i am going to pull for her and hoping to get her e1, i have 268 pulls and counting for her so far, i will use her with my e1 Firefly, my Harmony Trailblazer (with Ruan Mei's signature LC) and my Hunt March (i need my Ruan Mei on my DoT team), plus Lingsha would make for a good "Shifu" for march due to all the attacks!
her value as a sustain is low and instead its her value as a future investment for a meta comp is where you have to gauge your interest in her. what if we'll get a comp that centered around having summons as the activation condition for its gimmick like with fua team then she'll be the BIS as the sustainer of such team. this actually tied to how powercreep is handled in this game, before 2.0 they mostly release hypercarries that used the same support and playstyle while releasing pcs for a niche comp(dps, fua) that later get more support and dps(black swan for dots, aven, robin for fua) and now we're also in the same phase where we got superbreak and more fua characters so the upcoming meta in 3.0 won't be much different, there will be a main theme where a meta will release its character 2-4 times and side meta characters that will support the old meta much like how it is now.
Lingsha does not have a better cleanse than huo huo. Reasoning being that more cleanse ≠ better cleanse. Lingsha technically cleanses more times at once and can do it back to back if timed with her auto heal. However, it's tied to fuyuan. The problem here is that you can only access this cleanse on fuyuans turn, auto heal or ult. This means you can easily have a character be cc'd and not be able to cleanse if lingshas ult isn't up or her auto is on cooldown or simply no one took enough damage to activate it. You then have to wait for fuyuans turn which could be after their turn, losing a turn to cc. Huo huo is better because her cleanse is very consistent and easy to activate. It will always happen on their turn and all you need to do is have huo huos skill up. You will never lose a turn to cc with huo huo, as it will always cleanse them whenever they act even if they haven't taken alot of damage or huo huo doesn't have her ult up. That's when we're talking about low damage, in high damage it gets better. When taking alot of damage, auto heal fuyuan can only happen once every 2 turns. This means it may just activate before the cc even gets applied and can't be activated again. Simultaneously lingsha may have to hold ult (and not get cc'd herself) to make sure she can get the cleanse in time to avoid losing a turn, which may be detrimental if she holds it too long and you take too much damage leading to someone dying. In the same situation again huo huo has no such issues. While in high damage scenarios, any ult or turn from any other character will immediately heal any other character below 50% hp triggering the cleanse. This means you only need one other ult up in the whole team (made easier with huo huo energy regen) in order to cleanse another characters cc and it can be done at any time. Since much of huo huo healing is instant and not tied to a 90 spd summon or ult, there is little risk of dying when literally any character taking a turn or using an ult can heal the rest of the team and themselves. There is no cooldown, it again only needs huo huo skill to be up and the previous situation still applies where simply taking a turn will still trigger the cleanse, not losing a turn. Huo huo is truly just unmatched in cleanse purely because of how it functions and how her healing is activated. It guarantees a cleanse exactly when you need it and is much more controllable with no built in cooldowns like luocha or lingsha. Overall huo huo is just a better sustainer no question, but specifically in this regard she is still the best cleanser and beats out lingsha in terms of actual functionality rather than simple numbers, a very important factor that often times goes over looked.
Overall she is simply worse than huo huo, aventurine and gallagher as she just doesn't do anything better than these other characters other than her toughness reduction sometimes. She has less attacks than aventurine and about the same as gallagher, she has worse cleanse than huo huo without the energy utility. She can't use quid pro quo as well as gallagher. She can't generate skill points as well as gallagher or aventurine. She simply isn't the best in so many teams and is out performed in the most simple of ways. Her only upside is being better at healing than gallagher realistically while cleansing, but again in break teams this matter so much less as you take so much less damage and aren't cc'd very often when the enemy can barely attack. So long as gallagher or firefly get targeted (an over 50% chance BTW) the cc just won't even work. She's not bad but she's a very weak upgrade compared to these units who do her job slightly worse in some areas and much better in others, of which those other areas end up being much more important like skill point generation. Good character if you want her and don't have huo huo or aventurine, a good second gallagher without the skill points or QPQ synergy but that's it. Not worth pulling if you care about functionality more than simply her as a character or her gameplay. Highly replaceable and like a jack of all trades master of none.
