NHS child gender clinic: Staff concerns date back more than a decade - BBC Newsnight

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
  • Newsnight has obtained a copy of a review into the NHS’s only child gender clinic from 2005, led by the then medical director Dr David Taylor. The review reveals safeguarding concerns had been raised by some staff back then, fifteen years ago. Please subscribe HERE bit.ly/1rbfUog
    The NHS announced that an independent review is to take place into gender identity services for children and young people, with a focus on how care can be improved.
    It’s an area of healthcare that Newsnight has covered several times over the last year, and which is rapidly changing.
    Newsnight has learned that staff concerns about some practices at the NHS’s specialist children’s clinic date back more than a decade.
    Newsnight’s Health Correspondent Deborah Cohen reports and this film was produced by Hannah Barnes.

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  • @logicmanX
    @logicmanX 4 года назад +258

    Transitioning kids due to their anxiety over not fitting into gender stereotypes is sick.

    • @JackHaveman52
      @JackHaveman52 Год назад +1

      It's worse than that. Young teenagers, going through the angst of puberty, are being told that their anxieties are likely caused by gender dysphoria. They're given packaged solutions which can result in big profits for those selling those solutions. Throw ideology into the mix and guess who bears the brunt of their idealism and greed. Teenagers and their families....and if you question these ideological and economic profiteers, they hide behind their accusations of bigotry. Incredibly, people are falling for this scam.

    • @queenjasminetemaiharoa7009
      @queenjasminetemaiharoa7009 10 месяцев назад +2

      Exactly!😤 There's no other honest way of putting it.💔

  • @maxxwellbeing5208
    @maxxwellbeing5208 2 года назад +62

    Pure, intentional child abuse. Any clinician who refers a child under 18 years of age should lose their license and be jailed for chlld abuse.

    • @berlumpslumples875
      @berlumpslumples875 Год назад

      As a 17 year old you make me very uncomfortable and I feel not only groomed but undermined

  • @weeblywinkleman6410
    @weeblywinkleman6410 3 года назад +52

    Turns out, questioning things is in the best interest of children

  • @ljduk7595
    @ljduk7595 4 года назад +91

    Sick abuse of children. It's a mental health issue, too many have regrets, too many suicide. Wtf is wrong with the world.

    • @ljduk7595
      @ljduk7595 4 года назад +5

      @@dominic197733 ridiculous kids can't have piercings or tattoos until they're 18. But they can be mutilated by surgeons.

    • @vanessaford8630
      @vanessaford8630 Год назад

      It is a mental health issue for some but not all, there definitely can be underlying issues also. Tavistock was too overrun. I did read somewhere that 8 clinics around the UK are to be opened up sometime, better than it being in one centre only

  • @starrya5647
    @starrya5647 4 года назад +211

    Finally, we are seeing more research into this topic rather than being told it is hate speech to question anything

    • @Lunarfacia
      @Lunarfacia 3 года назад +6

      You've never been told that question things is hate speech.

    • @naryainc
      @naryainc 3 года назад +9

      @@Lunarfacia Yes, because questioning means you don't understand and can't relate and are clearly coming out of fear and hatred towards people who are different than you.

    • @saoirse2963
      @saoirse2963 3 года назад +33

      @@Lunarfacia Yes we have. I've been called Transphobic and TERF because I dare say that I think doctors/gender clinics are hasting to affirm and go on to transition without exploring possible reasons behind the will to transition, such as sexual abuse. Just yesterday I said that and was deemed transphobic for it.

    • @tetrahedron1000
      @tetrahedron1000 3 года назад +15

      @@naryainc Therefore, we should all live in a dictatorship where we are not allowed to say anything, because you said so.

    • @bloochoob
      @bloochoob Год назад +2

      I think because many of the questioners are definitely rooted in transphobia, not genuine or neutral questions, and faux concern trolling. None of them know any trans people but always talk over them. I’m not trans, but I’d listen to the experiences of trans people before having an opinion

  • @annalieff-saxby568
    @annalieff-saxby568 4 года назад +151

    I'm a left-winger, but think child gender reassignment is an unbelievably stupid idea. Unless there is a physical reason for surgery, it should be deferred until the age of majority. I'd add that I think the same of circumcision.

    • @justahumanbeing.709
      @justahumanbeing.709 4 года назад +14

      Circumcision is MGM!!

    • @Lee-bv7tj
      @Lee-bv7tj 4 года назад +4

      They don't do surgery, it's medicine to delay the choice either way

    • @BahliPadma
      @BahliPadma 4 года назад +7

      Hey, I was curious about this too and looked it up. Surgery is not on the table for minors. Instead, a medication ("puberty blockers") that halts sexual development delays puberty while they receive counseling regarding what choices they plan to make going forward. I found the Mayo Clinic site to be informative and helpful, and hope it helps you too: www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/in-depth/pubertal-blockers/art-20459075

    • @annalieff-saxby568
      @annalieff-saxby568 4 года назад +9

      @@strightway4503 WILL you stop bombarding me with religious propaganda? It's not appreciated (from ANY religion, before you get your knickers in a twist). I consider evangelism to be spam and report it as such. Go sell your sky-fairy to someone else.

