You really have to appreciate that this is pretty much a one-take, yet everything seems perfectly choreographed. All the things happen seemingly natural when the camera "just happens to be there", e.g. the spool change. Besides that, Printed Solid looks like a pretty responsible, well-run and "nice guys" company.
Things have certainly changed since I last visited (ERRF 2019 Printed Solid After Party), but still awesome to see (and now there's this nature thing outside the extrusion machines... previously was just a simple door)
Super interesting video! I keep watching to see if they introduce some more PLA variants, such as Tough PLA. I like the Jessie stuff for general 3D printing but for more challenging builds, I lean towards the Pro/Tough PLA variants.
Printed solid made my custom designed panels for my switchwire. The cost and turn around time was very impressive. I was worried that being "custom" came with the "custom" price tag however i was pleasantly wrong. I will be a repete customer.
Thats great thanks. I worked as fitter and Extrusion line operator for 16 years. from cutting line up to 3.2mm down to .11mm for paper making. one of our extruders for bigger filaments output was about 150kg/hr pellets for colour mixed in 45 gallon drums or dosed in throat of extruder. 60 spools down to 12 on big stuff, If I was still there I would be knocking PLA out on nights🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I like the jessie PLA, had good luck with print quality and and was pleasant to see they use cardboard spools. Unfortunately, any PLA that uses the indego 4043D doesn't work with with the products I make. But $20/spool for made in USA with 4043D resin is awesome seeing how everyone else sells theirs for $30+.
Hi David! I noticed the winding machine has changed from the previous setup, why was that? Was there any particular problem? The blue hose on this new setup blows anti static air?
fwiw the pellet making process fundamentally is a very similar process. just imagine instead of 1 string of plastic theres a dozen plus with a chopper/pelletizer after the water bath
Can someone explain why all manufacturers put a desiccant pack in the center of their spools even if their spools do not have any communication between the center and the filament (ie Bambu labs) ? Even those that have the tiny hole for the end of the filament wouldn’t the desiccant pack work better placed against the filament ?
Very interesting video. I'm surprised the filament doesn't need drying before the vacuum packaging. I must therefore presume that the water absorption in the water baths is negligible.
That’s suspended in the water and blown off so in theory the number should be zero. But maybe on a microscopic level there is an atom or two that survives.
I have always had ONE question about making filament..... most manufacturers seem to bring the filament through a water bath, and most people who have 3-d printers seem to spend a lot of time trying to DRY the filament out so it is somewhat counter-intuitive to take a material that ABSORBS moisture through a water bath.... SO HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THAT PROBLEM?
AFAIK every filament producing method used has a water bath and the short amount of time the filament is in water while it cools down from the semi molten state isnt long enough for the filament to actually absorb any of the water.
@@CanuckCreator THANKS I have always been curious about that, it does seem kind of counter-intuitive to put a material notorious for absorbing moisture in a water-bath (here is another irony, if you want to make a tough DRY steak, put it in a water bath before cooking it, it will be like shoe leather, and tasteless), but a MARINADE will make all the difference
@@CanuckCreator AFAIK, Proto-Pasta is basically the only one who uses air cooling instead of water. But I've heard the same, the filament spends so little time in the water baths that it doesn't really absorb any moisture and then, as David said, it runs through a couple blowers that blow off any moisture so it's dry by the time it's spooled.
get that guy at 11:40 something to hold that utility knife edge. I dont feel good buying from a company that dosnt care about their workers safty, even amazon doesn't allow handling bare utility blades! you guys ever heard of osha?
so heres the funny thing, that came up during a general chit chat after filming, they tried all kinds of different holders and blades types, and they always ended up going back to the standard blade like that, he said it works the best for him and has never caused an issue.
I’ve spent thousands of dollars on different holders and blades and tools and options and they still like a flat bade with some grip tape. OSHA inspector said he was fine. If there was a better solution I would get it for them in a heartbeat.
