Why is it impossible to half-watch his videos? There must be secret ingredient to it!! A secret obvious to one third million subscribers of the channel :-)
@@TechIngredients Something that locks one's ears, eyes, and attention to the screen to the end preventing from skip-forwarding or X1.5 faster-play. You are not only a great researcher, designer, maker/builder but an excellent presenter as well! A small possibility is that you are faking it all being the front face of a genius, namely your son faking the camera-man :-)
The question for me was "Is exposure and access to this caliber of investigation, presentation, and explanation 'seasoning' the quality of my personhood with a value equivalent to $2 a month?"
@muinaiset Outstanding value analysis! Imagine the value if we can tell friends and family to do the same! Don't know what percentage patreon takes, but even at 10% if we could raise awareness enough to get their patreons to even 50k @$2/mo would yield $90k/month!!! Just imagine the amazing quality and QUANTITY videos they could share!! It'd be like getting an MIT level education for PENNIES A DAY! Think about that & tell friends! :-):-):-)
Yes. I made my best vibration speaker because of this guy and this channel. I would rank them to 1k€ category and it just costed me something like 300€ of two speakers and subwoofers.. I used different materials but got nice inspiration. There is many ways to complite the qualities :)
You’re into the most awesome things, sound systems, light epoxy reinforced balsa wood, magnetic fields, bullet proof armour... the list goes on. You’re a genius
Your ability to convey with clarity a multitude of subject matter paired with meticulous craftsmanship is remarkable. I am completely captivated with this channel. Thanks for sharing your gift.
I love how informative your videos are. This video alone touched on: surface quality, flatness, thermal transfer, the geometry of fine particles, techniques, vocabulary & units...and so on. You are a standard for practical scientific explanation. Thank You!
Agree. I rarely have questions after watching his videos. He covers everything so well and in depth, all my questions get answered. Doesn't bother me a bit the videos are over 20 mins like a lot of youtubers worry about. I'd still watch an hour long video. I enjoy old electronics also and Mr Carlsons Lab videos are quite often over an hour long. Love every minute of them also.
I made a knife in school and tried to give the edge a final go after hardening but it just skipped down the stone with hardly any resistance and there wasn't as much as a scratch on the edge. The teacher just laughed at my look of surprise and then taught me about tempering. It wasn't the most fantastic knife in the world, after all it was made from just some unspecified steel they had laying around and the hardening and tempering was hardly scientific, just the basic heat it till it's a deep cherry red and throw it in a water bath. Get rid of the surface oxide then heat it until it starts to look blueish (I think that was the color, it was more than 30 years ago, and my memory is not always the best anymore) and let it cool down slowly before giving it a final polish and sharpening. But hey, I was 14 or so, so to me it was fantastic, and I had a good time hammering that piece of steel into shape in the first place. There is something oddly satisfying in molding a piece of red hot steel into the desired shape with a hammer. This was the one and only time I made a knife or tried my hand at hardening a piece of steel. Now if this had been high quality tool steel then I guess I'd still be trying to polish that thing...
For those coming from Linus's video and wondering about the results, remember this is thermal EPOXY, not thermal PASTE. Paste works better thermally but is not adhesive. If you need an adhesive that's thermally conductive you get an epoxy. So of course if you pit it against any average paste it won't beat it. Linus even mentioned it in his video that he didn't compare this to other thermal apoxys. This stuff ISN'T meant for CPUs. Even if it did outperform paste, permanently affixing your cooler to your CPU isn't a good idea.
Yes, so? The way he used it is still counter to how the epoxy should be used and his measurements are very inaccurate by the nature of the components he used. (The resistors are anything but equal - the placement of the resistive wire inside the body can vary quite a bit and measuring surface-temperature on a component you do not know the physical makeup of....
@@ABaumstumpf Resistance is the defining factor of a resistor, the placement does not matter. Since resistors with the exact same resistance will produce the same heat under the same voltages. As long his way of measuring is consistent, which seems to be the case here, there's not that much of a problem
@@ABaumstumpf wire wrap resistors are pretty consistent in terms of surface temps. The entire point of having the large aluminum block is to all but eliminate possible hotspots. Given the nature of the test in question I think it's more than adequate. Any potential variations in surface temperature due to resistor construction would be no more than one or two tenths of a degree, and basically fall under margin-of-error for the kind of temperature differences displayed here.
@@wtechboy18 "wire wrap resistors are pretty consistent in terms of surface temps." ??? XD No really. They are consistent in their resistance, but their placement inside the casing can vary quite a bit and thus the temperature at each side. Having the center shifted just half a Millimeter can have rather large differences. Not margin of Error but rather 5°C easily.
And me! ...I already own one, but it has very disappointing performance. I also built my own very small one (in a tin can!) many years ago for cleaning old microphone capsules, which worked well, but only really for that one application.
I'm very interested, I worked with high frequency, high power ultrasound. 660khz and up to 1000 watts in a 2" piezo. We could melt plexiglass under water. Note: all work was done in a water bath. I left the company and didn't take a machine, I wish I had one. Also got to see sonoluminescence travel 18" reflect back to the other side and start back again, about a 2" tube of light. I miss those days!
Just got the package from Ti last week and today I used this epoxy in a preparation for initial testing for my application! It takes a while to arrive, but it's worth it. Plus, you're supporting this channel. Considering current shipping restrictions, it may be difficult for them to source all the necessary materials to keep up with demand. The price is very reasonable for what you get. This stuff is very thin viscosity and super opaque, thermally conductive, and yet electrically insulating. That's a holy grail of sorts, in the material design world. See what you can do with it. I'm preparing to file a patent thanks to this wonderful channel. : ) "There's so much room for activities!" -Step Brothers
Thanks for the comment and the review! And, you're right about the shipping. If we had known how high the demand would be and the rather inexplicable delays due to the politics of this human malware, we would have acted like the toilet paper horders with the diamond and graphene.😛
@@TechIngredients LOL - well put. Eagerly looking forward to content on how to build that ultrasonic emulsification device - no pressure though - only when you're ready. We love ANY content from this channel. In fact, as soon as I can rationalize it, I'm upgrading to top tier on Patreon. 💪🏾
You have a clear and engaging teaching style, and these are the most interesting videos on RUclips. It’s fantastic that you’re making your epoxy available online.
