Thanks for taking the time to correspond, Thomas. You do such an outstanding job with your videos, and your style of succinct information and understatement, is truly unique. And very refreshing. So many of the "instructional" videos are loooong and disorganized. And I see some others are now trying to emulate you. I guess it's their way of complimenting you! Keep up your work!
Hi THLR ! Congretulation for your very nice shoot at longrange ... from a PGM Ultima Ratio 708 long distance 's shooter , few borders West ;-) I'm waiting for my future Steyr SSG 7-08 ...2 weeks ;-) Best Regards from France
Cool! I am anxious to see how well it works. Still no cerakote here. Been on work travel for the last couple of months. Now that I am home, I would love to shoot every weekend, but I need to spend time with the family.
First of all: Happy New Year! One thing to make us surely happy is what I just got from Blaser some minutes ago: I had requested a clear statement about availability of 6,5-284 barrels for R93 or R8 several days ago. Today they told me that they checked and that it will be possible again to get those for the "normal" cost of a standard barrel plus the common additional cost for special order. Delivery time should be 3-4 month. So on your marks... :)
This:low recoil, one pass in-the-sizer-die brass wildcat is the reason I am so anxious to find an alternative barrel source for our R93s. It shoots inside a long barrel full house 6.5x284 withOUT MAX loading pressures. Berger makes wonderful hunting VLDs for us in the US and your Amax sourcing will still be cheap in EU. Having a barrel like this that duplicates the 6.5x284 would allow a shooter to alternate between the two and avoid overheating the throats of either with long practice sessions.
Completely agree with @terjeness... I wish I had the time, terrain and resources to emulate.....If I did, I would !!!! Great job again Thomas! I can only dream!
Oh, I wanted to say - when you mentioned that the bullet might have gone subsonic - that I opted to get the .338AX, with 100-150 fsec faster, to be able to reach out as far as possible......
Thanks for the info! Just got bad news from Blaser, they won`t accept any more 6,5-284 barrel orders, even not as special order... :( Did you get your barrels yet or do you know if there are any other possibilities to get barrels build for R93 in your 6,5-284 version?
Really enjoy watching your videos. The scenery is breath taking as always. Just wondering what your take is on scope levels? Is it a good piece of kit or something one should just learn to get a feel for when their gun is canted?
Thanks for this hint! At least the brass should (hopefully) be no factor for me since my father hunts with 7x64 and uses only factory ammunition. I have to check if he gave away the brass or hopefully still has it (we are hunters AND collectors... ;).
I used to have an SSG69 too, one of my first rifles. Extremely well made rifle, especially considering that is was introduced in 1969. But it was really to heavy for hunting, so sold it to a friend.
I wonder, Thomas, if it is rather the wind that made it difficult to repeat the hit at 1670 meters. It's a long way off, with much and varied wind interference possible between you and the target - in wide open terrain. It seems that if it hit the first time, and all things were equal, it should have hit the second or third time. I thought it was remarkable that you calculated all variables just right to have a first hit! Good doping.
They claimed that demand was not existing anymore and people would go for 6,5x68 or .270 instead. I asked them already if they could ream a 6,5x55 to 6,5-284. It`s technically possible but twist/rifling would not match... :(
But I hope you will get your barrels anyway, a Blaser technician told me they normaly would still have pre-manufactured ("weißfertig") barrels but when I wanted to order and was connected to the sales department they said no and that it was no longer possible to order. If your order was placed earlier you should also get it, otherwise you should have been informed. So maybe I should call and tell them you want only 4... :)
I have only read about the 8,5x63. They tell that it`s nearly as potential as a .338 WM but with less gas pressure and less recoil and that it`s even more accurate. 6,5-284 barrels for R93 are hardly to get and I just had an offer for a 8,5x63 barrel so I was just thinking about if that caliber would be also good for Longrange. But brass and bullets have also to be calculated so finally I will emulate your setup even more... ;) Do you have a tip for powder (6,5x55 and 6,5-284) for me? Thanks!