    • @feggerfinlay
      @feggerfinlay 4 года назад +29

      @@BahliPadma Surgery is not done under 18 in UK but is routinely carried out in the US. Even some 11 year olds have mastectomies. Puberty blockers have not been properly tested for blocking rather than delaying puberty and therefore any child being administered them is basically being experimented on

  • @liveontheverandah
    @liveontheverandah 2 года назад +23

    Women and a few men have been warning about this for years and have consequently been bullied- lost jobs- threatened. But the BBC have consistently refused to give balanced coverage. Now the clinic has been closed becaue it’s UNSAFE, you finally give the concerns some coverage.

  • @liveontheverandah
    @liveontheverandah 2 года назад +16

    You need to investigate Mermaids who are largely responsible for pushing this damaging ideology to children’s parents

  • @mertysrowen1954
    @mertysrowen1954 3 года назад +44

    Sure we had Graham Linehan saying exactly this a while back and being considered a bigot for doing so

    • @mertysrowen1954
      @mertysrowen1954 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/e79k6LILL1I/видео.html

    • @leafleafleaf9272
      @leafleafleaf9272 3 года назад +2

      Wrote a long third parter, which has gone now. Ok, being quick, in this theory, trans ppl are not trying to reinforce sex stereotypes. It’s more likely a
      subconscious thing, absorbing ideas about gender from a young age, and then experiencing mental pain, from a disconnect to our body, that could come from this. To conclude: 1)have words for biological sex 2)encourage having new words to describe gender identity 3) one sympathetic, very sympathic 4)Convince that there MIGHT be a problem in safeguarding children, raised by the whole gender thing, this leading to proposing research into why ppl are trans (more research, goddammit) as a way of HELPING trans ppl. We have to stress the agreement on that, to decrease the likelihood of a Nazi comparison. 5)After that, encourage questioning, as a way of helping the gender thing, not being a bigot 6)And vaush like ppl, stop saying oppression had nothing to do with biology. Yes, a transwoman can look like a biological women. If this trans person walks to down the street, and a sexist prick (who perceives her as a biological woman) decides to assault her or something, that transwomen should be able to describe her experience. I could compare it to a straight guy being a target of homophobia bullying, because ppl decide they “seem gay”.

    • @leafleafleaf9272
      @leafleafleaf9272 3 года назад

      I know I’ve done a whole bloody essay on how hard this is to talk abt, but someone might appreciate it. I’ve had a long, respectful conversation with a transwomen on RUclips (seriously), and I felt like I could share some ideas on how to tackle this thing.

    • @tetrahedron1000
      @tetrahedron1000 3 года назад

      @@leafleafleaf9272 Concerning the last sentence, I did get that as a teenager but that was back in the 70s.

    • @leafleafleaf9272
      @leafleafleaf9272 3 года назад +1

      I just think... the current method of treatment is effective, in that ppl are happier afterwards, generally. But I also wonder, “woman” used to refer to biological sex, and if someone is unable to cope with that meaning of the word, or a word, maybe we should understand more about gd. We are going to have words for biological sex in humans, so if it’s something that causes mental distress, shouldn’t this be investigated as mental disorder?

  • @HIVELESSB
    @HIVELESSB 4 года назад +92

    Finally, some journalism from the BBC.

    • @ce5890
      @ce5890 2 года назад +4

      They've shat themselves at the rate people are cancelling their TV licences

  • @janeburke147
    @janeburke147 4 года назад +27

    The BBC were in favour of all this #Defundthebbc

    • @bobkrazynski2205
      @bobkrazynski2205 4 года назад

      No they weren't dumbass, the bbc investigates everything

    • @-Shadesofmeaning
      @-Shadesofmeaning 4 года назад +7

      @@bobkrazynski2205 Well the BBC have been busy silencing objectors and supporting those who said looking into what was going on was 'transphobia' so they deserve a bit of the blame. The very fact that people are seeing this as a new thing is a reflection of how the media helped with that. A lot of us have known for many years.

    • @bobkrazynski2205
      @bobkrazynski2205 4 года назад

      @@-Shadesofmeaning no you haven't, you just hate trans people because they're different

    • @bobkrazynski2205
      @bobkrazynski2205 3 года назад

      @patt l dude edit your comment again it still makes no sense

    • @bobkrazynski2205
      @bobkrazynski2205 3 года назад

      @patt l dude edit your comment again it still makes no sense

  • @bdale5231
    @bdale5231 3 года назад +68

    I'm very surprised (and pleased) to see the BBC putting this out!

    • @themikaylashow1987
      @themikaylashow1987 2 года назад

      The BBC are very clearly transphobic. They wouldn't shut up about the kiera Bell case,kiera had top surgery aged 20 when she WAS an adult

    • @ProkofNY
      @ProkofNY 2 года назад +6

      I hope this represents a turning point that the begging to repudiate wokeness as the intolerant pseudo-religious ideology that it is.

