wondered myself before I bought it. The truth is, it made no difference. The first day I played it, I think I was slightly tentative as I tried to 'compensate' when bending behind particularly twisted frets, but then after ten minutes, I realised I hadn't been thinking about it for a while and I'd been bending to pitch fine anyway.
      It makes me wonder about what the process is mechanically and mentally as you bend a string. I used to think it was all about getting used to the feel of the tension of the string, but I'm thinking there's semi-conscious monitoring of the pitch playing a bigger part than I'd thought. Anyway, as I said, bending strings is absolutely fine.

  • @eddiejr540
    @eddiejr540 3 месяца назад

    I love the nerdy deep dive…well done Trace👍…btw, Yngwie and Eric Johnson are 2 of the masters of economy picking, so there ya go!!!!

    • @Guitars-GearandMusic
      @Guitars-GearandMusic  2 месяца назад +1

      Thanks my friend. Yeah, trying to explain my shortcomings in my head is easy....trying to explain them to someone else....sometimes not so easy. And yes...they are beast.

  • @Morstad64
    @Morstad64 2 месяца назад

    Good tips, Trace - thamks!

    • @Guitars-GearandMusic
      @Guitars-GearandMusic  2 месяца назад

      Thanks brother. Just trying to share some of my shortcomings and what I try to do to overcome them.

  • @the_legend_2763
    @the_legend_2763 3 месяца назад

    I like the new intro

    • @Guitars-GearandMusic
      @Guitars-GearandMusic  2 месяца назад +1

      Thanks dude. I appreciate it. The other intro was getting old. And it only took me a year to come up with a new one.

  • @wishinfishin8019
    @wishinfishin8019 12 дней назад

    Any tips on fast rhythm playing? I can play Bad Boys by Whitesnake, but it sounds messy. I've been trying for months to clean it up but can't. How does Sykes play it so fast and clean? Could you do a video on this or similar fast rhythm passages? Thanks

    • @Guitars-GearandMusic
      @Guitars-GearandMusic  11 дней назад

      First I have to ask what pick are you using? Second, he is really planting the side of his palm firmly against the trem system to anchor it down. Also, on this, the reason his sounds so clean is because he is more than likely doing this with a dry amp. Effects will muddy the hell out of the sound. any effects were probably added in post. Also you have to look at how big your pick swing is. You want to keep that to a minimum, which is harder to do than you think. I will see if I can break down a good video on this and get one shot. One last thing.....work on your down strokes. Think of all strokes as down strokes, except on the return pick the string back up. The faster your down strokes the faster your upstrokes. Look at James Hetfield, his right hand is amazing because of his ability to down stroke so fast, so when he turns it to alternate picking, he can simply fly.

    • @wishinfishin8019
      @wishinfishin8019 11 дней назад

      @Guitars-GearandMusic I'm using Fender 351 medium picks. Is there a better pick I should try for this style of playing? Thanks for the tips.

    • @angryguyhateseverything
      @angryguyhateseverything 9 дней назад

      @@wishinfishin8019 Absolutely. You should try a jazz pick like the dunlop jazz 3 for starters. They are much more accurate picks with a lot of attack. If you like John Petrucci, he plays with a jazz, as does most current shredders. V pick has some really nice ones also. The best jazz pick there is, is the blue chip. It literally glides across the strings but they are very expensive. It will take a minute to adjust to the size of the pick and how much attack it has....but it will make you a tighter player and with such a small contact area against the string you can push it through faster.

  • @thedarkseamusic
    @thedarkseamusic 2 месяца назад

    John P ertruci uses jazz picks. Which probably adds 20% speed to any player. Personally I don't like the sharp attack but man it add speed changing nothing to your playing.

    • @Guitars-GearandMusic
      @Guitars-GearandMusic  2 месяца назад

      I agree. It does add speed and I played with one and still do for years. I just did a video about this very thing talking about how as I have gotten older that I really don't like all that attack anymore. And after trying countless picks, the one I finally landed on. Check it out if you have time. ruclips.net/video/9BPilI6h3gk/видео.html

  • @mufasaputasa3599
    @mufasaputasa3599 2 месяца назад

    I am afraid that the person who said that one has to pick everything was one and only Al Di Meola.

  • @personalfreedom2700
    @personalfreedom2700 2 месяца назад

    I got faster, more accurate and overall better at picking when i stopped thinking about it altogethor…. I just track my fret work and somehow my picking hand does better that way

    • @Guitars-GearandMusic
      @Guitars-GearandMusic  2 месяца назад +1

      That is true....and I try to let me left hand dictate my right hand but sometimes that is hard. Then Occasionally I run into these little issues like this when there is 3 outside strokes and I noticed a slight time drift. Then I have to try and fix it.

    • @vinny5004
      @vinny5004 2 месяца назад

      Also helps to have time markers in your head of key notes, not try to count all of them. Create groupings of notes, so you’re brain focuses on hitting the exact time for the key notes and the orders fall in to place naturally

    • @personalfreedom2700
      @personalfreedom2700 2 месяца назад

      @@vinny5004 My brain can’t do that hahaha… you are smarter then me maybe… all my recordings are done without a click or a backing track, and its always perfect time and I literally don’t think at all about timing, becoz im so focussed on the fretboard and not messing up note selection,… i think after 25 years of playing some stuff becomes automatic and some stuff i just can’t develop.

    • @Guitars-GearandMusic
      @Guitars-GearandMusic  2 месяца назад

      @@vinny5004 I usually do it by grouping and when I learn I do it by chunking. Makes it a hell of a lot easier.

  • @chrislangowski4438
    @chrislangowski4438 2 месяца назад

    This whole explaination is overcomplicated. Whose solo you playing that you can't pick in time? Plus hammer ons and pull offs are used for this reason all the time. Some of the greatest guitarists might pick one of 3 notes but all have the same intensity.

    • @Guitars-GearandMusic
      @Guitars-GearandMusic  2 месяца назад

      It is complicated. I was explaining the difference in your picking when you have several notes that fall on outside picking and the fact that when making such large strokes as opposed to inside picking how the time of your picking hand cannot stay consistent. These are little things most people don't think about and I am talking about a technique to eliminate it and make it easier. It doesn't matter whose solo you are playing. The physics simply dictate the further you have to move the pick the faster you must move it to say in time with your left hand. The point...if you are having this issue, do this to fix it. And yes, I mention legato playing, but sometimes things need to be picked. Sometimes it just sounds wrong to use legato. And I use the hell out of legato. Then you have to know that not everyone wants to use legato. Some just want to pick everything.

    • @vinny5004
      @vinny5004 2 месяца назад

      Two words: economy picking. Or add legato if you aren’t fast enough. It is simple

    • @Guitars-GearandMusic
      @Guitars-GearandMusic  2 месяца назад

      @@vinny5004 Yeah that is what this video was about...economy picking. I love legato but sometimes things just need to be picked.