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hey simon, hope you notice this comment. i have been wondering what ever happened to callum, aka the real OG writer of this channel? he kinda disappeared over night at some point. edit: nevermind, just noticed you answered this literally under the next comment lol :D
I wonder what happened to him, his writing was amazing. Not taking away from the other writers because they are fantastic too I just really liked his sense of humour in his stories.
I went to DC on a school field trip shortly after he was caught. We spent a few hours in the FBI building doing tours and such. The Agent giving our group a tour was excited to show us a display of Unabomber stuff they had just built. I think he was just sentenced recently, so they had some of the actual bomb fragments and letters in a display. Several of us started asking about the bomb in different ways that the Agent answered, saying he couldn't go too in depth. So we asked a different question with the same theme. And that's how a group of middle schoolers learned how to make pipe bombs from an FBI agent.
I had an employee, 23 years old, come to work dressed in a pulled up hoodie and sunglasses, and I said, "Who are you, the Unibomber?" He had no idea what I was talking about! Several other employees, similar age, were also confused. When I tried to explain the story they were shocked that something like that actually happened. We googled the facts, and they were all just astonished, like it was a movie come to life. Blew the poor kids minds. On the other hand, my mind was blown that seemingly a whole generation had not heard of Ted Kasinsky.
This is insane to me. Not knowing about the unibomber is like not knowing about the Vietnam war. A big event that has had a bunch of news and pop culture references. Mind-blowing.
@@ameldell5180 I'm just hearing a good argument for @thecasualcriminalist to do more well known stories since not everyone knows them. Also, the way the writers sift through the truth and myths is a good way to learn about some of these crimes.
@@thedrinkinggames9573 sure, especially since even Simon finds out that some of the « common knowledge » about these crimes is wrong or highly exagerated by the media almost every time…
When I was a teenager (decades ago), I had a friend who was fascinated with rockets and explosives. He kept the local PD hopping for several years. He would do things like setting off a small explosive on the river bank, waiting for the police to leave, then going back and measuring the size of the crater to see how effective his bomb had been. He was still in high school, and got caught the day he launched a small rocket using the chimney of his parent's house. I often wonder what happened to him. A career in the military as an explosives specialist would have suited him perfectly :)
People think those are the psychopaths but more often than not...they are the brilliant minds that male up the face of science and Healthcare. This kind of neurotic thinking is not bad...minds like his is what brought us to where we are today. It only matters what they do with it.
@@haleyguthrie3113 JPL was founded when some idiots made rocket fuel in their dorm rooms and got a bunch of governmental funding and a ranch in the countryside to do more stupid shit until we have a thriving research facility.
Or either a demolition guy or perhaps even a bomb tech. Or maybe a rocket scientist, or a chemist (amateur or otherwise, ever see explosionsandfire's channel?)
@@jmanj3917 we don't have to hope. Most of these people turn out just fine. Which is why torture and death of animals for fun in childhood is a larger threat.
Reporter: “When the unabomber was arrested and his cabin was searched, police didn’t find any hoodies or mirrored sunglasses. Your sketch shows him wearing both items.” Sketch artist: “Yeah… I added those cause I can’t draw hair and eyes very good.” Reporter: “What about the fact that he had a beard? Your sketch shows him clean shaven.” Sketch artist: “I did that cause I can’t draw beards very good.”
When Simon was trying to think of the word acronym, I blanked for several seconds thinking of the word myself. Best sentiment involving the Unabomber is that it was good that he was a mathematician and not a biologist or chemist.
Jesus imagine that. And some bio and chemical weapons are not that hard to make of you have a PHD in the field and access to a lab. Imagine if he made anthrax. The underlying bacterium is easily acquired.
I was listening to this on Spotify on my morning commute and right after Simon describes the first bomb going off an 18 wheeler (lorry) in the next lane had a tire blowout. For half a second, I thought there were some cool new sound effects and that CC was getting more intense. The truck was okay, no one was hurt, but it certainly added some excitement..
The weird thing is... They wouldn't let him represent himself, declaring him unfit despite being a genius, calm, and very prepared. They were afraid he would be able to convince the jury he was justified.
He would have, because he was. Shouldn't have gotten the innocent people he did, but overall from a broad point of view, he was 100% correct, objectively.
@@crimsonking440 Crazy sure, but he was highly intelligent, and he was fit to represent himself. He did not get a fair trial as described by law, and that's really all there is to it. They were afraid he'd be able to convince a jury he was justified, so they made sure he was unable to speak.
@@jakedavis7916 who said he was crazy? The government sure, but he would not have been able to orchestrate his plan if he were insane. He may have been misguided, but his message was one which resonates now more than it did then. Sure his method of addressing the problem of tech running our lives was heavily flawed, and highly illegal, but if Darrell Brooks can represent himself, Ted should have been afforded his right to defend himself.
For future reference, Simon, it's an acronym when you use the first letter of the major words (like FBI) and a portmanteau when you use longer portions of separate words (like unabom).
It's actually an initialism, not an acronym. Acronyms take the first letter of each word to make a new word (like NASA). When it's an initialism you pronounce the first letter of each word.
All I can say is , I knew unabomber wasn't quite an acronym , I just couldn't remember the word portmanteau (school was a long time ago) so I appreciate this post.
I’m a systems engineer….. specializing in metrology equipment and component level circuit troubleshooting/calibration. So technology is my life. Cutting edge electronics and equipment used to help advance science every day. However…… I read ted’s “manuscript” A few times over the last decade and it’s uncanny how coherent and well argued his views are. Technology is not simply a job for me….. it’s also a passion and hobby. I Built a professional lab in my backyard and its where I spend all my time. Both professional and fun/hobby time. So I was kind of surprised when I agreed with a lot of his viewpoints.
I agree with you. I was surprised with how many of his points I agreed. I'm a female with a PhD in info science. I'm not quite a tech person - I researched the intersection of technology and humans, but I'm familiar enough with tech, tech development, and the history of various technologies. Based on the media's descriptions of the manifesto, I thought it would be all kinds of crazy and unintelligible, but I was wrong. You don't have to agree with him, but he should have found ways (like write a book, Ted?) to bring his views to the public without bombing people.
I think that's what surprises most people. He wasn't a raving lunatic, he had ideas and convictions. It's weird to think how things would have turned out if he had simply published his manifesto as a book and given public talks, instead of becoming a terrorist
The thing to remember is that tech in and of itself isn't good or bad. It's a tool. People use tools for good. People use tools for bad. Nothing involving humans is going to be perfect. The Unabomber's problem is that he blamed technology for problems instead of human nature.
From what I've heard and read of the mailing side of this was him testing if the bomb would survive intact transit through the mail. Hence logically testing couldn't mimic the unknown transit variable.
not only that, but he wouldn't be endangering himself in the testing, and the inevitable police investigations would be able to uncover points of weakness in his designs. It's actually fairly clever.
My mom's first husband was briefly suspected of being the Unabomber. It started after the bombing at the computer store in Salt Lake City, where they were living. He was someone who moved around and travelled a lot, and he had, by sheer coincidence, been in every other city a bombing took place around the time of each bombing. He also had a criminal record, that included using a homemade explosive to attempt to escape from some facility as a juvenile. He also had a very vague resemblance to the famous sketch, and that was enough for them to follow him and my mom for about a month. They eventually brought him in to give handwriting samples, and lost interest in him after that. My mom wishes they had just started with that, and spared them all the stress of being under suspicion. This has been a fun thing to go over with her, even though it was far from a fun time in her life when it was happening, so thank you Simon, Jen and co. for making this, looking forward to part 2!
