Lot of people work on their feet in worse conditions all day. When I was in the Army, if you were sitting it was either lunch time or you were driving somewhere and then the rides were so long you'd wish you were standing. People don't know what real work is anymore. Like he said, this used to be all manual labor. These guys have it made in the shade. Its a walk in the park compared to the guys that did it manually.
on our tie gangs there is lots on the ground. plate throwers to grab the good plates on the old tie, plate setters to put them on new ties, the plate lifter guys (its best to use the proper tool to place the plates, will save you on boot buying, you can see the tool on the side the green vest is on with the handle and is silver in colour), then we have clean up crew to put back on anchors and spike down any spikes the spikers has trouble with.
Those TRIPP's are totally awesome Jose, I sure hope you soon get your wish. Thank you very much for tuning in and watching the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
My engineer sir. Video is very Beautifull with informative by these views of inserting of railway track steeplers with setting of spikes. I am your friend Thomaskutty from India 🇮🇳
That was an older video and not one of my best. Here is another much better video of them inserting ties if you would like to watch it ruclips.net/video/xKFX7U35sTs/видео.html
Yep, LOL... have no clue why this guy didn't have one but it sure isn't very good practice safety wise to use a tie plate for doing that. These were contractors. Appreciate your watching David
Never seems to fail, that once you start filming an operation, things start to not go so smoothly. The tie inserter and tie plate guys were moving smoothly along until they reached you and the camera was running. Ha Ha.
Really cool! Thanks for sharing. Seems like the apparatus needs some bushings and grease. She’s shaking and shuddering worse than Michael J Fox on a balance beam! Or is that how they all are?
1 time years ago I ran a TKO for a day, wasn't a fun day, too hot, no cab, rickety old machine and I didn't know what I was doing. Always wondered what TKO stood for? Slangily I thought tie knocker outer, but have no clue if that what it really stood for or not
@@ccrx6700 can I get your Opinion on spike mauling? I see many other channels and no one can spike properly!! One or two man.. I spiked 1,2,and 3 man and I don't see it done properly.!! Your Opinion please. 😃
@@michaelobrien1532 yep Michael, have 10 guys and you'll get 10 methods, everyone i've seen got their own little twists or call it quirks. I never had a buddy who was coordinated enough to two man spike 😭
What’s the story with concrete ties? Can you mix and match? Wood is way too expensive where I live. Furniture makers would kill for the quantity and quality of hardwood that was laid under railways back in the day.
Yes you can mix however my old 6700 tamper in order to switch from concrete to wood requires me to manually adjust 4 limit switches on the work heads, about an hours job, then would have to re adjust them to go back to wood. No way that gonna happen. The new tampers and those with the Jupiter 2 operating system have a toggle in the cab to switch. Concrete ties are thicker than wood so the work heads need to be able to drive down further with wood. The limit switches stop the downward movement at whatever point I set them at. Much new construction now is concrete.
am guessing that a lot more can be done in a given time, if each step is done by a machine made just for that job ,instead of a multi use machine that would take more time to do many things
Glad you enjoyed Larry, sorry but I can't say when all the different machines were available. I do know the mechanized tampers came out around the mid 1940's. Appreciate your watching the video sir
when sliding plates, our rail lifter guys had forks/tongs which fit into the rail spike holes. made sliding & steering the plate easier. also prevented over sliding. lots of new ties Dave. looking good. how many ties were they averaging per day?
I have no idea why these guys didn't have those plate hooks, many times in the past they did use them, they for sure make things easier for a hard job. That video was taken over 2 years ago and my memory on how many ties they did is not clear but believe it was around 5 to 600. Thank you Mr. Railroader for taking in the video today.
What are the metal grid plates on the ends of the ties for? Are they maybe to reduce splitting as the ties weather, or for something else? (I love your videos, btw; they’re just the sort of thing I love, to feed my geeky brain :-)
@@ccrx6700 Wow, thanks: I think you win the award for the fastest reply ever to a post of mine on YT! I really do enjoy all your behind-the-scenes videos of railroading. (But I'm spending waaay too much time watching them, vs doing things I actually should be doing :-0)
@@ccrx6700 I think it's worth one standard "atto-boy". That's 10^-18 boys, meaning once you accumulate 10^18 of them, you get one "boy", meaning someone to help you with whatever you're doing :-)
While a lot of this is still hard work, its nothing compared to 100 years ago. I think of those men 100 years ago having to handle sticks of rail. Is today´s heaviest rail 132 lb or is some heavier?