Thomas, It sounds and looks very windy. I notice you don't dial much for windage - do you hold over? Would love too see view through the scope while you shoot!
Hi Thomas, would 7RM be your favorite if cost was same as 6,5? Do you know the 8,5x63? And regarding 6,5x55 and 6,5-284: what powders do you use for reloading? Thanks for your great video-advices, keep them coming! :)
Oh, I forgot, could it be the ammo that varied, thus making consequtive hits at that far a range not consistant? Don't know what ammo you shoot...... I'm also curious as to the weight of the gun, for carrying on a hunt. What abou the trigger weight? I like your cache. I suppose you don't mind tell us where it is? Maybe w/GPS references??? Hah!
John S Thanks for that John. Hope you take something useful out of the videos. There's no structure to the blogs, but I try to include something useful in every episode.
Thanks Thomas. Great job on this one, I really look forward to all your videos. Have you ever used a Remington 700 in .308? I'd be curious to see how far you can push one.
If you don't mind i'll appreciate some advises about the 243 caliber and long range.... I'll shoot a Browning X-Bolt with a GRS stock, Nikon 6/24 50Sf, an Atlas bipod and a carbon fiber suppressor i can't recall the brand... From France, Philippe. 🇫🇷🎯🎯🇫🇷
243? I've used it, really liked it and had best success with the Hornady 87gr Vmax and BTHP. Others like very much the 95gr Nosler Ballistic Tip. These 6mm bullets don't have the very best Bc numbers, but they tend to shoot very accurately.
THLR.NO I will for sure ask you some more about it in mid Decembre when it's gonna be in my hands, i'm going to zero it at 100m, then evaluate it at 200m 300 etc and more. What would you consider as a limit in terms of range for this caliber, say for a 50/50cm target?
Good stuff lad! rather small target at 1.5KM ! Steyr makes the finest rifle systems available on the commercial market ( in MY experience) and I appreciate you shooting them so well. The idiot complaining about no first shot hit likely has never shot at extreme distance...if at all! Keep up the good work!
***** had the opportunity to shoot with the Austrian EK Cobra a few times and was so impressed with their M300CISM rifles I finally got one as well as a SSG08 and love 'em both, as they are essentially the same save the furniture. I think only a true match chamber could improve their performance and perhaps different barrel.. my electro-polished Lothar Walther on my SAKO action is much better than I... keep up the good posts and have lots of fun doing so.
Hey! Quick question - how do you find the .338 LM recoil with the can you use compared to a top notch break? Do you find that the suppressor deals mainly with sound and leaves recoil mostly unchained, or are the good cans able to compete with top muzzle breaks on magnum calibers? Thanks!
A silencer is definitively comparable to a brake in terms of recoil reduction and you don't have the invasive soundpressure. Even with eardefenders, a brake slams the noise straight through the skullbone and into the ears leaving me "boiled" after a days shooting. Using a brake is simply not an option for me, I value my hearing too much.
+Flying Anvil It was perhaps a clumsy formulation from me. In this film I had already sorted my ballistics and the rifle needed to be zeroed again. Knowing exactly what click setting 960m required (let's say X clicks), I zeroed the rifle and set the turret to X clicks. Normally I zero my rifles at about 100 meters (112-118m on my shooting range, because that's where the backstop is. Exact zero range isn't important, knowing the exact zero range is).
What altitude are you at with the clouds blowing by like that? or was that water vapor from a water source? either way.. Gorgeous! LOVE IT!! I guess I should shoot some video of the ocean, sand and girls in bikini's as a Thank You for providing me such a beautiful window to peer thru! Once again! Superb Quality Video! and Thank You for being such a good sport as to allow us to go along for the trip! God Love and God Bless You and Yours!
