I came to Falcon late after owning basically everything else for decades. I’d never, ever, thought of myself as driving a Ford! It was a matter of elimination that led me there. I figured out my requirements, my price point, my cost of running etc and did a lot of research. I’m now a very happy owner of a 2010 wagon running on gas who actually, for the first time in years, enjoys going for a drive.
I found driving feedback was best in AU, B series dropped off in fit and finish but got the better driveline, and FG got the quality control back and felt most ‘complete’ but gained weight and size to the point you had to go a fair bit faster to have as much fun. My 2c after owning each but I’d prefer any of them over a new car payment!
The best car I ever owned was an FG XR6. it was super quick with the Barra 195 and beautiful to drive. I found out a few weeks after I got it that it was an ex-detectives police car. I had an AU II Forte before the FG and it was a nice car but I always wanted the FG. Unfortunately I had to sell the FG due to a few of life's unexpected problems but if I can ever go back to a falcon it would be either the FG or FG-X.
I just bought a mint AUIII VCT Ghia for the same reason, and the double wishbone IRS is the only decent IRS ever made here and only available on the AU.
BF2. Far better than BA, and miles better (fit & finish wise) to the FG, FG2 & FG X. I owned a brand new BF2 XR8 manual, and the fit, finish, NVH et al is far, Far better than my current FG2 XR6T. The redeeming features on the FG series was the drivetrain; if Falcons from B series onwards had used the AU3 IRS, it would have been miles better as the Control Blade system tram lines badly, and was made to a budget.
I own a BF Mark2 XR8 Manual ute it has 180000 on it put new coils,clutch,ball joints,brakes and it's running great I service it regularly and she's awesome on the highway with the six speed manual.
You are not Robinson Crusoe there mate , if people considered real LONG TERM durability & cost to own & maintain over decades , instead of power & 0 to 100 times & other performance related bullshit , there would only be one picture in the thumbnail , au of course .
It is, this bloke is clueless.He'sprev cocmmented on the old x flows and clearly has no idea how good some of them were. they were one of the first oz engines grey imported into their drag racing scene and were so good they were banned at some strips
Lewis race engines built mine in a TE Cortina. V8 Hunter / HUMILIATOR. Build them right they are torque monsters! Bullet proof & seriously badass. The trick is maximizing torque 2K rpm to 6. Thats this engines G spot. Around 4 K rpm peak torque. 5.8- 6 peak HP. Just make sure your drivetrain is up for it. As the torque will devour anything unprepared. Maximum thermodynamic efficiency is what this freak is all about. One of the best in the world that regard.
@@martyburgess341 i stuck one in an xa van, it would absolutely eat my mates 308 hj monaro. John moyle racing built the engine, blued, balanced. Chev roller arms, Doug thorley bag pipes. Glorious note. A seriously good motor. Always cracks me up seeing blokes dismissing them. Reinforces how little they know about the old motors. Slant 6’s were the same. Under appreciated by a golden mile.
I managed to get a base FGX that was traded in at work. payed more than I should, but when you want something braincells go out the window. It is also an EcoLPI. Victoria's GAS network is still ok for the time being, but knowing that the phase out is going to be happening slowly. I have come to name my Falcon. 'Final Stand'. As the K's go up and the stations price signs go blank it will be driving until it can't no more. I hope it outlives the fuel it was designed to run on.
I've seen one I repeat one base model FGX plastic wheel covers and white in colour. All others have been XRs or some other higher tier model. Seen I one bog standard one tonner and can't recall any regular utes.
Just seen this vid as a former au 1 xr8 owner and driven a few series 1 au xr6's,.the series 1 au's have awfully light steering to the point they feel extremely nervous at speed, the au 2 xrs are much better in terms of steering feel, i wouldn't ever consider an au series 1 ever, the sweet spot in aussie cars is the ve series 1 sv6, the sv6 has the awesome red dash and its steering is sublime, I can clearly see why they said in the wheels mag at the ve launch that the steering is as good or better than any bmw, and the ve feels like its been built like a bank vault compared to the ba. Important to note that the ve v8s lose the incredible steering feel of the 6's due to the heavier engine up front (my ve2 ss ute) lost the beautiful steering feel of the ve sv6. The vf commodre also loses the beautiful ve steering by going electric. Oh and a demo bf xr6 i once drove at a dealer displayed some of the nervous steering at speed that the au had but no where near as bad.
To be honest really any Falcons from the late 60's + till 2016 are all good in their own way. My FG XR6 XR6 Turbo is great, my partners old BA XR6 was probably one of the most reliable cars I've witnessed as a mechanic. We have a EA Falcon and ED Fairmont which again are both great. Sooo many good Falcons.
