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ithium batteries can explode rather than simply burn when certain conditions cause rapid and uncontrolled reactions within the battery, leading to a pressure buildup. Here are the key conditions that may cause an explosion: 1. Overcharging: Explanation: Overcharging occurs when a lithium battery is charged beyond its voltage limit. Most lithium-ion batteries operate safely within a 4.2V per cell limit, but overcharging can lead to: Lithium plating: Formation of lithium metal on the anode. Thermal runaway: Excess heat generated can cause the electrolyte to vaporize, leading to an explosion. Outcome: This heat can rupture the cell's casing, resulting in a release of flammable gases that ignite or explode under pressure. so this method would most like be caused by discharging the one battery into the other and overstacking charge very fast.
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To make a Li battery explode, you need to be able to short the battery or you need to overcharge it very quickly. That requires physical access to the charging circuits of the battery. Im much more likely to lean to explosives being placed in comm devices that Hezzbolah were known to use.
Add to it that pagers are pretty simple devices so all you need is to send a paging pattern to that pager. Lets say that you get 4 pagings within a minute and then your modified battery recognizes it and goes off. No need to go deep into your pager. For phones and cars there's more value in using them to track your whereabouts and sift out your data to know when and where you are going to be and strike there - or throw in a coordinated strike towards all your contacts at the same time. Inserting false information can also be very effective. On a pager you can insert false info too, but it's not always that effective.
Batteries dont explode, they combust or burn. The pagers were delivered with explosives in them. I have experience with military explosives, I was a muntions systems tech in the US Air Force.
Yeah it seems uninformed to me that we are discussing hacking in the context of this event. Even if a signal was used to initiate an explosion, it was probably built to receive that signal and act as the pagers did, so it isn't exactly hacking
@@absiddique139 None of them was blown up by cyber attack. Vast majority of those cases were cases of battery melt down or combustion, and in extremely rare cases of explosion, victim had minor burns and scratches, nothing nowhere near of explosion which would end grown man's life.
@matt_milack You clearly didn't comprehend what was said in the video... He is saying that a battery attack could happen, whether this was a battery hack, or supply chain tampering. His point is, in the future, that's going to be a major concern...
@@LifesAScript You clearly didn't comprehend what was said in my comment. I'm not saying that battery attack could not happen, I'm saying that without previously charging pager/phone/car with the explosive, with you battery attack you can melt down battery or make battery burn, and you, most definitely, can't produce an explosion which could kill grown up man.
The pagers don't even have Li batteries, either way Li batteries burn they don't explode. It was 100% explosives, how the explosive was triggered is the question. Scooters exploding are from sealed compartments and the gas from the battery expanding.
this video is great love the channel and OTW. but maybe best to take it down and re-upload, look at timestamp 27:57, did we just expose the face of OTW?
There is a little bit of bs here. Yes lithium batteries can burn. They burn hot and fast this can cause the stuff that surround to burn violently as well. They don't explode.
they do ,, but yes explosion is not the correct word,, the more suitable term is "pop".. li-on do pop at the end of combustion cycle. It's not fatal though.
Ya...C4...thru an international Aeroport! Hmmmm....they have dogs with excellent smell and training for specific substances... but then there are other electronic devices that'll pick up vapor, etc. Unless they "TIGHTLY ", embedded C4 or something similar within A battery pack or an I.C.. I'll lean on a Lithium cell theory that is tightly bounded together or a better way of putting it; place a firecracker on the "open" palm of your hand and light it -figuratively speaking! Now, clench the firecracker in the grip of your hand....which of the 2 will do more damage!?😮 Remember, someone designed these products to have 2 major purposes!
Lebanese here. I can tell you with upmost confidence why it wasn't detected through shipping, it's simple: The HB group (can't say the name in the comment) imports most of its stuff illegally into the country through the port. The goods they bring in don't go through the standard procedures (filing papers to report what came in, paying import taxes, getting them through security scanners to check on them...), which is why it didn't get detected when a simple scanner could have easily identified the explosives
Hello. I recall battery's in the sam sung Galaxy's at one point. We're blowing up on there own. Lithium prob. It's not far fetched. To assume Intel collects some of them to see if they were weaponized. And then one figures this path out. Those batteries alone when defective. They We're causing harm. Good luck.