In my younger days I rub shoulders with somebody who made the shortlist for the Unabomber. I don't know what he had done in his past to have made the list though. He was very smart though
University hospitals tend to be pretty good here in America Simon. They sit alongside some of the best medical schools in the country, and typically speaking, do better research and treatment, especially for cancers and other diseases. Here in North Carolina, people with serious illnesses and injuries get sent to Duke University and the University of North Carolina for specialized hospital care every day. They were more than prepared to treat David Gelernter.
I remember the whole mishigas of the Unabomber in the news, and this is still one of the most thorough pieces on the Unabomber I've heard. Way to get subscribers, Simon, leaving it there with his brother! Probably a thousand new subscribers have joined just to be sure and hear part two.
Mishigas. Love that word. Haven’t seen it in a while. Then again I think I’m the only person my age (25) who even knows the word Mishigas. My parents are older and from Long Island. So know a lot of weird words XD
Simon, I dont think the point of the first few packages was to test the bombs. I feel like the point of those were to test the investigators. ie. send some small explosive devices that are enough to cause minor injury, nothing excessive, but enough to warrant an investigation to test the skills of the authorities. If you do get caught, there are no deaths to your name. If not, you're all good to proceed. That's just my opinion of how it came across to me
I remember seeing a thing on social media about how a person was doing an academic paper and went to source some method they used, and found that it was created by this man.
Simon: How did he know the Unabomber was male? Earlier: Even though the picture isn't included in my transcript, I know what the picture looks like because it's the most famous police sketch in history.
The awesome thing about this show is seeing people's personalities. Between the different writers writing themselves and Simon into the script, Simon's random tangents, and of course Jens edits. It truly feels like 3 people making a piece of entertainment together.
@@BigDawgRey95 close enough to hear a large exposition but also have no idea where it came from. Given it's in the woods, I don't think the neighbors would immediately go to 'testing a bomb'. From that far away they could mistake it for a shotgun going off nearer to them or any number of things.
Simon: "is it an anagram?" Me: "dude it's not an anagram it's a.... uh... " Simon: "I'm dumb and people are probably screaming at their phones right now." Me (screaming at my phone): "why is the word anagram stuck in my head and now I can't think of the right one?????"
"Why was it a man? Why couldn't it be a woman?" - Simon Did you forget the eye witness sketch of the Unibomber 5 years prior that clearly portrays that he was a man (mustache)?
because a fake mustache wasn't invented until 2021, right? lmao oh, and if you'd watch any of his crime related videos you'd know that eye witnesses are about as unreliable as it gets. soooo yea
When I consulted a neuropsychologist to get my IQ tested, she explained to me that having an IQ over 145 made living in society really difficult. With an IQ of 167, Unabomber exemplifies what she explained to me. He lived reclused. He tested his devices through mail so he would not draw attention. He knew he would all the information he needed through newspapers.
I love how giddy Simon gets about the coming reveals in this one. Also his struggle to follow the script without spoiling anything out of sequence. 😄 Bless you, Simon. You're the best.
There are a set of books called the Prey series about serial killers. The first book is called Rules of Prey where the killer gives his rules to not get caught as he murdered.
In reference to the wood/ED theory, I don't think it was a case of simple juvenile thinking. I believe they purposefully associate unknown suspects to typically embarrassing or shameful ideas as a way to upset said suspect & hopefully prompt them to make a mistake &/or reveal themselves. Basically, they're trying to trigger the suspect
I don't believe.. the "Ed theory " was public knowledge.. so it wouldn't reach him.. its more likely the idea of wood and at that point is bombs were maiming or disabling people at this point.. not killing.. like people with ed feel disabled..
I think it’s safe to say if Simon turns to the dark side he’d be the most dangerous and unsolvable criminal in the world and would never get caught lol
Think bigger ... He could already be right now. He's wearing a skin cap, the beard is fake as well, he doesn't wear glasses and in fact has 20/20 eyesight, and he isn't actually British .
I was just scrolling through Netflix. Saw a Unabomber documentary and thought "I should really learn more about the Unabomber, but I don't really know if I'll like this documentary." Switched over to RUclips and saw this video and knew I'd enjoy it. :)
i wish u mentioned how penthouse was the first place to offer to publish the manifesto but he sent a letter saying he wanted someone more credable and said new york times
I lived through a serial bombing here in town, the Austin Bomber. The first bomb went off in an area I frequented. They ended up killing him near my childhood home. I was on site that day after he was killed, saw all the feds and everything else
I was at university at this time. Even though we were in Canada, we were extraordinarily careful about any packages or boxes out of place. And we never left our backpacks sitting around, just in case someone thought it was suspicious and decide to blow them up!
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I wonder if there are other investigations that cost more but don't count, like mafia investigations etc, since they're targeting more than one individual
@@CaraRowen: I don't really consider the time before personal computers to be all that "modern" especially since modern times are typically the here and now.
His manifesto “Industrial Society and Its Future” is available on YT in audiobook form… it’s worth a listen. Personally, I agree with pretty much everything he says
The mere existence of a serial bomber would encourage copycats. I don't think "giving into his demands," which weren't anything particularly glamorous, would necessarily increase the likelihood of copycats. And even if it would, you have to weigh that against the potential benefits of publishing the letters. Either he would hold true to his word and stop killing people, at which point you've saved lives, or you could use the published letters to gain information and catch him. I think both of those very real possibilities clearly outweigh the hypothetical "precedent" you were talking about. You have to save lives now in the one way you know you can.
We love Simon but bless his forgetting things at times. Him going on that huge rant of "How did they know the Unabomber was a man?" and then concluding that it has to do with the fact that women tend to prefer less violent methodology, like poison. Simon... Did you already forget the uber famous sketch? Ya know? The one where a MAN was seen planting one of the Unabomber's bombs?
This was such a creepy time in my childhood. All the adults all freaked out about packages and I remember all the neighborhood kids being under strict parental orders not to touch any packages etc. Was weird times.
I mean the hard part is the detonater and timer if there is one, adding more or less explosives seems trivial. If you're already making them why not make a bigger batch.
I feel like Teddy is right in a lot of things... but idk it is just a bit sad to see just another someone without the enough strength of following the path himself wrote in the manifesto, he did the "easiest" first self-destructive step "for exposure". An existential change in any society for sure is not gonna be achieved by a lone man in a cabin sending pipebombs... But by building self-sufficient communities morally around that set of believes, finding friends, partner and having kids, just like he wrote.
Jup. And he certainly had the smarts and charms to do this in a non violent way. Instead he ruined any chance of him actually being taken seriously. He should have written a book instead.
I hope this helps Simon. F.b.i= generally domestic crime C.i.a.= generally international A.t.f. only call themselves that because they wanted to be a 3 letter acronym. They are actually the B.a.t.f.e. standing for bureau of alcohol tobacco firearms and explosives And the most confusing thing for Americans is our C.P.S is child protection services. Love your videos brother.
