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Blessed are the gentle, for they shall inherit the earth.
I love how much effort you are putting into following the plot and keeping up with all the characters.
You're one of my favorite reactors.
Wow, thank you!
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I agree. She's done a wonderful job, not having read the books.
Yes, there aren't many who do that. Good work👍
One of the best commentaries and reactions.
Really appreciated how you noticed Ian Mckellan's superb performance as Gandalf so early in the movie. Not many actors could do what he does. Perfect casting for the role.
I remember being in a movie and knew that the movies were being made but hadn't seen any teaser/trailer yet. They had a teaser in the theater, the part where the party walks between two rocks one by one. There wasn't any lead in, just the music and them filing between the two rocks. I knew *instantly* what/who it was because the casting/costuming was so perfect. I literally let out a yell in the middle of the theater.
10 min in and I am living for how you keep saying "remember this?" and "remember that?" as if we're right there with you watching it for the first time lol. It's so wholesome!
Outstanding reaction! To address why Gandalf can't take the ring, remember he tells Frodo, "I would use this ring from a desire to do good... But through me, it would wield a power too great and terrible to imagine." The ring corrupts all and will use it's wearer. Hobbits are extremely kind natured folk. They don't thirst for power and enjoy the simple things. Less for the ring to tempt them with. Can't wait to watch the rest of your reactions! By the way, I love that you're pausing and analyzing what to you just watched. Good stuff ✌🏽
Very well put. I was about to post something similar on that subject myself, but your explanation was perfect. So I think I'll help clear up some other parts which confused her.
She didn't quite understand what Saruman meant when he said "Your love of the halflings leaf has slowed your wits." Halfling is a slang term used by humans meaning "hobbit". As far as I know it's not considered a derogatory term by the hobbits, as they sometimes refer to themselves as halflings while dealing with other races. Think of it like the terms "African American" vs "Black". Both mean the same thing, but one is considered to be more "proper" while the other (while not necessarily considered a slur) isn't "as proper".
Also, I don't recall that line from the books and it may have been written as an original line for the movie. If so it may be a reference to the popular fan theory that "Halfling Pipe Weed" is a metaphor for marijuana. Although that theory would explain the hobbits healthy appetites, it in fact was debunked by Tolkien himself back in the 1960's. But despite this, the theory still has believers to this day.
As for her confusion of the words written on the ring. The language itself was that of Mordor, also known as Black Speech, or Black Speech Of Mordor. However Mordor doesn't have their own written language, so Sauron used the Elven alphabet. Think of it as being like writing a message in Hebrew, but using the Greek alphabet to do so.
@@Thundarr100 In the books pipeweed was tobacco, like you say, confirmed by Tolkien himself but in Peter Jackson's LOTR, Jackson most definitely gave it psychoactive properties.
@@Thundarr100 yeah the “halflings” name was actually “given” to them. If I remember correctly, when the Númenoreans encountered hobbits, they called them halflings because they were about half their own height
Pretty sure Tolkien elaborated in this in his Letters. Most often those who wield great power and wish to do the most good often cause the most trouble lol.
Or rather, a recurring theme you’ll see with people like Gandalf and Galadriel refusing that temptation.
About Sam's relationship to Frodo. Sam actually works for Frodo as his gardener. That's why he calls him "Mr. Frodo" sometimes. Over time, they became best friends but there's still something of the employer/employee aspect about it so Sam ends up doing the carrying of the gear and other things like that. It seems weird to us now, but Tolkein was a product of his age and the British class system. He served in WWI and had personal experience with the kinds of close relationships developed between the officers and their appointed soldier/servants. The servant was still a servant but they also grew to be extremely close to the officers they served. Sam and Frodo's relationship is based on this structure. Meridoc Brandybuck (Merry,) and Peregrin Took (Pippen) are friends and cousins to each other and slightly more distant cousins to Frodo. Bilbo's mother was a Took.
Thanks for articulating this. To add a bit more context, Frodo is also a good deal older than the other hobbits. He's in his 60's when they set out, I believe, and the others are young adults in their 30's.
@@malachilowe6928 Yes, though Frodo is actually 50 and he waits *17 years* after Bilbo leaves before setting out on his journey. Pippen is the youngest, only in his 20s which is equivalent to being a teenager.
@@pamelahofman1785 Frodo turned 33 at Bilbo’s 111th birthday. 144 guests were invited to match their combined ages: one gross. So 17 years passed before Frodo left the Shire at 50 years old.
The old class relationship is much more pronounced in the books of course. Sam even calls Frodo "Master". The historical background would be too much baggage to unwrap in today's culture and distract from the storyline, so I actually like how they transformed the relationship between Sam and Frodo for the movies.
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They cut that time jump here:
In the BOOK(S) it is 17 years between the Birthday Party and the day when Frodo leaves the Shire on his quest.
...In the film, it is a matter of days (if that!)
Glad to see you selected the Extended Edition. I heartily recommend you stick with those versions for the next two films.