I have no idea what your background is, but you remind me of all of my favorite teachers and professors.. You make learning stuff SO interesting.. Thanks for making these!
I really like that this channel always focuses on doing these things affordably, and showing you how you can do them yourself even when they could just sell them instead.
Tech Ingredients: "...and you'll be able to do this at home." Me: Oh cool! Tech Ingredients: "One thing though, you will need access to either a cell disruptor or a powerful ultrasound...". Me: ...
You have to send this stuff to Linus! He's a sucker for this type of stuff and it would be great exposure for the channel if they try it out in a video
I'm an engineering student, and your videos help keep me excited about science and engineering. The stuff you do is fascinating, and I appreciate the way you explain things clearly and in detail.
This man's demeanor is so soothing and his knowledge so seemingly infinite, he's almost presenting all of this in real time, no cuts to go consult any sources or a script. I am twelve minutes in and haven't quite found the answer I'm looking for but by Jove I am watching till the end and I will enjoy it.
25:10 “I’m going to place this as accurately as I can right in the middle, again I don’t even know that it’s necessary to be accurate, but I’m trying to keep everything that I’m doing as consistent as possible in case there is any meaning to the accuracy.” This is a quote that stood out to me the second I heard it. The quote exemplifies that his work ethic has integrity. So much more to say, but I think I’ll let other commenters have that opportunity :)
Me too - the lengths they go to achieve the kind of consistency that's required to harvest decent data is what really caught my attention. When rough figures are calculated, he always averages away from the best case results by a very reasonable increment. This in a time where the average American mind struggles with distinguishing between objective and subjective - it's more significant than immediately apparent.
Why I'm kinda sad to see Linustechtips make a video on it prior to GamersNexus as GamersNexus tends to be a fair bit more accurate and technical. Linus is more just an influencer who likes to hype things.
@@Skylancer727 why would steve give a shit about something so impractical? this is perfect for linus because nobody should do it but it's cool to investigate anyway
Just like many others have said: This channel is underrated and the quality of the videos and information is so top notch, it really is a joy to watch :D
anyone notice the recording of his voice in the background. love this channel so much. i wont ever do half of the things he teaches or does, but the detail and knowledge is so refreshing. I love his stoic demeanor as well! keep up the great work!!!
My dad showed me how to linish a motorcycle cylinder head flat on a mirror when i was a little kid. Haven’t seen anyone do it again until now. So awesome
haha, way back when I was a lad, I started delving into overclocking and DIY watercooling. talking constantly to Dad about it, but mum was pretty wigged out when I took over the kitchen after dinner one night to polish my DIY waterblock. just wachin TV, grinding away. got a pretty good polish. this was for my athlon XP, so a 1cm/^2 die making 100w, you needed a very good interface. a good lapping knocked off about 5 degrees, which is really significant. worth it. with an evaporative cooler and some agressive ram tweaks, i could clock my $150 +2200 (1.8ghz) athlon XP to over 2.5ghz, giving me a CPU faster than anything else on the market at the time. was using arctic silver not exactly relevant, but lapping, absolutly worth your time, if your going for the bleeding edge. and its given me a lifelong appreciation of thermodynamics, managing heat. done some cool projects with theories ive learnt from that. TEC generators, distillation apparatus, refrigeration experiments. understanding heat flow is pretty handy to understand.
I work with ultrasound and said to the boss who had been in ultrasound most of his life, I think that drawer liner would make a good absorber. Reflections can be a problem and finding an absorbent material is difficult. I put it in the water, I had to squeeze all the air bubbles out, and we tries it, my boss was impressed, it was not what he expected. It's kind of a funny rubber with a cloth interior that works.
@@hobbified Without watch again, I think he mentioned Ultrasound to debubble the epoxy, and he is going to do some other ultrasound work, so I just added some info about absorbing reflections, if he ever needs it, ultrasound reflects all over.
I was thinking this as well. I would buy some to use on CPU heat sinks. Overkill but would support the channel! Actually, if you did that and did collab with Linus or something you guys would be able to afford even more projects!
Dunno why you say it's overkill, it seems perfectly reasonable. TBH i was expecting test results for exactly that to be shown in the video (as well as the Indium film), but i guess videos can only be so long.
@@roidroid I say that it is overkill because the testing shows that it is. What I mean is the thermal conductivity curve shoots up much sharper than the actual temperature drops on the CPU die. Diminishing returns.
Have ordered - another great ingredient for my tech toolkit. So much more useful and interesting than the usual merch. Thanks for the excellent videos.
I was thinking how great you would be as the professor on a Gilligan's island reboot, but I'm pretty sure you'd have them off the island before the first commercial break.
gamers nexus would be all about this... they'd test it and review it, and it would get used in extreme overclocking assuming he can make a compound that does well at below -100 without cracking.
I just can't get over how good and well done this channel is. The knowledge that is demonstrated (and generously so), the thoroughness of the experiments, the quality of the tools, fixtures, prototypes, etc. I'm absolutely riveted to the content. As an engineer I strive to this level of commitment and quality but life has gotten in the way for me in a few places. I hope to one day have a dedicated facility for things like this for nothing other than tinkering, experimenting, learning, and sharing. Thank you for setting such good examples. These days we need all we can get since some people in high places set the bad ones ;-)
I love how your videos have such a wide variety of useful info and yet many of your projects have common threads. I think someone should tell linus from LTT about this channel too.
@@jeffsadowski "I'm not gonna try this although Linus might." Hopefully on his lips.... I honestly cannot think of a worse collaboration between YT channels.
@@lancer2204 while linus himself isnt the best many of his staff would work quite well for a collaboration. I really dont see how such a collaboration would hurt anything and am honestly confused as to why you "cannot think of a worse collaboration" could you go into some more detail as to why that would be the case
I couldn't tell if he was saying it was better than traditional thermal pastes or not, any idea? I'd expect it's not, since even the best thermal pads have always been a few C worse than the best thermal pastes (and if Indium film was better they'd just be selling that instead). But hey we all come to this channel to be surprised by the unexpected, and i'd never heard of the Indium thing before now - so i'd believe anything.