As an alternative to the 6XC ; Robert Whitley's 6mm SuperLR takes a .243 and with one pass thru the 6 SLR die solves the 20 degree shoulder > 30 (like 6XC) / short neck .263"/6,68mm > .321"/8,15mm while retaining 54 gr capacity vs the 6XC's 49 gr...brass is cheaper and >available, the short barrel life problem is solved with the 30* shoulder & longer neck to resolve torched throats and it will push 115gr VLD high BC at the magic 3,000fps/915msec velocity view 6mmar dot com/Super_LR.html
Do you account for the coriolis effect, or do you find it non-relevant? Spør på engelsk så du evnt slipper å svare fler. Fantastiske videoer, selvom denne er haugammal!
@@THLR Takk skal du ha. Jeg har lest om den nå og den virker svært bra. Er du fornøyd med den? Hvis du har den enda. Blir eventuelt cal 308 for min del.
Thanks for taking the time to correspond, Thomas. You do such an outstanding job with your videos, and your style of succinct information and understatement, is truly unique. And very refreshing. So many of the "instructional" videos are loooong and disorganized.
And I see some others are now trying to emulate you. I guess it's their way of complimenting you! Keep up your work!
Hi THLR !
Congretulation for your very nice shoot at longrange ...
from a PGM Ultima Ratio 708 long distance 's shooter , few borders West ;-)
I'm waiting for my future Steyr SSG 7-08 ...2 weeks ;-)
Best Regards from France
+Alan De Galicia I think you'll find that a nice rifle!
Alfa SvD Hello my French friend, we are more than one here now. 😇. On pourra en discuter... 🇫🇷
Cool! I am anxious to see how well it works. Still no cerakote here. Been on work travel for the last couple of months. Now that I am home, I would love to shoot every weekend, but I need to spend time with the family.
First of all: Happy New Year! One thing to make us surely happy is what I just got from Blaser some minutes ago: I had requested a clear statement about availability of 6,5-284 barrels for R93 or R8 several days ago. Today they told me that they checked and that it will be possible again to get those for the "normal" cost of a standard barrel plus the common additional cost for special order. Delivery time should be 3-4 month. So on your marks... :)
Super!
Excellent video, Thomas! Thank you for taking the time to make another one! Have you had a chance to try out that powder coat?
This:low recoil, one pass in-the-sizer-die brass wildcat is the reason I am so anxious to find an alternative barrel source for our R93s. It shoots inside a long barrel full house 6.5x284 withOUT MAX loading pressures. Berger makes wonderful hunting VLDs for us in the US and your Amax sourcing will still be cheap in EU. Having a barrel like this that duplicates the 6.5x284 would allow a shooter to alternate between the two and avoid overheating the throats of either with long practice sessions.
Completely agree with @terjeness... I wish I had the time, terrain and resources to emulate.....If I did, I would !!!! Great job again Thomas! I can only dream!
Nice shooting. Steyr barrels are exceptional. My favorite was a Mannlicher double set in .270 Win.
Yes absolutely! Steyr has a fantastic reputation for precision over here as well.
Nice video Thomas. Always a pleasure to watch.
Thanks, glad you liked it
Oh, I wanted to say - when you mentioned that the bullet might have gone subsonic - that I opted to get the .338AX, with 100-150 fsec faster, to be able to reach out as far as possible......
Morning buddy 😁. Thanks for the interest video buddy. An the action of the rifle sounds lovely, ATB to you an yours 😁 🎅 🎅 👍.
Thanks for that, best wishes for the season!
@@THLR hi buddy. What was the scope.
Schmidt & Bender PMII 3-20x50
@@THLR thanks for your feedback. But mi friend not on my pay. Lol
Wish you were still using the 338!!! Need to get another and go for a hunt!
Great fun, but heavy and expensive to run. Excessively powerful for the hunting I do.
Very nice...always love the scenery and the shooting!
Thanks! Sorry for the late reply, YT didn't notify me of your comment. Just saw it.
That is a big can on that rifle! Another great video!
