Philosophy Killed the Donkey! | Shamsi and Pavlov at Speakers Corner
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"Don't study philosophy it will make you think"
"no, Philosophy makes you majnoon" SHAMSI IS A LEGEND!
Aisha meaning those who don’t study philosophy don’t think? 🤭
Majnoon means?
Temujin Khan That doesn’t mean that at all.
@@gamingguru3979
It means crazy
@@SaidMetiche-qy9hb Genius are very rare. Crazy are everywhere.
Alhamdulillah for Islam
* Alhamdulillaah for Islam and Sunnah
الحمدلله
12:18 " my uncertainty is way more certain than your certainty "
Philosophy is dangerous than drugs. May Allah protect us all
If Shamsi was a judge he would end the case with "Look after yourself"....
Lol i love you shamsi akhi
🤣 or "take care of yourself" and walks away🤣🤣
The last one did the hit..."philosophy made a donkey kill himself"...may allaah bless me and our brothers doing dawah in knowledge which we all can act upon...
@solomon duncan We don't take your bible as a reliable source of information since it was written by 40 different authors and there are 450 different versions of it.
Clearly not the word of Almighty God.
The muslims don't descend from Ishmael but the Arabs do.
Have a great day wild donkey.
@solomon duncan lol.. And Jesus called Gentiles as dogs. What a shame to be a Gentile.
@solomon duncan you are Really a Wild Donkey😁 , Muslim Mean One Who Submits his will to One God . Jesus , Moses , Abraham , Noah was Muslim . They all submitted their will to One God .
@solomon duncan take care of yourself mate , you're suffering delusional ideology .
Philosophy will lead people astray. They ask why forever and never satisfied with any answer. Their questions will not save them on the day of judgement.
Yeh philosophy is garbage but Muslim apologists rely on philosophical arguments to provide their cosmic desert fairy.
@@kanewhitehead1522 Philosophy is all about the arguments. Yes there is bad in philosophy, just as there is good. With science you can make nuclear bombs or cure diseases, its about how you use it.
So Allah will punish you for asking Questions?
@@pas7768 no there is much proof that allah exist quran is full of miracles and prophet profecy came true not 1 but 70 came true and more in upcoming future
@@pas7768 No Allah swt will punish you if you turn away from the answers.
Pavlov like to hear himself talking.and he like to think that he make sence when he himself dont understand his own philosophy
This pavlov man are sick in the head.
hes the type of person that talks to himself in the mirror for hours
We should not call Allah father
😂😂
@@AbuBakr.Abdullah i agree.
😂😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
"... did they create the heavens and the earth? Nay, but they are sure of nothing!" - At-Tur:36
@City Of Charles Dirt
The bible is unscientific , a man made book written by 40 different authors.
Clearly not the word of God.
The earth is spherical and doesn't have corners.
Isaiah 11:12
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH. (KJV)
Revelation 7:1
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. (KJV)
Job 38:13
13 That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? (KJV)
@City Of Charles Dirt Ok so it is still flat can you explain me how a sphere has 4 extremities and doesn't move?Psalm 96:10: "He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ..." cmon ...
@City Of Charles Dirt This is your explanation but the text suggests otherwise.Wich of your scholars explained the verse like that?
The surface of the earth i.e. earth's crust is less than 30 miles in thickness and is very thin as compared to the radius of the earth which is about 3750 miles. The deeper layers of the earth are very hot, fluid and hostile to any form of life. The earth's crust is a solidified shell on which we can live. The Qur'an rightly refers to it like a carpet spread out, so that we can travel along its roads and paths.
2. Carpet can also be spread on other than an absolute flat surface
Not a single verse of the Qur'an says that the earth is flat. The Qur'an only compares the earth's crust with a carpet. Some people seem to think that carpet can only be put on an absolute flat surface. It is possible to spread a carpet on a large sphere such as the earth. It can easily be demonstrated by taking a huge model of the earth's globe covering it with a carpet.
Carpet is generally put on a surface, which is not very comfortable to walk on. The Qur'an describes the earth crust as a carpet, without which human beings would not be able to survive because of the hot, fluid and hostile environment beneath it. The Qur'an is thus not only logical; it is mentioning a scientific fact that was discovered by geologists centuries later.