Ive had ba xr6 one owner 200000 ks fgx turbo ute from new and the au 2000 fotre i have original 335000ks looked after drives so much better than the ba smoother better ride imo and is so much more comfortable obviously fgx turbo ute is hard to beat.but that au is so nice to drive
@@TKDPWR I know the video you’re talking about. I own that silver one in the video and lined up a few boys at an FGX owners cruise meet up thing a couple years ago
There's no such thing as a bad Falcon, except for the EA. That was complete dogshit. Then again the VN Commo was also dogshit, but slightly less stinky.
Yet I've heard of owners who swear by their 1988 built examples and testimonial of a guy who took a drive of a well kept one not that long ago and was amazed how nice it drove. They were revolutionary.
Would never own a FGX Falcon ever again ! Rust buckets and made of plastic, now own a 2017 VF2 SS Redline and it’s day and night difference in quality ! My FGX rear boot lid rusted completely out ! Every FGX owner watching this remove the rubber plugs stopping water pissing in from your tail lights getting out ! Was long time Ford through and through no more !
I started with commodores owned 15 of them great cars but also emptys your account faster then you can see your income go in spent more time repairing them so i saw the light and went to ford because fords are better in size quality and durability there just better
@@Fgxguymost ba-bf falcons are falling apart in the interior department, all the fg 5 speed autos are now shot and are a $4k plus fix, most VE 5 speed autos are now on 300k plus ks without issue.
@@danielnicholson6174 🤣🤣 VE 300ks very amateur ks if you ask me theres a reason why fords are the prefered fleet vehicles for taxis they just run forever i go to the wreckers regulary and barely see any falcons insight all i see is vt vx vys and ves available
@@Fgxguy VE is a better drive than the equivalent falcon simple as that, yes you can have a boring taxi but I'll take the one with much better dynamics and steering any day, and you see many more commodores because they sold so many more.
None of them the best falcon made is a modified manual xh falcon ute xr6 or xr8 with its 3.45.1 lsd diff or modified true track diff with flipped rear leafs and no you don’t flip the whole leaf pack there’s a certain way of making a xh Ute handle better than ba bf el Ef fg or common dore either a mix and match of AU parts in the front suspension department or using the fg k frame with mix and match of various Ford parts from different models to make it handle like it’s on rails as far as engine goes fg turbo Barra or xr au intech with turbo or if you’re xh is xr8 well the possibility’s are pretty well established with a stroked 347 302 Windsor block with LS1 heads and your up there in the power supply only issues with that is no one makes a intake manifold for them yet but could be quite easily made with a tig welder XH Utes are the best to modify and drive weather it’s smart street or drag or drift basically it’s all about how big your bank account is and driving a stock factory falcon is boring nothing better than a tuff fat xh Ute custom hard lid mags aka Simmons custom front bar custom rear bar custom bonnet custom dash custom tailgate with late model camera 🎥 handle hilux . dvd screen in dash
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I came to Falcon late after owning basically everything else for decades. I’d never, ever, thought of myself as driving a Ford! It was a matter of elimination that led me there. I figured out my requirements, my price point, my cost of running etc and did a lot of research. I’m now a very happy owner of a 2010 wagon running on gas who actually, for the first time in years, enjoys going for a drive.
I found driving feedback was best in AU, B series dropped off in fit and finish but got the better driveline, and FG got the quality control back and felt most ‘complete’ but gained weight and size to the point you had to go a fair bit faster to have as much fun.
My 2c after owning each but I’d prefer any of them over a new car payment!
The best car I ever owned was an FG XR6. it was super quick with the Barra 195 and beautiful to drive. I found out a few weeks after I got it that it was an ex-detectives police car. I had an AU II Forte before the FG and it was a nice car but I always wanted the FG. Unfortunately I had to sell the FG due to a few of life's unexpected problems but if I can ever go back to a falcon it would be either the FG or FG-X.
I've said it before, AU Falcon XR/Ghia with IRS is best Falcon.
I just bought a mint AUIII VCT Ghia for the same reason, and the double wishbone IRS is the only decent IRS ever made here and only available on the AU.
BF2.
Far better than BA, and miles better (fit & finish wise) to the FG, FG2 & FG X.
I owned a brand new BF2 XR8 manual, and the fit, finish, NVH et al is far, Far better than my current FG2 XR6T.
The redeeming features on the FG series was the drivetrain; if Falcons from B series onwards had used the AU3 IRS, it would have been miles better as the Control Blade system tram lines badly, and was made to a budget.
FGX XR8 followed by BF MKII xr6t. I own both because I can't part with the BF but rarely drive it as the xr8 is just too nice
The Fgx model is highly underrated
Agreed!
Good cars just kinda ugly
@@bw5486 i thought so to but like the AU it grew on me and o actually think they look the best after owning 1
@@bw5486 Not ugly, have a good look
My FGX is a great car, my BA was a great car for 13 years
I own a BF Mark2 XR8 Manual ute it has 180000 on it put new coils,clutch,ball joints,brakes and it's running great I service it regularly and she's awesome on the highway with the six speed manual.