  • @Jessicajanelove
    @Jessicajanelove 2 года назад +10

    15 years of damage

  • @QwadLuzr
    @QwadLuzr 4 года назад +59

    *YOU'VE PUSHED THIS AGENDA BBC*

  • @dixiewrecked2165
    @dixiewrecked2165 4 года назад +54

    So you can't get a tooth implant on the NHS but you can get your bollocks clipped before they even sprout any hair? Makes sense

    • @vivienneandersson6019
      @vivienneandersson6019 4 года назад +4

      what are you talking about? No one under 18 is given a sex change operation

    • @butterflyn6525
      @butterflyn6525 4 года назад +1

      Richard R disturbing to say the least

    • @jeenadjo1238
      @jeenadjo1238 4 года назад +11

      @@vivienneandersson6019 but they undergo hormone treatments, a lot of brainwashing and support for their illusions that build up throughout the year so by the age of 18 they're ready to transit in sometimes a trip of no return....

    • @vivienneandersson6019
      @vivienneandersson6019 3 года назад

      @@jeenadjo1238have you ever suffered from gender dysphoria?

    • @tetrahedron1000
      @tetrahedron1000 3 года назад

      @@vivienneandersson6019 In the US, the age is 16. It's creepy.

  • @mre7550
    @mre7550 3 года назад +16

    The whole idea of messing with children's bodies is sick

  • @FuriousP14
    @FuriousP14 4 года назад +53

    Unfortunately due to severe levels of confirmation bias, if a trans activist tries to view this video they just see static and hear white noise

  • @katarina4269
    @katarina4269 4 года назад +47

    Shocking. The court cases will take the Tavistock apart.

    • @mre7550
      @mre7550 3 года назад +5

      Lets hope so

  • @Cappellano
    @Cappellano 4 года назад +36

    People have been speaking out about this for much longer than 15 years and it has only become more concerning. The fact that LGBTQI therapists are also challenging the practices of gender clinics should be a massive red flag, but sadly they will also be swept under the rug too.

  • @pyujeh6207
    @pyujeh6207 4 года назад +37

    There is nothing remotely surprising about any of this.

  • @flossypark3169
    @flossypark3169 2 года назад +15

    It’s disgusting it has taken this long to get this to a point where it is now being talked about! 🤬🤬🤬

  • @lfeb
    @lfeb 3 года назад +14

    The reason...$$$$. I have a lot of gay friends and a gay daughter, but after years of experience I'm quite sure that very few people who question their identity will actually be happier with a sex change treatment. I've known 1 or 2, but it's not the norm for gay people. Most of these kids are not getting the psychology they need

  • @alicastro3777
    @alicastro3777 4 года назад +23

    This is child abuse -

  • @moonboy2022
    @moonboy2022 4 года назад +41

    This is sick.

  • @Marc_Lambert
    @Marc_Lambert 4 года назад +27

    Encouraging kids to ‘transition’ is child abuse.

    • @Marc_Lambert
      @Marc_Lambert 4 года назад +3

      Marianne Havisham Children are being encouraged to go on puberty blockers and get hormone therapy which damages their mental and physical health. It’s manipulation and child abuse.

    • @Marc_Lambert
      @Marc_Lambert 4 года назад +3

      Marianne Havisham You must be deaf. The NHS staff literally admitted they were encouraging it in the video.

    • @Marc_Lambert
      @Marc_Lambert 4 года назад +2

      Marianne Havisham Puberty blockers and hormone therapy makes them infertile for the rest of their life.

    • @Marc_Lambert
      @Marc_Lambert 4 года назад +3

      Marianne Havisham There’s no evidence showing it relieves the condition. The trans suicide rate is astronomically high (even after transition surgery). It harms more people than it saves.

    • @Marc_Lambert
      @Marc_Lambert 4 года назад +2

      Marianne Havisham I don’t care if you ‘feel’ insulted by the facts that I’ve told you. The truth hurts sometimes.

  • @darkspy666
    @darkspy666 3 года назад +10

    The Tavistock Centre should be closed down and the parents pushing for their children to transition should be locked up for abuse!!

  • @dragontoro
    @dragontoro 4 года назад +28

    Thank you, Deborah Cohen, Hannah Barnes and the BBC. This information is vital for the safety of children and youth.

    • @JackHaveman52
      @JackHaveman52 Год назад

      I'm not going to criticise Cohen or Barnes because they're individuals and I don't know their personal stories, but the BBC refused to cover this stuff until AFTER they announced the clinic was to be closed. They should have been reporting on it when the rise in referrals skyrocketed. A 4000% increase in referrals to the Tavistock clinic is more than enough to raise eyebrows. There's no way a single referral could balloon to 4000 in less than 10 years.