@@watergames8449 that would make sense but in the US the bureau of alcohol tobacco firearms and explosives didn't like that other agencies had a 3 letter acronym like FBI, CIA, DOD, DHS etc so they shortened their initials to ATF for alcohol tobacco firearms.
@@watergames8449 yeah except they are know for really questionable things. There is a plethora of actually illegal things they do but look up ruby ridge and their involvement in wako Texas. Those are the well known questionable things they've done
Sometimes, it easy to rail against mass surveillance, and generally i will myself, but at the same time, things like the unabomber cant happen anymore with them being recorded and caught pretty damn quick. I think I'm ok with mass surveillance of public and government places, not to mention surveillance on private property by the owners, like a business, but it's the NSA digging into our private emails, texts, calls, ect where I think it goes too far. There are big differences between these 2 scenarios.
You know the guys a genius when his manifesto is available in audiobook format, right here on RUclips. I bet he loves that lol. PS this notebook hasn't been 6 months in the making its been more like a year. In fact I think scientists have spent less time trying to make a working fusion reactor. Its so damn legendary that when it finally comes out I'm definitely going to get one.
@@gregbors8364 I've had that issue a lot, I think in one case its because the channel can hold comments for reviews but I've had that happen quite a bit where they just disappeared for no reason. I don't think in this case its related to the subject of the comment and I say that because Simon makes very similar points all throughout the video. The truth is I wasn't saying this to be edgy I actually want to listen to this audiobook, I think I would share a lot of the same views though absolutely not the methods. With Ted's intellect he could have put that in a book, reached many more people and would have had a much bigger impact. His error was subverting his message with violence.
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@@221b-l3t Ugh I hate RUclips, I really do. They block free speech, somehow the US 1st Amendment doesn't apply to them and there is a community that I'm heavily involved in, Tobacco Harm Reduction/ vaping and YT classes it the same they do for dangerous activities and drug use even though its scientifically proven to be safer than smoking. So anyone who makes a video related to it sees it get demonitized immediately and they will never show up in anyone's feed. At the end of the day YT hides that content from smokers who need it the most and they do it because public opinion of it is negative, not based on facts. Unfortunately there is no viable alternative so we're all stuck on this sh*tty platform. YT are c*nts too IMO.
Amongst his ravings, he has some disturbingly accurate and troubling points. I think that if he had been within the normal intellectual circles and had maintained his calm, careful demeanor he could have been a revolutionary voice instead of a crazy criminal.
People who propose radical changes to society are effectively silenced. For instance, (not to be egotistical here) my first comment on this thread was deleted
I’m old enough to remember the appeals to the public, and it was surreal. I think one factor in deciding to publish his manifesto was that there had already been so much data shared about the guy that it wasn’t that big a step; I remember Reader’s Digest doing a story detailing all this, begging for help. It was everywhere
It's pretty wild that almost everything he said in that manifesto has come true. I listened to it the other night after watching this vid by Simon and it's nostradamus levels of spooky...
I would normally agree that it's very possible thay they would be setting a dangerous precident by giving the terrorists what they want, but I dont think it matters in this case for one simple reason. In the mass surveillance present, the unabomber wouldn't be able to exisit, at least not in the same way he did. He would have been recorded so many times if he had done this in present day, and would have been caught incredibly quick.
If all you have to go on is a hoodied man, you're in no way faster today than back then. Also it didn't put a precident because people demanding change don't seem to have the necessary patience required for it. Furthermore putting your manifesto out is a lot easier today and newspapers have long since lost a lot of their influence. They have basically returned to an interest group newsletter where you'll reach a specific circle of people. That being said I'd guess that since cash is going out of fashion and local shops get closed more often, that tracing material required for bombs became increasingly easier since then. That being said we'll still have problems catching anyone before their first victim.
I remember this back in my childhood, but I had no idea he had been doing it for so long. The name just popped up one day in my life, can't remember how and it seemed like that was the start of it all, not just the ending. It DID set a precedent. It showed that having a paper like that published is a way to get yourself caught. As for why they assumed it was a guy...they have a sketch, remember?
Gosh darn just gonna say it: Jen I love your work! I believe you are an amazing person and you always make me laugh. Thank you. Ofcourse Simon is awesome as well, it's the way you complement eachother that keeps me returning here.
He was a wise man. Unlike the average people who claim they are. I mean think about it no finger prints, building it from scratch, avoiding government surveillance. Brilliant mind but sadly wasted.
Sort of agree…he was meticulous and apparently mathematically gifted, but the whole plan was foolish to the point of stupidity. To think that “I know how to change huge societal trends like the growth of useful technologies….I will murder a handful of people, or maybe innocent strangers, as a way to get attention for my angry rant…and everyone will agree with it and instantly abandon cars, computers, phones and modern medicine.” Delusional to think a single individual can essentially threaten the world into historic societal changes, making the whole scheme pointless in addition to vicious.
I love how we get to know your personalities on this channel. Yours, Jen's and the writers you feature are all funny and interesting. I love this team storytelling!
Not sure if Simon checks out the comments for suggested cases. However, in the off chance he does, might I suggest *Pedro Rodrigues Filho* , who is sometimes referred to as the "Brazilian Dexter"? Though, in my opinion, it would be more accurate to call him "Real Life Punisher". While the case is horrific, I think it's made a tad bit more tolerable by who the victims are. Plus, I feel Simon would find his story quite interesting.... especially his post serial killer career. 😉😉
Super late comment and may have been answered already, but the reason they didn’t put the package at @7:30 into the mailbox and instead called security is because it is a federal offense in the United States to grab another person’s mail, or to place things into mailboxes that aren’t yours if you’re not a postal worker. As far as my googling can get me, it has been illegal since ~1948? Which would predate the Unabomber.
Simon has a short memory. Simon, they knew he was a man, because they had that famous skecth. Ya know, the one you talked about 10 minutes prior to wondering how they knew the unabomber was a man, lol. The half of all men thing i think was based on age. They were assuming he was older, based on that FBI woman's theory.
I’m still surprised that we’re yet to have seen a true serial bomber that uses drones… it would be so easy to use AI/facial recognition to target specific people as well… I mean I hope it doesn’t happen, but I’m shocked it hasn’t already.
They can't carry much of a payload. However a drone with cannister of say ricin and a small charge to burst it... ouch. Okay better stop giving criminals idea.
I imagine it requires a lot more effort and is easier for authorities to track. So doing it serially might be hard but it is scary to think about how many people have drones that can watch or carry whatever they want.
@@jackprice4959 idk… there are software/libraries that are freely available that with minor modification could be used to train drones to shoot guns at a target, and even specific targets based on crowd facial recognition. But you would need to pull together large amounts of video/photographic data of the target (which is possible if the target is a celebrity / politician etc) - but if you just wanted to turn a drone into an autonomous flying bomb that waits until an event starts… I’m pretty sure you could do it.