Box cutting blades aren't even sharp though. It's not like hes holding a razor blade. And osha doesn't regulate stuff like that. The machine shop I worked in had safety interlocks bypassed on all their lathes and I ended up losing part of my finger in 2020 because of it. Osha didn't care, they didn't fine the company.
@@jimvolkening2311 yep about a dozen different profiles of those but they cut too deep and hurt the workers hands I also tried a bunch of other things, sanders, routers, blade types and handles. Sanding pads work ok but they didn’t get to inside edges very well and required more work adding to worker fatigue.
You really have to appreciate that this is pretty much a one-take, yet everything seems perfectly choreographed. All the things happen seemingly natural when the camera "just happens to be there", e.g. the spool change.
Besides that, Printed Solid looks like a pretty responsible, well-run and "nice guys" company.
10:50 ACM is awesome. The first time I noticed it existed because it was used in the Ultimaker 2 3d-printer.
Love this! Thanks for taking us behind the scenes at Printed Solid, Nero!
AHHHH So glad to see your POV from this! Nice video sir! Great meeting and hanging out with you! YAY Cameo in the outro! Nice vid sir!
Cheers, was great to meet up and chat!
Jesse Brand is my go to every day filament. I also have had the pleasure of a few behind the scenes nickel tours there. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the interview with another great David. Glad I could meet both of you in person at ERRF
Never knew so much went into making these filaments, very impressive setup!
Things have certainly changed since I last visited (ERRF 2019 Printed Solid After Party), but still awesome to see (and now there's this nature thing outside the extrusion machines... previously was just a simple door)
Yeah we didn't even have the line running yet back then
@@dustindixon8572 yep, which is why it kept the drinks cool
Super interesting video! I keep watching to see if they introduce some more PLA variants, such as Tough PLA. I like the Jessie stuff for general 3D printing but for more challenging builds, I lean towards the Pro/Tough PLA variants.
Great video!!
Now Dave has to change all the camera locations 😂 awesome video thanks for hanging out
Printed solid made my custom designed panels for my switchwire. The cost and turn around time was very impressive. I was worried that being "custom" came with the "custom" price tag however i was pleasantly wrong. I will be a repete customer.
Excellent episode, thank you!!
Impressive operation.
Thank you for sharing with us. Very interesting.
Interesting company and when I took a look at their website noticed Prusa recently acquired them also.
Neat to get some insight on filament making! Seems like a great place to work.
Thats great thanks. I worked as fitter and Extrusion line operator for 16 years. from cutting line up to 3.2mm down to .11mm for paper making. one of our extruders for bigger filaments output was about 150kg/hr pellets for colour mixed in 45 gallon drums or dosed in throat of extruder. 60 spools down to 12 on big stuff, If I was still there I would be knocking PLA out on nights🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is so cool. Thanks for the video.
I like the jessie PLA, had good luck with print quality and and was pleasant to see they use cardboard spools. Unfortunately, any PLA that uses the indego 4043D doesn't work with with the products I make. But $20/spool for made in USA with 4043D resin is awesome seeing how everyone else sells theirs for $30+.
What about the 4043d makes it incompatible with your products?
That was an awesome video, nice work/
Thank you - This was very interesting. Keep up the awesome work and stay safe!
love the inside baseball!
Love me some Jessie PLA!
Hi David! I noticed the winding machine has changed from the previous setup, why was that? Was there any particular problem? The blue hose on this new setup blows anti static air?
Yes, we swapped out our spoolers for digital control last year so we get those nice neat windings.
I like these kinds of videos
Good content. Please do more like this in the future
is there any chance u can go and look how the filament pellets are made?..now we know how filament are made with pellets :)
fwiw the pellet making process fundamentally is a very similar process. just imagine instead of 1 string of plastic theres a dozen plus with a chopper/pelletizer after the water bath
Curious what is the average cost of a filament extrusion line?
Can someone explain why all manufacturers put a desiccant pack in the center of their spools even if their spools do not have any communication between the center and the filament (ie Bambu labs) ?