@@mattrasp1615 or if you do, then you might wait far too long to watch the extended
The ring gives it's owner the power to dominate and rule according to the power of the owner. Bilbo an d Frodo are Hobits with very little desire and power. Gandalf is a being of great power and would more easily be corrupted by the ring which is why he does not want to touch it.
Exactly right. That's what's very clever about how the ring functions and its commentary/moral lesson with regards to wisdom and power. The ring corrupts everyone and so the people who believe themselves to be powerful enough not to be corrupted by it are ironically far more susceptible to its corruption, because people of great power tend to think very highly of themselves and their capatability. So the last thing you want is a very great being (like Gandalf) getting corrupted by the ring (as he said himself: "Understand Frodo, I would use this Ring from a desire to do good. But through me, it would wield a power too great and terrible to imagine."). Gandalf had the wisdom to know that those who have no desire for power and domination and those who aren't destined for greatness are the most suited for the ring, as they would have fewer temptations and desires for the ring to take advantage of. This is a lesson in life too: be suspicious of those who desire power, because absolute power corrupts absolutely, and those who do not seek power are often more worthy of being given it.
This is the easiest way to see it. Great job explaining 👍🏽
@@TheGroucho66 Spot on comment, although I would disagree with your last sentence. The idea that power corrupts is, in my opinion, very flawed. I would say that there's enough evidence to suggest that power simply draws in those who are already corrupt. Those who would want to wield power from their own twisted sense of righteousness and their way of seeing good and evil, they are already 'corrupt' and would want power to enact their beliefs and exert power over others.
Evidence to the idea that power does not corrupt, you'd have to look up figures like Cincinnatus and George Washington, or other historical figures who was put in a leadership role not because they wanted it, but because everyone else asked it of them. And not only that, people like Cincinnatus immediately gave up the power they were given as soon it was no longer necessary to be wielded. Not because he was asked to, but because he didn't want it. He was, in a funny way, a bit like a hobbit. He just wanted to go back to his peaceful life of farming.
There are a few other historical leaders throughout history who was made to lead against their own intentions, but yes. I generally deem most humans inherently corrupt and would take power without hesitating if it was offered, which is why the majority of people in a position of power tends to draw a lot of ire. And the issue with getting a good leader is that you do not find the greatest leaders among those who want to lead. Aspiring politicians are often corrupt from the outset because they are aspiring for power over others right from the get-go, before they even have any.
Anyway, that's my little rant on why I think "power corrupts" is flawed. Sorry for my rant, but also thank you for making me rant.
@@LethalOwl Interesting idea but I do not necessarily agree.
Firstly, I should clarify that I don't think that having power makes one corrupt, but that power tends to attract (as you rightly said) morally corrupt people.
However I don't necessarily agree with this idea that those corrupted by power were corrupted already. Some, I believe, can be morally decent people who fall from grace because of naivety or power beyond their control (especially when we're talking about the dark magic of the ring although I get we're talking about irl stuff now). I think it's inaccurate and unhelpful to imply that those who do bad things were always inherently bad, because other wise there'd be no such thing as redemption or atonement.
Also, the majority of your comment seems to align perfectly with what I suggested i.e. those who don't seek power but find it thrust upon them tend to be more suited for power than those who desire or seek it. Perhaps it was sloppy language on my part, but I don't think having power makes one corrupt, but rather the sentiment that SEEKING power is suspect and is often indicative of one who shouldn't acquire it. Additionally though (and this might be the more interesting point we an discuss), when one is granted power, whether they sought it or not, the chances of them becoming corrupt or more corrupt than they already are does increase I think, and when we're discussing absolute power? The debate is whether even the purest human would be able to act morally at all times with that power. This stuff is fun to talk about tho lol
@@TheGroucho66 I suspect there was a bit of missunderstanding on my part, as we seem to be on the same page on basically all of this! Thanks for the lengthy reply, was an interesting read and I agree. It's definitely fun to talk about.
And you're right, not all who get power are 'bad' from the outset. I suppose me saying that they were 'already corrupt' implies they were bad people right away, but it's not entirely what I meant. It definitely came out sounding like that, though, after reading back my own comment.
I suppose it'd be clearer to say that many are unaware of what they'd be like if they were suddenly given power, especially without having witnessed or studied a lot of history about what some of the most powerful figures in history did when they had it. And it was rarely pleasant. I'd probably not be very pleasant either, given power, in the eyes of many. Then again, I deem myself moreover a hobbit - I just want to be left alone and in peace in the long run.
I just wish we had more Cincinnatus-like people these days.
This is really a perfect reaction vid, whether you liked the movie or not. I haven’t seen someone put so much effort into following a story….the notes! It’s kinda, really nice to see….when I see Gandalf researching things on screen, it was like you were doing it too. Very sweet and genuine. A person can’t fake that. Can’t wait to watch the rest.
Wow, thank you!