Wait just a minute . I've been receiving obscene phone calls from someone calling himself Z3 🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣 *Kidding of course 🤣 *Also ; I sometimes think they include impotence in their public profiles to kind of goad the suspect into firing off of an ill judged reply that might give away some thing about themselves. I know it sounds kind of schoolyardish but when you're running short of ideas desperation probably takes over 🤔🤣 *Without spoiling anything I think the precedent it set was making people realize that if their own personal relationships can backfire that way unless you're under a certain age it's already too late to do anything about the evidence unless you're really willing to make an ultimate sacrifice if you know what I mean. Hint hint wink wink try not to spoil anything for anyone who doesn't know the story already
I think you're right regarding the risk of publishing manifestos like that Simon. Seemingly being, wouldn't this create a precedent of getting attention and a voice brought to crazy rantings or basically leading to a threat like "Publish my works or I'll do ..."
Not a fan of stories being broken up into multiple parts, but I also get that this is a longer one. I actually never realized the Unabomber had so many victims. For some reason I remember it only being a couple and the difficulties with trying to work out his unhinged motives. It's interesting seeing the timeline laid out more thoroughly. I do hate how his intellect is played up so heavily. I feel people who turn to violence against the innocent to force the changes they want to see are showing in the most abhorrent way possible their own inability to convey the message they seem so convinced is a solution. If you think sending bombs to random teachers is a better way to get academia's attention than, I don't know, just righting a fucking essay on a subject, you're an idiot.
I really agree with you on this. It's actually really bizarre to me that people play up his intellect so much. Let's be clear, Ted Kaczynski is not a sociologist, a psychologist, or a historian. Sure, I won't disagree that he is an intelligent person in some capacity, but like... Have you ever tried to read his manifesto? Not listen to it in audio form, actually sit down and read it and digest it paragraph by paragraph. I got halfway through it and was so sick of his rambling, armchair psychology that I just had to stop. It honestly comes across as the ranting of a narcissistic, psychopathic neonazi with a god complex. And yes, I said neonazi. I don't care that Ted Kaczynski claims that he doesn't like nazis. There's a reason that nazis like him. You can't say shit like "Leftists are antagonistic to genetic explanations of human abilities or behavior because such explanations tend to make some persons appear superior or inferior to others" and "Feminists are desperately anxious to prove that women are as strong and as capable as men. Clearly they are nagged by a fear that women may NOT be as strong and as capable as men" and not expect to attract nazis. But I guess most people just conveniently miss those parts of the third section. I'm sorry if that came across as a bit hostile. I just stopped reading his manifesto about 30 minutes ago and I'm a bit exasperated after spending hours reading the armchair psychology of a wannabe philosopher who's actually just a serial killer.
Except he *was* brilliant in certain ways. There are different types of intelligence. His didn't include interacting with human beings. Speaking as someone on the autism spectrum, I spent a *lot* of my life violently frustrated at my own inability to communicate effectively with others. Never to the point of building a bomb or anything, but I did get into fights. I've gotten better, thanks in large part to having a supportive family with a strong emphasis on communication. Not everyone has that background or the willingness to work on their own failings.
Is it just me, or does a college professor named Diogenes seem sort of like a character in a fictional novel? I guess, with a name like that, you pretty much have to end up being a professor, or something equivalent. Lol.
His methods were wrong. Bombings and murder are never going to be an effective way to achieve a goal. But the things Theodore Kaczynski wrote are pretty spot on in a lot of ways.
@@rich9684 Exactly! I see pepole saying how spot on he is, but even if some of his points are not completely wrong, he seemed to make the mistake of not providing any viable solutions, just said that we should go backwards... That really makes him lose 'genius points' and credibility in my eyes.
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Simon! you bastitch LOL... a two parter??hurry up and post part two... LOL
Don’t make us wait too long!!
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hey simon, hope you notice this comment. i have been wondering what ever happened to callum, aka the real OG writer of this channel? he kinda disappeared over night at some point.
edit: nevermind, just noticed you answered this literally under the next comment lol :D
Acronym! Love your videos btw.
I'm glad that even after Callums unfortunate "disappearance" (don't look in the basement) the show has still maintained a fantastic level of quality.
Still miss him tho
I wonder what happened to him, his writing was amazing. Not taking away from the other writers because they are fantastic too I just really liked his sense of humour in his stories.
Thanks :)
I've heard he's living in the woods in Montana.
Allegedly.
@@TheCasualCriminalist unabomber 2.0?
I went to DC on a school field trip shortly after he was caught. We spent a few hours in the FBI building doing tours and such. The Agent giving our group a tour was excited to show us a display of Unabomber stuff they had just built. I think he was just sentenced recently, so they had some of the actual bomb fragments and letters in a display. Several of us started asking about the bomb in different ways that the Agent answered, saying he couldn't go too in depth. So we asked a different question with the same theme.
And that's how a group of middle schoolers learned how to make pipe bombs from an FBI agent.
Chaotic neutral confirmed.
@@willbrown5197 and answering that is how you definitely end up on a FBI or ATFE watchlist.
@@atashgallagher5139 You win the comments section, good sir 🤣🤘🏻
Yikes. A lot of school shooters did research 2
@@Cate7451 you're being a fun-sucker.
I had an employee, 23 years old, come to work dressed in a pulled up hoodie and sunglasses, and I said, "Who are you, the Unibomber?" He had no idea what I was talking about! Several other employees, similar age, were also confused. When I tried to explain the story they were shocked that something like that actually happened. We googled the facts, and they were all just astonished, like it was a movie come to life. Blew the poor kids minds. On the other hand, my mind was blown that seemingly a whole generation had not heard of Ted Kasinsky.
This is insane to me. Not knowing about the unibomber is like not knowing about the Vietnam war. A big event that has had a bunch of news and pop culture references. Mind-blowing.
@@thedrinkinggames9573 Only one of them recognized the infamous sketch, but had no context for it, just a vague "FBI most wanted" sort of memory.
I had no idea he existed either before this episode. Sorry
@@ameldell5180 I'm just hearing a good argument for @thecasualcriminalist to do more well known stories since not everyone knows them. Also, the way the writers sift through the truth and myths is a good way to learn about some of these crimes.
@@thedrinkinggames9573 sure, especially since even Simon finds out that some of the « common knowledge » about these crimes is wrong or highly exagerated by the media almost every time…
You should 1000% put the FBI hat on any time the FBI become involved in a case.
really when does he take a nazi and drill his asshole like a bitch
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I had no idea how much I needed to see that; until now... 😂
When I was a teenager (decades ago), I had a friend who was fascinated with rockets and explosives. He kept the local PD hopping for several years. He would do things like setting off a small explosive on the river bank, waiting for the police to leave, then going back and measuring the size of the crater to see how effective his bomb had been. He was still in high school, and got caught the day he launched a small rocket using the chimney of his parent's house. I often wonder what happened to him. A career in the military as an explosives specialist would have suited him perfectly :)
People think those are the psychopaths but more often than not...they are the brilliant minds that male up the face of science and Healthcare.
This kind of neurotic thinking is not bad...minds like his is what brought us to where we are today.
It only matters what they do with it.
We can only hope that he had enough positive influences, and had them early enough in life to be able to put that genius mind to constructive use.
@@haleyguthrie3113 JPL was founded when some idiots made rocket fuel in their dorm rooms and got a bunch of governmental funding and a ranch in the countryside to do more stupid shit until we have a thriving research facility.
Or either a demolition guy or perhaps even a bomb tech. Or maybe a rocket scientist, or a chemist (amateur or otherwise, ever see explosionsandfire's channel?)
@@jmanj3917 we don't have to hope. Most of these people turn out just fine. Which is why torture and death of animals for fun in childhood is a larger threat.