  • @davidrobertsemail
    @davidrobertsemail 4 года назад +21

    Turns out we were right.
    It is child abuse

  • @ophs1980
    @ophs1980 4 года назад +19

    If the 2006 report was irrelevant, why did they fight so hard for so long to keep it hidden? I'm a liberal Democrat and a member of the LGBT community, but the idea of putting children who may be suffering from autism, depression, or who may be dealing with their sexual orientation on puberty blockers is very troubling. Some of the effects of these drugs can cause irreversible psychological and physical damage to people who weren't actually suffering from gender dysphoria, but had other issues that puberty blockers wouldn't solve. There needs to some follow up with the children who were treated at the clinic during the last 15 years in order to see how their lives have effected

  • @fabrizio483
    @fabrizio483 4 года назад +18

    So it turns out that giving hormones to little children raised suspicion from the start? You don't say!

  • @deanconnor5528
    @deanconnor5528 4 года назад +25

    So if I take all the ford logos off my car and put Ferrari logos on, dose that mean I have a Ferrari?

    • @BahliPadma
      @BahliPadma 4 года назад +3

      Nah, just a dude with a false equivalence again.

    • @swarm69
      @swarm69 4 года назад +2

      this report wasnt that gender transition and trans people are bad... but you just go on with your small-minded bigoted shit sir.

    • @deanconnor5528
      @deanconnor5528 4 года назад +2

      @@swarm69 it's true tho whatever ur born as that's ur gender all the surgeries in the world cant change that.. sounds mean but it's true if a man had a sex change to be a woman he still isnt a woman.. he cant have children as a woman can he..

    • @brittanydawn2633
      @brittanydawn2633 3 года назад +3

      It's not bigoted and hateful to tell scientific truths

    • @deanconnor5528
      @deanconnor5528 3 года назад +1

      @@brittanydawn2633 exactly

  • @sarahstrong7174
    @sarahstrong7174 3 года назад +10

    Right from the beginning this whole thing has been fraught with difficulties. Nothing should be done untill other issues have been dealt with. So many people having changed are not happy, suicidal even.

  • @juliam3980
    @juliam3980 2 года назад +3

    And now it's being closed. Took long enough.

  • @EndExtinction
    @EndExtinction 4 года назад +16

    Wtaf?

  • @lalruatpuiikhiangte7030
    @lalruatpuiikhiangte7030 Год назад +3

    On one hand we accept that children cannot consent to sex, cannot vote, drive or drink alcohol … but when it comes to taking powerful hormones and irreversible surgeries , they can do so with no checks and balances ? Yes that does make sense 🥺

  • @FreyofKtau
    @FreyofKtau 2 года назад +4

    this video is now almost two years old and only now the cilinic has been shut down and is most likely facing a massive lawsuit from about 1.000 people.
    How many young people could have been saved from his horrible fate of gitting "affirmation treatment" when having completely other problems :(

  • @annenymety209
    @annenymety209 2 года назад +8

    I’m impressed BBC had the 🏐🏐 to actually cover this

    • @siriuslili
      @siriuslili 2 года назад

      No, it would have been ballsy if they’d covered this story years ago when concerned people were raising the alarm. Instead, they jumped on the bandwagon of labeling anyone with concerns or questions as trasphobes, bigots, conspiracy nuts, and fascists. Only now, that people inside this monstrous machine are speaking out, only now that the cat is out of the bag, only now that the place has been shut down over safety concerns are they covering this story. This doesn’t make them ballsy. It reveals how deep BBCs self-interest runs. They have no choice but to cover this scandal. This is the BBC saving face, not them showing courage.

  • @lw1zfog
    @lw1zfog 2 года назад +4

    The Tavistock Institute & Eugenics - know your history

  • @Jordan-pf9ws
    @Jordan-pf9ws 4 года назад +5

    There are questions about the evidence because there is so little of it!! This is new there are no long term studies yet. Just staff worried about covering their own a$$.

  • @jonnsonsam
    @jonnsonsam 4 года назад +9

    But you were telling us all how stunning and brave indoctrinating kids was for years BBC???

  • @Leroyy536
    @Leroyy536 2 года назад +2

    BBC normally supports these groups

  • @leafleafleaf9272
    @leafleafleaf9272 3 года назад +15

    Okay, let’s just say something. Even if there isn’t problem, we should talk about this, share studies etc. We need to stop with so many accusations of being a bigot or “terf”, because they can be used to frame any questioning related to this topic (e.g. what about kids pushed to transition because of homophobia, or because of a mental “root” problem), as an inherently hateful thing. We’re not trying to be hateful to trans youth, we’re trying to help them .

  • @777franko9
    @777franko9 4 года назад +43

    I want everyone one to love themselves and express themselves 100%. But if you’re a child that’s ‘questioning’ their gender identity, I don’t think you should make any permanent changes until you’re done questioning and fully answered on who you are and who you want to be. Love everyone though 🤘🏾

    • @dot4464
      @dot4464 4 года назад +9

      Twitter would call you transphobic for this

    • @raquetdude
      @raquetdude 4 года назад +6

      No-one would call you a transphobic person for saying this.
      The issue is that the process includes “hormone blockers” they block hormones they don’t destroy them. The process is not permanent in anyway.