@@roidroid As I understood it, the main limiting factor is the application process as it involves a lot of force as surface area increases. I would be uncomfortable applying the required forces on things like a cpu. That being said, I would also love to see how the indium fared with the same test setup.
Thank you for the excellent show on heat sink compounds. I've always been impressed at how good a thermal insulator they are and have stresses that the thinnest layer that provides contact is the best. I've worked with 2.5 by 5" modules that had extruded aluminium bases. We were unable to get good thermal contact with our package. Ultimately had to machine the module's base flat to 32 in and silk screened the hs compound in a pattern on the module to get thin/uniform coverage with no large voids.
@@TheBackyardChemist not even LN2. I lapped my CPU as well (and delidded it to replace the TIM under the IHS) and am actually just running on a relatively simple aircooler. Still, it did lower the temperature quite nicely (about 9 degrees delta)
Thanks for telling me about the algorithm. I love what you guys do and I want everyone to know about this channel! It's a fabulous service to the world!
When he said "Let's get cooking", it really reminds me of Walter White! Also hoping you get a hand-held gimbal soon, to improve the already excellent video quality
I think Gamersnexus should do it. They're more technical. LTT is more like entertainment focused with somewhat technical approach, so they make mistakes (a lot, some times). But when they do get it wrong, they make a follow up sooner or later. I wouldn't buy a thermal epoxi to add to a CPU anyway, but if it's wrong, it deserves a better test. The "do it like worst case scenario" won't do it.
@@gutsuthemasterchef Linus didn't do anything wrong and it performed quite well. As he sad (and I don't get wey no one listen to it) Thermal adhesive is not the same as thermal paste. It is made for something completely different. It is used for tens and not hundreds of watts and therefore this does not really make a difference. also and more importantly IT IS ADHESIVE. it is made to Put a heatsink on it without any holder. Thermal paste has better Performance, but for it to work well you need a perfectly stable and strong and constant mounting pressure, LIKE the ones on a PC Cooler. This is really complicated and not even close to space-efficient.also it is not really stable. Fine for a PC not for the applications you actually use this in.
I wouldn't advise using a thermal epoxy, including ours, for a CPU. This is a PERMANENT bond. I'm surprised that Linus was even able to remove it with an impact without cracking the CPU. Expensive devices that can't be heated to a couple of hundred degrees C should be mounted this way only if you never intend to remove them. Viscosity differences play an important role as well because this affects the layer thickness.
@@asdanjer I expected that. It's not really reasonable to glue a CPU anyway, but as you said, there's good applications for a efficient, permanent, thermal glue.
Would prefer that it didn't cement my heatsync/sink onto the processor lid when used, and yes this needs to be tested against Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut.
Maybe if I just do not mix the two parts of the epoxy, I wonder if he put equal percents of the copper diamond and graphine mix into both the big and the little syringe. If it stays liquid and squishes into a thinner layer probably it would work better as a thermal “grease”. He wasn’t trying to make better thermal grease, he was trying to make better thermal epoxy. BUT I agree, he should make a thermal grease.
Another great video! One question! why not figure eight movements? I've seen this done when lapping CPU's and CPU coolers for flatness and liquid metal cooling..
I'm just waiting for surround speakers, surround backs and Atmos speakers. I'm surprised I even understand what he's talking about but I get all of it, what a great teacher. The inspiration to make stuff is overwhelmingly welcome. If we had more real teachers like this we'd of been on Mars a long time ago. Very impressive work, thank you.
When you said Graphene i thought of Robert Murray Smith sounds like some of the stuff he does. He makes his own Graphene . Pretty neat project i will def. be making some
Has RMS tested his new batteries in his Twizzy yet? I remember the video of him taking the Twizzy apart to put his batteries in. That was *many* months ago.
Fascinating video. I would love to see you tackle conductive epoxy adhesive. Given the ingredients in this thermal epoxy, I wonder what the electrical conductivity of this particular recipe is.
@@attilafenyvesi5800 Honestly, how often have you changed your processor cooler once you've installed it? moreover it's true what others have said; you can embed the particles in a grease and call it done
I usually don't watch longer videos, but the videos from this channel is perhaps my sole and consistent exception! Always a great watch, and I appreciate the scientific process! Please keep making more great videos!!!
This is the third time I see this specific video in a whole. Congratulations and keep doing this amazing job os demonstrating science in an all business way of sharing, but also not being greedy. I’m very happy to have met your channel and in any chance you visit Rio de Janeiro (Brazil), I would be honored to shake your hands.
@@Bobbybobby1 most just leave the IHS on because it also helps protect the chips (they are very fragile). And if they're using a heavy LN2 pot, the weight can easily chip a dye. Many just sand the IHS and the heatsink level and run it like that. I know many de-lid intel CPUs because they use thermal paste in between the IHS and dye (which is a lot worse than soldering the IHS to the dye).
@@rabenklang7 are you talking about the nickel plating on the IHS ? It's really only there to protect the copper in the IHS from corrosion (i do believe that when you put TIM on the lapped CPU it keeps the corrosion from taking place because it effectively seals the exposed copper from the air), and it's there to protect the IHS if someone uses a aluminum heatsink that it won't allow for any galvanic action to take place (between the copper and aluminum), they just don't use an aluminum heatsink.
@@madmax2069 yes i meant that, thanks for the reply, well i used liquid metal, i thought the tin protects against it. But you are right, copper might also be fine, i think delidding might be more risky, because the silicon layer is pretty thin, and atoms might move through that layer in time. Hmm maybe i will lap my x3700, i am not so satisfied with my temperatures, and i read after i watched this video, that the cpu is often warped, in consequence of the soldering.
Another excellent video! Many thanks. Looking forward to the next as I was about to buy an ultrasonic cleaner but if I can make one myself then I'll do that. As you are talking about epoxy, will you ever cover how to make UV curing resin used with SLA 3D printers?
I will second what some others have already said - if you sort out a way to make a non-permanent thermal compound with similar thermal characteristics, I'm in! I don't think a permanent epoxy is a good idea for a PC CPU. Also, thank you for your wonderful videos. I appreciate what you and your son contribute to the world. Tech Ingredients is a gem, RUclips is a better place with your content.