Reporter: “When the unabomber was arrested and his cabin was searched, police didn’t find any hoodies or mirrored sunglasses. Your sketch shows him wearing both items.”
Sketch artist: “Yeah… I added those cause I can’t draw hair and eyes very good.”
Reporter: “What about the fact that he had a beard? Your sketch shows him clean shaven.”
Sketch artist: “I did that cause I can’t draw beards very good.”
One of Norm’s more underrated sketches
When Simon was trying to think of the word acronym, I blanked for several seconds thinking of the word myself.
Best sentiment involving the Unabomber is that it was good that he was a mathematician and not a biologist or chemist.
Jesus imagine that. And some bio and chemical weapons are not that hard to make of you have a PHD in the field and access to a lab. Imagine if he made anthrax. The underlying bacterium is easily acquired.
It is acronym. Bur fbi is not an acronym because you don't say it as a word. Fbi is an initialism.
@@tikkigodman To complicate matters, technically an initialism is just a specific type of acronym...
@@tr_mumford Good one!
I did the same.
Simon's chuckle of joy at putting on an FBI hat is the cherry on top of my day.
I was listening to this on Spotify on my morning commute and right after Simon describes the first bomb going off an 18 wheeler (lorry) in the next lane had a tire blowout. For half a second, I thought there were some cool new sound effects and that CC was getting more intense. The truck was okay, no one was hurt, but it certainly added some excitement..
Hoooooooooooly crap, that's gotta be the coolest coincidence, so long as no one got hurt
The weird thing is... They wouldn't let him represent himself, declaring him unfit despite being a genius, calm, and very prepared. They were afraid he would be able to convince the jury he was justified.
He would have, because he was.
Shouldn't have gotten the innocent people he did, but overall from a broad point of view, he was 100% correct, objectively.
Something tells me neither of you have actually read his insane ramblings.
@@crimsonking440 Crazy sure, but he was highly intelligent, and he was fit to represent himself. He did not get a fair trial as described by law, and that's really all there is to it. They were afraid he'd be able to convince a jury he was justified, so they made sure he was unable to speak.
If youre crazy, then how are you fit to represent yourself? @Ilicet
@@jakedavis7916 who said he was crazy? The government sure, but he would not have been able to orchestrate his plan if he were insane. He may have been misguided, but his message was one which resonates now more than it did then. Sure his method of addressing the problem of tech running our lives was heavily flawed, and highly illegal, but if Darrell Brooks can represent himself, Ted should have been afforded his right to defend himself.
For future reference, Simon, it's an acronym when you use the first letter of the major words (like FBI) and a portmanteau when you use longer portions of separate words (like unabom).
It's actually an initialism, not an acronym. Acronyms take the first letter of each word to make a new word (like NASA). When it's an initialism you pronounce the first letter of each word.
Well this show was entertaining and educational, now i know the differences between acronym, portmanteau, and initialisms.
I smell nerd rage and BO from this comment
@@iaincowell9747 you can smell comments?
All I can say is , I knew unabomber wasn't quite an acronym , I just couldn't remember the word portmanteau (school was a long time ago) so I appreciate this post.
I’m a systems engineer….. specializing in metrology equipment and component level circuit troubleshooting/calibration. So technology is my life. Cutting edge electronics and equipment used to help advance science every day.
However……
I read ted’s “manuscript” A few times over the last decade and it’s uncanny how coherent and well argued his views are.
Technology is not simply a job for me….. it’s also a passion and hobby. I Built a professional lab in my backyard and its where I spend all my time. Both professional and fun/hobby time.
So I was kind of surprised when I agreed with a lot of his viewpoints.
I agree with you. I was surprised with how many of his points I agreed. I'm a female with a PhD in info science. I'm not quite a tech person - I researched the intersection of technology and humans, but I'm familiar enough with tech, tech development, and the history of various technologies. Based on the media's descriptions of the manifesto, I thought it would be all kinds of crazy and unintelligible, but I was wrong. You don't have to agree with him, but he should have found ways (like write a book, Ted?) to bring his views to the public without bombing people.
I think that's what surprises most people. He wasn't a raving lunatic, he had ideas and convictions. It's weird to think how things would have turned out if he had simply published his manifesto as a book and given public talks, instead of becoming a terrorist
The thing to remember is that tech in and of itself isn't good or bad. It's a tool. People use tools for good. People use tools for bad. Nothing involving humans is going to be perfect. The Unabomber's problem is that he blamed technology for problems instead of human nature.
The guy really is a genius that knows society and technology better than any of our politicians.
He's a genius phd, what did you expect?
From what I've heard and read of the mailing side of this was him testing if the bomb would survive intact transit through the mail. Hence logically testing couldn't mimic the unknown transit variable.
not only that, but he wouldn't be endangering himself in the testing, and the inevitable police investigations would be able to uncover points of weakness in his designs. It's actually fairly clever.
My mom's first husband was briefly suspected of being the Unabomber. It started after the bombing at the computer store in Salt Lake City, where they were living. He was someone who moved around and travelled a lot, and he had, by sheer coincidence, been in every other city a bombing took place around the time of each bombing. He also had a criminal record, that included using a homemade explosive to attempt to escape from some facility as a juvenile. He also had a very vague resemblance to the famous sketch, and that was enough for them to follow him and my mom for about a month. They eventually brought him in to give handwriting samples, and lost interest in him after that. My mom wishes they had just started with that, and spared them all the stress of being under suspicion. This has been a fun thing to go over with her, even though it was far from a fun time in her life when it was happening, so thank you Simon, Jen and co. for making this, looking forward to part 2!
In my younger days I rub shoulders with somebody who made the shortlist for the Unabomber. I don't know what he had done in his past to have made the list though. He was very smart though
“How did they narrow it down to men?”
Simon they literally saw him
Lol
I just made a very similar comment on this 😂
University hospitals tend to be pretty good here in America Simon. They sit alongside some of the best medical schools in the country, and typically speaking, do better research and treatment, especially for cancers and other diseases. Here in North Carolina, people with serious illnesses and injuries get sent to Duke University and the University of North Carolina for specialized hospital care every day. They were more than prepared to treat David Gelernter.
I think Simon is referring to like, a medical wing at a school. Like a nurses office 😊
I remember the whole mishigas of the Unabomber in the news, and this is still one of the most thorough pieces on the Unabomber I've heard. Way to get subscribers, Simon, leaving it there with his brother! Probably a thousand new subscribers have joined just to be sure and hear part two.
Mishigas. Love that word. Haven’t seen it in a while. Then again I think I’m the only person my age (25) who even knows the word Mishigas. My parents are older and from Long Island. So know a lot of weird words XD
Yiddish is wonderful. I use it often thanks to my Jewish grandparents.
@@MsPuffykinz it's a perfectly cromulent word
Simon, I dont think the point of the first few packages was to test the bombs. I feel like the point of those were to test the investigators. ie. send some small explosive devices that are enough to cause minor injury, nothing excessive, but enough to warrant an investigation to test the skills of the authorities. If you do get caught, there are no deaths to your name. If not, you're all good to proceed.
That's just my opinion of how it came across to me
I remember seeing a thing on social media about how a person was doing an academic paper and went to source some method they used, and found that it was created by this man.