Batteries aren´t a reliable detonator in this case simply because of varying charge. At a given point of time not all batteries´re charged to the same degree thus what makes one battery explode might make another just fizzle and burn. I stick with the boom-stuff camp on this one. For a single target that´s of course something entirely different... concearning.
I fail to see how solar panels can be made to explode since they do not store the generated energy. Solar panel are designed and test to withstand a short circuit. If there is a battery system attached to the installation then that could be the point of attack and not the panels.
Most lithium batteries have a BMI system in them, and this often has custom firmware, if this firmware was hacked, then it would be easy enough to continuously charge the battery until it explodes. So an attack on battery management insights firmware could be applied to any item, car, phone, computer etc. Setting up a wholesale company, that distributes items, is another way to get into the supply chain and equally an easier one than getting into the manufacturing plants. You could also buy stock from any other wholesaler resulting in total market control, or have an exclusive agreement so only you can be the licensed distributor.
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Thought about this right away deffinetly a combo of mechanical, software, and firmware hacking. I think probable for the lithium side for sure, but also do get this one may have been just the supply chain aka mechanical hack.
most of Cisco devices and c i a they install some of micro-ship inside the switches and router and Snowden he already published some of documents he talking about it.
thoughts automatically go to manufacturer with the pagers but i think more likely a point in the distribution chain, a distribution hub where the product is held for some time, or is diverted to a tempory facility, or simply switched when intended for a target destination. the distribution networks systems being the key vulnerability
This might be silly but.... We should put little gravity generators on our phones. Release a little weight which turns gears which creates powers, the more gears, the less the weight needs to be lowered. It's free energy. If they can power a light 💡 they should be able to be made to power a phone. It would obviously be an ugly attachment for the seriously paranoid.
The pager attack is not a cyber attack. It was a supply chain attack. It does not matter if your car is safe from cyber attack because they can't blow the battery. The fact is you do not know if your car has had a explosive charge "manufactured" into it which then can be triggered remotely with an internet connection.
back in the day they showed these kind of cyber attacks in "Die Hard 4". They blew up the PSU's of desktop CPU's,, and they also showed the concept of a firesale. That seemed pretty far fetched at that time, but now it's a reality.
Well mossed has explosives undetected by dogs , x-rays if this attack used explosives and the car has large enough battery you Don't even need any explosive to cause it to explode and you can play with the voltage remotely
As we know the hardware it was shipped from cuntery to another country during this logistics period the mosad the install some of part of tnt which is tntm or something like that and they are waiting to trigger with date and time but the battery can't be exploded like this it's make fire only
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I highly doubt it was the secondary battery and even more doubt that the detonation method was first exploding a battery. I would bet it to be more likely C4 or another military grade explosive was somehow built into the casing or was applied to the casing looking like a plastic or tape/epoxy and that was connected to the circuitry of the board to send an electronic voltage to detonate once a specific signal was received.
The Li battery explosions have all most all been traced back to impurities and break down in QoS in the manufacturing processing. Those impurities cause a chain reaction.. that wouldn't be controlled by a control system.
Two things must be true for this to work. The voltage regulator must be programmable. The device must be online, or have been intercepted physically (supply chain) to inject code or the C4. The larger worry about LiOn batteries is sloppy manufacturing. That is a much larger risk. The solution is that battery regulation needs to be air gapped from the rest of the device.
Im in the process of returning my Ford Fusion for a recall because of the battery having a chance of catching fire and more. Been almost a year and hasn't been found a fix, so battery exploding is very possible in cars
Many people here make comments such Li batteries cannot explode and such, while at 0:38 OTW clearly said that a small amount of C4 is placed next to the batteries. As far as I know, C4 is explosive therefore, it can explode.
I think people are saying that if it WERE A BATTERY ATTACK that batteries in and of themselves do not just explode. They combust, obviously something will be destroyed when exposed to an explosive, but the battery still didn't explode, it was destroyed IN the explosion and more than likely combusted. You're still wrong AND you misunderstood what everyone is saying.