Agreed. I'm looking forward to seeing a thermal paste variant in your shop. I bet a lot of tech youtubers would love to review a competitive product engineered by "some guy in his workshop."
Some WD40 and then add powder? Or something similar.. the carrying compound seems less important, especially if you dont need the epoxy! Would be interesting to see how this fares against regular thermal componds, i'm guessing that this was not regular arctic silver but their epoxy blend?
100%, scrolled to the comments to say pretty much this exact thing. I would absolutely buy this; it would just need to not glue my components together.
Permanent adhesion is really not that bad of an idea. I used to think like this, but have done it a few times now and it's been fine - except the quality of the adhesive material is not quite good enough for my taste. What I like about it is the fact that you essentially no longer have to worry about the interface "drying out" and so using THIS compound seems to provide both the superior material AND the benefit of "set it and forget it". This is also useful in very "dirty" environments... (I look forward to testing this out in a machine shop where I maintain the electronics!)
Why is it impossible to half-watch his videos? There must be secret ingredient to it!! A secret obvious to one third million subscribers of the channel :-)
You mean like half watch a Brad Pitt movie? I don't know...
There is a secret ingredient and it is called Common Knowledge or Science, lol .
@@TechIngredients lookin good!
@@TechIngredients Something that locks one's ears, eyes, and attention to the screen to the end preventing from skip-forwarding or X1.5 faster-play.
You are not only a great researcher, designer, maker/builder but an excellent presenter as well!
A small possibility is that you are faking it all being the front face of a genius, namely your son faking the camera-man :-)
Thank'$ for the great info!
If you were! In charge; some of us`could be watching your show from space* 100%+
The quality of this channel is so high, I'm starting to feel morally compelled to financially support it.
Yeah, I never Patreon things, but joined theirs the other week
The question for me was "Is exposure and access to this caliber of investigation, presentation, and explanation 'seasoning' the quality of my personhood with a value equivalent to $2 a month?"
@muinaiset Outstanding value analysis! Imagine the value if we can tell friends and family to do the same! Don't know what percentage patreon takes, but even at 10% if we could raise awareness enough to get their patreons to even 50k @$2/mo would yield $90k/month!!! Just imagine the amazing quality and QUANTITY videos they could share!! It'd be like getting an MIT level education for PENNIES A DAY! Think about that & tell friends! :-):-):-)
Yes. I made my best vibration speaker because of this guy and this channel. I would rank them to 1k€ category and it just costed me something like 300€ of two speakers and subwoofers.. I used different materials but got nice inspiration. There is many ways to complite the qualities :)
I know!! I get the same feeling when watching certain channels.
Yes!!
I have my buddies coming over and we are going to stream this to the tv to all watch together!
Best channel on RUclips hands down!
I'd say NERDS .... but then here I am
Thanks!
Lucky you! :D
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@@TonyRule dude. Exactly what i was thinking
You’re into the most awesome things, sound systems, light epoxy reinforced balsa wood, magnetic fields, bullet proof armour... the list goes on. You’re a genius
He could be a legit secret agent outfitter Q style from James Bond not only could he pull it of technically but camera wise too.
Your ability to convey with clarity a multitude of subject matter paired with meticulous craftsmanship is remarkable. I am completely captivated with this channel. Thanks for sharing your gift.
I love how informative your videos are.
This video alone touched on: surface quality, flatness, thermal transfer, the geometry of fine particles, techniques, vocabulary & units...and so on.
You are a standard for practical scientific explanation. Thank You!
Agree. I rarely have questions after watching his videos. He covers everything so well and in depth, all my questions get answered. Doesn't bother me a bit the videos are over 20 mins like a lot of youtubers worry about. I'd still watch an hour long video. I enjoy old electronics also and Mr Carlsons Lab videos are quite often over an hour long. Love every minute of them also.
Tip from a knifemaker: start by trying to finish sand a piece of hardened tool steel, after that any sanding operation will seem like a breeze.
I made a knife in school and tried to give the edge a final go after hardening but it just skipped down the stone with hardly any resistance and there wasn't as much as a scratch on the edge. The teacher just laughed at my look of surprise and then taught me about tempering. It wasn't the most fantastic knife in the world, after all it was made from just some unspecified steel they had laying around and the hardening and tempering was hardly scientific, just the basic heat it till it's a deep cherry red and throw it in a water bath. Get rid of the surface oxide then heat it until it starts to look blueish (I think that was the color, it was more than 30 years ago, and my memory is not always the best anymore) and let it cool down slowly before giving it a final polish and sharpening. But hey, I was 14 or so, so to me it was fantastic, and I had a good time hammering that piece of steel into shape in the first place. There is something oddly satisfying in molding a piece of red hot steel into the desired shape with a hammer.
This was the one and only time I made a knife or tried my hand at hardening a piece of steel.
Now if this had been high quality tool steel then I guess I'd still be trying to polish that thing...
In my (very much layman's) experience, something being tedious equals not enough power tools...
I love that this is open source thermal epoxy. Thanks for sharing the knowledge, research and testing as well as the recipe.
Sure! Go Linux...
@@TechIngredients Wish you were my pops ⚡❤️
For those coming from Linus's video and wondering about the results, remember this is thermal EPOXY, not thermal PASTE. Paste works better thermally but is not adhesive. If you need an adhesive that's thermally conductive you get an epoxy. So of course if you pit it against any average paste it won't beat it. Linus even mentioned it in his video that he didn't compare this to other thermal apoxys. This stuff ISN'T meant for CPUs. Even if it did outperform paste, permanently affixing your cooler to your CPU isn't a good idea.
Yes, so? The way he used it is still counter to how the epoxy should be used and his measurements are very inaccurate by the nature of the components he used. (The resistors are anything but equal - the placement of the resistive wire inside the body can vary quite a bit and measuring surface-temperature on a component you do not know the physical makeup of....