The Nazgul exist almost completely in the void so they actually see Frodo even better when he puts on the ring.
exactly this - they are actually blind in the real world, that's why they are 'smelling' for the Ring
I love how you strive so hard to understand not just the plot, but the thoughts and motivations of the characters. I also love the info about your own culture that you include in how it relates to the things you are watching. Excellent reaction. 😁
I love she is taking notes and really gets into it.
I'm so excided she's starting these movies. It's going to be so fun.
I am so glad you finally started the trilogy!!!!! this will be such a wonderful watch with you ❤
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Amazon could do the same but hey are pushing for diversity and identity politics.. their version will be an abomination to Tolkiens books
Sam is a servant. He's Frodo's gardener in the story, but Tolkien based him on the kind of officer's servants (batmen) he'd met in WWI.
But remember that just because Sam is a servant, that does not mean he can't also be a friend.
@@bmoak Yes LOTR translates directly to the British class system of which Tolkien was very much a part.
@@bmoak Isn't 'master' just another variant of 'mister' for unmarried, young(ish) men?
I once explained Sauron's ring of power in the following way: think of it as a demon in the shape of a ring. It isn't "a ring with a demon inside it", its literally a demon in the shape of a ring. And when you wear it, it starts corrupting you. Humans, being thirsty for power, are more easily influenced than Hobbits, who -- as is pointed out -- enjoy the quiet, pastoral life of farmers and gardeners. They aren't as ambitious, so there is less to tempt them with.
The Hobbits do get corrupted by the ring, but it takes decades -- in the case of Bilbo, over 50 years -- for them to get to the same level of corruption as a human would suffer in a few years.
Sauron poured his "virtue", his power, into the ring, so it's not a demon, as in a willful entity. But it's motivated and powered by Sauron's essence or native power.
Gandalf refused to take the ring because he knew it would eventually corrupt him and use him for its own ends. He doesn't show his power much, but Gandalf and the other wizards in Middle Earth are very powerful beings with powerful magic. They are only allowed to use their abilities to guide the other races in the fight against the forces of evil, and never to influence things directly. If Gandalf took the ring, he would become a tyrant over Middle Earth. The only one strong enough to use the ring without being manipulated by it is Sauron himself, who is stronger than any of the wizards, elves, or other races. Giving it to Frodo, a hobbit, is the best option here because Hobbits do not have a strong desire for power compared to the other races, so it takes longer for them to be corrupted.
It also depends on how good a person is. If one has evil in his heart, he will be more easily corrupted than one who does not. When Gollum first got the ring, he already had a bit of a greedy nature to him, as well as a bit of a mean streak. It was very subtle, but it was there. Which is why the ring so easily ensnared him.
Also, even were the ring trying to manipulate Sauron it would be manipulating him to be more like … Sauron, as it is essentially his own essence. So no real effect.
Gandalf also had another reason for refusing the ring but that is not revealed 'til much later on. It would be a spoiler to explain it this early.
Well in the books Tom was unaffected by the ring but he's a special case
He's Tom Bombadil!
Tom Bomdaillo!
First of all, 'Lord of the Rings': 'Fellowship of the Ring', 'The Two Towers' and Return of the King' were all filmed in New Zealand and consecutively, and it took just a little over 3 years to complete the Trilogy. The cast and crew became very close to each other like one big large family during the filming. There will be many tears of sadness and happiness all the way to the end. When you do your reaction to 'The Two Towers' and 'Return of the King', you should do it in 3 or 4 parts. Many others have done that with their reactions to the Trilogy of 'Lord of the Rings'. Excellent reaction K.S.O.!!
The fact that Frodo has no powers and is so good natured is exactly why is so well suited to carry it.
I'm loving how you're tracking the cultural parallels. They're a feature of Tolkien's writing. He felt these kinds of themes in Saxon culture had become heavily fragmented after the Norman conquest in 1066. I'm confident you'll get on top of the characters peoples and places even though there's a wealth of them too. You saw the map. It's from the book and very handy for following a journey. Good luck.
A recurring theme in this story is how the different characters react to the temptation of the ring, many times when Frodo tries to give it away, thinking he is no hero and someone bigger, stronger, and wiser should have the Ring, not him. How the other characters respond to the Ring reflects Tolkien's belief that some people should not be tempted with or given great power, and also that persons who fail the test can redeem themselves.
Loved it so much! Can't wait for part two. I just have to say how much i appreciate when someone sits down with a notebook and is willing to watch and enjoy 3 hours of my favorite ever written story. thanks for doing it. i had the best time
Thank you so much!!
Gandalf shouting "BILBO BAGGINS!" is one of my favorite parts in the whole trilogy. You really can feel his voice in your bones when he says it!
This was joyous! Thanks for sharing😊
Brave move to go for the extended edition - but hugely appreciated by us nerds!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I really love and appreciate how you make notes, stop and recap from time to time as you progress through your reactions.. it really sets you apart from other reactors. You have quickly become one of my favourite reactors. ❤
I appreciate that!