@@EyesDontCry sry but you are coping bcs she is better then gallagher like she does better healing and cleasing then him also her dmg is better then all sustain even aven by a lot. only drawback is that she is sp neutral or negative.
@@karantej6702 you just repeated what I said, I already explained why that's irrelevant if you read it. Comparatively her damage is actually worse than gallagher in single target and only 5% better in 3 target scenarios. The only significant increase is in 5 target fights where it jumps up to 50% increase. So unless you are specifically looking to use superbreak in pure fiction, I don't see the reason to pick her up. Break teams don't struggle with healing or CC much at all because enemies are always broken so you can literally just skip their turns reducing damage and not letting them use CC. And again in a firefly team so long as it targets firefly or gallagher it's unlikely to even hit them due to high effect res. I her best teams she's sometimes better than gallagher, but usually by a small margin and just a downgrade in almost every other team compared to someone else. Until they introduce summon supports that can make her unique summon more useful to the team in other ways, she's simply just a good sustainer who's doing gallaghers job on break teams with none of the other benefits he provides, and being a second rate aventurine in terms follow up teams and a second rate huo huo in terms of cleansing without the energy regen/Atk buff.
@@EyesDontCry cope hard also huo huo is famous not for her sustain more for buffs and cleasing but lingsha does better sustain and also she does broken dmg.
iam waiting and watching because jiaoqiu and Lingsha will be futur proof, i have already plan on pulling her for futur summons meta.🤣it make me laugh because it is like when topaz fist come and people start shiting on her and now she still meta; jiaoqiu and lingsha in my opinion will have the same traitment.
i am on the edge man her design is good i need a sustain for acheron team i am thinking of givinge gallager to her after i get lingsha but she is not looking that strong that summon which gets advanced forward from skill also go to waste as when she ult the summon go back it should have been an extra turn and fua also sometimes dont regenerate energy and sometimes it dose idk what is with that. i mean in a 2t ult setup that skill advancing summon is a waste she pops ult faster than summon cant take even 2 turns like summon is at 20 action you pop ult summon goes back to 80 after the advance which suk
Yeah I thought that was wierd too... But I'm still hopeful... Let her release or let's see what other Big CCs say about her after testing in creator experience server
Erm...about pulling, I kinda went to upgrade my E0 Robin to E1 for my E0S1 Acheron team...but the results are lackluster. From MOC Aventurine in 2-3 cycles at E0, to 4 cycles at E1, and I have no idea why (with an E0S0 Aventurine and an E0S1 JQ no less). Now I got to decide. E2 Acheron? Or E2 Firefly?
Nah, I've a guaranteed on both unit nd lc banner but I'm still not pulling her while pre farming fr all her traces. I'm good with my e5 galla fr my e1s1 firefly. I'm gonna wait fr a better break support instead. If she turn out to b much better than galla then her rerun it is
Same that's my Plan, since Gallagher is kinda way too fcking Good.. like. she better be like double damage to replace him lol. if she's like 10-20% dmg increase, I don't think she's worth it. Since I 0 Cycle and at most 3* the content eitherway. it's like wasting currency for negligible change.
Nope, Aventurine is like x2 better than her, Faster Follow up attacks, Teamwide resistance, Sp friendly and Crit Dmg buff. So nope. she's like twice worse than Aventurine. And theoretically only good on break teams, and won't be replacing Huohuo cuz AOE energy gain is kinda busted in getting shorter Cycles. Verdict: IF you have E6 Gallagher, you're wasting resources on her, Otherwise if you like her as a character, doesn't matter if she has the worse kit you'd still pull for her.