You can actually find a lot of his studies around online. They simply say T. Kaczynski instead of his full name
he was actually a brilliant mathematician and taught at UC Berkeley
Simon: How did he know the Unabomber was male?
Earlier: Even though the picture isn't included in my transcript, I know what the picture looks like because it's the most famous police sketch in history.
The long-awaited Unabomber episode. Glad you're getting around to the "big ones" lately, Simon. Well done!
Yeah, but not multiple parts. I'd rather just one extra long episode. I don't follow Simon expecting to find a Netflix series.
@@philbarrett3739 EPIC CC BLAZE!
@@matthewmerchant2038 Exactly 👌🏽
The awesome thing about this show is seeing people's personalities. Between the different writers writing themselves and Simon into the script, Simon's random tangents, and of course Jens edits. It truly feels like 3 people making a piece of entertainment together.
I love that Simon is like, " Yeah, test your bombs in the back garden ". I think my neighbors would notice🤣🤣🤣
Not if you lived in a cabin in the woods
@@TheAnzamin He still had neighbors about a half mile away, close enough to hear any decent sized explosion go off.
@@BigDawgRey95 close enough to hear a large exposition but also have no idea where it came from. Given it's in the woods, I don't think the neighbors would immediately go to 'testing a bomb'. From that far away they could mistake it for a shotgun going off nearer to them or any number of things.
"The USA has so many 3 letter agencies" we call them alphabet boys
Clever
Simon: "is it an anagram?"
Me: "dude it's not an anagram it's a.... uh... "
Simon: "I'm dumb and people are probably screaming at their phones right now."
Me (screaming at my phone): "why is the word anagram stuck in my head and now I can't think of the right one?????"
The Netflix show “Manhunt Unabomber” was actually really great
Agreed. I was actually amazed that Netflix could do somthing that...good.
Jen is the unsung hero of the channel. Her editing often gets me laughing. Like at 27:33
The FC wasn’t as the script says, his MO, that was part of his signature. His MO was sending bombs through the mail.
"Why was it a man? Why couldn't it be a woman?" - Simon Did you forget the eye witness sketch of the Unibomber 5 years prior that clearly portrays that he was a man (mustache)?
because a fake mustache wasn't invented until 2021, right? lmao
oh, and if you'd watch any of his crime related videos you'd know that eye witnesses are about as unreliable as it gets. soooo yea
Well kinda both Ted Kazinski is transgender
@@bradleywinter5721no he’s not lol
Exactly what I was thinking
When I consulted a neuropsychologist to get my IQ tested, she explained to me that having an IQ over 145 made living in society really difficult. With an IQ of 167, Unabomber exemplifies what she explained to me.
He lived reclused. He tested his devices through mail so he would not draw attention. He knew he would all the information he needed through newspapers.
I love how giddy Simon gets about the coming reveals in this one. Also his struggle to follow the script without spoiling anything out of sequence. 😄 Bless you, Simon. You're the best.
There are a set of books called the Prey series about serial killers. The first book is called Rules of Prey where the killer gives his rules to not get caught as he murdered.
In reference to the wood/ED theory, I don't think it was a case of simple juvenile thinking. I believe they purposefully associate unknown suspects to typically embarrassing or shameful ideas as a way to upset said suspect & hopefully prompt them to make a mistake &/or reveal themselves. Basically, they're trying to trigger the suspect
100%!! All you have to do is look at the history of the FBI as well as other domestic and foreign LEOs to figure out that this was EXACTLY the intent.
Ted didn't bite though.
Yup - they do it a lot, especially if they think it will rile the type of suspect up.
Teddy K has Aspergers we are eternally 12...pedantic till the end eh?
I don't believe.. the "Ed theory " was public knowledge.. so it wouldn't reach him.. its more likely the idea of wood and at that point is bombs were maiming or disabling people at this point.. not killing.. like people with ed feel disabled..
I think it’s safe to say if Simon turns to the dark side he’d be the most dangerous and unsolvable criminal in the world and would never get caught lol
Think bigger ... He could already be right now. He's wearing a skin cap, the beard is fake as well, he doesn't wear glasses and in fact has 20/20 eyesight, and he isn't actually British .
I was just scrolling through Netflix. Saw a Unabomber documentary and thought "I should really learn more about the Unabomber, but I don't really know if I'll like this documentary." Switched over to RUclips and saw this video and knew I'd enjoy it. :)
6:30 - Chapter 1 - Universities, airlines, bombs (unabom)
29:10 - Mid roll ads
31:40 - Chapter 2 - Hiatus & reborn
Jen, holy s**t. The editing on this one had me rolling.
i wish u mentioned how penthouse was the first place to offer to publish the manifesto but he sent a letter saying he wanted someone more credable and said new york times
I lived through a serial bombing here in town, the Austin Bomber. The first bomb went off in an area I frequented. They ended up killing him near my childhood home. I was on site that day after he was killed, saw all the feds and everything else
I was just about to suggest this series of incidents as a topic. Seems like it doesn't get covered as much as it deserves.
Wasnt that in 2018?
I was at university at this time. Even though we were in Canada, we were extraordinarily careful about any packages or boxes out of place. And we never left our backpacks sitting around, just in case someone thought it was suspicious and decide to blow them up!
Who is we? Who are you speaking for?
@@wingerding My classmates and I.
Oh man.... The chuckle I had with the sketch superimposed over Simon... Thank you Jen!! 🥰
i love when cas crim starts the episode talking about putting a mans junk in a pocket.
Dear Simon to answer your questions at 45:37 they new he was a man because that lady saw him and that’s how they got the police sketch 😂
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I wonder if there are other investigations that cost more but don't count, like mafia investigations etc, since they're targeting more than one individual
The abbreviations for 3 letter agencies are usually initialisms, which means you pronounce the first letter of each word.
Say what you want but Ted is spot on with analysis of the future.
He literally predicted modern day America... its uncanny how accurate he was.
@@Charles_Anthony you mean current America, he was already in modern day.
@@CaraRowen: I don't really consider the time before personal computers to be all that "modern" especially since modern times are typically the here and now.
Omg I lost it when you were doing the sponser parts not even gonna lie. Simon said balls 😂
His manifesto “Industrial Society and Its Future” is available on YT in audiobook form… it’s worth a listen. Personally, I agree with pretty much everything he says
It's amazingly on point he knew what was coming
Yeah he was kinda over target. You wanna call him crazy, but with the gift of hindsight... I'm sorry maybe he was right
There were a lot of generalizations. But he was right about Industrial Society and it's effects on people
@@tonythetiger1600 Uncle Ted did nothing wrong
@@cyberpunkfalangist2899 well let's not get carried away now
Jenns use of memes and editing of classic media scenes is just *chefs kiss* keep up the good work I thoroughly enjoy the content your team provides
The mere existence of a serial bomber would encourage copycats. I don't think "giving into his demands," which weren't anything particularly glamorous, would necessarily increase the likelihood of copycats. And even if it would, you have to weigh that against the potential benefits of publishing the letters. Either he would hold true to his word and stop killing people, at which point you've saved lives, or you could use the published letters to gain information and catch him. I think both of those very real possibilities clearly outweigh the hypothetical "precedent" you were talking about. You have to save lives now in the one way you know you can.