The best trilogy ever🔥🤯
I love how you take such time, patience and interest in each movie you watch. The effort you put in to understand each character is so wonderful to see.
9:23 "Bilbo Baggins!" Hahahahaha! Loved it!
Fantastic acting, indeed. That's why Ian McKellen is my favorite actor of all time!
The only bad thing about this is that I have to WAIT to see part 2! 😅 I am enjoying your reactions and I love that you're taking notes. Eventually all the names and places will become familiar to you, but so far you're on the right track.
Sam is Frodo`s gardener. And also in the books they have quite a big difference in ages as Frodo is quite a bit older gentleman.
Hobbits are Canadians!
Gandalf knew that Bilbo had a magic ring, but didn't know WHICH ring it was until he tested it in the fire and the writing appeared.
In New Zealand you van visit the real Shire/Hobbiton set used in the movies and even have a meal there.
The writing on the ring is a twisted form of elvish, “the black speech of Mordor”. The people of Mordor are corrupted elves called orcs. The maker of the ring, Sauron, tortured them until they turned into monsters. Gandalf is neither man nor elf, he’s called an Istari, wizards, Saruman the white that he fought in the tower is one of them. Sauron the evil maker of the ring was once one of them as well.
Sauron was never an Istari, that name is an elvish name referring to the form they (the Wizards) took when they came to Middle Earth. Sauron, Gandalf and Saruman were Maiar.
Slight correction: it was Melkor, Sauron's original master, who corrupted the elves into orcs. And by referring to Sauron as being "once one of them as well" I'm assuming you mean he is a Maiar like them, which remains true. :)
Thank you, I said what was to my understanding, my mistake, I need to read the Silmarillion :)
@@jordanmcbride9215 It's a very dense read, but totally worth it!
Pippin is not nearly as big of an idiot in the books as he is portrayed in the movie. In the book, it was not his fault that Frodo wound up putting on the ring in the Prancing Pony inn. It was Frodo's own mistake.
And it also wasn't because of the fire that the nazgul, came to attack them on Weathertop.
And it should be noted that a lot more time is passing than is shown in the movie. They visit with the elves passing through the Shire. They have dinner and spend the night with Farmer Maggot and his family. It takes them about two weeks to get from Weathertop to Rivendell.
Not to mention 17 years pass between Bilbo leaving the shire and Frodo leaving the shire.
Due to the necessity for the movies to cut all of these slower episodes between Bag End and Bree we got eliminated or whitened/justified of many of Frodo's mistakes on the road to Bree. :) Frodo's mistake in Bree (with putting the Ring) was evident in the book. In the movie it seems to me that this mistake was given to Pippin. But not without some linience for Pippin :) In the book Gandalf before he leaves toward south (to Saruman) gives the innkeeper (Barliman Butterbur) a letter for Frodo in which he explaines the presence and intentions of Strider to the hobbit. In the movie we see only that Pippin is talking with the innkeeper and points on Frodo saying "I know a Baggins..." So even though Frodo introduces himself to Barliman as Mr. Underhill Barliman asked Pippin about a Baggins. So we can assume that Barliman having to deliver this letter for Baggins just asked the newly met hobbit from the Shire about a Baggins. :) Hobbits from Bree and Shire knew which family is from Bree and which is from the Shire. Thats why Pippin is telling Frodo's real name :)
Don’t underestimate the power of the One Ring. It’s corruption cannot be resisted. Gandalf explained he dare not even touch it because through him it would wield a terrible power. Bilbo and Frodo don’t have any powerful abilities / ambitions for the Ring to exploit, not to say they aren’t still vulnerable
The more powerful you are, the more damage the ring does in your hands. If Gandalf took the ring, it would corrupt him into essentially another dark lord like Sauron.
Sam and his father are expert gardeners and were hired for years by Bilbo and then Frodo to work their gardens. And in Sam's simple and humble thinking, Frodo is the wisest and greatest person in the world, literally. He never stops seeing him that way and adamantly dedicates himself to aiding Frodo and making sure Frodo succeeds and survives, with no regard for himself. He is absolutely dedicated to "Mr. Frodo".
A few helping notes:
- Gandalf is not a man, he's an Ainur or Maiar (so are Saruman and Sauron) and is at least 10 thousand years old. They preceed the creation of Arda (Earth) by at least 4 thousands years (Arda is 6 thousand years old, while the "age" called Middle Earth is just over 3 thousand years old ).
- Gandalf asks Bilbo about visits of "very old friends" referring to his own age and to the fact that 60 years have gone by since they last seen each other.
- Gollum is the representation of the Ring's domination upon its bearer, as you will learn later. He bore the One Ring for 500 years before Bilbo took it. Gandalf dare not take the One Ring because he knows of its powers through the history of The Nine and Gollum's.