That depends, do you want to fully focus on your follow up attack team... Or want a better sustain for your break team... Also do you have an E1 firefly... In terms of pure value... Aventurine is way better... But I would recommend waiting a few days... Let the players and other content creators test her and share their opinions
Player said the same at HuoHuo release, but about Lynx E6 "she is enough", but after the new enemies and challenges of new patches... Think we'll.before skip, Aventurine can take about 2 or maybe 3 months to rerun, unless they put the 3 chars rerun banner as permanent
@@MrBumcleaver Well who said that? She literally was praised by multiple CC's? like even THeory Crafters lol. which backdoor alley guy said to you about that? HuoHuo is one of the best healers since she has AOE energy regen and scaling at % max energy instead of a flat number. HuoHuo is only going to be nerfed if we get a unit that can do what she does better, and we don't have that. and also Lynx E6 is very good still, Her entire Kit for Yunli / Clara / Blade is still 100% better than any other sustains. Cuz she's the only Taunt Healer. So yes. She is still fcking good. Unless you don't play the 3 units. She's only going to be powercrept if we get a new healer that can do focused taunt and heal and remove debuff like her. The thing here is, Lingsha isn't as good as Aventurine for follow ups (Crit dmg buff and SP positive) , Lingsha won't replace Huohuo (AOE Energy regen), Lingsha won't replace Fu Xuan (crit rate buff and damage redistribution). She will powercreep Gallagher since she's basically better than him but Gallagher is extremely SP positive, while she's very SP negative as a unit.
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i am going to pull for her and hoping to get her e1, i have 268 pulls and counting for her so far, i will use her with my e1 Firefly, my Harmony Trailblazer (with Ruan Mei's signature LC) and my Hunt March (i need my Ruan Mei on my DoT team), plus Lingsha would make for a good "Shifu" for march due to all the attacks!
her value as a sustain is low and instead its her value as a future investment for a meta comp is where you have to gauge your interest in her. what if we'll get a comp that centered around having summons as the activation condition for its gimmick like with fua team then she'll be the BIS as the sustainer of such team. this actually tied to how powercreep is handled in this game, before 2.0 they mostly release hypercarries that used the same support and playstyle while releasing pcs for a niche comp(dps, fua) that later get more support and dps(black swan for dots, aven, robin for fua) and now we're also in the same phase where we got superbreak and more fua characters so the upcoming meta in 3.0 won't be much different, there will be a main theme where a meta will release its character 2-4 times and side meta characters that will support the old meta much like how it is now.
Lingsha does not have a better cleanse than huo huo.
Reasoning being that more cleanse ≠ better cleanse. Lingsha technically cleanses more times at once and can do it back to back if timed with her auto heal. However, it's tied to fuyuan. The problem here is that you can only access this cleanse on fuyuans turn, auto heal or ult.
This means you can easily have a character be cc'd and not be able to cleanse if lingshas ult isn't up or her auto is on cooldown or simply no one took enough damage to activate it. You then have to wait for fuyuans turn which could be after their turn, losing a turn to cc.
Huo huo is better because her cleanse is very consistent and easy to activate. It will always happen on their turn and all you need to do is have huo huos skill up. You will never lose a turn to cc with huo huo, as it will always cleanse them whenever they act even if they haven't taken alot of damage or huo huo doesn't have her ult up.
That's when we're talking about low damage, in high damage it gets better. When taking alot of damage, auto heal fuyuan can only happen once every 2 turns. This means it may just activate before the cc even gets applied and can't be activated again. Simultaneously lingsha may have to hold ult (and not get cc'd herself) to make sure she can get the cleanse in time to avoid losing a turn, which may be detrimental if she holds it too long and you take too much damage leading to someone dying.
In the same situation again huo huo has no such issues. While in high damage scenarios, any ult or turn from any other character will immediately heal any other character below 50% hp triggering the cleanse. This means you only need one other ult up in the whole team (made easier with huo huo energy regen) in order to cleanse another characters cc and it can be done at any time. Since much of huo huo healing is instant and not tied to a 90 spd summon or ult, there is little risk of dying when literally any character taking a turn or using an ult can heal the rest of the team and themselves. There is no cooldown, it again only needs huo huo skill to be up and the previous situation still applies where simply taking a turn will still trigger the cleanse, not losing a turn.
Huo huo is truly just unmatched in cleanse purely because of how it functions and how her healing is activated. It guarantees a cleanse exactly when you need it and is much more controllable with no built in cooldowns like luocha or lingsha.
Overall huo huo is just a better sustainer no question, but specifically in this regard she is still the best cleanser and beats out lingsha in terms of actual functionality rather than simple numbers, a very important factor that often times goes over looked.
