I purchased a 60W mopa from a different company, but really appreciated the video. I'm on the FB laser group pages and can attest to how much Pascal & Bella help "everyone."
Thanks for your turst and sharing, Robert. Amazing video and coin marking! Haotian laser makes lasers in China for almost 20 years. And warranty the machine for 3 years. If any parts has quality problem, Haotian laser will send the parts to you for free, and bear all costs because of it.
Great video, I am a laser marking machine engineer from Wuhan, China, and this video is much helpful for people to purchase a laser marking machine from China.
I ordered a monport and some people said I made a mistake. The laser seems so far to work great. It has a QC sheet showing the Raycus laser was in spec. Shipping was great from China.
I just ordered from HAO TIAN. I’ll see how it goes. Response was quick for time difference. I could not use the coupon code, I did not see a place to add it. Thanks for the video and recommendations. If it goes bad I’ll update. So far, the interaction with Pascal was positive.
I have the laser. They helped me set it up. Tried it today and it was great. Experience so far was great. Thanks for the video and insight! Now I need to try to get creative and make some stuff!!
This is great work. I pretty much wrote off the £thousands I spent on my first Fiber, ordered from an Optical Valley (Wuhan) supplier. Ahem, early in 2020, so pretty much at the start of Lockdown here in the UK. Wuhan was a bit of a dirty word, so I got a good price. I assumed: it would not arrive because: the ship sank / got stuck in the Suez Canal / my crate would be held at customs forever because I did something wrong / it would be the wrong voltage or just explode when i plugged it in or not work at all. Cut to the end - none of those things happened and it's an incredible machine that's moved me away from traditional old CNC rotary engravers for our brass products. I only recently discovered the helpful FB groups about laser machines, in the case of finding Robert's great videos, the specific Fiber Laser machine group. Great to see so much evangalism for Pascal's company (most from the USA I think, but not all) I desperately need more machines here and would - thanks to the FB group and Robert's great videos - not hesitate to look a lot more closely at Haotin's products now.
Looking at buying 30w split from Pascals Agent here. This video cleared the mist on some things that concerned me….the set up being done by the company helps repair my self doubt about getting things running in less than six months! Looking forward to seeing more of your fibre related “ How to……..”.
You're doing a very good job explaining and no music in the background. Thank you for that, but I need help with the software but the current version. I just got the new Z5-1 Fiber Laser Engraver, Desktop I thought I would start with something basic and not too expensive just to learn the software, hoping eventually it will go to Lightburn. I do have three other. Diode laser 5w 10 w 20w I'm currently using light burn but the software that came with it is easy cad I'm not quite used to that one but since you purchased yours two years ago, the software has changed slightly in the logo was completely different. I'm having a hard time finding someone that can actually explain the software without music in the background and out without just someone pointing a mouse around one location to the next with no explanation. Any suggestions thanks.
LightBurn is sway easier to use once you get the hang of it. the sooner you move to LightBurn the faster you will pick it up. I do one on one classes reach out if you want to learn LightBurn computercreations@charter.net
I ordered a monport and some people said I made a mistake. The laser seems so far to work great. It has a QC sheet showing the Raycus laser was in spec. Shipping was great from China.
Dear Sir , I really appreciate all your video and the amount of useful information you share to us. I am evaluating Haotian for the purchase of a Mopa. I read that you are very happy with the machine. How is it going so far in terms of customer support , feedback and overall aftersale experience ? Thanks for your time and effort
Thanks for the question, I had several occasions to contact Pascal for questions I’ve had no problems on use, lens cost availability that kind of stuff and they have been very responsive. so far I really like my Mopa and the customer service has been top notch. always same day service and in allot of cases same hour service. don’t forget to use the discount code of 62180 for a 50 dollar discount
Wonderful information. I'm debating investing in a fibre (Her majesty says its spelled this way :P ) laser and getting good basic information on the process and what to look for is brilliant.
Thanks for the video. I have read on other sites (Laser Everything for one) that the learning curve for a MOPA is pretty steep. I have no immediate desire to do colors (but would like to have the potential) right now so I am wondering if the steep learning curve is related to just doing colors or is a MOPA a much different animal with the operation harder to master than a q-switched unit. Thanks.