Bf mk2 with a zf 6 speed. The seating position is way better than a fg for sure
the au is the best car ever made i will stand by that until i die
You are not Robinson Crusoe there mate , if people considered real LONG TERM durability & cost to own & maintain over decades , instead of power & 0 to 100 times & other performance related bullshit , there would only be one picture in the thumbnail , au of course .
Best Aussie Ford ever. That's why I bought a mint AUIII Faimont Ghia now parked next to my EH Holden Premier. Best Aussie Holden ever.
No it's the xy gt
I always thought the 250 Crossflow is the Grandaddy of the Barra and the Intech is the father of the Barra
It is, this bloke is clueless.He'sprev cocmmented on the old x flows and clearly has no idea how good some of them were. they were one of the first oz engines grey imported into their drag racing scene and were so good they were banned at some strips
@@gfenwick1 Iv'e driven a few 250 powered fords and i agree! Tons of torque and super responsive.
Lewis race engines built mine in a TE Cortina. V8 Hunter / HUMILIATOR. Build them right they are torque monsters! Bullet proof & seriously badass. The trick is maximizing torque 2K rpm to 6. Thats this engines G spot. Around 4 K rpm peak torque. 5.8- 6 peak HP. Just make sure your drivetrain is up for it.
As the torque will devour anything unprepared. Maximum thermodynamic efficiency is what this freak is all about. One of the best in the world that regard.
@@martyburgess341 i stuck one in an xa van, it would absolutely eat my mates 308 hj monaro. John moyle racing built the engine, blued, balanced. Chev roller arms, Doug thorley bag pipes. Glorious note. A seriously good motor. Always cracks me up seeing blokes dismissing them. Reinforces how little they know about the old motors. Slant 6’s were the same. Under appreciated by a golden mile.
It is
I managed to get a base FGX that was traded in at work. payed more than I should, but when you want something braincells go out the window. It is also an EcoLPI. Victoria's GAS network is still ok for the time being, but knowing that the phase out is going to be happening slowly. I have come to name my Falcon. 'Final Stand'. As the K's go up and the stations price signs go blank it will be driving until it can't no more. I hope it outlives the fuel it was designed to run on.
The standard hey-you’s had 157kws, not 164kw. The XR6 had 164kw.
HP intech had 164kw, VCT intech had 172kw
@@azza9538 correct…
I've seen one I repeat one base model FGX plastic wheel covers and white in colour. All others have been XRs or some other higher tier model.
Seen I one bog standard one tonner and can't recall any regular utes.
Grew up in the Ford vs Holden. Ambrose vs skaife era. It's the bseries for me
Get a AU fairlane
I have an AU ute with a XR6 spec engine and a BA wagon with a supercharged barra.
How did you find the only three falcons in Australia that have working bonnet struts?
Au s3 xr6 hp, went hard as fuck back in the day
lighter than b series , better steering feedback & far superior double wishbone independent rear end .
Ive got the BA and a E series Ford and the misus has a FGX G6E my favourite car is E series and the BA
The FG and FGX G6E Turbo models are sleepers
Great video there, Nathan.
Thanks very much for creating and sharing cheers.
William.
I swear every b series XR6 grey top starts misfiring every 6 months for a different reason each time...
that snot box au will out last them shitty b n f series, dont have to service a au, do diff bushes, there the goat
Right on there brother 👍
Awesome content dude as always 👌🏻🤘🏻😎
FGX sprint
Good Ol Pete HASNT uploaded in a while ! What happened ?
You won’t get a FGX for $15k ! And gas is being fazed out.
The real question is when you gunna turbo the Barra we all know u will get sick of the stock Barra
Y not supercharge it?
B series undoubtedly
Just seen this vid as a former au 1 xr8 owner and driven a few series 1 au xr6's,.the series 1 au's have awfully light steering to the point they feel extremely nervous at speed, the au 2 xrs are much better in terms of steering feel, i wouldn't ever consider an au series 1 ever, the sweet spot in aussie cars is the ve series 1 sv6, the sv6 has the awesome red dash and its steering is sublime, I can clearly see why they said in the wheels mag at the ve launch that the steering is as good or better than any bmw, and the ve feels like its been built like a bank vault compared to the ba. Important to note that the ve v8s lose the incredible steering feel of the 6's due to the heavier engine up front (my ve2 ss ute) lost the beautiful steering feel of the ve sv6. The vf commodre also loses the beautiful ve steering by going electric. Oh and a demo bf xr6 i once drove at a dealer displayed some of the nervous steering at speed that the au had but no where near as bad.
To be honest really any Falcons from the late 60's + till 2016 are all good in their own way.