Cliffhanger?! You cliff-hung the Unabomber? Ballsy.
We love Simon but bless his forgetting things at times. Him going on that huge rant of "How did they know the Unabomber was a man?" and then concluding that it has to do with the fact that women tend to prefer less violent methodology, like poison. Simon... Did you already forget the uber famous sketch? Ya know? The one where a MAN was seen planting one of the Unabomber's bombs?
This was such a creepy time in my childhood. All the adults all freaked out about packages and I remember all the neighborhood kids being under strict parental orders not to touch any packages etc. Was weird times.
I have a theory that the early bombs were small on purpose to watch the response of authority, and plan based on said response.
I mean the hard part is the detonater and timer if there is one, adding more or less explosives seems trivial. If you're already making them why not make a bigger batch.
Welcome Angus!! Great first script, can't wait for part 2 and for your future work!
I feel like Teddy is right in a lot of things... but idk it is just a bit sad to see just another someone without the enough strength of following the path himself wrote in the manifesto, he did the "easiest" first self-destructive step "for exposure". An existential change in any society for sure is not gonna be achieved by a lone man in a cabin sending pipebombs... But by building self-sufficient communities morally around that set of believes, finding friends, partner and having kids, just like he wrote.
Jup. And he certainly had the smarts and charms to do this in a non violent way. Instead he ruined any chance of him actually being taken seriously. He should have written a book instead.
I didn't see that this was a 2 parter... finding out at the end is killing me! can't wait for part 2!
the luddites threw their wooden shoes, their "sabot" into the looms, hence the word "sabotage".
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F.b.i= generally domestic crime
C.i.a.= generally international
A.t.f. only call themselves that because they wanted to be a 3 letter acronym. They are actually the B.a.t.f.e. standing for bureau of alcohol tobacco firearms and explosives
And the most confusing thing for Americans is our C.P.S is child protection services.
Love your videos brother.
I thought atf stands for anti terrorist force.
@@watergames8449 that would make sense but in the US the bureau of alcohol tobacco firearms and explosives didn't like that other agencies had a 3 letter acronym like FBI, CIA, DOD, DHS etc so they shortened their initials to ATF for alcohol tobacco firearms.
@@chrisshepard495 ok so they just want to fit in with everyone else.
@@watergames8449 yeah except they are know for really questionable things. There is a plethora of actually illegal things they do but look up ruby ridge and their involvement in wako Texas. Those are the well known questionable things they've done
Excellent video! I'm looking forward to part two. I'd forgotten about how long it took to capture and stop the unabomber. Great job Simon and team 😊👏💯
Sometimes, it easy to rail against mass surveillance, and generally i will myself, but at the same time, things like the unabomber cant happen anymore with them being recorded and caught pretty damn quick.
I think I'm ok with mass surveillance of public and government places, not to mention surveillance on private property by the owners, like a business, but it's the NSA digging into our private emails, texts, calls, ect where I think it goes too far. There are big differences between these 2 scenarios.
As much as I love everything about this series, I genuinely thing Jen's editing is my favorite part
Dear Jenn, Please create a .gif of Simon's demonic laugh in the FBI hat and use it frequently. That would be great. Thanks.
Simon I need thwt notebook. One for everyday use, and one for *definitely* not my crimes...
You know the guys a genius when his manifesto is available in audiobook format, right here on RUclips. I bet he loves that lol. PS this notebook hasn't been 6 months in the making its been more like a year. In fact I think scientists have spent less time trying to make a working fusion reactor. Its so damn legendary that when it finally comes out I'm definitely going to get one.
I wonder why my very similar comment was deleted 🤔
@@gregbors8364 I've had that issue a lot, I think in one case its because the channel can hold comments for reviews but I've had that happen quite a bit where they just disappeared for no reason. I don't think in this case its related to the subject of the comment and I say that because Simon makes very similar points all throughout the video. The truth is I wasn't saying this to be edgy I actually want to listen to this audiobook, I think I would share a lot of the same views though absolutely not the methods. With Ted's intellect he could have put that in a book, reached many more people and would have had a much bigger impact. His error was subverting his message with violence.
@@Nefville Usually it's just autodelete based on certain words. I have never successfully called someone a c*nt on YT. Comment never appears.
@@Nefville Ha I just tried to call you a c*nt. Asked me to review my comment, I clicked post anyway and once I refreshed it's gone. Try it, you may also call me a c word.
@@221b-l3t Ugh I hate RUclips, I really do. They block free speech, somehow the US 1st Amendment doesn't apply to them and there is a community that I'm heavily involved in, Tobacco Harm Reduction/ vaping and YT classes it the same they do for dangerous activities and drug use even though its scientifically proven to be safer than smoking. So anyone who makes a video related to it sees it get demonitized immediately and they will never show up in anyone's feed. At the end of the day YT hides that content from smokers who need it the most and they do it because public opinion of it is negative, not based on facts. Unfortunately there is no viable alternative so we're all stuck on this sh*tty platform. YT are c*nts too IMO.
Totally a story worth multiple parts, great work Simon and the casual criminalist team!
Amongst his ravings, he has some disturbingly accurate and troubling points. I think that if he had been within the normal intellectual circles and had maintained his calm, careful demeanor he could have been a revolutionary voice instead of a crazy criminal.
He was a government chemistry experiment. Look up MK Ultra.
People who propose radical changes to society are effectively silenced. For instance, (not to be egotistical here) my first comment on this thread was deleted
You should see his other RUclips channels …..oh… you meant the Unabomber?
Definitely interesting because he’s one of the few of these who is actually a genius and doesn’t just delusionally claim he is. Great channel!
I’m old enough to remember the appeals to the public, and it was surreal. I think one factor in deciding to publish his manifesto was that there had already been so much data shared about the guy that it wasn’t that big a step; I remember Reader’s Digest doing a story detailing all this, begging for help. It was everywhere
It's pretty wild that almost everything he said in that manifesto has come true. I listened to it the other night after watching this vid by Simon and it's nostradamus levels of spooky...
I think I saw something about him on AMW back in the day.
That giggle while wearing the hat was priceless 🌸💗🌸
29:02-29:07 made me giggle. I watch these mostly for Jen.
Literally read this comment at 28:00, just in time to catch ur reference
Another fantastic episode. Shoutout to Angus for the fantastic script. And to Jen fot her always on point memes :). Can't wait for part 2.
I would normally agree that it's very possible thay they would be setting a dangerous precident by giving the terrorists what they want, but I dont think it matters in this case for one simple reason. In the mass surveillance present, the unabomber wouldn't be able to exisit, at least not in the same way he did. He would have been recorded so many times if he had done this in present day, and would have been caught incredibly quick.
If all you have to go on is a hoodied man, you're in no way faster today than back then. Also it didn't put a precident because people demanding change don't seem to have the necessary patience required for it. Furthermore putting your manifesto out is a lot easier today and newspapers have long since lost a lot of their influence. They have basically returned to an interest group newsletter where you'll reach a specific circle of people.
That being said I'd guess that since cash is going out of fashion and local shops get closed more often, that tracing material required for bombs became increasingly easier since then. That being said we'll still have problems catching anyone before their first victim.
What a cliffhanger?! I know this story, but still can't wait!
