The difference between GG drone and LL wolves is that the wolves will only move to a another target once the first one is dead. On the other hand the wolves take some time to fly to the enemies while GG drones just teleport.
that probably means lappland will perform worse in IS with attack speed relics because of the travel time of her wolves crippling her actual dps but who knows? maybe they will travel faster with more attack speed but i doubt it's the case
@@kyarumomochi5146 It is M3. They mentioned in the previous video they used the M3 chip. Edit: If you mean the fact sometimes she has 3 wolves and other times 4 wolves, her skill gives her +2 wolves at any MR rank. She starts with 1 and after being deployed for a while she gains a second passively. So S3 takes her from 1-3 or 2-4.
Wait, i just realized GG drones are more suceptible to trash/another elite enemies with higher taunt if her drone explodes Laptop didnt have that *Bruh, she got that Constant DPS* Oh..and SHE CAN STILL ATTACK unlike GG S3
@@farellaksmann8659 Toggle skills would be a negative if we were going for lowstep, afk though is fine. Thorns and Typhon for example are staples in most AFK clears I tend to see and they both have skills that need to be activated twice to be effective.
I don't really see this as powercreep because for the most they seem to do the jobs equally, though I will say GG had a harder time with horde trash mobs, but Lappy did less to patriot. Also Lappys wolves have travel time and GG gets most of her damage from explosion procs. Best way I can think of it is they are both different types of knives, both cut very well and technically can use them for each other's rolls but for specific situations using the correct one will make it better.
@@ads3047 equally? Lappland literally has same damage to her against 90 res enemies, and gains higher utility on every metric GG wasnt even that insane to begin with, lappland is absolutely higher value
I imagine Lappy can still powercreep if they decide to give her a RES shred mod like they did to GG. Making her even more powerful. Will have to see what kind of mod she'll have
Yeah right "Just use both" like Silverash/Mlynar, Chen/Irene/Degen, Walter/Rosmon, Bagpipe/Ines/all other vanguards, Texas/Yalter/Phantom, GG/Lapter, Saria/Rice Woman, Zhou le/all other mushas, etc etc Damn, forget there are only 12 slots per squad and most of the time you'll need to prioritize one over another. Can't always just use both you know. Blatant powercreep is just that "blatant powercreep" idk why people so afraid to criticize/acknowledge that
@@signer0001 but I already "just use both" Typhon and Rosa, Logos and Eyja, Pozemka and Schwarz so there's only 1 slot left for one of them, oh no what do I do??? You do WANT only 1 of them especially in something like CC with reduce dp/limited slots, or when you can't field them together most of the time because the stage don't have enough good high tile for 2 casters, or when you need to field other OPs as well not just caster like medic/vanguard, or when I'm broke af so I have to choose 1 of them to roll, or when i'm broke af I don't have enough resources for both of them, or when IS RNG moment and you have to choose 1 caster first. Damn, that's a lot of situations where you need to prioritize one more than NO situation at all. This argument is stupid af.
eh unlike other cases, they really both are sidegrades, you can argue about lappy>gg, but it doesnt change the fact that they both excel in certain situations better than the other. "blatant powercreep" mf lappy did slightly worse than gg, yet lappy did better at rock enemy than gg
While I do think Lappy is stronger overall, I don't think this was a good showcase and it shows a lot of bias. Nearly every use of GG here (except 1:45) would have her perform better with S1 or S2. The main benefit of GG's S3 is regardless of where she is on the map, she can take out enemies who are close to the blue box, while Lappy's drones target the closest enemy to themselves, and none of these example showcase that aspect (correct me if I'm wrong on the Lappy part here). Also, at 1:08, why did you place GG 1 tile further forward than Lappy? Obviously she would get defeated sooner.
honestly am i the one thay finds the way the wolves track the target very satisfying? like the way it just circles around the area when there are no enemies is definitely something wolves would do lmao
So, Goldenglow was my 3rd 6 star ever, I have had her as my assistant ever since her l2d skin came out, she's my comfort character for when I don't wanst to figure out mechanics and I love her to bits, that said, she got powercrept hard and it's not even close, this is a real Ch'en vs Irene situation, so the way drone casters work, getting more drones means basically having another caster with the same skill stats and talent hitting the enemy, lappland has 1 more drone than GG and she doesn't stop attacking, so that's 5 casters vs 3 casters hitting the enemy, GG has a crit and some res ignore, but that's not enought to get ahead of 2 other 6 star caster drones hitting an enemy, with the way that res works, GG needs an enemy with ridiculous levels of res, the type you wouldn't pit her alone against, sorry to say, my girl got powercrept hard. TL;DR : Lappland alter's damage floor and celing are just straight up above goldenglow because drone caster trait is very broken and arts damage scales great with multi-hit.