When I lived in Boston I had a M.I.T. student living next to me that kid told me which was about 8 yrs ago that every single device that has a lithium battery in it is actually a bomb sitting in your pocket with the right firmware they can increase the wattage of the battery which creates rights circumstances to trigger a thermo nuclear reaction within the battery which in short would explode. They have known about it for ever. I
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ithium batteries can explode rather than simply burn when certain conditions cause rapid and uncontrolled reactions within the battery, leading to a pressure buildup. Here are the key conditions that may cause an explosion:
1. Overcharging:
Explanation: Overcharging occurs when a lithium battery is charged beyond its voltage limit. Most lithium-ion batteries operate safely within a 4.2V per cell limit, but overcharging can lead to:
Lithium plating: Formation of lithium metal on the anode.
Thermal runaway: Excess heat generated can cause the electrolyte to vaporize, leading to an explosion.
Outcome: This heat can rupture the cell's casing, resulting in a release of flammable gases that ignite or explode under pressure.
so this method would most like be caused by discharging the one battery into the other and overstacking charge very fast.
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27:59 Have you exposed OTWs face to the world ?????
To make a Li battery explode, you need to be able to short the battery or you need to overcharge it very quickly. That requires physical access to the charging circuits of the battery. Im much more likely to lean to explosives being placed in comm devices that Hezzbolah were known to use.
Add to it that pagers are pretty simple devices so all you need is to send a paging pattern to that pager.
Lets say that you get 4 pagings within a minute and then your modified battery recognizes it and goes off. No need to go deep into your pager.
For phones and cars there's more value in using them to track your whereabouts and sift out your data to know when and where you are going to be and strike there - or throw in a coordinated strike towards all your contacts at the same time. Inserting false information can also be very effective. On a pager you can insert false info too, but it's not always that effective.
Also think the BMS will have some extra safety built in.
Are you opening every battery on every phone you have or had? I don't think so. Never know what is actually inside, really...
Or add an explosive since they burn and don't explode.
There were explosives plated in these
Batteries dont explode, they combust or burn. The pagers were delivered with explosives in them.
I have experience with military explosives, I was a muntions systems tech in the US Air Force.
Yeah it seems uninformed to me that we are discussing hacking in the context of this event. Even if a signal was used to initiate an explosion, it was probably built to receive that signal and act as the pagers did, so it isn't exactly hacking
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Batteries do explode. A few men have been killed by exploding phones, 2 when they held them by their heads, and 1 who had his phone in his pocket.
No, phone or car which was not previously charged with explosive can't be blown up by the cyber attack, have zero doubts about that.
Forgot about Samsung galaxy note 7
@@absiddique139 None of them was blown up by cyber attack. Vast majority of those cases were cases of battery melt down or combustion, and in extremely rare cases of explosion, victim had minor burns and scratches, nothing nowhere near of explosion which would end grown man's life.
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You clearly didn't comprehend what was said in the video...
He is saying that a battery attack could happen, whether this was a battery hack, or supply chain tampering.
His point is, in the future, that's going to be a major concern...
@@LifesAScript You clearly didn't comprehend what was said in my comment. I'm not saying that battery attack could not happen, I'm saying that without previously charging pager/phone/car with the explosive, with you battery attack you can melt down battery or make battery burn, and you, most definitely, can't produce an explosion which could kill grown up man.
@@matt_milack I’m pretty they are saying if its packed with explosives like the pager, it is possible
The pagers don't even have Li batteries, either way Li batteries burn they don't explode. It was 100% explosives, how the explosive was triggered is the question. Scooters exploding are from sealed compartments and the gas from the battery expanding.
this video is great love the channel and OTW. but maybe best to take it down and re-upload, look at timestamp 27:57, did we just expose the face of OTW?
I saw his face too! Not very anonymous!
That’s from another video, not OTW
Na, he is Sam Curry. He was referring to the older conversation
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That's definitely not OTW. Just by his voice that face does not match, plus that's the other guy he referred to earlier.
There is a little bit of bs here. Yes lithium batteries can burn. They burn hot and fast this can cause the stuff that surround to burn violently as well. They don't explode.
they do ,, but yes explosion is not the correct word,, the more suitable term is "pop".. li-on do pop at the end of combustion cycle. It's not fatal though.
They do. People have been killed by exploding phones.
This guy needs to read up on lithium batteries before proporting to be an authority.
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More important. Pagers are receivers only, thus cannot be geolocated and info can’t be parsed from them.