@@ABaumstumpf Resistance is the defining factor of a resistor, the placement does not matter. Since resistors with the exact same resistance will produce the same heat under the same voltages. As long his way of measuring is consistent, which seems to be the case here, there's not that much of a problem
@@ABaumstumpf wire wrap resistors are pretty consistent in terms of surface temps. The entire point of having the large aluminum block is to all but eliminate possible hotspots. Given the nature of the test in question I think it's more than adequate. Any potential variations in surface temperature due to resistor construction would be no more than one or two tenths of a degree, and basically fall under margin-of-error for the kind of temperature differences displayed here.
@@wtechboy18 "wire wrap resistors are pretty consistent in terms of surface temps."
??? XD
No really. They are consistent in their resistance, but their placement inside the casing can vary quite a bit and thus the temperature at each side.
Having the center shifted just half a Millimeter can have rather large differences. Not margin of Error but rather 5°C easily.
@@ABaumstumpf As a layman I am sure that this will go above and beyond my requirements.
You guys are taking DIY to an entirely new level, and I'm here for it.
I'm looking forward to the ultrasonic cleaner video!
I am also!
And me! ...I already own one, but it has very disappointing performance. I also built my own very small one (in a tin can!) many years ago for cleaning old microphone capsules, which worked well, but only really for that one application.
Count me in on the ultrasonic cleaner!
I'm very interested, I worked with high frequency, high power ultrasound. 660khz and up to 1000 watts in a 2" piezo. We could melt plexiglass under water. Note: all work was done in a water bath. I left the company and didn't take a machine, I wish I had one. Also got to see sonoluminescence travel 18" reflect back to the other side and start back again, about a 2" tube of light.
I miss those days!
Father of the son of the main presenter:
>Made a formula that beats multi million dollars company product
>Share it in the video description
Mohamed Samir these materials are dead easy to formulate. I few days of lab time is all it would take.
@Khaffit So what? This formula is available and better. Arctic now has to do better.
Just got the package from Ti last week and today I used this epoxy in a preparation for initial testing for my application! It takes a while to arrive, but it's worth it. Plus, you're supporting this channel. Considering current shipping restrictions, it may be difficult for them to source all the necessary materials to keep up with demand. The price is very reasonable for what you get. This stuff is very thin viscosity and super opaque, thermally conductive, and yet electrically insulating. That's a holy grail of sorts, in the material design world. See what you can do with it. I'm preparing to file a patent thanks to this wonderful channel. : ) "There's so much room for activities!" -Step Brothers
Thanks for the comment and the review!
And, you're right about the shipping. If we had known how high the demand would be and the rather inexplicable delays due to the politics of this human malware, we would have acted like the toilet paper horders with the diamond and graphene.😛
@@TechIngredients LOL - well put. Eagerly looking forward to content on how to build that ultrasonic emulsification device - no pressure though - only when you're ready. We love ANY content from this channel. In fact, as soon as I can rationalize it, I'm upgrading to top tier on Patreon. 💪🏾
I'm here just to improve the algorithm, you absolutely deserve it :D
Ditto
Love this channel. Between you, Applied Science, and my Make magazine I'm never at a loss for project ideas.
This is absolutly my favorite channel on youtube
You have a clear and engaging teaching style, and these are the most interesting videos on RUclips. It’s fantastic that you’re making your epoxy available online.
I have no idea what your background is, but you remind me of all of my favorite teachers and professors.. You make learning stuff SO interesting.. Thanks for making these!
It's a good example of the Feynman method, if you can teach a subject you can thoroughly understand it.
Zack G Exactly the man I was going to mention!
I love watching this channel. It's like taking a guided tour through a R & D department.
I can't imagine the number of hours you have devoted to this project. I am impressed. This is a wonderful video report. Thank you!
I really like that this channel always focuses on doing these things affordably, and showing you how you can do them yourself even when they could just sell them instead.
This just became my favorite cooking channel.
JNBpisces and just like any good cook, “eh, that’s close enough” for measuring
Bump
"With that in mind let's get cooking. "
Me: "I knew it!"
Walter White moment lol
@@maxlee6676 My wife said the same thing! hahahahaa
When you home lab crushes the performances of commercial products you are doing something right!
Quickly becoming my favorite tech videos! Don't stop making them EVER!
As a mechanical engineer who dabbles in thermal analysis, this was super interesting and informative. Thanks for the great video!
Tech Ingredients: "...and you'll be able to do this at home."
Me: Oh cool!
Tech Ingredients: "One thing though, you will need access to either a cell disruptor or a powerful ultrasound...".
Me: ...
Some of us have cell disruptors!
starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Disruptor/Legends
i did it at home with paypal and internet and blackjack! aaahh just forget the whole thing.
Cell Disrupter.
No problem.
I got mine from Worf.
Don't worry next video should be how to make one ;)
You have to send this stuff to Linus! He's a sucker for this type of stuff and it would be great exposure for the channel if they try it out in a video
The level of detail and applied science in these projects is why we are all here. Love it.
This channel improves with every new release. One of the best.
This has to be the absolute best channel on RUclips!
It is truly a treasure among those invested in the scientific community.
@mito You should also check out applied science. He has a great channel as well
I'm an engineering student, and your videos help keep me excited about science and engineering. The stuff you do is fascinating, and I appreciate the way you explain things clearly and in detail.
I just love this Chanel. The diversity of the subjects makes impossible for me not to watch. There's always something to learn!
The award for most casual use of the term "cell disruptor" goes to...
*pulls out shotgun* this is my trusty "cell disruptor"
He could be a Romulan, which could explain superior technological prowess
When I was young, I was amazed by Beakman's World. After an engineering degree, Tech Ingredients amazes me. Entertaining and informative AF.
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I can't wait for the "High efficiency fusion reactor for cheap" video.
Look up Fusors. Inertial electrostatic confinement fusion. I built one in high school.
@@theekdunn it's not able to generate power
This man's demeanor is so soothing and his knowledge so seemingly infinite, he's almost presenting all of this in real time, no cuts to go consult any sources or a script. I am twelve minutes in and haven't quite found the answer I'm looking for but by Jove I am watching till the end and I will enjoy it.
Great!
Hope you find something useful.
25:10
“I’m going to place this as accurately as I can right in the middle, again I don’t even know that it’s necessary to be accurate, but I’m trying to keep everything that I’m doing as consistent as possible in case there is any meaning to the accuracy.”