You guys are forgetting Lapptop's S3 is over 50sp with 40s duration, while GG is 35sp with 30s duration. In one skill activation Lapp deals more damage but GG can spam hers more often. I'd say they're sidegrades to each other
@@xMYx507 it's a pretty bad skill, it makes her drones ONLY attack enemies which are not moving, if every enemy is moving they just sit there without doing anything
So basicly, lappland can do more single target dmg while gg wins in aoe. Lappy can focus down one enemy better because the drones stay until killed while gg is better for mapwide clearing since she always targets the enemies closest to a blue box. Both take completely different roles going by this
@@ebering4.039 Gg wins in aoe??? Lappland can target 4 enemies with each drone having aoe while GG aoe damage isnt consistent. Lappland absolutely wins in aoe.
I’d love to see the kit scaling What makes GG so great in my team is that alongside Sora (now Theresa s2, I have no skalter 😢) She does an insanely increased amount of damage, only possible with champs that “crit” like chongyue or Ray From what I’ve read seems like lappland does a stable and high ceiling of dps with own attack increase To summarise I think it’ll be unbuffed win for LL and a buffed win for GG If you can spare the slot for a dammage up support you should take GG otherwise take the one slot LL
@@farellaksmann8659 It only targets the enemy that doesn't move so not that practical I guess? It's a bit better version of Rosmontis s3, with infinite duration and range
So GG outperforms LL in when enemies have insane res like Patriot since her Res Shred will actually make a dent, but in almost every other case, even with enemies with decent amount of res, like from 50-60, LL still wins simply because she attacks more and faster than GG. The showcase with the two knights is probably the best showcase of LL's weakness. Her drone can't change their target until their target is dead, unlike GG's drone, that can explode to allow for retargeting. It can be a problem since the wolf can fly off to target a near unkillable idle enemy while LL is stuck, unable to deal with incoming mob due to her drone being gone. Still, in most case, LL is just better.
@@kyarumomochi5146 untrue. GG did slightly more damage to LL in this showcase. That being said, GG's performance is highly rng, so yeah, in most cases, just use LL unless you need GG's ability to retarget her drone.
Unironically the answer is to just use both. I know that's become a meme phrase but the Lappland vs GoldenGlow conversation feels too similiar to Texas vs Yato. You should use both to cover for the other operator when one doesn't have their skill up. I'm really looking forward to being able to sit back and clear out enemies with both Lappland and GoldenGlow before they even reach the defensive line.
I mean lappland covers GGs niche by a large margin, Texas and Yato is legitimate because fast redeploys are broken by nature already and they are good units. There is a reason it isnt "just use phantom and texas" when its "use yato and texas"
@@shadymann9468 Not really? They are comaprable so youd want to bring one over another. No need to have two units covering the same niche Elaborate on how it falls flat.
If the difference between Lappy and GG is a wide margin then the difference between Texas and Phantom is the Grand Canyon. GG is still clearly very strong as she has always been while Phantom was considered just okay even on release. While I would say that yes most people will likely replace GoldenGlow with Lappland, there is real immense value to having both in your squad at the same time.
@@ChuongDang185 The issue is GGs core job had been global damage wich Lappland covers her damage niche while providing metric tons of utility. GG will simply be more damage at that point wich is utterly repleceable But she does have res ignore for harder stuff and scales higher but its not them being good together but rather GGs niche of her own
GG has res ignore but Lapplands each drone already deals higher total damage than GG s3 Maybe not a direct powercreept but Lappland seems much stronger in value Oh ig she is m3?