Overall she is simply worse than huo huo, aventurine and gallagher as she just doesn't do anything better than these other characters other than her toughness reduction sometimes.
She has less attacks than aventurine and about the same as gallagher, she has worse cleanse than huo huo without the energy utility. She can't use quid pro quo as well as gallagher. She can't generate skill points as well as gallagher or aventurine.
She simply isn't the best in so many teams and is out performed in the most simple of ways. Her only upside is being better at healing than gallagher realistically while cleansing, but again in break teams this matter so much less as you take so much less damage and aren't cc'd very often when the enemy can barely attack. So long as gallagher or firefly get targeted (an over 50% chance BTW) the cc just won't even work.
She's not bad but she's a very weak upgrade compared to these units who do her job slightly worse in some areas and much better in others, of which those other areas end up being much more important like skill point generation.
Good character if you want her and don't have huo huo or aventurine, a good second gallagher without the skill points or QPQ synergy but that's it. Not worth pulling if you care about functionality more than simply her as a character or her gameplay. Highly replaceable and like a jack of all trades master of none.
Nice thesis you have here 😅
@@EyesDontCry sry but you are coping bcs she is better then gallagher like she does better healing and cleasing then him also her dmg is better then all sustain even aven by a lot. only drawback is that she is sp neutral or negative.
@@karantej6702 you just repeated what I said, I already explained why that's irrelevant if you read it.
Comparatively her damage is actually worse than gallagher in single target and only 5% better in 3 target scenarios. The only significant increase is in 5 target fights where it jumps up to 50% increase.
So unless you are specifically looking to use superbreak in pure fiction, I don't see the reason to pick her up. Break teams don't struggle with healing or CC much at all because enemies are always broken so you can literally just skip their turns reducing damage and not letting them use CC. And again in a firefly team so long as it targets firefly or gallagher it's unlikely to even hit them due to high effect res.
I her best teams she's sometimes better than gallagher, but usually by a small margin and just a downgrade in almost every other team compared to someone else.
Until they introduce summon supports that can make her unique summon more useful to the team in other ways, she's simply just a good sustainer who's doing gallaghers job on break teams with none of the other benefits he provides, and being a second rate aventurine in terms follow up teams and a second rate huo huo in terms of cleansing without the energy regen/Atk buff.
@@EyesDontCry cope hard also huo huo is famous not for her sustain more for buffs and cleasing but lingsha does better sustain and also she does broken dmg.
my team is enough to clear any content to get stella jades, i will go for her because she's my type
Hell yeah 👍
iam waiting and watching because jiaoqiu and Lingsha will be futur proof, i have already plan on pulling her for futur summons meta.🤣it make me laugh because it is like when topaz fist come and people start shiting on her and now she still meta; jiaoqiu and lingsha in my opinion will have the same traitment.
Priority question: E2 (Buffs BE in all, and receive some back from HMC) or LC?
i am on the edge man her design is good i need a sustain for acheron team i am thinking of givinge gallager to her after i get lingsha but she is not looking that strong that summon which gets advanced forward from skill also go to waste as when she ult the summon go back it should have been an extra turn and fua also sometimes dont regenerate energy and sometimes it dose idk what is with that. i mean in a 2t ult setup that skill advancing summon is a waste she pops ult faster than summon cant take even 2 turns like summon is at 20 action you pop ult summon goes back to 80 after the advance which suk
Yeah I thought that was wierd too... But I'm still hopeful... Let her release or let's see what other Big CCs say about her after testing in creator experience server
She cute = pull
Same
Erm...about pulling, I kinda went to upgrade my E0 Robin to E1 for my E0S1 Acheron team...but the results are lackluster. From MOC Aventurine in 2-3 cycles at E0, to 4 cycles at E1, and I have no idea why (with an E0S0 Aventurine and an E0S1 JQ no less).
Now I got to decide. E2 Acheron? Or E2 Firefly?
Firefly definitely E1, Acheron E1 first maybe? ofc E2 Acheron is stronger later on when you have Sparkle
Is it even worth pulling for another sustain on my account when I already have a fully built E6 Gallagher, Fu Xuan, Aventurine and Huohuo?