This is a quote that stood out to me the second I heard it. The quote exemplifies that his work ethic has integrity.
So much more to say, but I think I’ll let other commenters have that opportunity :)
yah that's great 👏👏❤️
Alex Wijkowski , thats how a scientist should work. Great by example.
Me too - the lengths they go to achieve the kind of consistency that's required to harvest decent data is what really caught my attention. When rough figures are calculated, he always averages away from the best case results by a very reasonable increment. This in a time where the average American mind struggles with distinguishing between objective and subjective - it's more significant than immediately apparent.
Why I'm kinda sad to see Linustechtips make a video on it prior to GamersNexus as GamersNexus tends to be a fair bit more accurate and technical. Linus is more just an influencer who likes to hype things.
@@Skylancer727 why would steve give a shit about something so impractical? this is perfect for linus because nobody should do it but it's cool to investigate anyway
Just like many others have said: This channel is underrated and the quality of the videos and information is so top notch, it really is a joy to watch :D
One of my favorite channels in youtube, really love the experiences, the content and the way you present it!
anyone notice the recording of his voice in the background.
love this channel so much. i wont ever do half of the things he teaches or does, but the detail and knowledge is so refreshing. I love his stoic demeanor as well! keep up the great work!!!
My dad showed me how to linish a motorcycle cylinder head flat on a mirror when i was a little kid. Haven’t seen anyone do it again until now. So awesome
I hope RealEngineering, This Old Tony, and AvE don’t see this - but you’re quickly becoming my favorite channel on youtube!
AvE gave a shout out to this channel 2 years back.
"Do you want to experience *true* flatness Morty?"
lul
Here for the R&M refrences
I thought of that halfway through the video haha.
lambs to the cosmic slaughter
True level
haha, way back when I was a lad, I started delving into overclocking and DIY watercooling. talking constantly to Dad about it, but mum was pretty wigged out when I took over the kitchen after dinner one night to polish my DIY waterblock. just wachin TV, grinding away. got a pretty good polish. this was for my athlon XP, so a 1cm/^2 die making 100w, you needed a very good interface. a good lapping knocked off about 5 degrees, which is really significant.
worth it. with an evaporative cooler and some agressive ram tweaks, i could clock my $150 +2200 (1.8ghz) athlon XP to over 2.5ghz, giving me a CPU faster than anything else on the market at the time. was using arctic silver
not exactly relevant, but lapping, absolutly worth your time, if your going for the bleeding edge. and its given me a lifelong appreciation of thermodynamics, managing heat. done some cool projects with theories ive learnt from that. TEC generators, distillation apparatus, refrigeration experiments. understanding heat flow is pretty handy to understand.
Me: Good morning, I was looking for a drawer liner with the highest frictional coefficient
Ikea employee: calls security
I work with ultrasound and said to the boss who had been in ultrasound most of his life, I think that drawer liner would make a good absorber. Reflections can be a problem and finding an absorbent material is difficult. I put it in the water, I had to squeeze all the air bubbles out, and we tries it, my boss was impressed, it was not what he expected. It's kind of a funny rubber with a cloth interior that works.
I mean't worked with, that was 15 years ago.
Um, what?
@@hobbified Without watch again, I think he mentioned Ultrasound to debubble the epoxy, and he is going to do some other ultrasound work, so I just added some info about absorbing reflections, if he ever needs it, ultrasound reflects all over.
This channel just keeps getting more and more interesting!! Keep it up y’all!
Another great video, I love the depth you go into the subjects you cover.
I’ve been watching his videos for a while and he’s very thorough. I especially like his videos about speakers.
same, thats how i found the channel!
Tech ingredients never ceases to amaze, truly inspirational.
I love how the example CPU is an AMD 3DNow! processor.
That's the everyman's example prop for sure.
Cheap and semi reliable... Semi.
I think it's a K6... Not sure... Certainly looked familiar!
@@juststeve5542 yeah I seen it and immediately thought of the K6
@@Robert_McGarry_Poems there's probably a reason why it's a prop now. 🤣
"Sorry, Our product is currently not available in your region"
Cheers from New Zealand
You beat me to it haha
Im in NZ too so will be keen on some of this for my large LED array i am assembling
@@LazloNQ A bit off topic, but didnt YT can the message service a year ago? I cant find that option anywhere.
Just use youshop.co.nz
What about Aramex Global Shopper?
Your grammar, articulation and knowledge is refreshing. Thank you for what you do.
Would love to see this as a paste also, somethings you have to take apart a few times
I was thinking this as well. I would buy some to use on CPU heat sinks. Overkill but would support the channel! Actually, if you did that and did collab with Linus or something you guys would be able to afford even more projects!
This stuff in a paste would be great for overclockers. Or anyone just wanting efficient CPU/GPU cooling.
Dunno why you say it's overkill, it seems perfectly reasonable. TBH i was expecting test results for exactly that to be shown in the video (as well as the Indium film), but i guess videos can only be so long.
@@roidroid I say that it is overkill because the testing shows that it is. What I mean is the thermal conductivity curve shoots up much sharper than the actual temperature drops on the CPU die. Diminishing returns.
Everytime one of your videos comes up in my recommendations, its about an unexpected but really interesting topic. Thanks for that!
Have ordered - another great ingredient for my tech toolkit. So much more useful and interesting than the usual merch. Thanks for the excellent videos.
Oh god
"Cool, I'll just have this running in the background while I finish my... uh... finish my...
... what was I doing?"
I'm really looking forward to a video about the ultrasound tank.
cant wait for the ultrasound video!
...or the concrete speakers video
...or really any other video from you
this channel is amazing
I was thinking how great you would be as the professor on a Gilligan's island reboot, but I'm pretty sure you'd have them off the island before the first commercial break.
LMAO!
How can you build several buildings, and a water supply system for indoor running water, but can't patch a hole in a boat?
With his superior construction and navigation techniques, the Minnow would have been back at port after the three hour tour.
Either that or you'd start to have people showing up to visit wonderland.
This really would work, on many levels. Maybe the rest of the cast is multi-cultural? Ginger should be Tiffany Haddish.
there is always another perspective on matters. thank you
Always.