- The Nine are 9 human kings who were given rings corrupted by the One Ring. They now are Wraiths (Nazgûl) who work for the Ring and its rightful owner, Sauron.
- Sauron is a corrupted Maiar. He never dies in the battle against Isildur, as one may assume, he just loses his powers because the One Ring was taken from him when Isildur cut his finger. He just dims and hides to gather forces before reappearing. When Gollum finds the Ring, 2 thousand years have passed since Sauron's defeat.
- Gandalf doesn't really have visions. The flashes he sees are related to objects corrupted by Sauron. When he touches the Ring or the Palantiri and sees that eye, that is not a vision of Mordor (Sauron's reign), but Sauron himself watching him back. Both the Ring and the Palantiri act like location beacons, in a way.
- Frodo and Sam are marveled by the Elves because they are magnificent old beings, a very secluded race considered "the fairest of all". Elves didn't associate with other beings or creatures for a long time then.
- In the Library, Gandalf is referring to the writing in the Ring itself. It's written in Black Speech and nor Elves or Wizards dare to speak it. They simplified it calling it "a form of Elvish", but it's actually a very differently structured language.
- Saruman is corrupted by the One Ring. He acts like he's associating with Sauron to restore his powers, but he's actually thinking of deceiving Sauron and keeping the Ring for himself.
- Gandalf and Saruman have basically the same strenght. It's the use of magic that defines who falls and who stands. Think of it as who's faster in conjuring spells.
- Gandalf gives the Ring to Frodo because Hobbits are the most innocent creatures in Middle Earth. He thought most Hobbits could never be corrupted by its power because they lack the need for power.
- The 3 movies seem to tell a quick story, something that would only take a few months perhaps, but Frodo's journey actually takes almost 18 years to complete.
You're mostly right, but the Elves aren't Maiar.
@@rachelmap100 Quendi. I commented by memory and it failed me there.
I like the way that she takes notes
It's correct that the Ring is alive and contains part of Sauron's spirit,but Sauron is also alive in the literal meaning of the word,in the movie he is portrayed as the flaming eye, actually in the books he was alive also in a physical sense
I love how you're taking notes and thinking about the film from an analytical perspective. First time I've ever watched you but you earned a subscriber.
Sam is based on a batman (servant in WWI) that Tolkien had during the war. He always felt the batman was wiser and braver than he was. They still had a mostly class based system for rank then.
One of the most intelligent and perceptive reactors 👏. Using subtitles will help you with names & places. 👌
I love how you're actually invested in these reactions you even remembered isildures name which is more than I could say for most
Thank you to the kind and wonderful person who provided these to her! 👍🏻
Frodo has no power, he is happy doing simple things that's why he MUST take the ring. Gandalf himself has big powers but if the ring corrupts him, he will be invincible.
I am so very excited that you've started this trilogy. The books are incredibly long and intricate works of art. These films are so well done it's amazing. Watch for details like the quality of the armor, costumes, swords, etc. Entire models were created from some of the locations and the scenery of various areas in New Zealand where they were filmed is absolutely breathtaking. Tolkien created a very complex world with actual complete languages and thousands of years of history. I hope so much that you enjoy this journey.
You can visit Hobbiton. The set is a tourist attraction in New Zealand where the three films were filmed of course. You can have a beer and a meal in the Green Dragon Inn.
30:12 the writing on the ring uses the Elvish script but is in the 'dark tongue of mordor' its covered in the part where Gandalf puts the ring in the fire and later at the Council of Elrond . Dont worry although the movie is missing large parts of the book , Peter Jackson did a great job and by the end of the 3rd movie you'll be heading towards being an authority on LotR from no prior knowledge .
I had it explained to me that mordor uses elvish script because they are great at destroying and corrupting, but suck at creating new things. So they just borrowed the already established script from the elves. Feel free to correct me though!
@@McBackstabber That is correct. Melkor/Morgoth (Sauron’s original master) desired to search for the flame of life that Eru Illuvatar (god of middle earth) used to create life but failed, so he could not create life himself. He could only corrupt that which originally had been created. The orcs are corrupted Elves, the Balrogs are corrupted Maiar (the race of Sauron, Saruman, Gandalf, etc.), so on and so forth. That’s a big theme of the story, Evil cannot create but only corrupt.
Awesome reaction kso, can't wait for part 2 of lord of the rings, your reaction was brilliant and your analysis is knockout as always 👍
Thank you so much 😁
I second this. For someone unfamiliar with these books and films, you understand so much of what is happening, so quickly getting to the essence!
Starman tells Gandalf your love of the halflings` leaf (the hobbits` tobacco) has clouded your mind
Autocorrect :-( saruman
@@jeancoppin6353 “There’s a Saruman waiting in the sky.” 🎵
This is one of the best reactions I've seen. You really pick up on the essence of things really quick. Like the Elves being angels, it is the simplest answer.