@@kyarumomochi5146 the thing is S2 gives +3 heads and S3 +2, I don't know what they used here so I can't tell, but I doubt they'll compare without masteries
![[Arknights] Lappland BOSS](/img/1.gif)
The difference between GG drone and LL wolves is that the wolves will only move to a another target once the first one is dead. On the other hand the wolves take some time to fly to the enemies while GG drones just teleport.
in maria nearl, lappland wolves got stuck on the boss instead of going back to the elites
I think showcase isnt even m3 yet
@@kyarumomochi5146 i think he bought the m3 chip
that probably means lappland will perform worse in IS with attack speed relics because of the travel time of her wolves crippling her actual dps but who knows? maybe they will travel faster with more attack speed but i doubt it's the case
@@kyarumomochi5146 It is M3. They mentioned in the previous video they used the M3 chip.
Edit: If you mean the fact sometimes she has 3 wolves and other times 4 wolves, her skill gives her +2 wolves at any MR rank. She starts with 1 and after being deployed for a while she gains a second passively. So S3 takes her from 1-3 or 2-4.
Wait, i just realized
GG drones are more suceptible to trash/another elite enemies with higher taunt if her drone explodes
Laptop didnt have that
*Bruh, she got that Constant DPS*
Oh..and SHE CAN STILL ATTACK unlike GG S3
Laptop
Laptop💀
calling her laptop from now
Man I love laptop
Why lapptop 💀
im an s2 gg user... AFK knights rise up
Lappy S1 is AFK.
@@farellaksmann8659it has a passive effect but is still an active skill iirc
@@KommandantAegis your point is...? Are we starting to not count toggle skills like Mountain, Lin, and Narantuya as an AFKnights anymore?
@@KommandantAegis Still included in afknights
@@farellaksmann8659 Toggle skills would be a negative if we were going for lowstep, afk though is fine. Thorns and Typhon for example are staples in most AFK clears I tend to see and they both have skills that need to be activated twice to be effective.
i object, several of these situations are goldenglow s1 situatioms
Very true and real
i object, logos clears these frauds
That's very true
It's pretty much a side grade, I think GG just scales better with attack speed while Lappy scales better with attack boosts.
I love that we now call her Laptop. Doesnt matter who is stronger, the only thing that matters is who is cooler and Lappy has that in spades.
Laper
Idk, for me it always was "who is cuter" and gg still wins here
Laptop is referring to her being on top plattform as a ranged operator.
I don't know about "we" sir. That sounds yikes.
For some ppl cuteness>coolness
I don't really see this as powercreep because for the most they seem to do the jobs equally, though I will say GG had a harder time with horde trash mobs, but Lappy did less to patriot. Also Lappys wolves have travel time and GG gets most of her damage from explosion procs.
Best way I can think of it is they are both different types of knives, both cut very well and technically can use them for each other's rolls but for specific situations using the correct one will make it better.
Must be Namie
@@ads3047 equally? Lappland literally has same damage to her against 90 res enemies, and gains higher utility on every metric
GG wasnt even that insane to begin with, lappland is absolutely higher value
@@kyarumomochi5146i agree with you, the dmg difference on pariot is not that big while lappy has more ultility to offer
I imagine Lappy can still powercreep if they decide to give her a RES shred mod like they did to GG. Making her even more powerful. Will have to see what kind of mod she'll have
Yeah right "Just use both" like Silverash/Mlynar, Chen/Irene/Degen, Walter/Rosmon, Bagpipe/Ines/all other vanguards, Texas/Yalter/Phantom, GG/Lapter, Saria/Rice Woman, Zhou le/all other mushas, etc etc
Damn, forget there are only 12 slots per squad and most of the time you'll need to prioritize one over another. Can't always just use both you know. Blatant powercreep is just that "blatant powercreep" idk why people so afraid to criticize/acknowledge that
But you CAN have both.
There's literally NO situation where you DONT want two global range casters.
@@schmushschroom3873 What in the world???
@@signer0001 Lappland covers it perfectly, why have another units thats worse in every metric for the same job???
@@signer0001 but I already "just use both" Typhon and Rosa, Logos and Eyja, Pozemka and Schwarz so there's only 1 slot left for one of them, oh no what do I do???
You do WANT only 1 of them especially in something like CC with reduce dp/limited slots, or when you can't field them together most of the time because the stage don't have enough good high tile for 2 casters, or when you need to field other OPs as well not just caster like medic/vanguard, or when I'm broke af so I have to choose 1 of them to roll, or when i'm broke af I don't have enough resources for both of them, or when IS RNG moment and you have to choose 1 caster first.