Also, Linus Tech Tips might want to purchase this product from you, to cool all the Intel Fan Club...
I was thinking exactly this.
Exactly what I had thought!!!
Gamer's Nexus?
gamers nexus would be all about this... they'd test it and review it, and it would get used in extreme overclocking assuming he can make a compound that does well at below -100 without cracking.
Yes to this! it would be great exposure to this excellent channel
That's very cool, waiting on the ultrasonic "cleaner".
Great video, very interesting
Commenting for statistics of the channel!
A great watch. Somebody who is extremely intelligent that can explain science in a way that even I can understand. Thanks for a great show.
I just can't get over how good and well done this channel is. The knowledge that is demonstrated (and generously so), the thoroughness of the experiments, the quality of the tools, fixtures, prototypes, etc. I'm absolutely riveted to the content. As an engineer I strive to this level of commitment and quality but life has gotten in the way for me in a few places. I hope to one day have a dedicated facility for things like this for nothing other than tinkering, experimenting, learning, and sharing. Thank you for setting such good examples. These days we need all we can get since some people in high places set the bad ones ;-)
I love how your videos have such a wide variety of useful info and yet many of your projects have common threads. I think someone should tell linus from LTT about this channel too.
I can imagine the clickbait title. Cooling a PC with NO thermal compound!!!
But Linus is annoying.
@@jeffsadowski "I'm not gonna try this although Linus might."
Hopefully on his lips....
I honestly cannot think of a worse collaboration between YT channels.
@@jeffsadowski linus has done alot of unreasonable and weird builds, epoxying a CPU to a heatsink is well within the scope of stupid
@@lancer2204 while linus himself isnt the best many of his staff would work quite well for a collaboration. I really dont see how such a collaboration would hurt anything and am honestly confused as to why you "cannot think of a worse collaboration" could you go into some more detail as to why that would be the case
I want to see Linus glue one of his processors with this stuff
It may take many months if not years for this crossover, im just gonna slap some on my CPU
@@GodKing804 be sure to video it. 😁
He will probably drop it.
I want to see Linus use Indium on a Cpu.
@@qayqay2754 One of their sponsors literally sells that...
By far one my favorite scientist on RUclips. Keep them coming!!!
Love the content. I had no idea about the indium film, I'm going to try some out.
I couldn't tell if he was saying it was better than traditional thermal pastes or not, any idea?
I'd expect it's not, since even the best thermal pads have always been a few C worse than the best thermal pastes (and if Indium film was better they'd just be selling that instead). But hey we all come to this channel to be surprised by the unexpected, and i'd never heard of the Indium thing before now - so i'd believe anything.
@@roidroid As I understood it, the main limiting factor is the application process as it involves a lot of force as surface area increases. I would be uncomfortable applying the required forces on things like a cpu.
That being said, I would also love to see how the indium fared with the same test setup.
Thank you for the excellent show on heat sink compounds. I've always been impressed at how good a thermal insulator they are and have stresses that the thinnest layer that provides contact is the best.
I've worked with 2.5 by 5" modules that had extruded aluminium bases. We were unable to get good thermal contact with our package. Ultimately had to machine the module's base flat to 32 in and silk screened the hs compound in a pattern on the module to get thin/uniform coverage with no large voids.
"if you have an expensive CPU, you might not want to take it over to the sandpaper"
*laughs*
"u sure mate?"
LN2 gang
@@TheBackyardChemist lapping makes such a huge difference im surprised it isn't part of the manufacturing processes for the heat spreaders!
@@TheBackyardChemist not even LN2.
I lapped my CPU as well (and delidded it to replace the TIM under the IHS) and am actually just running on a relatively simple aircooler.
Still, it did lower the temperature quite nicely (about 9 degrees delta)
Aroop Roelofs **debauer has left the chat**
I'm an expert at voiding warranties!
Thanks for telling me about the algorithm. I love what you guys do and I want everyone to know about this channel! It's a fabulous service to the world!
This would be perfect for mounting high power COB LEDs to heatsinks. I think i'm going to order some for a project
If civilization collapses tomorrow, I hope to find this dude and keep him safe.
When he said "Let's get cooking", it really reminds me of Walter White!
Also hoping you get a hand-held gimbal soon, to improve the already excellent video quality
Great content!... Guessing he is a Chem Professor? No cuts, no "uhms," intelligent content - really refreshing! Thanks!
LTT needs a follow up let's get it
I have a feeling that linus didn't mix it properly, but we'll see. (He guessed the ratio instead of using the measurements on the syringe)
I think Gamersnexus should do it. They're more technical. LTT is more like entertainment focused with somewhat technical approach, so they make mistakes (a lot, some times). But when they do get it wrong, they make a follow up sooner or later. I wouldn't buy a thermal epoxi to add to a CPU anyway, but if it's wrong, it deserves a better test. The "do it like worst case scenario" won't do it.
@@gutsuthemasterchef Linus didn't do anything wrong and it performed quite well. As he sad (and I don't get wey no one listen to it) Thermal adhesive is not the same as thermal paste. It is made for something completely different. It is used for tens and not hundreds of watts and therefore this does not really make a difference. also and more importantly IT IS ADHESIVE. it is made to Put a heatsink on it without any holder. Thermal paste has better Performance, but for it to work well you need a perfectly stable and strong and constant mounting pressure, LIKE the ones on a PC Cooler. This is really complicated and not even close to space-efficient.also it is not really stable. Fine for a PC not for the applications you actually use this in.
I wouldn't advise using a thermal epoxy, including ours, for a CPU. This is a PERMANENT bond. I'm surprised that Linus was even able to remove it with an impact without cracking the CPU. Expensive devices that can't be heated to a couple of hundred degrees C should be mounted this way only if you never intend to remove them. Viscosity differences play an important role as well because this affects the layer thickness.
@@asdanjer I expected that. It's not really reasonable to glue a CPU anyway, but as you said, there's good applications for a efficient, permanent, thermal glue.
Loving the content, keep up the good work!
Happy to be a part of this classroom. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Sure!
Thanks for watching.
Can you beat the best high performance thermal grease, with the same dendritic copper/graphene mixed into some oil matrix?