Yes it is a Hausken moderator. The 338LM requires a fair bit of volume to suppress the sound well.
That is an awesome range you have there, and a beautiful rifle as well!
Nice shooting!
Thanks!
Thanks for the info! Just got bad news from Blaser, they won`t accept any more 6,5-284 barrel orders, even not as special order... :(
Did you get your barrels yet or do you know if there are any other possibilities to get barrels build for R93 in your 6,5-284 version?
Really enjoy watching your videos. The scenery is breath taking as always. Just wondering what your take is on scope levels? Is it a good piece of kit or something one should just learn to get a feel for when their gun is canted?
I don't use levels unless they are inside the scope like with Revic
Thanks for this hint! At least the brass should (hopefully) be no factor for me since my father hunts with 7x64 and uses only factory ammunition. I have to check if he gave away the brass or hopefully still has it (we are hunters AND collectors... ;).
7x64 is lovely, I have looked at that cartridge many times. But 7mm is a real hassle to get bullets for in Norway.
It looks a beast. I need to get out and exercise with my H-S 7mmRM. If you get to NZ welcome to come stay at the 'ranch'.
Thanks. Sorry for replying 8 YEARS later, but for some reason these messages didn't pop up in my warnings until now.
Long ago I had an SSG-P2 with a Hendsolt scope and it was amazing ! I would love a chance to fire a few rounds with this Rig !
I used to have an SSG69 too, one of my first rifles. Extremely well made rifle, especially considering that is was introduced in 1969. But it was really to heavy for hunting, so sold it to a friend.
I wonder, Thomas, if it is rather the wind that made it difficult to repeat the hit at 1670 meters. It's a long way off, with much and varied wind interference possible between you and the target - in wide open terrain. It seems that if it hit the first time, and all things were equal, it should have hit the second or third time. I thought it was remarkable that you calculated all variables just right to have a first hit! Good doping.
Technology and doppler radar is fantastic these days. Add an element of luck...
They claimed that demand was not existing anymore and people would go for 6,5x68 or .270 instead. I asked them already if they could ream a 6,5x55 to 6,5-284. It`s technically possible but twist/rifling would not match... :(
But I hope you will get your barrels anyway, a Blaser technician told me they normaly would still have pre-manufactured ("weißfertig") barrels but when I wanted to order and was connected to the sales department they said no and that it was no longer possible to order. If your order was placed earlier you should also get it, otherwise you should have been informed. So maybe I should call and tell them you want only 4... :)
I have only read about the 8,5x63. They tell that it`s nearly as potential as a .338 WM but with less gas pressure and less recoil and that it`s even more accurate. 6,5-284 barrels for R93 are hardly to get and I just had an offer for a 8,5x63 barrel so I was just thinking about if that caliber would be also good for Longrange. But brass and bullets have also to be calculated so finally I will emulate your setup even more... ;)
Do you have a tip for powder (6,5x55 and 6,5-284) for me? Thanks!
Norma MRP is the powder I used for 6,5x55 and 6,5-284
That is Beautiful Country..
Thanks, it is!
Thomas, It sounds and looks very windy. I notice you don't dial much for windage - do you hold over? Would love too see view through the scope while you shoot!
Hi Thomas, would 7RM be your favorite if cost was same as 6,5? Do you know the 8,5x63? And regarding 6,5x55 and 6,5-284: what powders do you use for reloading? Thanks for your great video-advices, keep them coming! :)
My favorite would be a 7mm for sure. Not sure which though, the 7mm Blaser looks good. I use Norma MRP for the 6,5s
Oh, I forgot, could it be the ammo that varied, thus making consequtive hits at that far a range not consistant? Don't know what ammo you shoot...... I'm also curious as to the weight of the gun, for carrying on a hunt. What abou the trigger weight?
I like your cache. I suppose you don't mind tell us where it is? Maybe w/GPS references??? Hah!