He Who assigned to you, created [for you], the earth for a couch, like a carpet that is laid out, neither extremely hard, nor extremely soft so as to make it impossible to stand firm upon it; and heaven for an edifice, like a roof; and sent down from the heaven water, wherewith He brought forth, all types of, fruits for your provision; so set not up compeers to God, that is partners in worship, while you know that He is the Creator, that you create not and that only One that creates can be God. (Jalal ud-Din Siyuti, Tafsir al-Jalalayn, Commentary on Surah 2:22,
@@السلفالصالح-ل7و Well said brother. MashAllah.
@@السلفالصالح-ل7و bro come on your Muslim that's a bit disingenuous to say " four corners of the earth " is really a scientific mistake unless there is some context you have missed out
That's just terminology
Just like if one says you have a bad heart or impure heart for example
Plus there are Sooo many scientific problems in the Bible you can find much more clear verses than that
All who refuse the existance of ALLAH
Is like a fish refused the existance of water😂
Good example
It's written ma sha Allah. It's written in sha Allah . It's written Allahu akbar. Its written subhana Allah. In islam we aren't allowed to make faces so we shouldn't be using emojis
@@majjsmamaysi6277 where did you get that from?
@@AshG321M he made it up
Their example is worse than a fish denying water... (which idek if it has ever happened)
Wallah Shamsi always amazes me. His knowledge and strong confident attitude shuts down any person who talks to him in a rude way. They never win. MashaAllah may all bless and protect brother Shamsi and InshaAllah he never stops spreading the truth of Islam. Thank you Shamsi
Donkey's example was insane!!! Shamsi Rocks!!
I'm originally from Morrocco.
And i love to see my Algerian brother Shamsi debate.
I recognize my temper when i see his.
May Allah reward you brother Shamsi.
You talk with knowledge and sometimes put in some comedy along with it.
I use the points you using when i debate a Christian.
Very strong points .
May Allah love you and you're loved ones.
WagalaikoemAssalaam.
This is the difference:
Philosophy = Nothing exists. Nothing is true.
Science = We know what is true beyond reasonable doubt. There is a margin of error in everything. We think we are right but we could be found to be totally wrong. Until then we’ll assume we’re not.
Pavlov = Doesn’t know he exists or what is real/true
Shamsi = I have in my possession what is true - I don’t know everything about this truth yet - but I’m learning.
Qur’an = 100% truth. There is no margin of error. And this reality is an illusion - a temporary abode where we are tested and surrounded with signs of a Creator.
When a follower of science resorts to a pseudoscience like philosophy, you know he’s clutching.
May Allah guide us all.
Mashallah khoya shamsi Allah yahmik akhi may Allah protect you and all the dawah team .inshallah.
from Algeria
Shamsi looks injured i pray he recovers quickly ameen
Eastern European philosopher
Algerian knows how to deal with this type of fools
This Arrogant Pavlov is always into himself LOL!!!
Hijab's Ikhwani Philosophy: "Let us cooperate in that which we agree and excuse each other in that which we disagree."
Pavlov's Greek Philosophy: "Let us coexist in that which we agree and excuse each other in that which we disagree."
Shaykh Al-Islām Ibn Taymiyyah رحمه الله
said:
”Philosophical logic is like the flesh of a camel at the top of a mountain. It is not easy to climb the mountain, nor is the flesh good enough to justify climbing, nor is the path leading to it easy to follow.’’
He رحمه الله
also said: ”There are no philosophers upon right guidance.”
He رحمه الله
also said: ‘’Islām does not have philosophers."
[Source: Naseehat Ahl Al-Eemaan Fee Radd Alaa Mantiq Al-Yunaan. pg: 157]
That last line " Philosophy makes you Majnoon" 😄
I ask Allah to keep you firm and to have sabr with these kind of people! JazakAllahu khayran Ustadh Shamsi✨
Without any doubt, Islam is the truth, watching these videos make faith stronger and stronger.
Should i eat grass or drink water?
I'm dead 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Alhamdulillahi I am muslim
Baraka laho fikom🙏
Pavlov is just waffling for the sake of woffling 😂
Nobody:
Shamsi: logic dictates
4.15 mins cracked me up!
"So you are sure based upon you touching yourself . "
How condescending is this philosopher.