I'm was hoping there would be a bulk option of the grease as an option other than the epoxy.
Would prefer that it didn't cement my heatsync/sink onto the processor lid when used, and yes this needs to be tested against Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut.
Please make a thermal grease! I would buy in a heartbeat. Just don't need the bonding portion.
Maybe if I just do not mix the two parts of the epoxy, I wonder if he put equal percents of the copper diamond and graphine mix into both the big and the little syringe. If it stays liquid and squishes into a thinner layer probably it would work better as a thermal “grease”. He wasn’t trying to make better thermal grease, he was trying to make better thermal epoxy. BUT I agree, he should make a thermal grease.
Did you ever catch Brando's experiments with butter in Last Tango in Paris?
the magic phrase here is: "we're going to cook up a batch", finally Heisenberg is starting to really show himself
half of the video i thought "how convenient it would be to just buy it from you" and at the end ... boom .. there you go. love you guys
Hey, that was kind of interesting. Thanks for the information.
Hey, this was kind of interesting, and... y'know, thanks for the information.
Another great video! One question! why not figure eight movements? I've seen this done when lapping CPU's and CPU coolers for flatness and liquid metal cooling..
I'm just waiting for surround speakers, surround backs and Atmos speakers. I'm surprised I even understand what he's talking about but I get all of it, what a great teacher. The inspiration to make stuff is overwhelmingly welcome. If we had more real teachers like this we'd of been on Mars a long time ago. Very impressive work, thank you.
When you said Graphene i thought of Robert Murray Smith sounds like some of the stuff he does. He makes his own Graphene . Pretty neat project i will def. be making some
The lead singer of The Cure? Such a polymath. He can defeat MecaStriesand too
Has RMS tested his new batteries in his Twizzy yet? I remember the video of him taking the Twizzy apart to put his batteries in. That was *many* months ago.
Fascinating video. I would love to see you tackle conductive epoxy adhesive. Given the ingredients in this thermal epoxy, I wonder what the electrical conductivity of this particular recipe is.
And now we just wait until LinusTechTips gets a hold of this and goes crazy with it.
It would be cool to see this tested in a computer application vs the Arctic Silver.
@@attilafenyvesi5800 You could put it in some grease aka 'compound'
@@attilafenyvesi5800 Honestly, how often have you changed your processor cooler once you've installed it? moreover it's true what others have said; you can embed the particles in a grease and call it done
@@Khellendros_ I hope they sell a grease version as well as the epoxy, they'd make bank.
Exactly my thought!
I usually don't watch longer videos, but the videos from this channel is perhaps my sole and consistent exception! Always a great watch, and I appreciate the scientific process! Please keep making more great videos!!!
That's good.
I believe they are as short as we can make them...but no shorter.
When can we get the ultrasound video?
This is the best funding strategy i've heard of.
I was expecting to come here for just a quick little skim through of the video, but it's really good stuff.
Thanks!
This is the third time I see this specific video in a whole. Congratulations and keep doing this amazing job os demonstrating science in an all business way of sharing, but also not being greedy.
I’m very happy to have met your channel and in any chance you visit Rio de Janeiro (Brazil), I would be honored to shake your hands.
9:48 Some overclockers do lap their CPUs, some are so out of whack that you can easily spin them on a table
Yup, I just posted pretty much the same comment and provided a video (when gamers Nexus lapped the 3970x)
@@madmax2069 don't the cpus have a protective coating which will then be removed?
@@Bobbybobby1 most just leave the IHS on because it also helps protect the chips (they are very fragile). And if they're using a heavy LN2 pot, the weight can easily chip a dye. Many just sand the IHS and the heatsink level and run it like that. I know many de-lid intel CPUs because they use thermal paste in between the IHS and dye (which is a lot worse than soldering the IHS to the dye).
@@rabenklang7 are you talking about the nickel plating on the IHS ?
It's really only there to protect the copper in the IHS from corrosion (i do believe that when you put TIM on the lapped CPU it keeps the corrosion from taking place because it effectively seals the exposed copper from the air), and it's there to protect the IHS if someone uses a aluminum heatsink that it won't allow for any galvanic action to take place (between the copper and aluminum), they just don't use an aluminum heatsink.
@@madmax2069 yes i meant that, thanks for the reply, well i used liquid metal, i thought the tin protects against it. But you are right, copper might also be fine, i think delidding might be more risky, because the silicon layer is pretty thin, and atoms might move through that layer in time. Hmm maybe i will lap my x3700, i am not so satisfied with my temperatures, and i read after i watched this video, that the cpu is often warped, in consequence of the soldering.
Another excellent video! Many thanks. Looking forward to the next as I was about to buy an ultrasonic cleaner but if I can make one myself then I'll do that. As you are talking about epoxy, will you ever cover how to make UV curing resin used with SLA 3D printers?
Oh yeah that'd be awesome!
I will second what some others have already said - if you sort out a way to make a non-permanent thermal compound with similar thermal characteristics, I'm in! I don't think a permanent epoxy is a good idea for a PC CPU.
Also, thank you for your wonderful videos. I appreciate what you and your son contribute to the world. Tech Ingredients is a gem, RUclips is a better place with your content.
Please, this!
Agreed. I'm looking forward to seeing a thermal paste variant in your shop. I bet a lot of tech youtubers would love to review a competitive product engineered by "some guy in his workshop."
Some WD40 and then add powder? Or something similar.. the carrying compound seems less important, especially if you dont need the epoxy!
Would be interesting to see how this fares against regular thermal componds, i'm guessing that this was not regular arctic silver but their epoxy blend?
100%, scrolled to the comments to say pretty much this exact thing. I would absolutely buy this; it would just need to not glue my components together.
Permanent adhesion is really not that bad of an idea. I used to think like this, but have done it a few times now and it's been fine - except the quality of the adhesive material is not quite good enough for my taste. What I like about it is the fact that you essentially no longer have to worry about the interface "drying out" and so using THIS compound seems to provide both the superior material AND the benefit of "set it and forget it". This is also useful in very "dirty" environments... (I look forward to testing this out in a machine shop where I maintain the electronics!)
This is one of the best 'grown up' interesting engineering channels on youtube. thank you for your efforts !