Absolutely not. Most accounts only need 2 high quality sustains and you are set. Unless you really like her, I would save
Absolutely not.... Especially if you have both e6 Gallagher and aventurine.... You've got everything covered
Wonderful, thanks to both of you
Probably not. Also man do.i wish I was you. I have aventurine but still need a 5star sustain for my second teams
NO
She better be better than gallagher like wtf are we talking about
my sorry ass who need two gallagher cuz his best dealer is acheron and firefly: finally gallagher 2
I'm getting her no matter wut, gonna replace my lynx and natasha
Nah, I've a guaranteed on both unit nd lc banner but I'm still not pulling her while pre farming fr all her traces. I'm good with my e5 galla fr my e1s1 firefly. I'm gonna wait fr a better break support instead. If she turn out to b much better than galla then her rerun it is
Same that's my Plan, since Gallagher is kinda way too fcking Good.. like. she better be like double damage to replace him lol. if she's like 10-20% dmg increase, I don't think she's worth it. Since I 0 Cycle and at most 3* the content eitherway.
it's like wasting currency for negligible change.
I have houhou as the sustainer for my feixiao team. Is she worth the pull? Or wait for adventurine
For feixiao specifically, no. Especially with aventurine most likely being rerun next patch
Nope, Aventurine is like x2 better than her, Faster Follow up attacks, Teamwide resistance, Sp friendly and Crit Dmg buff. So nope. she's like twice worse than Aventurine.
And theoretically only good on break teams, and won't be replacing Huohuo cuz AOE energy gain is kinda busted in getting shorter Cycles.
Verdict: IF you have E6 Gallagher, you're wasting resources on her, Otherwise if you like her as a character, doesn't matter if she has the worse kit you'd still pull for her.
I have feixiao and e6 march build should i pull for topaz?
Do you have adventurine?
Just to improve your follow up attack teams, I think you should... March is great but not as good as topaz...
No you don't
Do you have Robin? I’m assuming you do but if not, she’s your biggest priority for Feixiao, arguably even higher than Feixiao herself.
@@apleb7605 I have her I'm just confused about topaz
i have e6 gallagher and i use ratio follow up atk team. should i get linghsa or save for aventurine
That depends, do you want to fully focus on your follow up attack team... Or want a better sustain for your break team... Also do you have an E1 firefly... In terms of pure value... Aventurine is way better... But I would recommend waiting a few days... Let the players and other content creators test her and share their opinions
@@ShoXpress i do have a e1 firefly
Aventurine, we have a 4 star version of lingsha while Aventurine doesn't have one
For me is easy skip. I have gallagher e6 and i love it. I preffer e1 firefly in her rerun or e1 aventurine
Player said the same at HuoHuo release, but about Lynx E6 "she is enough", but after the new enemies and challenges of new patches... Think we'll.before skip, Aventurine can take about 2 or maybe 3 months to rerun, unless they put the 3 chars rerun banner as permanent
@@MrBumcleaver i already have aventurine. Y search only her e1
@@MrBumcleaver Well who said that? She literally was praised by multiple CC's? like even THeory Crafters lol. which backdoor alley guy said to you about that? HuoHuo is one of the best healers since she has AOE energy regen and scaling at % max energy instead of a flat number. HuoHuo is only going to be nerfed if we get a unit that can do what she does better, and we don't have that.
and also Lynx E6 is very good still, Her entire Kit for Yunli / Clara / Blade is still 100% better than any other sustains. Cuz she's the only Taunt Healer. So yes. She is still fcking good. Unless you don't play the 3 units. She's only going to be powercrept if we get a new healer that can do focused taunt and heal and remove debuff like her.
The thing here is, Lingsha isn't as good as Aventurine for follow ups (Crit dmg buff and SP positive) , Lingsha won't replace Huohuo (AOE Energy regen), Lingsha won't replace Fu Xuan (crit rate buff and damage redistribution). She will powercreep Gallagher since she's basically better than him but Gallagher is extremely SP positive, while she's very SP negative as a unit.
Idk, if you have E6 Gallagher, she's not better than him..unless you get her E1.
Well players said the same about black swan being just 5 star sampo... But they were wrong
Lingsha is a must pull to complete caelus' harem 😂
Trueeeeeee.... Ah I should've mentioned that point in the video...