Hello there!! I love all your videos, very knowledgeable you are !! I took your advise and just ordered a Fiber laser from Pascal. How are you enjoying your fiber laser thus far? Do you use it often ? Thanks again keep the videos coming !
I bought my 50 watt fiber laser from Cloud Ray. One reason was they had a warehouse in the US. Buying from the warehouse instead of buying directly from China I didn't have to deal with the import duties and shipping costs from China all of which would have cost me more money in the end. I saw in a comment on a video where a guy bought his fiber laser from China and the import tax was one third the cost of the machine. It's something you may want to pay attention to.
@@computercreationzI read a lot of comments on RUclips videos. Sometime it is hard to separate fact from fiction. It sounds like you got a pretty good deal on your mopa laser.
The fiber is not the best choice for tumblers, a co2 galvo is much better suited for that task . Doing tumblers on a rotary on a fiber is a bit tedious.
@@computercreationz I did already purchase the same as whart you have. I'm getting it tomorrow. Can you tell me on your enclosure what is that piece where the tower goes up and down. Where did you purchase the laser colored glass and also what kind of material are you using for the sides of your enclose. I did let Pascal know that I ordered because I liked what I saw on your yourtube. I hope you get something out of it. If you don't do tumblers what else do you use your rotary for that you got with the laser?
Lasersafetyindustries.com is where I got the protective acrylic. I took the bellows off an old cabinet, don’t know you can get one like that, @@shellyjorgensen2441
@@computercreationz How much of the laser protective Acrylic did you purchase for that enclosure and can you tell me what the total size is? I got the 800mm up and down tower. Is that what you have too?
What size is the workspace? Is 50W sufficient enough for gun engraving? Also, do you recommend MOPA for this kind of work? As far as the files go I see that the machine I am interested in supports: PLT, DXF, STL and some AI, BMP, DST, DWG, LAS, DXP ? Are these files common?
This work space is 3’x3’ so not enough room for long pew pews. There are only a few of the formats you listed that lightburn will take. Lightburn is the software you want for this type of laser
Just Google Mopa fiber laser, they are lightburn compatible if you have an ezcad2 control board. Ezcad 3 control boards are not supported by lightburn at the time
There are many fiber lasers available for purchase. Many do not have good parts and many do not have any support after purchasing. It is very confusing on what to buy. BUT buying from a reputable seller is not the lowest price.
Hi Robert , sorry for all the questions but you and I are the same as in doing diligent research. What 2 lenses did you select and why , also did you get a rotary , I am looking at the 80mm , is that large enough to handle the 20 and 30 ounce Yeti tumblers. The 60mm rotary would be great for rings to but probably useless for tumblers. You made me feel comfortable with the process of buying from China as I am talking with Pascal , thanks for the detailed video
Unfortunately I haven’t even pulled my rotary out that I got from pascal. So I can help you on that one, pascal will be able to tell you I’m sure. I have been very pleased with the entire experience, don’t forget to use code 62180 for a $50 discount on your setup. I ordered the 110mmx110 mm and the 210mmx210mm lenses that covers 4”x 4” and 8”x 8” work area. I should have gotten the 300mm as well because they do the lens calibration for you. Get the lenses you want up from in my opinion! Good luck when your purchase. Good choice!
Hi Robert , quick question , you said you paid for your laser using PayPal linked to a credit card for double protection. Did you pay an additional 2.99% fee for choosing this payment method , which is normally a sellers merchant fee. Trying to understand the process clearly. Thanks
What is the difference between the split system ( blue case ) and the Haotian one you purchased ( silver case ) all I see is cyclop galvo head with no real explanation what that means.
I think the blue and white are the non Mopa machines and the all silver are the Mopa units. The one pictured in the video is a split system meaning the controller and galvo head are in two different locations. Compared to units that fit in all one cabinet.
So we are a few months along... any complaints about the machine? Any regrets? I am working with Pascal now, hammering out the details on a fiber machine. I have all same doubts you had but I'm comfortable now with the payment end of it. I just wonder the quality and such. Is the 3 year warranty all that? And.... now that Lightburn is out for the galvo machines, how has that been working?
It’s been great, use it daily and it’s preformed as expected. Pascal and his staff has been excellent with my questions. Use code 062180 of you want $50 off a laser. Do it again in a heart beat.