Damn, that's a lot of situations where you need to prioritize one more than NO situation at all. This argument is stupid af.
eh unlike other cases, they really both are sidegrades, you can argue about lappy>gg, but it doesnt change the fact that they both excel in certain situations better than the other. "blatant powercreep" mf lappy did slightly worse than gg, yet lappy did better at rock enemy than gg
Seeing Patriot get frightened is just something else
While I do think Lappy is stronger overall, I don't think this was a good showcase and it shows a lot of bias.
Nearly every use of GG here (except 1:45) would have her perform better with S1 or S2. The main benefit of GG's S3 is regardless of where she is on the map, she can take out enemies who are close to the blue box, while Lappy's drones target the closest enemy to themselves, and none of these example showcase that aspect (correct me if I'm wrong on the Lappy part here).
Also, at 1:08, why did you place GG 1 tile further forward than Lappy? Obviously she would get defeated sooner.
honestly am i the one thay finds the way the wolves track the target very satisfying? like the way it just circles around the area when there are no enemies is definitely something wolves would do lmao
So, Goldenglow was my 3rd 6 star ever, I have had her as my assistant ever since her l2d skin came out, she's my comfort character for when I don't wanst to figure out mechanics and I love her to bits, that said, she got powercrept hard and it's not even close, this is a real Ch'en vs Irene situation, so the way drone casters work, getting more drones means basically having another caster with the same skill stats and talent hitting the enemy, lappland has 1 more drone than GG and she doesn't stop attacking, so that's 5 casters vs 3 casters hitting the enemy, GG has a crit and some res ignore, but that's not enought to get ahead of 2 other 6 star caster drones hitting an enemy, with the way that res works, GG needs an enemy with ridiculous levels of res, the type you wouldn't pit her alone against, sorry to say, my girl got powercrept hard.
TL;DR : Lappland alter's damage floor and celing are just straight up above goldenglow because drone caster trait is very broken and arts damage scales great with multi-hit.
You guys are forgetting Lapptop's S3 is over 50sp with 40s duration, while GG is 35sp with 30s duration. In one skill activation Lapp deals more damage but GG can spam hers more often. I'd say they're sidegrades to each other
18 RES ignore keeping GG on life support
Strongest caster of all time vs strongest caster of today
Pretty clear powercreep showcase if it took patriot (90 res) to make both of them equal in total damage
What a mess they can do together?!
Wait til they give Lappy a RES ignore mod. Then it'll really be over for yo girl GG
logos
Conclusion use both lappi alter and goldenglow... that's what I'm gonna do
Do you even have enough slot left in your squad
@amb6676 I can compromise 😎😎😎
No AFK skill = 0/10
Her skill 1 is AFK tho lmao. Hell, it's a global AFK skill for enemies that stands in place or blocked
Lappland's AFK is S1 if I'm correct, it prioritizes unmoving enemies in global range.
@@xMYx507 it's a pretty bad skill, it makes her drones ONLY attack enemies which are not moving, if every enemy is moving they just sit there without doing anything
@@hollyleaf3941 if you stupid, maybe. If you use your brain, you realize blocked enemies don't move.
@@hollyleaf3941 it hits ranged enemies when they stop to shoot, enemies that are stunned, enemies that are being blocked etc.
So basicly, lappland can do more single target dmg while gg wins in aoe.
Lappy can focus down one enemy better because the drones stay until killed while gg is better for mapwide clearing since she always targets the enemies closest to a blue box.
Both take completely different roles going by this
@@ebering4.039 Gg wins in aoe???
Lappland can target 4 enemies with each drone having aoe while GG aoe damage isnt consistent. Lappland absolutely wins in aoe.
Don’t make me choose
My only question is how ASPD affects Lapp2's wolves.
I’d love to see the kit scaling
What makes GG so great in my team is that alongside Sora (now Theresa s2, I have no skalter 😢)
She does an insanely increased amount of damage, only possible with champs that “crit” like chongyue or Ray
From what I’ve read seems like lappland does a stable and high ceiling of dps with own attack increase
To summarise
I think it’ll be unbuffed win for LL and a buffed win for GG
If you can spare the slot for a dammage up support you should take GG otherwise take the one slot LL
to me looks like GG still have it uses like really highres ST and consistent targeting, but laptop definitely have more feature and general use case
I mean, GG is still an AFKnight so Laptop really didn't powercrept her. 😏
Lappy S1 is a global AFk skill
@@farellaksmann8659
It only targets the enemy that doesn't move so not that practical I guess?