So glad to see you react to LotR (probably my favorite movies of all time)-really like how you keep track of all the characters & places! 😃 I think you asked about Gandalf & Saruman. In the Tolkien lore, they are called Istari- sort of like angels-sent in the form of old men to help the peoples of Middle Earth.
Sam is both Frodos servant and friend at the same time. Tolkien served as an officer with a Lancashire regiment during wwi and he was deeply impressed with the workingclass privates and lower nco:s from that region. Sam is based on them and for Tolkien (and many others) he is the main hero of this story.
Saruman the White to make it a short answer is the leader of the Wizards -- there are 5 Wizards known in the books but throughout the entire movie series only 3 are depicted -- Gandalf is the Grey Wizard and is sort of neutral and follows what he deems as right but felt he could trust his leader with what he discovered not knowing that Saruman was corrupted by gazing into the Palantir -- you will see more about that orb later on
None of the wizards were neutral, they were all there to oppose Sauron through indirect efforts, each having a different role. They were meant to avoid the use of their full strength to directly oppose Sauron to avoid a repeat of the destruction in the first age.
I am glad that I had the chance to read the books many times before watching the movies, but also that I get to see you trying to work things out from the limited information you get from the movies, especially leaving out almost the entire store from The Hobbit about how Bilbo came to be in the caves and get the ring. I am sure that you will love the books all the more, and have many AHA! moments.
Sam is a servant and gardener for Frodo as his father was working for Bilbo. And Frodo, Merry and Pippin are cousins all from higher class families - its similar to English "gentry class" of 18 - 19th century from "manor houses". They were not aristocracy in strict way they got no titles to govern (no dukes or barons or such things), but they were landlords of mostly farming land, obligated to their tenants. The closest adequate in history is this class of gentry from rural England presented in the books of Jane Austen and her books films adaptations.
The few places you can see landscapes like that are New Zealand, Ireland, and the USA.
I highly recommend reading the books, starting with The Hobbit. If ever you are reading a great book that you wish wouldn't end, you will love this story. The Hobbit is Bilbo's story of how he found the ring, which is only mentioned here.
Amazing reaction so far. Love that you pause it. Really taking it in. Love it. So far so good, just to say for future, continue to pause it at good points like you already are. There are so many good moments ahead, so as long as you’re conscious of the fact you aren’t pausing it in the middle of pivotal moments. (You’ve done perfect so far, so not a criticism, just an encouragement) love it 💞
Thank you so much!!
I have watched you off and on for a long while, but your reaction to this movie has touched me. The books are very thick with very small print and these movies has skipped a lot of materiel, but your reaction, has touched me and earned you a like and a sub. I grew up reading and rereading these books, time and time again, one of my favorite book series of all time. Enjoy the adventure.
Yes I’ve been waiting for this. Welcome to the journey.
What an amazing reaction!! 💜💜
About Sam and Frodo's relationship. Frodo comes from wealth, the large property he's on owned by his family for generations, much like a landed lord. Sam is Frodo's gardener, like his grandfather before him, like a serf. So Sam is technically a servant. However, they're ALSO best friends. :)
Also, I don't think Sam is carrying everyone elses stuff. He just brought ALOT of stuff (mostly for cooking, hense the pots and pans hanging from his pack)
Wonderful! Love how passionate you are.
I love your reaction to this, especially the method you have of stopping occasionally and working through what you are seeing. I look forward to seeing the rest of your reaction to this marvelous trilogy. There is a lot to process because Tolkien wrote thousands of years of history before the events of the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit.
So the thing with the ring is that it corrupts people, but its ability to corrupt depends on the person’s power and desire for power. It almost seems that the Hobbits were created to destroy the ring because they don’t desire power and they don’t have much power. They can still be corrupted as you see, but for Hobbits, they are mostly enamored of its beauty rather than to have power for themselves, so they are more inclined to take it, and run and hide with it rather than try to become more than what they are because of it. Gandalf can’t take the ring because he happens to be one of the most powerful beings in Middle Earth, though he isn’t to use his power in a great way. He is there to influence events and advise rulers.
Because of their short stature, Hobbits are often referred to as “halflings”. (That’s what Saruman called them when he was talking to Gandalf: “Your love for the halflings…”) It’s not normally intended as a compliment. You will meet a people called the Rohirrim later in the trilogy. They first encountered the Hobbits hundreds of years ago and gave them the name Hobbit (actually “Holbitya” in their language) which means “hole builder”. Hobbits don’t normally go away to die. Bilbo’s leaving had more to do with the emotional pain of having the ring for many years. The elves gave him some comfort.
The writing on the ring is a kind of elvish. There is more than one elvish language. This is a corrupted version used by Sauron and his various minions. Mordor is mostly populated by orcs, bad knockoffs of elves that have been corrupted and twisted to evil by Sauron and his lord, Morgoth, before him.
The relationship between Frodo and Sam is that of friends, but also of a master and trusted servant. Sam’s family has long worked for the Bagginses as gardeners. It’s meant to mirror the kind of close friendship between a master and servant in old England. It’s a kind of relationship that’s lost on many people today, though we sense that they are friends albeit with a kind of leader/follower involved somehow.