That’s because I only paid one singe fee to the laser company. I’m sure it’s wrapped up in there. Transactions was just like ordering off of Amazon very easy. I did have a transaction fee from PayPal but I expected that.
ordered 80watt jpt mopa. Learning about form 2877 FDA hold at customs, if ordering off alibaba be prepared for possible inspection and extra forms. anyone know ways around this or to smooth out the process? keep order under $2500? I used DHL as my receiver if that matters will update
I am in the process of working with Pascal for a fiber laser. Have you found any down side of a higher power 60 watt laser over the 20-30 watt version.
great choice! no I’m really glad I went with the higher wattage, it just does deep engraving faster. time is money ! I would get as high as wattage as you can afford if your planning on making money with your fiber. remember a 60 watt laser in not twice as powerful as a 30 watt it’s much more. it not linear. if you need a discount code use 62180 for a $50 discount!
@@computercreationzthanks for taking the time, I have a jewelry store and we need a tool to cut some names on silver and gold do you think 50w it’s enough to do that?
From experience the risk isn't worth the reward. There's a lot of chinese laser 'companies' that have merely fronted an appearance online. But, have no updated FDA accession number or the CBP has them black listed for multiple reasons. And, inspite of what the company may say or even show you - you won't know until CBP rejects your machine at the port and sends it back. Good luck trying to get a refund. Its happens.
That’s because you’re dealing with shady suppliers! Find one that is reputable like the one I’ve mentioned. I’ve talked to allot of people that have ordered from this company and not one complaint. They been doing laser business for over 20 years no doubt you have to be carefull
By the way, I’m still looking for anyone that has a EIN Number that could return my machine for me. EM-Smart will exchange it for me but until I return my machine their hands are tied.
My apologies I wish I would have found your link a lot sooner I have been dealing with a company by the name of Siemens Sean AN out of China it's supposed to be a 80 Watt JPT Gabon laser with three years support I have been promised everything besides the cheese literally being made out of cheese and that they will deliver it to me. Not that funny I am out thousands of dollars and I don't know what to do I will be contacting paypal's to see if there's anything I can do it's been almost six months not quite. I have many discussions back and forth from these people promising many things that they never ever intended to do. Once again I would like to say the name of the company it is "Seamens"
if you would read the title of the video it covered exactly what the title indicated! this video was never intended to cover types of lasers for certain kind of jobs.
I purchased a 60W mopa from a different company, but really appreciated the video. I'm on the FB laser group pages and can attest to how much Pascal & Bella help "everyone."
appreciate the commmet
Thanks for your turst and sharing, Robert. Amazing video and coin marking! Haotian laser makes lasers in China for almost 20 years. And warranty the machine for 3 years. If any parts has quality problem, Haotian laser will send the parts to you for free, and bear all costs because of it.
thank you Pascal, 3 years is a great warranty for sure!
@@computercreationz Thanks. Message us freely for any machine questions and can not wait to see more nice works!
@@HaotianLaser can I get your WeChat number?
Great video, I am a laser marking machine engineer from Wuhan, China, and this video is much helpful for people to purchase a laser marking machine from China.
I appreciate your input thank you
I ordered a monport and some people said I made a mistake. The laser seems so far to work great. It has a QC sheet showing the Raycus laser was in spec. Shipping was great from China.
Bought the same one from Pascal. This isn't a fake plug, but a genuine purchase I made and received a couple of days ago.
What is a fake plug???
@@computercreationz Essentially a fake vouch.
I just ordered from HAO TIAN. I’ll see how it goes. Response was quick for time difference. I could not use the coupon code, I did not see a place to add it. Thanks for the video and recommendations. If it goes bad I’ll update. So far, the interaction with Pascal was positive.
Thanks, John! I will pay you back for the coupon code.
No need. Thanks for your help.
I have the laser. They helped me set it up. Tried it today and it was great. Experience so far was great. Thanks for the video and insight!
Now I need to try to get creative and make some stuff!!
@@user-br5tq6et6g Thanks~We keep in touch and message us freely for any questions please
This is great work.