My FG XR6 XR6 Turbo is great, my partners old BA XR6 was probably one of the most reliable cars I've witnessed as a mechanic.
We have a EA Falcon and ED Fairmont which again are both great.
Sooo many good Falcons.
Ive had ba xr6 one owner 200000 ks fgx turbo ute from new and the au 2000 fotre i have original 335000ks looked after drives so much better than the ba smoother better ride imo and is so much more comfortable obviously fgx turbo ute is hard to beat.but that au is so nice to drive
put a tr6060 or t56 or try do a zf in the bf2 surely (ez said than done), would help alot of us btr bound boys
find it hard to believe ecolpi is quicker than petrol...
Tried and tested! Ecolpi also beats XR8 from 0-60
@@peter_brash this is not from that video they tested all three before release at an airport is it? Im genuinely curious as i want one
@@TKDPWR I know the video you’re talking about. I own that silver one in the video and lined up a few boys at an FGX owners cruise meet up thing a couple years ago
@@TKDPWR they’re actually fantastic cars. I’ll be keeping mine for as long as LPG is around
@@peter_brash im sold bro!!! BTW love to see more updates on your 4x4 on youtube
There's no such thing as a bad Falcon, except for the EA. That was complete dogshit. Then again the VN Commo was also dogshit, but slightly less stinky.
Yet I've heard of owners who swear by their 1988 built examples and testimonial of a guy who took a drive of a well kept one not that long ago and was amazed how nice it drove. They were revolutionary.
The VN didnt need a bottle of Chemiweld every second week. Not even in the same league
Got a EA Series 2 S Pac at home 34 years old and drives so nicely, one of the most comfortable cars to drive in.
Love the new video mate
Waut till you have to change the transmission oil on the FGX 6 speed box. Ay Carumbá!
2012-2014 FG
2008-2015
Would never own a FGX Falcon ever again ! Rust buckets and made of plastic, now own a 2017 VF2 SS Redline and it’s day and night difference in quality ! My FGX rear boot lid rusted completely out ! Every FGX owner watching this remove the rubber plugs stopping water pissing in from your tail lights getting out ! Was long time Ford through and through no more !
That’s a strange looking Jaguar mate.
Great video. up the falcon
In it's time, the BA was the best. It was significantly better than the VY Commodore of the same time.
The others simply weren't.
I was a Ford man all the way then one day I bought a Commodore I'm a changed man and see the light I'm born again 😂
thats like me but in reverse
I started with commodores owned 15 of them great cars but also emptys your account faster then you can see your income go in spent more time repairing them so i saw the light and went to ford because fords are better in size quality and durability there just better
@@Fgxguymost ba-bf falcons are falling apart in the interior department, all the fg 5 speed autos are now shot and are a $4k plus fix, most VE 5 speed autos are now on 300k plus ks without issue.
@@danielnicholson6174 🤣🤣 VE 300ks very amateur ks if you ask me theres a reason why fords are the prefered fleet vehicles for taxis they just run forever i go to the wreckers regulary and barely see any falcons insight all i see is vt vx vys and ves available
@@Fgxguy VE is a better drive than the equivalent falcon simple as that, yes you can have a boring taxi but I'll take the one with much better dynamics and steering any day, and you see many more commodores because they sold so many more.
I'm having an AUgasm
On that limi
Gassy
None of them the best falcon made is a modified manual xh falcon ute xr6 or xr8 with its 3.45.1 lsd diff or modified true track diff with flipped rear leafs and no you don’t flip the whole leaf pack there’s a certain way of making a xh Ute handle better than ba bf el Ef fg or common dore either a mix and match of AU parts in the front suspension department or using the fg k frame with mix and match of various Ford parts from different models to make it handle like it’s on rails as far as engine goes fg turbo Barra or xr au intech with turbo or if you’re xh is xr8 well the possibility’s are pretty well established with a stroked 347 302 Windsor block with LS1 heads and your up there in the power supply only issues with that is no one makes a intake manifold for them yet but could be quite easily made with a tig welder XH Utes are the best to modify and drive weather it’s smart street or drag or drift basically it’s all about how big your bank account is and driving a stock factory falcon is boring nothing better than a tuff fat xh Ute custom hard lid mags aka Simmons custom front bar custom rear bar custom bonnet custom dash custom tailgate with late model camera 🎥 handle hilux . dvd screen in dash
nahhh FG MK1 was peak
Yoshio factory is trying to make it to Australia time attack this year it would be great if you could shout out they need support
The one that can do a proper skid without breaking. 😜
volumptous?
BAF is best - Coz I own a BA hahaha
Au1
au , any au , better than b shit onwards.
Loose the ear piercing and be a qualified Ford mechanic and I'll believe what you're saying.
He’s stuck in the 90s
FG Ford is hideous, the grill is the bumper, ugly.