I agree with everything :) But I want to add smt about Frodo and Sam - in the movie their charachters were shaped for the cinematic reasons and obviously brutaly flattened, so they showed it like Sam is meant to be as Frodo's caretaker and protector. But in the book their relation is a bit more complicated so there are moments when we can see that this caring is mutual. And as Frodo is older and more educated of those two Sam looks up to him for advice and thinks highly about his wisdom. Actualy Sam in the book thinks that beside Gandalf and Bilbo, Frodo is the wisest person he knows.
Lol good to see your taking notes , you're going to need them for this epic especially being unfamiliar with the books .
When Sauron was overthrown by Isildur, his spirit ( the part NOT entwined in the ring) was fired to flee and it took him thousands of years to regrow his strength enough to be able to re-establish himself. "The Hobbit" trilogy covers how he first manifested his new powers and attempted to change the balance of power in Middle Earth. Bilbo, aided in the thwarting of Saurons' ambition, and, yes, he (Bilbo) had found the ring by then, so ironically, in a sense, Sauron thwarted himself then.
26:00 Saruman said "Your love for the *halflings'* leaf has clearly slowed your mind". The name of "halflings" isn't particularly disrespectful to anyone, and it is often used as a substitute for "hobbit" (in the world of Middle Earth that is). Saruman was actually throwing shade at Gandalf's hobby of smoking pipe weed. I think the race of hobbits are probably beneath Saruman's notice in terms of consideration.
Fun Fact...... The Director of the lord of the rings does a cameo in each movie. In The fellowship of the rings, Peter turns around at the gate, as they enter in the rain before they go to the Bar.
Hope you can find his other cameos in the other movies! 😊
All the Canada references in this video are just sending me. 😂
Ohhhh I have been waiting for you to get to these. You have started an AMAZING journey!!
I'm only 13 minutes in and I'm already astounded how close attention you are paying and how accurately you're following the story and the names of the characters. "Why am I asking? No one is here." LoL You're adorable. Your laugher is also infectious. I'm definitely excited to find you and take this journey with you!
Sauron is basically a fallen angel, the Mordor people are called orcs or goblins (same thing in this world); the five wizards are also angels sent in the form of old men to guide but not use great power, Saruman has also fallen by now. The Victorians turned elves into tiny people; Tolkien was inspired by a much older idea of elves, elves that could pass as beautiful humans but more powerful. The ring pulls mortals into the spirit world, where others can't see them, but wraiths live in the spirit world and could see him better with it on.
Just to clarify, Gandalf knew that Bilbo had a ring, but he didn't know it was THE ONE ring until after he left it for Frodo.
Yeees! Love when people react to lord of the rings. Those movies are such a cinematic treasure.
Frodo Baggins, Meriadoc (Merry) Brandybuck and Peregrin (Pippin) Took (who are all related) are Shire gentry. Samwise Gamgee is a "commoner". That's why Sam usually refers to Frodo as "Mr. Frodo."
Sam is being Sam. No one is maltreating him. He carries his cook pack. Sam finds delight in cooking and sharing it. This is resolves in its small way, the logistics of the journey to Rivendel and adds character that sets him apart in a big way.
Wonderful to see how much attention to detail you have from the very beginning. I'm happy to help out wherever I can as I've been in love with this story for more than 65 years. Cheers!
Tolkien (the author of the book) was a linguist, and he first invenved a language (the Elven language) for fun, then decided that a proper language needs a history, then that a world with history needs a story, and so he wrote "Lord of the Rings" basically backwards. xD
The books are a bit hard to read (though that's what makes them unique) because they are full of invented historical and linguistic references. But they also basically created the modern fantasy genre (sometimes called "high fantasy" or epic fantasy to separate it from less complex fairy tales for younger audiences).
And, all the centuries that Gollum had the ring, he was deep underneath the mountains. That’s why everything doesn’t start happening again until Bilbo brings it back up into the world.
I love listening to you puzzle it out. You're doing great with so little background.
I didn't see anyone say it in the comments, but Gandalf and Saruman (and Sauron for that matter) are beings called Maiar, they are angels/minor gods, that existed before the world. Sauron took physical form to dominate the world, and Gandalf and Saruman were sent to take physical form and rally the people of middle earth against him.
Also yes, Sam is Frodo's servant in the books, his gardener. Tolkien uses their relationship as a form of class commentary, but the movies tried to make them seem like friends because the directors were concerned that people would not like Frodo if he treated Sam in the beginning as he did in the books (where Frodo eventually learns to respect and care for Sam a great deal).
your Lotr reaction is the only one I've seen twice, I love your analytical pauses and your commentary, im glad you watched the extended cut.
as much as I love these movies, one thing I personally always been annoyed with is that little extra scene in the intro with Isildur putting on the ring and turning invicible, one because it makes the moment Bilbo buts it on at the party is less surpising and with the power of the ring, I've always thought it was because the hobbits are quiet and have no desire for power is why they turn invisible when wearing it, and therefor Isildur shouldnt urn invisible. like Gandalf say: it would gain to much power from him. just my thoughts.
love your work!