Yes. This is too heavy to hunt with, not practical. Trigger weight, no idea
Nice to see those shooting distances. When you were on your map what where you checking? Long hand elevation or distance estimation?
Cannot remember. Most likely range, I used to be "expert level" navigator and could plot positions very very accurately.
Beautiful pice of film.
+StantheGunman Thanks! :)
Bixn-andy dot at produces outstanding barrls with customized (e. g. Benchrest or CIP min) chambers.
Bravo nice video and shoot , l have steyer cl ll for hunting , beautiful rifles, best regards
Steyr makes very accurate rifles. Best of luck with your season!
Mate you have got some talent
John S Thanks for that John. Hope you take something useful out of the videos. There's no structure to the blogs, but I try to include something useful in every episode.
***** INDEED!!! Please see my post... best regards.
På hvor lang avstand tror du man kan skyte med 30.06? Har en winchester M70 30.06 og tenkte på å bruke American Eagle ammo?
Awesome Thomas.
Thanks
Thanks Thomas. Great job on this one, I really look forward to all your videos.
Have you ever used a Remington 700 in .308? I'd be curious to see how far you can push one.
No surry. I used to have a Rem 700 Classic 6,5x55 topped with a 6x42 scope and liked it well enough for normal ranges,.
Great setup, thx for the vid
Thanks!
If you don't mind i'll appreciate some advises about the 243 caliber and long range.... I'll shoot a Browning X-Bolt with a GRS stock, Nikon 6/24 50Sf, an Atlas bipod and a carbon fiber suppressor i can't recall the brand... From France, Philippe. 🇫🇷🎯🎯🇫🇷
243? I've used it, really liked it and had best success with the Hornady 87gr Vmax and BTHP. Others like very much the 95gr Nosler Ballistic Tip. These 6mm bullets don't have the very best Bc numbers, but they tend to shoot very accurately.
THLR.NO I will for sure ask you some more about it in mid Decembre when it's gonna be in my hands, i'm going to zero it at 100m, then evaluate it at 200m 300 etc and more. What would you consider as a limit in terms of range for this caliber, say for a 50/50cm target?
Philippe FRATER Extremely situation dependant. The 6mm will fly as good as anything with the right bullet.
Great job!
Thanks
Good stuff lad! rather small target at 1.5KM ! Steyr makes the finest rifle systems available on the commercial market ( in MY experience) and I appreciate you shooting them so well. The idiot complaining about no first shot hit likely has never shot at extreme distance...if at all! Keep up the good work!
Jerry Sullivan Many thanks for that Jerry. Yes Steyr makes impressive rifles considering this is a factory rifle - it shoots incredibly well.
***** had the opportunity to shoot with the Austrian EK Cobra a few times and was so impressed with their M300CISM rifles I finally got one as well as a SSG08 and love 'em both, as they are essentially the same save the furniture. I think only a true match chamber could improve their performance and perhaps different barrel.. my electro-polished Lothar Walther on my SAKO action is much better than I... keep up the good posts and have lots of fun doing so.
Jerry Sullivan Thanks for that, will do my best! Lothar walther is underestimated as far as barrels go, they are usually very good.
Hey! Quick question - how do you find the .338 LM recoil with the can you use compared to a top notch break? Do you find that the suppressor deals mainly with sound and leaves recoil mostly unchained, or are the good cans able to compete with top muzzle breaks on magnum calibers? Thanks!
A silencer is definitively comparable to a brake in terms of recoil reduction and you don't have the invasive soundpressure. Even with eardefenders, a brake slams the noise straight through the skullbone and into the ears leaving me "boiled" after a days shooting. Using a brake is simply not an option for me, I value my hearing too much.
Hi Thomas, I was wondering why you would zero this rifle at 960m?
Also.. I really enjoy your video blog! very inspiring!!