May Allaah guide him and may he look back on this and change ameen!
3:26 "My feelings tell me I do exist"
You are depending on your feelings, no matter how misguided or washed they are.
I believe Pavlov is in speaker corner for the sake of learning a debating skill...nothing to do with "belief" or whatever subjects whatsoever.
Love how Shamsi deals with all those hard headed ppl. No point in arguing with someone that doesnt know weather he is here there everywhere or no where.
MashAllah shamsi looking like a tank wallahi, do you do boxing training/do weight lifting?
yh he does both
@@wolf-qe5ol
Does he have an Instagram account?
Alhamdulilah for Islam
وعبادالرحمن الذين يمشون على الارض هونا وإذا خاطبهم الجاهلون قالو سلاما🤗
Pavlov says he's certain about uncertainty and in the same breath he says uncertainty is more probable. If you are certain about an outcome, how do you then say that the outcome is probable? Is he listening to himself?
ha ha..philosophy makes u majnoon
😂🤣
SAME QUESTIONS FOR YEARS WITH THIS GUY. PAVLOV JUST DO THE RESEARCH ON YOUR OWN AT THIS POINT WOW
"NO!, Philosophy makes you MAJNOON" hahaha
الله يعطيك الصبر اخي شمسي مع هذا الناس جهال
Skeptics doubt everything except for their skepticism which is self-contradictory.
philosophy makes you majoon
bro shamsi
You know its over when Shamsi says look after yourself...may Allah accept the good from him, forgive him his sins, and continue to aid him in clarifying the truth
بارك الله فيك يا أخي ،أخوك ياسين من مراكش يحييك 🙋🏻♂️
Pavlov is getting crazier everyday ! Poor guy!
This Pavlo is clueless. Shamsi totally refuted his ridiculous argument. He tries to hard to be smart but he never achieves it.
This guy is here for the camera
Pavlov is a good soul, he does not insult anyone or Islam, May Allah guide him to truth. Brother Shamsi is a legend
Someone who denies Allaah and His Final Messenger is a lost soul not a good soul.
Self absorbed, looking down on Muslims, thinking we need to humble ourselves and learn his rubbish...
Well done shamsi for destroying his arguments with a donkey!
Its what he deserves, May Allah guide him ameen.
the one is back lol love bro shamsi
What a rude man, one who insults others are foolish. Good job brother shamsi. May Allah swt guide this man to truth amee .
Doubting yourself because others perceive you differently to how you perceive yourself is weak philosophy from pavlov.
Eg: Police Identification of Pavlov will say - white, 5ft +, hair/eye colour etc.
Same as someone who potentially witnesses pavlov commit a crime close up or chats with him in speakers corner.
Pavlov would describe himself the same way.
So 3+ separate entities, with different minds, evidence what pavlov looks like and that he exists.
His insistence that he is uncertain of his existence is his pet philosophy which makes him feel superior to others and childlike he follows that desire.
May Allah SWT guide us all
This guy pavlov is not looking for answers, he only looks for more and more questions, if he only tried once to look for answer, he will find it very close to him. Allah says : "we didn't reveal the Quran to you to make you suffer"
Subhan Allah, he knows the secrets glory be to him.
Philosophy didn't guide the polytheist Greeks to the worship of Allah, how would it help us muslims to understand the creed (Al Akida).
I have to admire shamsi patience while talking to this pavlov.
from my "point of view".... i see my fart walking and talking at speakers corner!
He says he doubts everything, but he becomes a believer when he crosses a highway, or does he have a doubt that a car will crush him if he's not careful?
Mashallah aleki shamsi ❤❤
It’s very scary how people can’t answer the simplest questions that humans can think of, all because of their uncertainty and philosophy. Very scary times to see these people exist
Shamsi is looking wham these days MashAllah!
So he says he's certain about his uncertainty and he has no doubt about his doubts. So he just proved he is certain and has no doubte about his belief,
'My uncertainty is way more certain than you certainty'
Is that a certain statement?
If yes : It contradicts your statement
If no (it's an uncertain statement) - Enough said
Makes no sense
Hamdollah your English,arabic is on top brother Shamsi
What is the point of arguing philosophy with this narcissist?
Pavlov doubts about his idea that we should doubt about our ideas
Am I exist ?