I pretty much wrote off the £thousands I spent on my first Fiber, ordered from an Optical Valley (Wuhan) supplier. Ahem, early in 2020, so pretty much at the start of Lockdown here in the UK. Wuhan was a bit of a dirty word, so I got a good price.
I assumed: it would not arrive because: the ship sank / got stuck in the Suez Canal / my crate would be held at customs forever because I did something wrong / it would be the wrong voltage or just explode when i plugged it in or not work at all. Cut to the end - none of those things happened and it's an incredible machine that's moved me away from traditional old CNC rotary engravers for our brass products.
I only recently discovered the helpful FB groups about laser machines, in the case of finding Robert's great videos, the specific Fiber Laser machine group.
Great to see so much evangalism for Pascal's company (most from the USA I think, but not all) I desperately need more machines here and would - thanks to the FB group and Robert's great videos - not hesitate to look a lot more closely at Haotin's products now.
appreciate your comment
Looking at buying 30w split from Pascals Agent here. This video cleared the mist on some things that concerned me….the set up being done by the company helps repair my self doubt about getting things running in less than six months! Looking forward to seeing more of your fibre related “ How to……..”.
Thank you for the comments
Great basic information that’s often overlooked, those coins look great!
Thanks my friend, I appreciate it!
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You're doing a very good job explaining and no music in the background. Thank you for that, but I need help with the software but the current version. I just got the new Z5-1 Fiber Laser Engraver, Desktop I thought I would start with something basic and not too expensive just to learn the software, hoping eventually it will go to Lightburn. I do have three other. Diode laser 5w 10 w 20w I'm currently using light burn but the software that came with it is easy cad I'm not quite used to that one but since you purchased yours two years ago, the software has changed slightly in the logo was completely different. I'm having a hard time finding someone that can actually explain the software without music in the background and out without just someone pointing a mouse around one location to the next with no explanation. Any suggestions thanks.
LightBurn is sway easier to use once you get the hang of it. the sooner you move to LightBurn the faster you will pick it up. I do one on one classes reach out if you want to learn LightBurn computercreations@charter.net
I ordered a monport and some people said I made a mistake. The laser seems so far to work great. It has a QC sheet showing the Raycus laser was in spec. Shipping was great from China.
as long as your happy that’s all that matters!
Dear Sir , I really appreciate all your video and the amount of useful information you share to us.
I am evaluating Haotian for the purchase of a Mopa. I read that you are very happy with the machine.
How is it going so far in terms of customer support , feedback and overall aftersale experience ?
Thanks for your time and effort
Thanks for the question, I had several occasions to contact Pascal for questions I’ve had no problems on use, lens cost availability that kind of stuff and they have been very responsive. so far I really like my Mopa and the customer service has been top notch. always same day service and in allot of cases same hour service. don’t forget to use the discount code of 62180 for a 50 dollar discount
@@computercreationz Thank you
Wonderful information. I'm debating investing in a fibre (Her majesty says its spelled this way :P ) laser and getting good basic information on the process and what to look for is brilliant.
thank you for your comment
Thanks for the video. I have read on other sites (Laser Everything for one) that the learning curve for a MOPA is pretty steep. I have no immediate desire to do colors (but would like to have the potential) right now so I am wondering if the steep learning curve is related to just doing colors or is a MOPA a much different animal with the operation harder to master than a q-switched unit. Thanks.
Yes I would agree the color on stainless can be tricky
Lightburn is releasing their new software at the end of June. You’re right, the market is going to explode.
I think so !
Hello there!! I love all your videos, very knowledgeable you are !! I took your advise and just ordered a Fiber laser from Pascal. How are you enjoying your fiber laser thus far? Do you use it often ? Thanks again keep the videos coming !
that’s great! hopfully you used my code from my video to get $50 off. I really like it and use it several times a week
I bought my 50 watt fiber laser from Cloud Ray. One reason was they had a warehouse in the US. Buying from the warehouse instead of buying directly from China I didn't have to deal with the import duties and shipping costs from China all of which would have cost me more money in the end. I saw in a comment on a video where a guy bought his fiber laser from China and the import tax was one third the cost of the machine. It's something you may want to pay attention to.
i didn’t have to deal with that at all. it was a very smooth transaction . thanks for watching
@@computercreationzI read a lot of comments on RUclips videos. Sometime it is hard to separate fact from fiction. It sounds like you got a pretty good deal on your mopa laser.
due to some supllier can do DDP , then customer in USA not need do anything again, just wait the machine arrive his door by truck
I'm looking at going with exactly what you have. You built your own enclosure? Do you do tumblers with a rotary using your enclosure?