Great question! On average bout 20 to 25 years depending on track bed conditions under them, obviously mud or fouled ballast under them with little drainage means ties wear out at a faster rate
Keith, we are only replacing the ties that we felt were bad, by a bad tie I am meaning one with big splits on the end or ties that won't hold a spike tight anymore. The ties in between are in pretty good shape. Thank you for watching sir
Ken, I'm cribbing out these ties, but I have to stop and wait for the tie gang to get thru before I can continue, so I got a few minutes to be able to do this
Daniel, good question sir. Since we do not connect with another railroad then everything has to be trucked in. We usually get a couple of shut downs from miners vacation and underground long wall moves a couple of times a year, so for those short periods it's go like crazy try get as much done as possible. Other than that we do have a grapple truck come in for special jobs like unloading rail or replacing a days worth of ties. Appreciate your watching
ties are 19 inches from base of rail to end of tie on the field side of the rail. A guy goes in front of the TRIPP marking the ties with chalk. Thanks so much for taking the time to tune in and check out the video my friend.
@@ccrx6700 Thanks! I saw the videos out of sequence and I saw the process after I asked! Thanks again for those great up-close videos of railroading life!
They are pressed on the ends of the ties to help prevent checking and splitting of the tie ends. Pretty neat and it works very well, appreciate your watching Bobby Brooks
@@ccrx6700 thanks...The original question was possed by Hobo Shoestring (his and his channels name) who has 30 years traveling experiance...He noticed them from below on ties on a trestle or bridge where they stood out....
Почему в Америке все еще используют деревянные шпалы? В Росси в Европе, даже в Китае уже давно железобетонные ставят, они крепче, долговечнее и надежнее.
I understand Barry, since then I have graduated to a GoPro, so those things are better than the cell phone, forgive me for my rookiness in making these please. Thanks for watching
Das sind ja Befestigungsschritte und Abläufe wie im 19 Jahrhundert. Schnellstens nach Österreich zu Plasser&Theurer nach Wien fahren und moderne Maschinen für das 21 Jahrhundert Einkaufen es EILT SEHR !!!
Passin' the time away, all the live long day!
The HERZOG is with you!
If I ever find the 9 downvoting scumbags, I’ll use THEM as ties!!!
Thanks for posting!
Fascinating. I don't t know how anyone could not be amazed at railroading.
Thanks Lindsey, glad you enjoyed the home movie
Nice job
I used to make the attachments for the Tripp remover. At OEM Fab.
Well maybe one you made was on this machine, that would be
pretty cool. Thanks for writing in and watching the video Peter.
Great video Dave.
Thank you Bob! Yes they can and sometimes do use a magnet on the grapple truck to pick up spikes. Glad you enjoyed watching
Two more incredible machines. Would NOT like to work the platers. On your feet all day and in the sun! Thanks, Dave.
Your welcome Ray, yep plating all day a good job for a young guy! But when you and me
were younger we coulda done it
Lot of people work on their feet in worse conditions all day. When I was in the Army, if you were sitting it was either lunch time or you were driving somewhere and then the rides were so long you'd wish you were standing. People don't know what real work is anymore. Like he said, this used to be all manual labor. These guys have it made in the shade. Its a walk in the park compared to the guys that did it manually.
on our tie gangs there is lots on the ground. plate throwers to grab the good plates on the old tie, plate setters to put them on new ties, the plate lifter guys (its best to use the proper tool to place the plates, will save you on boot buying, you can see the tool on the side the green vest is on with the handle and is silver in colour), then we have clean up crew to put back on anchors and spike down any spikes the spikers has trouble with.
Man at work
Quite an operation!
I operate a Geismar MT machine, which is an antique. I wish I one day I could run a TRIPP
Those TRIPP's are totally awesome Jose, I sure hope you
soon get your wish. Thank you very much for tuning in and watching the video and may you have a very good day my friend.
Thanks for another interesting video Dave!
Your welcome Rick, thanks for watching.
Very cool.
Those things are amazing.
Tommy, yes they are, love watching them work!
My engineer sir.
Video is very Beautifull with informative
by these views of inserting of railway track steeplers with setting of spikes.