Reality : Yes
Philosophy : No
Why does Pavlov go to the park and argue with muslims all the time?
He debates everybody. Thats gotta be his hobby
He in deniable the truth. Trying hard to reject the truth. This is what happened.
Pavlov is a waste of time like James. He has a little bit more manners but talks without sense.
Can we please not compare pavlov to james......i know pavlov has his own issues but James is a completely different story.....i just can't stand him 😪
It's funny these guys like Pavlov and James portray themselves as intellects. James brings out his loose notes, Pavlov takes a philosophical tangent of *uncertainty* . When countered with arguments, they belittle their opposition saying they are less intelligent. James and Pavlov are the laughing storks being pseudo intellects. They have no intentions to learn Islam. But only to mock Islam, and claim Muslims aren't intelligent. That's just creating a wrong branding or stereotyping of Muslims. Better to avoid such folks.
"My uncertainty is more certain than your certainty"
Then how can you be certain of your certain that your certainty of your uncertainty is certain. And son on, hence leading into a infinite regress.
What a fool
Don't forget that Abu Bakr RA was Caliph for a short time only so that means six months after the death of Muhammad PBUH, the Quran was already being collected...
11:05 look how Pavlov dodge a simple question when he was caught
he even did it again 11:57
اخر شي الفلسفة تخليك مجنون ههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههه
Jahmiyyah run on philosophy
"YOU'RE POINTING AT ME, YOU'RE BRING AGGRESSIVE" c'mon mate.
Shamsi: “Do I exist?”
Him: “No”
Also him later: “We’re co-existing in this society”
Bro confused himself
"ya maybe i said something else" ....
even after taking weed and RAW whiskey people dont get that drunk!
الله اكبر ..... الله اكبر..........الله اكبر ..... الله اكبر😏😏😏😏
9:56 look how he pulls opinions from thin air and force it upon others
I have this feeling that pavlov think that he is somekind of though guy..
Why waste time with this creature? Is there any benefit?
Who remember Peter pavlov is like Peter dont waste your time
ComPOUND ...!! Lol shamsi macha Allah may Allah give you al firdaus
Shamsi right...philosophy make u majnun😁😁😁
Do you believe i exist?
No
Do you believe i am talking to you ?
Yes
You don't believe my existence but my action ... Right ?
Ummmm
Emaan and without emaan are way too different thing.
"pavlov" your trouble is that you've been swallowing Bob the builders pork sword way too often.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 the joke at the end
Hehehe... You made the long story short... 👍
LOL 13:22, First time Dr G is sighted
If you're not sure that you exist, then that will be a waste of time speaking to you. There will be no benefit for you.
I think brother Shamsi speaks only to benefit other people, he doesn't speak only for the sake of debate. If there's no benefit then it's a waste of time.
The doubt man think he's intelligent but sound confuse. 😁
Asssalamualaikum DUS Dawah, can you have discussion with Ahli Kalam like the Al Asyairah?
Has Pavlov ever criticised Christianity
I have never seen him criticising any other religion except islam
Very funny debate. But doubting oneself is not philosophical at all. In fact, a French philosopher of the 17th century by the name of Descartes has shown that we cannot doubt our own existence, because the simple fact that we are doubting proves that we exist. For there to be doubts, necessarily there must be someone who is doubting! Pavlov is not philosophical at all by doubting his own existence. It is a contradiction to doubt our own existence. Pavlov really talks a lot of nonsense. He should accept Islam for his problems to be resolved.
Shamsi; I think the guy have a crush on you...Thank you for being patient with him.👊
What happen to shamsi brother, why he is holding ths stick?
He injured his back, May Allah cure him and keep him in good health to worship him
Ameen ya Rabb!
Assalamu Alaikum DUS Dawah. Are you allowed to disclose what mosque Br Shamsi teaches at? If you dont want to disclose it on this public wall, kindly message me directly.
Thank you
Wa aleykum assalam
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@@DUSDawah jazak Allah
I think some people have clicked that if we go talk crazy to Muslims with knowledge they get higher viewers volume
It's written ma sha Allah. It's written in sha Allah . It's written Allahu akbar. Its written subhana Allah. In islam we aren't allowed to make faces so we shouldn't be using emojis
I'm in a dream lol
Confused