From the bit i know i believe are correct.
interesting that airport screening did not trigger alarms... pagers blowing up on planes... that would have been hard to explain away rationally.
No reception on planes??
Ya...C4...thru an international Aeroport! Hmmmm....they have dogs with excellent smell and training for specific substances... but then there are other electronic devices that'll pick up vapor, etc.
Unless they "TIGHTLY ", embedded C4 or something similar within A battery pack or an I.C..
I'll lean on a Lithium cell theory that is tightly bounded together or a better way of putting it; place a firecracker on the "open" palm of your hand and light it -figuratively speaking!
Now, clench the firecracker in the grip of your hand....which of the 2 will do more damage!?😮
Remember, someone designed these products to have 2 major purposes!
Lebanese here. I can tell you with upmost confidence why it wasn't detected through shipping, it's simple:
The HB group (can't say the name in the comment) imports most of its stuff illegally into the country through the port. The goods they bring in don't go through the standard procedures (filing papers to report what came in, paying import taxes, getting them through security scanners to check on them...), which is why it didn't get detected when a simple scanner could have easily identified the explosives
Hello.
I recall battery's in the sam sung Galaxy's at one point.
We're blowing up on there own.
Lithium prob.
It's not far fetched. To assume Intel collects some of them to see if they were weaponized.
And then one figures this path out.
Those batteries alone when defective. They We're causing harm.
Good luck.
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Batteries aren´t a reliable detonator in this case simply because of varying charge. At a given point of time not all batteries´re charged to the same degree thus what makes one battery explode might make another just fizzle and burn. I stick with the boom-stuff camp on this one.
For a single target that´s of course something entirely different... concearning.
I was waiting to say about this thx
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I fail to see how solar panels can be made to explode since they do not store the generated energy. Solar panel are designed and test to withstand a short circuit. If there is a battery system attached to the installation then that could be the point of attack and not the panels.
Interesting .... 🤔 If the pagers receive, can you interfere with another signal to prevent the explosion?
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Unless it was on a timer. They did explode at the same time. So it could be set on a timer to explode at a specific time.
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And now imagine when a similar device explodes onboard an airplane. Cold War 2.0 has begun.
Reception on a plane?? Yeah WiFi but
Maybe mossad has a special explosives you can't detect under airplanes x-ray , dig sniffing and I won't be surprised sine it's mossad
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Seems like the SeaSeaPea is trying to find ways to explode cars… they explode daily over there :D
"Abc news is pretty reliable". I'll take things we publicly learned weren't accurate in the 1970s for $300 Alex.
Most lithium batteries have a BMI system in them, and this often has custom firmware, if this firmware was hacked, then it would be easy enough to continuously charge the battery until it explodes. So an attack on battery management insights firmware could be applied to any item, car, phone, computer etc.
Setting up a wholesale company, that distributes items, is another way to get into the supply chain and equally an easier one than getting into the manufacturing plants. You could also buy stock from any other wholesaler resulting in total market control, or have an exclusive agreement so only you can be the licensed distributor.
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more likely PETN (Semtex) not c4. more compact higher damage for this type of op.
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If I wanted to compromise the supply chain to target a variety of devices I would go for the BMS chip.
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Thought about this right away deffinetly a combo of mechanical, software, and firmware hacking. I think probable for the lithium side for sure, but also do get this one may have been just the supply chain aka mechanical hack.
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most of Cisco devices and c i a they install some of micro-ship inside the switches and router and Snowden he already published some of documents he talking about it.
It had nothing to do with the lithium batteries. Lots of other electronics also exploded like fingerprint scanners
its not a hack, its a money!
And J. fu.. themselfs 'cos nobody gonna buy things from them anymore.
thoughts automatically go to manufacturer with the pagers but i think more likely a point in the distribution chain, a distribution hub where the product is held for some time, or is diverted to a tempory facility, or simply switched when intended for a target destination. the distribution networks systems being the key vulnerability
why not just keep your cellphone in a faraday bag when worried about tracking
This might be silly but....
We should put little gravity generators on our phones. Release a little weight which turns gears which creates powers, the more gears, the less the weight needs to be lowered. It's free energy.
If they can power a light 💡 they should be able to be made to power a phone. It would obviously be an ugly attachment for the seriously paranoid.