I am your friend Thomaskutty from India
🇮🇳
That was an older video and not one of my best. Here is another
much better video of them inserting ties if you would like to watch it
ruclips.net/video/xKFX7U35sTs/видео.html
best advice buddy will hear for the remainder of his life, "you need a spikin maul buddy"
Yep, LOL... have no clue why this guy didn't have one but it sure isn't
very good practice safety wise to use a tie plate for doing that. These were contractors. Appreciate your watching David
Never seems to fail, that once you start filming an operation, things start to not go so smoothly. The tie inserter and tie plate guys were moving smoothly along until they reached you and the camera was running. Ha Ha.
The tie machine looks like it's based on a grader frame or chassis. The spine the equipment hangs from and the cab could easily be a grader.
Neil, sure looks like it doesn't it.
Just a later model of the t r10
Fun fun
Imagine when they had to do all that by hand out in the hot summer sun. Talk about a days work!
Bill, we were young once.... this is so much better now, appreciate your watching sir
Really cool! Thanks for sharing. Seems like the apparatus needs some bushings and grease. She’s shaking and shuddering worse than Michael J Fox on a balance beam! Or is that how they all are?
Hope the company supplies their boots. They need to have special shoes with a steel plate about 5 inches wide across the toe.
A plater?? Wish we had one!! All done by hand hear. Best time I had was on the Inserter.
1 time years ago I ran a TKO for a day, wasn't a fun day, too hot,
no cab, rickety old machine and I didn't know what I was doing.
Always wondered what TKO stood for? Slangily I thought tie knocker outer, but have no clue if that what it really stood for or not
@@ccrx6700 can I get your Opinion on spike mauling? I see many other channels and no one can spike properly!! One or two man..
I spiked 1,2,and 3 man and I don't see it done properly.!! Your Opinion please. 😃
@@michaelobrien1532 yep Michael, have 10 guys and you'll get 10 methods, everyone i've seen got their own little twists or call it quirks. I never had a buddy who was coordinated enough to two man spike 😭
Neat
Next you tamp, Dave? By the way, I thought your "new to you" Ford truck rode quite comfortably. Thank you for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed the ride Shirley, we really like having you sit
beside us my friend.
What’s the story with concrete ties? Can you mix and match? Wood is way too expensive where I live. Furniture makers would kill for the quantity and quality of hardwood that was laid under railways back in the day.
Yes you can mix however my old 6700 tamper in order to
switch from concrete to wood requires me to manually adjust
4 limit switches on the work heads, about an hours job, then
would have to re adjust them to go back to wood. No way that
gonna happen. The new tampers and those with the Jupiter 2
operating system have a toggle in the cab to switch. Concrete
ties are thicker than wood so the work heads need to be able
to drive down further with wood. The limit switches stop
the downward movement at whatever point I set them at. Much
new construction now is concrete.
am guessing that a lot more can be done in a given time, if each step is done by a machine made just for that job ,instead of a multi use machine that would take more time to do many things
Amazing the machines they have for track work now. Put tens of thousands of section gangs out of work tho. Used be all this was done by manual labor
Couldn’t imagine this by hand with a crew geez
Lots of fun trust me!
How are you faring with coal dust seeping into the ballsst? I've seen some sections look like gumbo
Very interesting video. Approximately when did those machines become available to the railroads??
Glad you enjoyed Larry, sorry but I can't say when all the different
machines were available. I do know the mechanized tampers came
out around the mid 1940's. Appreciate your watching the video sir
I wondered why there was such a big gap between ties? Great action on the rails👍👍
The other ties are just buried under ballast
Good morning 0641, Jan. 17, 2022
when sliding plates, our rail lifter guys had forks/tongs which fit into the rail spike holes.
made sliding & steering the plate easier. also prevented over sliding.
lots of new ties Dave. looking good.
how many ties were they averaging per day?
I have no idea why these guys didn't have those plate hooks, many
times in the past they did use them, they for sure make things
easier for a hard job. That video was taken over 2 years ago
and my memory on how many ties they did is not clear but
believe it was around 5 to 600. Thank you Mr. Railroader for
taking in the video today.
@@ccrx6700 , be safe!