+Flying Anvil It was perhaps a clumsy formulation from me. In this film I had already sorted my ballistics and the rifle needed to be zeroed again. Knowing exactly what click setting 960m required (let's say X clicks), I zeroed the rifle and set the turret to X clicks. Normally I zero my rifles at about 100 meters (112-118m on my shooting range, because that's where the backstop is. Exact zero range isn't important, knowing the exact zero range is).
At 1670 m you hit first time because was cold bore shot. Stil very impresive range.
You are the best!!@@
Very generous, but no. :)
is recoil an issue here? because you are not using a muzzle brake
0:32, are you telling me if i walk about "some place" in northern norway i might find a Steyr SSG? Might boost my wilderness interests:)
Yeah, it's gone now though
@@THLR All right, ill stop looking then!
Nice shooting.
Thanks! The Steyr really is a stable platform to shoot from.
What altitude are you at with the clouds blowing by like that? or was that water vapor from a water source? either way.. Gorgeous! LOVE IT!!
I guess I should shoot some video of the ocean, sand and girls in bikini's as a Thank You for providing me such a beautiful window to peer thru!
Once again! Superb Quality Video! and Thank You for being such a good sport as to allow us to go along for the trip!
God Love and God Bless You and Yours!
This is rougly 1000 moh or 3000 ft
Norma?
Ahh location point reference.
What load do you use In your .338lm and how many meters per second?
Cannot remember. It was Vit N570 powder
Which round in your opinion reaches out the furthest?
My favorite is 300 Norma. Same performance as 338 LM, but with more control.
@1670m your 1st shot was a hit and the rest missed, do you think that the hot barrel had anything to do with the misses (POI)?
No. Just not having enough control over my shooting and ammunition.
1670 m kaç klik çevirdiniz
I cannot possibly remember, this film is almost 10 years old.
Is that skin factory new? offer is 500gp
soapmeridius No idea what you are saying...
***** It's a joke from Counter-Strike, the game (where you can get 'skins' for your guns). Don't mind me!
Aaaaaah, that brings back memories... :D
You are not using subsonic ammo. Suppresor d'nt heart?
No, the primary function of the suppressor is to reduce recoil and noise.
Er denne bedre en Barret 98B ??????
Det vet jeg ikke.
What scope rings are you using?
This is a Spuhr mount
As an alternative to the 6XC ; Robert Whitley's 6mm SuperLR takes a .243 and with one pass thru the 6 SLR die solves the 20 degree shoulder > 30 (like 6XC) / short neck .263"/6,68mm > .321"/8,15mm while retaining 54 gr capacity vs the 6XC's 49 gr...brass is cheaper and >available, the short barrel life problem is solved with the 30* shoulder & longer neck to resolve torched throats and it will push 115gr VLD high BC at the magic 3,000fps/915msec velocity view 6mmar dot com/Super_LR.html
Do you account for the coriolis effect, or do you find it non-relevant?
Spør på engelsk så du evnt slipper å svare fler. Fantastiske videoer, selvom denne er haugammal!
On the very longest shots, yes. Not that it has had any practical effect on my hitrate at those distances.
hvor kjøpte du riflen?
Jaktdepotet i Drammen
@@THLR Takk skal du ha. Jeg har lest om den nå og den virker svært bra. Er du fornøyd med den? Hvis du har den enda. Blir eventuelt cal 308 for min del.
Ja for all del, i den prisklassen er du på øverste hylle uansett hva du velger.
how can I 've a personal contact with u ? an @mail pls .Good noval about longrange range record ahahaha
+Alan De Galicia You'll find the contact function on my company website thlr.no.
Not much at all to show.
No and I don't speak either. There's just no way I can compete with the more popular videos.
Other delightfull video! Thanks for share your adventures! ;)
Did you though on put a camera near the target, not too close for sure, to show the bullet impacts better?
I don't think I would be able to get any recordings
Do you recomend to buy a range finder or just pratice to aquire expertise?
Definitively rangefinder. Everything else is just a redundancy measurement.