Even those that have the tiny hole for the end of the filament wouldn’t the desiccant pack work better placed against the filament ?
with regards to the ACM talk for panels, I wonder if you can get corrugated ACM, or instead of a solid inner maybe a hexagon inner or sometihng
It's used for enclosures so we use a solid core to maintain+/- 10 degrees
wow 100amps 3 phase per filament line thats wild
Hi David!
Yes buffer
Great video, content.
Are those Openbuilds CNCs?
Very interesting video. I'm surprised the filament doesn't need drying before the vacuum packaging. I must therefore presume that the water absorption in the water baths is negligible.
It is in contact with the water for only a fraction of a second and then blown dry so no moisture makes it thru.
Yea he mentioned like, 4kg a minute? That stuff is flyin'
The calcium deposits was interesting though, I wonder what miniscule amount makes it into your models.
That’s suspended in the water and blown off so in theory the number should be zero. But maybe on a microscopic level there is an atom or two that survives.
@@davidrandolph2724 good stuff, we use jessie pla all the time!
Nice!
I have always had ONE question about making filament..... most manufacturers seem to bring the filament through a water bath, and most people who have 3-d printers seem to spend a lot of time trying to DRY the filament out so it is somewhat counter-intuitive to take a material that ABSORBS moisture through a water bath.... SO HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THAT PROBLEM?
AFAIK every filament producing method used has a water bath and the short amount of time the filament is in water while it cools down from the semi molten state isnt long enough for the filament to actually absorb any of the water.
@@CanuckCreator THANKS I have always been curious about that, it does seem kind of counter-intuitive to put a material notorious for absorbing moisture in a water-bath (here is another irony, if you want to make a tough DRY steak, put it in a water bath before cooking it, it will be like shoe leather, and tasteless), but a MARINADE will make all the difference
@@CanuckCreator AFAIK, Proto-Pasta is basically the only one who uses air cooling instead of water. But I've heard the same, the filament spends so little time in the water baths that it doesn't really absorb any moisture and then, as David said, it runs through a couple blowers that blow off any moisture so it's dry by the time it's spooled.
3D4Makers also claims to use air cooling for their products.
hi david, bye david!!!
is that just a warehouse and plant or can you go there and buy stuff since they are just in DE.
they do have a room in the front for over the counter walk in sales yes.
Yes you can stop by and purchase you need to know what you want. And they will pick while you wait. Not a typical retail outlet.
Very cool. They are controlling their costs and keeping the crazy greenies happy at the same time😎
Boron or moron? Cause I have an ellegoo and need a moron kit, because I feel like a moron
I thought your name was Taylor lol
call me stupid but this good way to see ....else i never know thanks
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get that guy at 11:40 something to hold that utility knife edge. I dont feel good buying from a company that dosnt care about their workers safty, even amazon doesn't allow handling bare utility blades! you guys ever heard of osha?
so heres the funny thing, that came up during a general chit chat after filming, they tried all kinds of different holders and blades types, and they always ended up going back to the standard blade like that, he said it works the best for him and has never caused an issue.
I’ve spent thousands of dollars on different holders and blades and tools and options and they still like a flat bade with some grip tape. OSHA inspector said he was fine. If there was a better solution I would get it for them in a heartbeat.
Box cutting blades aren't even sharp though. It's not like hes holding a razor blade. And osha doesn't regulate stuff like that. The machine shop I worked in had safety interlocks bypassed on all their lathes and I ended up losing part of my finger in 2020 because of it. Osha didn't care, they didn't fine the company.
@@davidrandolph2724 have you tried a Machinist deburing tool ???
@@jimvolkening2311 yep about a dozen different profiles of those but they cut too deep and hurt the workers hands I also tried a bunch of other things, sanders, routers, blade types and handles. Sanding pads work ok but they didn’t get to inside edges very well and required more work adding to worker fatigue.