It's a bit better version of Rosmontis s3, with infinite duration and range
Okay maybe I want em papipi
So GG outperforms LL in when enemies have insane res like Patriot since her Res Shred will actually make a dent, but in almost every other case, even with enemies with decent amount of res, like from 50-60, LL still wins simply because she attacks more and faster than GG.
The showcase with the two knights is probably the best showcase of LL's weakness. Her drone can't change their target until their target is dead, unlike GG's drone, that can explode to allow for retargeting. It can be a problem since the wolf can fly off to target a near unkillable idle enemy while LL is stuck, unable to deal with incoming mob due to her drone being gone.
Still, in most case, LL is just better.
@@redbone9553 except Lappland literally has same performance to GG solo against patriot...
@@kyarumomochi5146 untrue. GG did slightly more damage to LL in this showcase. That being said, GG's performance is highly rng, so yeah, in most cases, just use LL unless you need GG's ability to retarget her drone.
All GLOBAL SKILL = PLZ XD
Unironically the answer is to just use both. I know that's become a meme phrase but the Lappland vs GoldenGlow conversation feels too similiar to Texas vs Yato. You should use both to cover for the other operator when one doesn't have their skill up. I'm really looking forward to being able to sit back and clear out enemies with both Lappland and GoldenGlow before they even reach the defensive line.
I mean lappland covers GGs niche by a large margin, Texas and Yato is legitimate because fast redeploys are broken by nature already and they are good units. There is a reason it isnt "just use phantom and texas" when its "use yato and texas"
@@kyarumomochi5146 that argument falls flat when they're actually comparable units
@@shadymann9468 Not really? They are comaprable so youd want to bring one over another. No need to have two units covering the same niche
Elaborate on how it falls flat.
If the difference between Lappy and GG is a wide margin then the difference between Texas and Phantom is the Grand Canyon. GG is still clearly very strong as she has always been while Phantom was considered just okay even on release. While I would say that yes most people will likely replace GoldenGlow with Lappland, there is real immense value to having both in your squad at the same time.
@@ChuongDang185 The issue is GGs core job had been global damage wich Lappland covers her damage niche while providing metric tons of utility. GG will simply be more damage at that point wich is utterly repleceable
But she does have res ignore for harder stuff and scales higher but its not them being good together but rather GGs niche of her own
Lappy wolf dmg is a fixed interval? I think I still gonna use GG more but who knows
Another thing is that Lapp actually keeps her auto on global skill, which GG does not.
I think what makes GG shine is her S2 no?
it's funny seeing lappland vs patriot. its like adc vs fed top laner in league.
I don't really like Laptop skill because there's no afk skill on her🗿
Ok now compare them in IS with 200 ASPD, spoiler: Lapp alter doesn't even have a chance
Weird comment ngl
Sukuna vs gojo meme?
just use both
GGWP for GG
i feel gg scale aspd are better:v
gg.. firefly fell off quick
Why not both ??
2 ops with powerful global is broken
@@arabbitwhocanuseinternet9657 Because lappland already covers GG niche and obliterates her in dmg maybe...
One thing for sure,
don't compare her to Wiš'adel, that's it
GG has res ignore but Lapplands each drone already deals higher total damage than GG s3
Maybe not a direct powercreept but Lappland seems much stronger in value
Oh ig she is m3?
I saw 4 heads, isn't that M3 effect?
@sorashizen5130 Well im not sure if its m3 or not ig but the drone count was tied to masteries? That wasnt the case with GG tough
@@kyarumomochi5146 the thing is S2 gives +3 heads and S3 +2, I don't know what they used here so I can't tell, but I doubt they'll compare without masteries
Patriot can be silenced?
People who likes GG can just play GG the way they like it
But please don't be mad about the powercreep if y'all didn't care about the meta
Foxleaf propaganda when?
Welp, i guess gg is dead to people now.
I will still love her anyway.
gg is ded lol
gg