Timestamps: 0:00 Chinatown-Rose Pak Station 1:01 Union Square Station 3:16 Yerba Buena/Moscone Station 5:00 Exiting the tunnel/Start of Street-level section 6:14 Fourth/Brannan
The line opened in November as a weekend-only shuttle between Chinatown and Brannan Street. The 1/7 date is when it’s integrated to the rest of the T line service.
Trains in the subway go 40-70 MPH… the whole light rail has like 8mph average across the system. That alone shows how inefficient our street level service is. That’s why although it was $2b it was worth it to have trains go at those speeds with no surface interference. There’s plans to update the control system that should improve signal timing and headway management.
This is the problem with light rails. They are a mix of trams and rapid transit but the trams aspect seems so much more leaned towards. If only we could just take the time to instead build trains with fully dedicated right of ways instead of sharing with slow cars
@@anthonysnyder1152 At the one section that the car went up to 47-48mph, you can see the driver's head bobbing left and right... This is brand new $2B track, and the cars are new as well. I am in full support of building/upgrading transit infrastructure, but shouldn't the quality be significantly greater for this kind of money?
The speed of these vehicles is pathetic, even in the subway they never seem to go above 30 and mainly seem to run at 10/15, then down to 8 on the access ramps. The fact that there is street running shouldn't hamper their speed as the buses have no problem on the adjacent lanes. Take a leaf from German systems to see efficient street and subway tram systems
they run from 45-49mph between chinatown and union square, and 35-30 between union and yerba buena. Probably because the subway is super small, but those are higher speeds then the buses no matter what
You can see the speeds. They have to slow when entering stations. I think they could have spaced the station out a bit and covered more distance to allow the trains to reach max 55 mph speeds. Also the S curve around union square slows the train down for safety reasons. All in all, it beats the street running sections a landslide. And that’s not hard to beat because the T is already notoriously slow…
![[4K] San Francisco Scenic Ride: Muni Metro Subway T from 4th & King to Chinatown Central Station](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/zcxQYa3nmA4/mqdefault.jpg)
pretty solid video for shooting through a window. At first I thought you were in the cab with the driver haha
Thanks. I hope I were in the cab for sure 😃
Timestamps:
0:00 Chinatown-Rose Pak Station
1:01 Union Square Station
3:16 Yerba Buena/Moscone Station
5:00 Exiting the tunnel/Start of Street-level section
6:14 Fourth/Brannan
Calgary Transit Bus CAD being used in the same train series we have is just funny.
amazing!
Muni?
How many entrances are there for Chinatown Station? How does this connects to Powell Station? Do Need to go up and down to transfer to N L k M? Thanks
Only one entrance at Chinatown.
Yes, need to go up and down to transfer to the existing Market Street Subway trains.
It connects to powell, I've seen it.
2-4 minute transfer
@@m0istl0la97Usually takes trains 5-20 minutes to even arrive to Union square- market street station.
Short but sweet! And a very long time in coming too!
How are all these people present if this line didn't open until 1/7/2023?
The line opened in November as a weekend-only shuttle between Chinatown and Brannan Street. The 1/7 date is when it’s integrated to the rest of the T line service.
@@YuqiLinux is your train under ATCS control?
@@johnmarks714 Based on public information it should be ATCS-controlled www.sfmta.com/blog/central-subway-testing-anticipates-2022-start-service
@@YuqiLinux you drive these trains. Isnt there some indicator that says your train is under ATCS?
@@johnmarks714 I’m not a train driver. I’m just a railroad fan standing in the passenger cabin.
Why are Amrtican Trams and Lightrails so slow ^^
Because many of them don't get the right of way and have to wait for traffic lights?
Trains in the subway go 40-70 MPH… the whole light rail has like 8mph average across the system. That alone shows how inefficient our street level service is. That’s why although it was $2b it was worth it to have trains go at those speeds with no surface interference. There’s plans to update the control system that should improve signal timing and headway management.
This is the problem with light rails. They are a mix of trams and rapid transit but the trams aspect seems so much more leaned towards. If only we could just take the time to instead build trains with fully dedicated right of ways instead of sharing with slow cars
@@readyredpanda127 But in Germany and other Countrys works too , i think its an American problem ^^
@@anthonysnyder1152 At the one section that the car went up to 47-48mph, you can see the driver's head bobbing left and right... This is brand new $2B track, and the cars are new as well. I am in full support of building/upgrading transit infrastructure, but shouldn't the quality be significantly greater for this kind of money?
The speed of these vehicles is pathetic, even in the subway they never seem to go above 30 and mainly seem to run at 10/15, then down to 8 on the access ramps. The fact that there is street running shouldn't hamper their speed as the buses have no problem on the adjacent lanes. Take a leaf from German systems to see efficient street and subway tram systems
they run from 45-49mph between chinatown and union square, and 35-30 between union and yerba buena. Probably because the subway is super small, but those are higher speeds then the buses no matter what
You can see the speeds. They have to slow when entering stations. I think they could have spaced the station out a bit and covered more distance to allow the trains to reach max 55 mph speeds. Also the S curve around union square slows the train down for safety reasons. All in all, it beats the street running sections a landslide. And that’s not hard to beat because the T is already notoriously slow…
Well comparatively speaking, it's still *much* faster than the bus-equivalent Route 30 that used to serve the corridor.