    • @777franko9
      @777franko9 4 года назад +6

      Dot lol man you’re not lying 😭😭 I just don’t want anyone to make a mistake and regret it. There are plenty of trans people who end up regretting their decision and then they end up unhappy and some even commit suicide. It’s fucked up 😞

    • @777franko9
      @777franko9 4 года назад +4

      will a true but I still feel like the medical knowledge on hormone blockers is still pretty new. Just like with most medical advances, we never know about the long term or adverse effects until we have years of data to examine

    • @fioredeutchmark
      @fioredeutchmark 4 года назад +5

      will a wow more lies. You clearly have zero knowledge of science. Changing the hormone balance of a pubescent or prepubescent human will be unalterable in the future. You can’t just give a 40 year old the hormones they should have had a 15 and call it a day. You people are so dangerously ignorant I wish freedom of speech wasn’t a thing.

  • @MrFurling
    @MrFurling 4 года назад +10

    There is nothing wrong with people who wish or want to change their gender but children and them under 18 years old, should not really be allowed to change gender!
    They could make a big mistake in there lives as a child. So it should only be offered to 18+ and old enough, to know if it's right for them or not.

    • @unbroken1010
      @unbroken1010 3 года назад +2

      Without a doubt I mean what did everybody expect raising their kids on genderless phones and video games push your kids outside get them back to some play dates get them socializing and throw away the video games . Unfortunately there's a lot of programming and grooming going on I don't know what happened to the old school gay community they never would have let this stuff happened Unfortunately they can't be the gatekeeper anymore

  • @ysvry
    @ysvry 4 года назад +8

    great item but where is the link to that gidu report ? and what was the ratio of boys and girls being forced into gender changing? Travistock does ring a bel related to military experimentation though.
    Maybe good to do a follow up item on how live is going for those kids now ?

    • @ysvry
      @ysvry 4 года назад

      found it myself here:
      www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjyi5_fzZTsAhVIm6QKHaInDMoQFjAAegQIBxAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fico.org.uk%2Fmedia%2Faction-weve-taken%2Fdecision-notices%2F2020%2F2618201%2Ffs50881691.pdf&usg=AOvVaw19Ptnx5QNVNnL1EmFpzZ9n

    • @tradwifeuk2117
      @tradwifeuk2117 4 года назад

      ysvry - that link is not to the actual 2006 redacted report - anyone found that please?

  • @pseudonamed
    @pseudonamed 3 года назад +7

    Seriously people we need to ACT against this madness. Write to your MP, don’t let this grow and get more and more protection under the law.

    • @leafleafleaf9272
      @leafleafleaf9272 3 года назад +1

      Speaking of this, anyone reading; consider pledging to Keira bell campaign for more gd research. More research can’t really do any harm

  • @miguimau
    @miguimau 2 года назад +2

    The BBC supported and supports all that cultist eugenics BS. What are you going to do?

  • @fwcolb
    @fwcolb 4 года назад +5

    There are cases of ambiguous gender. But my research on the subject indicates these cases are rare.

    • @fwcolb
      @fwcolb 4 года назад +5

      @@lco7080 Which is why I think that surgery for children that is not based on physical gender ambiguity is genital mutilation and ought to be both a criminal offence worldwide and the basis for civil actions against all participants.

    • @availanila
      @availanila 4 года назад +1

      @@lco7080 about 1% isn't as rare as you'd assume. A lot of them (about 2/3) tended to eventually identify as female but the problem was preemptively assuming they'd do that but then turn out they wouldn't, bring raised gender fluid and then letting them choose and mature into their chosen gendered is the way to go and not political or ideological at all.
      In my country they are now allowed to choose and change their gender at will but in government and official website listed as non-binary which is the best there is we can do for them after realising that our cultures that categorised all of them as female (cultural expectations of intersex people) gave rise to a lot of people that didn't quite fit in and it wasn't their fault but rather our fault.

    • @BahliPadma
      @BahliPadma 4 года назад

      @@availanila That's really interesting; do you mind sharing what country?

    • @-Shadesofmeaning
      @-Shadesofmeaning 4 года назад +1

      @@availanila While abnormalites might come to 1% that doesn't mean 1% are of ambiguous sex. That would be extremely rare.

    • @mht5875
      @mht5875 Год назад

      Being born intersex is very rare and is very different from gender which is a social construct - in other words, biological intersex and gender are mutually exclusive.

  • @charlotte8559
    @charlotte8559 3 года назад +6

    CHAMS is the most useless service I wouldn't recommend any child go there, especially not a child who needs to talk about their gender and how they feel about it.

  • @leafleafleaf9272
    @leafleafleaf9272 3 года назад +2

    Bbc, why don’t you leave the comments open on other videos about this topic

  • @Tina06019
    @Tina06019 Год назад +3

    Just about everyone experiences anxiety during puberty. I sure did.
    I think a lot of “gender questioning” kids are gay, or just not happy with rigid gender roles, or sometimes both. Drugs and surgery are a poor “treatment” for this.

    • @moma-b
      @moma-b Год назад

      Lots of de-transitioners backing your theory. They were gay but the SM and TG propaganda convinced them they are TG.

    • @moma-b
      @moma-b Год назад

      @Unholygrail Prove it. Nobody knows the real numbers.