To answer some questions at +/- 41:40. The script on the Ring is Elvish. The language is from Mordor. (Which is why Frodo did not understand it.) Mordor is where Sauron, (The Dark Lord resides, as a disembodied spirit in his re-built tower of Barad-dûr, also called the Dark Tower). "The big Library" is in Minas Tirith the "White" City, the Capital City of the Realm of Gondor; which Elendil founded in Middle Earth and whose son was Isildur (who took the Ring). (Lot of back story believe me!). The Mordor "people" are those under the dominion of Sauron. Orcs, men, trolls, and others who have succumbed to his power or he has warped by his will. Sauron is a fallen angel, as Gandalf is one who did not fall. Great job, love your notes, keep it up and relax and just enjoy the story too!
You are doing great at working out the plot as well as the mythology of Middle Earth.
You've done such a great job taking notes! I saw the movies before reading the books. Many say that is backwards but the books are a bit different. There is so much info, so many names, locations, kingdoms, species, etc.
Great reaction!
I knew I was gonna love your reaction when you were having such a good time watching Gandalf light fireworks off the carriage for the kids. So wholesome.
It felt like I was watching for the first time again with you. Thank you for that. Subscribed 💕
28:13 “The Nine” refers to the Nine Kings of Men who in the beginning of the movie were given rings of power. Yet they were corrupted by Sauron who had the “One Ring” and they became the Nazgûl or Ringwraiths (the hooded figures with Black cloaks).
If you watch The Hobbit movies or read the book, you'll find out how Bilbo Baggins came by the Ring, and how Gandalf knew about it. At the beginning of the movie, Gandalf already knows that Bilbo has A magic ring. He has always been uneasy about Bilbo's ring, but he isn't sure about its identity. Notice when Gandalf first meets Bilbo, he says, "One hundred and eleven years. You haven't aged a day!" and gives him a hard look. That's significant, because only the Great Rings give long life. But Bilbo comes from a long-lived family (on his mother's side), so Gandalf still isn't sure. It isn't until he makes his quick trip to Minas Tirith and finds Isildur's account of the finding of the One Ring that he discovers the fiery inscription that appears when the ring is heated. It is only at that point that he is sure that this is THE One Ring.
Hobbiton is actually in New Zealand and it’s still here today.. all of the scenery is New Zealand landscapes..
Loving the reaction so far! I hope that you are enjoying watching these films as much as we are enjoying your reactions!
When Gandalf saw the flaming eye in Saruman's tower, it is because he momentarily made contact with the seeing stone, known as a Palantir. Think of it as a sort of crystal ball - it shows you things, and allows you to communicate with others who also possess a Palantir.
It is hinted at in both the film and the original books that Saruman's descent into madness and evil was caused by his use of the Palantir - Sauron used it to get into Saruman's head and corrupt him, causing him to believe that Sauron was unstoppable, and that only by joining with him could Middle Earth avoid total destruction.
Gandalf knew Bilbo had "A" ring (possibly one of the dwarf rings from earlier), but he didn't know Bilbo had "THE" ring.
I had so much fun with this! The funniest part to me was when you said "It's 3 1/2 hours long I'll definitely need a break" 😅 I had a chuckle at that and knew: 'you're not going anywhere' 😂
How Bilbo got the ring is in the book The Hobbit. It tells all sorts of things that it would be good to know before the Lord of the Rings starts.
38:35 Sam is a gardener a 'yeoman' for lack of a better term , where as Frodo is a Baggins who are 'country squires' again for the lack of a better term . Hobbit society is an idealised form of English rural life .
The Shire is the name of the land where the Hobbits live. Hobbiton is the name of the town / village where Bilbo and Frodo lives. Bagend (Bag-end) is the name of the "house" they live in 😊
So fun to watch your sharp mind unravel the complex backstory of this beautiful epic with minimal cues.
I was so excited to see you're reacting to these. I knew you'd be a reactor who would pay attention and make connections. This was great. I'm sure everyone else has already answered all your questions. Looking forward to the rest.
29:47 Frodo says, "It's some form of Elvish, I can't read it." Frodo knows the Elven language Sindarin. The elves write using Tengwar runes (created by Galadriel's uncle Fëanor), and Sauron (or possibly Morgoth) decided to use them as well. However, the inscription on the ring is in Black Speech, not Sindarin - or Quenya.
Sam was Bilbo's gardener and Frodo's friend. The Nazgul are servants of Suaron. Sauron can see Frodo when he puts the ring on. As his servants, the Nazgul can also see Frodo when he wears the ring. They can only sense the presence of the ring when he is not wearing it.