@@googoo-gjoob 👍😊
What are the metal grid plates on the ends of the ties for? Are they maybe to reduce splitting as the ties weather, or for something else? (I love your videos, btw; they’re just the sort of thing I love, to feed my geeky brain :-)
Dave, glad you are enjoying the home movies. You are correct grids to help reduce weather checking. They are pressed into ties hydraulic ram
@@ccrx6700 Wow, thanks: I think you win the award for the fastest reply ever to a post of mine on YT! I really do enjoy all your behind-the-scenes videos of railroading. (But I'm spending waaay too much time watching them, vs doing things I actually should be doing :-0)
@@DEtchells lol, wonder how much that award pays 🤔
@@ccrx6700 I think it's worth one standard "atto-boy". That's 10^-18 boys, meaning once you accumulate 10^18 of them, you get one "boy", meaning someone to help you with whatever you're doing :-)
Man what a grueling job that must have been back before those machines were developed.
Yep CTG, not much fun to pull ties out manually with a tie tong!
Really appreciate your paying us a visit today and taking in the
show my friend.
@@ccrx6700 Thanks for posting such interesting content! i appreciate the effort it takes to build and maintain rail infrastructure.
@@ctg6734 👍😊
While a lot of this is still hard work, its nothing compared to 100 years ago. I think of those men 100 years ago having to handle sticks of rail. Is today´s heaviest rail 132 lb or is some heavier?
automation sure is nice isn't it Bennie. We have mostly 132 and a bit
of 136, some RR's use up to 140
So the weight of the rail has increased a little since I last knew. Thanks for the info.
How often do you have to replace a tie?
Great question! On average bout 20 to 25 years depending on track bed conditions under them, obviously mud or fouled ballast under them with little drainage means ties wear out at a faster rate
Why do the ties seem to be spaced so far apart from each other? Are more ties to be inserted later?
Keith, we are only replacing the ties that we felt were bad, by a bad
tie I am meaning one with big splits on the end or ties that won't
hold a spike tight anymore. The ties in between are in pretty good
shape. Thank you for watching sir
I’ve been enjoying all of your videos. On the end of the ties, what’s the purpose of the metal plate on the end? Thanks!
That plate is pressed into place after creosote treatment, as far as i know it helps to prevent tie ends from splitting. Thanks for watching
@@ccrx6700 makes sense, thank you sir!
@@firstduemedia8706 your welcome
How do you get away with filming while Others are pulling & stuffing Ties and Stupidvising ? 😬👍
Ken, I'm cribbing out these ties, but I have to stop and wait for the
tie gang to get thru before I can continue, so I got a few minutes to be able
to do this
How do you get those specialized MOW rigs into your operation? How often do you need to rent/lease/contract for equipment not part of your roster?
Daniel, good question sir. Since we do not connect with another railroad then everything has to be trucked in. We usually get a couple of shut downs from miners vacation and underground long wall moves a couple of times a year, so for those short periods it's go like crazy try get as much done as possible. Other than that we do have a grapple truck come in for special jobs like unloading rail or replacing a days worth of ties. Appreciate your watching
🚂🚂🚂
Quick-ish question : how do they center the ties to the rails? By sight? The machine is set?
ties are 19 inches from base of rail to end of tie on the field side
of the rail. A guy goes in front of the TRIPP marking the ties with
chalk. Thanks so much for taking the time to tune in and check
out the video my friend.
@@ccrx6700 Thanks! I saw the videos out of sequence and I saw the process after I asked! Thanks again for those great up-close videos of railroading life!
@@ve2mrxB 👍😊
WHATS The Screen squares on The end of The ties??
They are pressed on the ends of the ties to help prevent checking
and splitting of the tie ends. Pretty neat and it works very well,
appreciate your watching Bobby Brooks
@@ccrx6700 thanks...The original question was possed by Hobo Shoestring (his and his channels name) who has 30 years traveling experiance...He noticed them from below on ties on a trestle or bridge where they stood out....
Почему в Америке все еще используют деревянные шпалы? В Росси в Европе, даже в Китае уже давно железобетонные ставят, они крепче, долговечнее и надежнее.
Please use Google translate so we can know what you are saying
Very interesting but hard to watch with the camera jumping around so much
I understand Barry, since then I have graduated to a GoPro, so
those things are better than the cell phone, forgive me for my
rookiness in making these please. Thanks for watching
Das sind ja Befestigungsschritte und Abläufe wie im 19 Jahrhundert. Schnellstens nach Österreich zu Plasser&Theurer nach Wien fahren und moderne Maschinen für das 21 Jahrhundert Einkaufen es EILT SEHR !!!
Very unprofessional at 350 on the video.