    • @moma-b
      @moma-b Год назад

      @Unholygrail I did. There are studies reporting 1-2% and 55% and none of them were done with proper methodology. It can be literally anything in between any values.

    • @moma-b
      @moma-b Год назад

      @Unholygrail Just give me the title of the study, I can google it. The exact title, word by word and the authors. That won't get spammed.

    • @moma-b
      @moma-b Год назад

      @Unholygrail Yeah, you haven't checked the studies, right? Two are from 2015, another two are from 2019. The Swedish study is done in between 1960 and 2010, on a very little sample, only a few hundreds of people, and already coming up with _"There were 15 (5 MF and 10 MF) regret applications corresponding to a 2.2 % regret rate for both sexes."_
      And back then people were checked more thoroughly for mental illnesses and these were all adults, no minors.
      The American study found:
      _"The study also found that compared with the general population, transgender individuals with a gender incongruence were:_
      _-about six times as likely to have had a mood or anxiety disorder health care visit;_
      _-more than three times as likely to have received prescriptions for antidepressants and anti-anxiety medication;_
      and
      _-more than six times as likely to have been hospitalized after a suicide attempt._
      _Despite the reduced mental health treatment use after gender-affirming surgery, treatment use among transgender individuals _*_continued to exceed_*_ that of the general population."_
      So the benefit is questionable the least.
      Thanks for the source, it's interesting, I will read the available studies to their full lenght. I have already found several cases when even I can see they were incorrectly analyzed. E.g. when people say there was at least one person who told them to de-transition, they were counted as "de-transitioned because of external pressures". So easy to see the flaw. If you listen to people on youtube they always say there are many many factors together which make them de-transition. And of course there are people who admit they didn't talk about their regret or surgery complications because they fear the backlash of the community. This can go to such an extreme degree, that people who suffer from seriously butchered surgeries are still shouting into the camera that they did not regret anything, and would do it again and also recommend the doctor who butchered them for others. Ask that person whether they have regretted anything and try to take their answer seriously. 😐

  • @ms-fl7jj
    @ms-fl7jj 4 года назад +10

    Child gender clinic!! Wtf!!

  • @missmarple2007
    @missmarple2007 4 года назад +4

    Why is there a child stuck in Dr Taylor's fireplace? Quite the metaphor!

  • @akslopforever7709
    @akslopforever7709 Год назад +2

    Crimes against children won't go unpunished!!! Financial backers and ideology spin doctors should
    Get long term sentences, be financially stripped of assets and put on child abuse offender public list

  • @sambussey9995
    @sambussey9995 4 года назад +4

    Big pharma.

  • @keyboarddancers7751
    @keyboarddancers7751 Год назад +1

    There are no more trans gender related PBs in Britain and Ireland. It's gonna be really tough for those white middle class children who are said to suffer from gender dysphoria.

  • @Sahvi
    @Sahvi 4 года назад +17

    “Child Gender Clinic”
    What an age to live in. Pathetic

  • @IsabellsNannyRuby
    @IsabellsNannyRuby 2 года назад +1

    Start at the schools this brainwashing has to stop

  • @edwardmal1802
    @edwardmal1802 4 года назад +7

    google john money

  • @LateInAugust
    @LateInAugust 4 года назад +3

    I thought the point of puberty blockers was to hold off puberty and so give the teen time to decide. It is not a sex change.

    • @cordulam
      @cordulam 2 года назад

      The problem is, that the brain cannot develop without the rest of the body. So prolonging childhood gives them more time, but not more maturity to make a grown up decision

  • @18Bees
    @18Bees 4 года назад +13

    The State becoming the Parent.

  • @lindajohnson9282
    @lindajohnson9282 2 года назад +1

    I believe that the Tavistock Centre (The Tavistock Clinic, as it was originally known) came to note for it’s treatment of a condition then known as “shell shock”, after World War II. But things went downhill fast, apparently. The impact of the Tavistock’s “treatment for probably at least 50 years has loaned itself to unethical, immoral and criminal experimentation on people of all ages, suffering all manner of psychiatric ill-health. The Tavistock even had a hand in “treating” Martin Bryant, the man responsible for the changes to gun control here in Australia. Until two days ago, I was unaware of the connection but my first search after learning of this connection led me to this journal article, “Mass murder in Australia: Tavistock's Martin Bryant” by Allen Douglas and Michael J. Sharp (EIR Volume 24, Number 21, May 16, 1997). I will let you good folk search this link for yourself so you know I’m not sending you on a wild goose-chase or endangering your privacy/security. Happy hunting!

  • @melliecrann-gaoth4789
    @melliecrann-gaoth4789 2 года назад

    “Underfunding of other services to refer to, underfunding of child and adolescent mental health services made it impossible to make such referrals” Dr Taylor. The bigger picture needs to be critically examined

  • @elainestacey6591
    @elainestacey6591 3 месяца назад

    The trouble my sons having is they’ve overdosed him on testosterone gel for two and a half years. No blood tests, no check ups. His now in a mental hospital because they gave him way too much.