The fiber is not the best choice for tumblers, a co2 galvo is much better suited for that task . Doing tumblers on a rotary on a fiber is a bit tedious.
@@computercreationz I did already purchase the same as whart you have. I'm getting it tomorrow. Can you tell me on your enclosure what is that piece where the tower goes up and down. Where did you purchase the laser colored glass and also what kind of material are you using for the sides of your enclose. I did let Pascal know that I ordered because I liked what I saw on your yourtube. I hope you get something out of it. If you don't do tumblers what else do you use your rotary for that you got with the laser?
Lasersafetyindustries.com is where I got the protective acrylic. I took the bellows off an old cabinet, don’t know you can get one like that, @@shellyjorgensen2441
@@computercreationz How much of the laser protective Acrylic did you purchase for that enclosure and can you tell me what the total size is? I got the 800mm up and down tower. Is that what you have too?
Thanks for your all videos.
Howmany hours can we use fiber laser ?
Example diode laser 10.000 - 20.000 hours depend usage
about the same from what I understand
What size is the workspace? Is 50W sufficient enough for gun engraving? Also, do you recommend MOPA for this kind of work? As far as the files go I see that the machine I am interested in supports: PLT, DXF, STL and some AI, BMP, DST, DWG, LAS, DXP ? Are these files common?
This work space is 3’x3’ so not enough room for long pew pews. There are only a few of the formats you listed that lightburn will take. Lightburn is the software you want for this type of laser
Could you explain what (MOPA) is? Im confused, I thought these lasers where Lightburn compatible?
Just Google Mopa fiber laser, they are lightburn compatible if you have an ezcad2 control board. Ezcad 3 control boards are not supported by lightburn at the time
Good video. Are you going to produce any videos about creating products on the fiber laser like you have for the CO2 laser?
yes if I can ever slow down on the co2 content. it’s coming !
There are many fiber lasers available for purchase. Many do not have good parts and many do not have any support after purchasing. It is very confusing on what to buy. BUT buying from a reputable seller is not the lowest price.
this is exactly why I posted this video this provider has an excellent reputation and stands behind there products 100 % hard to find these days
Hi Robert , sorry for all the questions but you and I are the same as in doing diligent research. What 2 lenses did you select and why , also did you get a rotary , I am looking at the 80mm , is that large enough to handle the 20 and 30 ounce Yeti tumblers. The 60mm rotary would be great for rings to but probably useless for tumblers. You made me feel comfortable with the process of buying from China as I am talking with Pascal , thanks for the detailed video
Unfortunately I haven’t even pulled my rotary out that I got from pascal. So I can help you on that one, pascal will be able to tell you I’m sure. I have been very pleased with the entire experience, don’t forget to use code 62180 for a $50 discount on your setup. I ordered the 110mmx110 mm and the 210mmx210mm lenses that covers 4”x 4” and 8”x 8” work area. I should have gotten the 300mm as well because they do the lens calibration for you. Get the lenses you want up from in my opinion! Good luck when your purchase. Good choice!
Hi Robert , quick question , you said you paid for your laser using PayPal linked to a credit card for double protection. Did you pay an additional 2.99% fee for choosing this payment method , which is normally a sellers merchant fee. Trying to understand the process clearly. Thanks
@@bradouellette6558 yes and I knew that up front. Worth it to me for the exra layer of protection
What is the difference between the split system ( blue case ) and the Haotian one you purchased ( silver case ) all I see is cyclop galvo head with no real explanation what that means.
I think the blue and white are the non Mopa machines and the all silver are the Mopa units. The one pictured in the video is a split system meaning the controller and galvo head are in two different locations. Compared to units that fit in all one cabinet.
maybe just machine body (case) different. the machine quality is related with the parts in body
After a year, would you still recommend Pascal’s fiber lasers?