Like the future of Boeing planes, telecom HW will never be as simple as should be
I suspect we can hack Key FOBS with a module attached to a Flipper Zero
Between the comments and the video...there is a lot of very purposful misinformation going on.
Shut up. "Figured out a way..." They built the way into the device.
It will be a D.E.W. of some type, , a single pulse per device.
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The pager attack is not a cyber attack. It was a supply chain attack. It does not matter if your car is safe from cyber attack because they can't blow the battery. The fact is you do not know if your car has had a explosive charge "manufactured" into it which then can be triggered remotely with an internet connection.
He's talking too much without telling me anything.
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lithium batteries do not explode like the pagers did. you can look this up its not hard
Can you please make a video about backdoors on smartphones?
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TLDR We don't know how this attack happened.
C4 is the story batteries are a non issue. And car boombas have been around forever.
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It could be a special energy weapon like an emp
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U gotta give it to the Mossad on this they are not f k n g around anymore
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tis true...fash through addressing...
Doctors on call here in Edmonton still use pagers. Simple technology that works and no fumbling for a freaking phone while driving.
But the doctors never answer. They just let ppl die..
back in the day they showed these kind of cyber attacks in "Die Hard 4". They blew up the PSU's of desktop CPU's,, and they also showed the concept of a firesale. That seemed pretty far fetched at that time, but now it's a reality.
Well you can blow certain things capacitors and with psus getting larger with more wattage of ai Etc who knows
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Terrorists blowing up cars is nothing new and they would need to physically access the battery to mess with it before it could blow up, right?😅
Well mossed has explosives undetected by dogs , x-rays if this attack used explosives and the car has large enough battery you Don't even need any explosive to cause it to explode and you can play with the voltage remotely
As we know the hardware it was shipped from cuntery to another country during this logistics period the mosad the install some of part of tnt which is tntm or something like that and they are waiting to trigger with date and time but the battery can't be exploded like this it's make fire only
they amplify the effect with fear of their voodoo magic
NOT c4... poor research...
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Wow such nonsense
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I highly doubt it was the secondary battery and even more doubt that the detonation method was first exploding a battery. I would bet it to be more likely C4 or another military grade explosive was somehow built into the casing or was applied to the casing looking like a plastic or tape/epoxy and that was connected to the circuitry of the board to send an electronic voltage to detonate once a specific signal was received.
C4 is a very stable explosive that can only be detonated by a shockwave, such as when a detonator is fired.
The Li battery explosions have all most all been traced back to impurities and break down in QoS in the manufacturing processing. Those impurities cause a chain reaction.. that wouldn't be controlled by a control system.
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Two things must be true for this to work.
The voltage regulator must be programmable.
The device must be online, or have been intercepted physically (supply chain) to inject code or the C4.
The larger worry about LiOn batteries is sloppy manufacturing. That is a much larger risk.
The solution is that battery regulation needs to be air gapped from the rest of the device.
They made it so you can't access the battery and internals on all phones now. Suspicious.
So buy a Faraday bag
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But if your phone is in a Faraday bag it doesn't work.
@@heruking4391 only take it out when you need it. Use VPN and WiFi only. Use sec tools OS to crack someone else's WiFi. Stay off grid.
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Im in the process of returning my Ford Fusion for a recall because of the battery having a chance of catching fire and more. Been almost a year and hasn't been found a fix, so battery exploding is very possible in cars
Many people here make comments such Li batteries cannot explode and such, while at 0:38 OTW clearly said that a small amount of C4 is placed next to the batteries. As far as I know, C4 is explosive therefore, it can explode.
I think people are saying that if it WERE A BATTERY ATTACK that batteries in and of themselves do not just explode. They combust, obviously something will be destroyed when exposed to an explosive, but the battery still didn't explode, it was destroyed IN the explosion and more than likely combusted.
You're still wrong AND you misunderstood what everyone is saying.
When I lived in Boston I had a M.I.T. student living next to me that kid told me which was about 8 yrs ago that every single device that has a lithium battery in it is actually a bomb sitting in your pocket with the right firmware they can increase the wattage of the battery which creates rights circumstances to trigger a thermo nuclear reaction within the battery which in short would explode. They have known about it for ever. I
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@conroybogle3713 I think you would be pretty shocked to learn what they can actually do.
it a war crime if this is allowed many other thing is allow think about it
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