  • @user-ot8bv5pc4f
    @user-ot8bv5pc4f 3 года назад +2

    I just wanted to make another sarcastic comment about uk, but... I just can't... "children questionning their gender" - that is not just disgusting, it is really shocking...
    Thanks to mr Putin all bullshit like this has been prohibited by recent changes in construction.
    I believe Russia should issue humanitarian visas for all british parents who want to keep their children safe.

  • @MasonDixonAutistic
    @MasonDixonAutistic 4 года назад +11

    There's a lot of informed, critical discussion that could be had about the total abandonment of ethics in the treatment of gender dysphoria. And then there's these comments.

    • @tradwifeuk2117
      @tradwifeuk2117 4 года назад

      Common sense is easy but not common at the BBC. These comments are in the main simple and true. Propaganda is obvious and does not need discussion just acknowledgment as such.

    • @MasonDixonAutistic
      @MasonDixonAutistic 4 года назад

      @@tradwifeuk2117 Oh dude, it was a reasonable enough reply and you had it removed. Why would that be?

    • @tradwifeuk2117
      @tradwifeuk2117 3 года назад

      MasonDixonAutistic - can’t remember- probably just was barking?

  • @crazyhorse132
    @crazyhorse132 3 года назад +2

    The destruction of humanity

  • @karenpreston8663
    @karenpreston8663 2 года назад +1

    Not to worry, we can learn some lessons here, its all good

  • @Roxy62ct
    @Roxy62ct Год назад +1

    I h ope all these children sue for malpractice and failure to protect

  • @keyboarddancers7751
    @keyboarddancers7751 3 года назад +3

    Glad to see the BBC presenting such a challenging report in this context however it has also been complicit in actively promoting trans ideology to children and young people.
    This issue has raised concerns within quite possibly the wokest profession imaginable, that of social work and there is now an organisation titled the Evidence Based Social Work Alliance (acronym dot org). I think we might've crested this appaling wave for young people.

  • @Markk4785
    @Markk4785 Год назад

    I mean if supposed experts “disagreed about treatment” maybe there wasn’t anything diagnosed? If something was fundamentally wrong you would know the course of treatment right away!

  • @MissMentats
    @MissMentats Год назад

    I hate that building so much. Inspires dread in me. I hated going there

  • @booksvalue-motivation6337
    @booksvalue-motivation6337 4 года назад +1

    NHS?

  • @carlabroderick5508
    @carlabroderick5508 2 года назад +2

    The doctor is right. Transition may not increase happiness or well-being, according to statistics. Because one can’t change society’s attitude, changing one’s anatomy may not be the solution.

  • @TheErasec
    @TheErasec 2 года назад +1

    Wtf is this disgusting thing about children gender clinics?

  • @justjanice8373
    @justjanice8373 8 месяцев назад

    Treat the parents!! , not the children 😢

  • @lewis571
    @lewis571 4 года назад +11

    This is why you don't play god.

  • @m0x910
    @m0x910 3 года назад +2

    God dictates what deeds classify as sins for our own good because He alone can see the chain reaction of pain and the ultimate tragic consequences of every seemingly harmless action and uttered word. He has spoken; heaven and earth shall pass away but not even a dash or full-stop will fade fro His WORD. Amen!
    “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.”
    ‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:27‬ ‭ESV‬‬
    “Train up a child in the way he should go [teaching him to seek God’s wisdom and will for his abilities and talents], Even when he is old he will not depart from it.”
    ‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭22:6‬ ‭AMP‬‬
    ““A woman shall not wear a man’s clothing, nor shall a man put on a woman’s clothing; for whoever does these things is utterly repulsive to the LORD your God.”
    ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭22:5‬ ‭AMP‬‬

  • @Borntoberiled
    @Borntoberiled 4 года назад +2

    Holy shit.

  • @jeek7980
    @jeek7980 4 года назад +3

    Pure evil. I myself finding out i was born ambiguous at 45 by my grandmother. Traumatic, surrounded by Wyoming version of this, coal miners daughter style! Medical model based on secrecy? Does, can, how such evil persists?

  • @cuprashoe
    @cuprashoe 2 года назад

    Now this wicked place is set to close I hope the evil %£#@ who worked there and groomed little children into chemical castration are properly dealt with