YES, my 60 watt fiber jpt from Pascal has been rock solid and use it about 3 days a week! 0 issues
So we are a few months along... any complaints about the machine? Any regrets? I am working with Pascal now, hammering out the details on a fiber machine. I have all same doubts you had but I'm comfortable now with the payment end of it. I just wonder the quality and such. Is the 3 year warranty all that? And.... now that Lightburn is out for the galvo machines, how has that been working?
It’s been great, use it daily and it’s preformed as expected. Pascal and his staff has been excellent with my questions. Use code 062180 of you want $50 off a laser. Do it again in a heart beat.
@@computercreationz How about Lightburn? Any hiccups?
@@scottbowen6514 it’s been great haven’t been back to ezcrash once!
Using your credit card through papal. Did you have to pay an additional international fee? Above the alibaba 2.9%
Just the PayPal transaction fee which was like 270.00
You didn't seem to talk about the tariff fees when shipping from China.
That’s because I only paid one singe fee to the laser company. I’m sure it’s wrapped up in there. Transactions was just like ordering off of Amazon very easy. I did have a transaction fee from PayPal but I expected that.
ordered 80watt jpt mopa. Learning about form 2877 FDA hold at customs, if ordering off alibaba be prepared for possible inspection and extra forms. anyone know ways around this or to smooth out the process? keep order under $2500? I used DHL as my receiver if that matters will update
Congrats on the 80, that's what I would have ordered if they would have had it available. Good luck on your purchase and thanks for watching.
@@computercreationz just cleared customs that 31% tarif tho ouch
Landed today was about 25 days from payment to received from alibaba
@@RITUA7 Was the 31% above what you had thought the final payment would be?
@Larry S. it was a separate charge that customs applies while they hold it.
I am in the process of working with Pascal for a fiber laser. Have you found any down side of a higher power 60 watt laser over the 20-30 watt version.
great choice! no I’m really glad I went with the higher wattage, it just does deep engraving faster. time is money ! I would get as high as wattage as you can afford if your planning on making money with your fiber. remember a 60 watt laser in not twice as powerful as a 30 watt it’s much more. it not linear. if you need a discount code use 62180 for a $50 discount!
Hello Sir. Does this machine accept a rotary?
Yes a rotary was supplied with this fiber laser.
Bought the same one from Pascal
Great Machine
how long does it take them to email back
The are on Holliday and won’t be back till the Feb 5
How much was the laser?
$5500 non mopa was. About $4500
hou much did youy paid fir tis
$5,500, they have come down in price since I bought this one. I think you can get an 80 watt for about that price now
@@computercreationzthanks for taking the time, I have a jewelry store and we need a tool to cut some names on silver and gold do you think 50w it’s enough to do that?
From experience the risk isn't worth the reward. There's a lot of chinese laser 'companies' that have merely fronted an appearance online. But, have no updated FDA accession number or the CBP has them black listed for multiple reasons. And, inspite of what the company may say or even show you - you won't know until CBP rejects your machine at the port and sends it back. Good luck trying to get a refund. Its happens.
That’s because you’re dealing with shady suppliers! Find one that is reputable like the one I’ve mentioned. I’ve talked to allot of people that have ordered from this company and not one complaint. They been doing laser business for over 20 years no doubt you have to be carefull
By the way, I’m still looking for anyone that has a EIN Number that could return my machine for me. EM-Smart will exchange it for me but until I return my machine their hands are tied.
why not get EIN yourself? its available online and its free.
@@rarjlasercraftshop5722 I got one several years ago for my start-up company. Like you said...free and it was very simple to do.
My apologies I wish I would have found your link a lot sooner I have been dealing with a company by the name of Siemens Sean AN out of China it's supposed to be a 80 Watt JPT Gabon laser with three years support I have been promised everything besides the cheese literally being made out of cheese and that they will deliver it to me. Not that funny I am out thousands of dollars and I don't know what to do I will be contacting paypal's to see if there's anything I can do it's been almost six months not quite. I have many discussions back and forth from these people promising many things that they never ever intended to do. Once again I would like to say the name of the company it is "Seamens"
so sorry to hear that!
Unfortunately it seems advertisement video, rather than to explain which kind of correct slection of laser mechine for kind of jobs
if you would read the title of the video it covered exactly what the title indicated! this video was never intended to cover types of lasers for certain kind of jobs.
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