  • @AmbroseAlexander-u6x
    @AmbroseAlexander-u6x Год назад

    This news clip was quite interesting, especially from an international perspective. They discuss in the documentary how many of the patients who do end up at the Tavistock Clinic are deeply troubled with complex needs. Furthermore, one of the clinicians that was anonymously cited said that they believe that there are numerous patients who have been and are currently being medically mismanaged. Other clinicians also cited concerns including weather clinicians are medicating kids who are homosexual, kids who are autistic, or kids who have trauma from various sources period. Ultimately, their concern regarding these questions is that the treatments that they are receiving are not germane to some of their other underlying psychological and medical conditions. From this standpoint I think this violates the ethical principle of beneficence and non-maleficence. I say this because in practice, the concerned clinicians in this documentary explained how their colleagues would refer their patients out to specialists who could provide hormone modification therapies that have the potential to cause irreversible biological damage, such as infertility, after just one session of meeting with the patient. All things considered, the current law in England stated that there needed to be a minimum of three sessions with the patient seeking this kind of care. Even with this three-session minimum, many of the clinicians in this documentary were still concerned about the nature of true consent attained by the patients regarding the full understanding and grasp of the gravity of the implications of hormone therapy treatment at a young age. Furthermore, the lack of understanding of the long-term side effects psychologically and in certain aspects physically that these patients would be exposed to exemplifies how such clinical care is not adhering to the ethical principles of beneficence and non-maleficence. In many cases many individuals may say that the patient’s autonomy was respected and that from an ethical perspective this should be praised. But based on the concerns that these clinicians also cited, it does seem that autonomy is also lacking in these scenarios. The idea of medical autonomy also implies a level of understanding that a patient must be able to have and demonstrate, as well as insight and reasoning towards the pros and cons of various treatment options given a foundational understanding of whatever condition it is they are hoping to get treated for. This is to say that it does not seem as though patients are given adequate time to truly gain this necessary insight and knowledge regarding what their treatments would entail but also the implications of permanent outcomes associated with the treatments they are seeking to receive. Moreover, assisting them to gain a fuller understanding of the lack of knowledge and understanding within the medical community of specific adverse reactions that are unknown at this time. I understand the urgency of protecting the mental health of our patients, but at what point is the passion for protection becoming detrimental to the realization of this goal, Especially in the face of the unknown.

    • @live_monkey2485
      @live_monkey2485 Год назад

      Dude... for simple-minded folk like me, please paragraph.

  • @theindubitable
    @theindubitable Год назад

    Truth is coming out, there is no going back for these evil people.

  • @Sophie20237
    @Sophie20237 6 месяцев назад

    Excellent woman Sue

  • @dcooke804
    @dcooke804 4 года назад +1

    But Truss just announced three more clinics will go ahead, and still no longitudinal data :(
    And at least two of those involved in the review are full on GI supporters long term. :( :(

    • @themikaylashow1987
      @themikaylashow1987 2 года назад

      They're only polit schemes. They were created for people who hasn't been seen for their first appointment. I've waited 40 months so for my first,yet trans plus,tge polit clinic in London won't accept. I'm 34,came our age 31

  • @HABHBX
    @HABHBX 4 года назад

    defund the BBC this is absolte bollocks

  • @chuckmaddison2924
    @chuckmaddison2924 4 года назад

    Is this a department of the Catholic Church.

  • @unbroken1010
    @unbroken1010 3 года назад +1

    The vast majority have been brought up on video games do I need to mention fortnite night that lets you switch "skins" what happened to good old rock and roll or punk rock or hardcore or even old school rap. Look carefully predictive programming is there. Do I need them mention smartphones artificial intelligence social media the most complex relationships are with in adamant objects genderless in adamant objects. Get your kids out socializing correctly and then whatever they become is whatever they become. I could care less what anybody is but there's way too much training and grooming going on yes Jeffree Starr looking at you

    • @unbroken1010
      @unbroken1010 3 года назад

      @patt l some sanity please. The dude literally lied about his Warehouse being robbed just so he could get some publicity. He is not a representation of any nonconformity he is a scam

  • @EmM-ko7mu
    @EmM-ko7mu 4 года назад +7

    So you want to make the process for them harder with more years of waiting?

    • @-Shadesofmeaning
      @-Shadesofmeaning 4 года назад +3

      Emik Zotic It's the adults that are eager for more recruits. The children will get the care they need and not be pushed into sterilisation and mutilation.

  • @dragonfox2.058
    @dragonfox2.058 Год назад +1

    Live human experiment

  • @jfpi8974
    @jfpi8974 4 года назад +2

    This is child abuse!!

  • @rosiekrupp
    @rosiekrupp 4 года назад +2

    TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

  • @auro1986
    @auro1986 4 года назад

    advanced technology, bbc?

  • @bazkiller
    @bazkiller 3 года назад

    We need to speak up and out about this while I support people's personal reasons to trans I don't agree it should be allowed on kids or teens. If you speak out your branded a transphobe which I'm not do what makes you happy but that has to be a mature choice. Forcing your kids to appease you own issues in wrong

  • @halfnelson6115
    @halfnelson6115 4 года назад +1

    "Freedom of information" 😆😅🤣😂🙂

  • @foxabilo
    @foxabilo 4 года назад +3

    I have to say BBC Newsnight I am impressed by the new less biased content.

  • @Toomanymemes697
    @Toomanymemes697 4 года назад

    Just ask Shaun Attwood

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  • @peterdickinson7842
    @peterdickinson7842 3 года назад +1

    Save these bairns Lord. From the nonsense, what happened to conscience? Ask Adam and Eve what did they believe? Then they took that fruit, and result, mankind has many brute!

  • @pakamonparimontonskul.kamp9278
    @pakamonparimontonskul.kamp9278 4 года назад

    Jean

  • @pakamonparimontonskul.kamp9278
    @pakamonparimontonskul.kamp9278 4 года назад

    London Walve