I remember this back in my childhood, but I had no idea he had been doing it for so long. The name just popped up one day in my life, can't remember how and it seemed like that was the start of it all, not just the ending.
It DID set a precedent. It showed that having a paper like that published is a way to get yourself caught.
As for why they assumed it was a guy...they have a sketch, remember?
Gosh darn just gonna say it: Jen I love your work! I believe you are an amazing person and you always make me laugh. Thank you. Ofcourse Simon is awesome as well, it's the way you complement eachother that keeps me returning here.
Jen is amazing at her job
Simon talking about the FBI was the funniest thing I've seen all day!
He was a wise man. Unlike the average people who claim they are. I mean think about it no finger prints, building it from scratch, avoiding government surveillance. Brilliant mind but sadly wasted.
@@phil8528 : He predicted the modern left in this country. Did you seriously think that Democrats would basically become commies?
Sort of agree…he was meticulous and apparently mathematically gifted, but the whole plan was foolish to the point of stupidity. To think that “I know how to change huge societal trends like the growth of useful technologies….I will murder a handful of people, or maybe innocent strangers, as a way to get attention for my angry rant…and everyone will agree with it and instantly abandon cars, computers, phones and modern medicine.” Delusional to think a single individual can essentially threaten the world into historic societal changes, making the whole scheme pointless in addition to vicious.
What industrial society does to a mfer
Great Video Simon this is my Favorite of your channels !
I love how we get to know your personalities on this channel. Yours, Jen's and the writers you feature are all funny and interesting. I love this team storytelling!
What ever did become of Callum? Not that the other writers aren't good, but I do wonder.
46:43 the fact that the Unibomber got caught probably contributed to dissuade people to imitate him
Not sure if Simon checks out the comments for suggested cases. However, in the off chance he does, might I suggest *Pedro Rodrigues Filho* , who is sometimes referred to as the "Brazilian Dexter"? Though, in my opinion, it would be more accurate to call him "Real Life Punisher". While the case is horrific, I think it's made a tad bit more tolerable by who the victims are. Plus, I feel Simon would find his story quite interesting.... especially his post serial killer career. 😉😉
Was he the guy who took out a bunch of murderers and stuff, released recently?
Super late comment and may have been answered already, but the reason they didn’t put the package at @7:30 into the mailbox and instead called security is because it is a federal offense in the United States to grab another person’s mail, or to place things into mailboxes that aren’t yours if you’re not a postal worker. As far as my googling can get me, it has been illegal since ~1948? Which would predate the Unabomber.
Simon has a short memory. Simon, they knew he was a man, because they had that famous skecth. Ya know, the one you talked about 10 minutes prior to wondering how they knew the unabomber was a man, lol.
The half of all men thing i think was based on age. They were assuming he was older, based on that FBI woman's theory.
I have never been this early. This has honestly brightened up my day....despite the horrific subject matter...
Shall I order a trophy for you?
I’m still surprised that we’re yet to have seen a true serial bomber that uses drones… it would be so easy to use AI/facial recognition to target specific people as well…
I mean I hope it doesn’t happen, but I’m shocked it hasn’t already.
They can't carry much of a payload. However a drone with cannister of say ricin and a small charge to burst it... ouch. Okay better stop giving criminals idea.
I imagine it requires a lot more effort and is easier for authorities to track. So doing it serially might be hard but it is scary to think about how many people have drones that can watch or carry whatever they want.
@@jackprice4959 idk… there are software/libraries that are freely available that with minor modification could be used to train drones to shoot guns at a target, and even specific targets based on crowd facial recognition. But you would need to pull together large amounts of video/photographic data of the target (which is possible if the target is a celebrity / politician etc) - but if you just wanted to turn a drone into an autonomous flying bomb that waits until an event starts… I’m pretty sure you could do it.
17:54 Simon's genuine joy about the FBI hat warms my dead heart
Wait just a minute . I've been receiving obscene phone calls from someone calling himself Z3 🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣
*Kidding of course 🤣
*Also ; I sometimes think they include impotence in their public profiles to kind of goad the suspect into firing off of an ill judged reply that might give away some thing about themselves. I know it sounds kind of schoolyardish but when you're running short of ideas desperation probably takes over 🤔🤣
*Without spoiling anything I think the precedent it set was making people realize that if their own personal relationships can backfire that way unless you're under a certain age it's already too late to do anything about the evidence unless you're really willing to make an ultimate sacrifice if you know what I mean. Hint hint wink wink try not to spoil anything for anyone who doesn't know the story already
Hilarious.
I think you're right regarding the risk of publishing manifestos like that Simon. Seemingly being, wouldn't this create a precedent of getting attention and a voice brought to crazy rantings or basically leading to a threat like "Publish my works or I'll do ..."
Not a fan of stories being broken up into multiple parts, but I also get that this is a longer one.
I actually never realized the Unabomber had so many victims. For some reason I remember it only being a couple and the difficulties with trying to work out his unhinged motives. It's interesting seeing the timeline laid out more thoroughly.
I do hate how his intellect is played up so heavily. I feel people who turn to violence against the innocent to force the changes they want to see are showing in the most abhorrent way possible their own inability to convey the message they seem so convinced is a solution. If you think sending bombs to random teachers is a better way to get academia's attention than, I don't know, just righting a fucking essay on a subject, you're an idiot.
I really agree with you on this. It's actually really bizarre to me that people play up his intellect so much. Let's be clear, Ted Kaczynski is not a sociologist, a psychologist, or a historian. Sure, I won't disagree that he is an intelligent person in some capacity, but like... Have you ever tried to read his manifesto? Not listen to it in audio form, actually sit down and read it and digest it paragraph by paragraph. I got halfway through it and was so sick of his rambling, armchair psychology that I just had to stop. It honestly comes across as the ranting of a narcissistic, psychopathic neonazi with a god complex.
And yes, I said neonazi. I don't care that Ted Kaczynski claims that he doesn't like nazis. There's a reason that nazis like him. You can't say shit like "Leftists are antagonistic to genetic explanations of human abilities or behavior because such explanations tend to make some persons appear superior or inferior to others" and "Feminists are desperately anxious to prove that women are as strong and as capable as men. Clearly they are nagged by a fear that women may NOT be as strong and as capable as men" and not expect to attract nazis. But I guess most people just conveniently miss those parts of the third section.
I'm sorry if that came across as a bit hostile. I just stopped reading his manifesto about 30 minutes ago and I'm a bit exasperated after spending hours reading the armchair psychology of a wannabe philosopher who's actually just a serial killer.
Yall put into words exactly my thoughts on this.
Intelligence and mental health aren’t the same thing. For instance, Hitler was intelligent
@@gregbors8364 actually Hitler was an idiot, he was just extremely charismatic.
Except he *was* brilliant in certain ways. There are different types of intelligence. His didn't include interacting with human beings. Speaking as someone on the autism spectrum, I spent a *lot* of my life violently frustrated at my own inability to communicate effectively with others. Never to the point of building a bomb or anything, but I did get into fights. I've gotten better, thanks in large part to having a supportive family with a strong emphasis on communication. Not everyone has that background or the willingness to work on their own failings.
I burst out laughing when Simon went full Wallace and Gromit at 5.50 😂
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Is it just me, or does a college professor named Diogenes seem sort of like a character in a fictional novel? I guess, with a name like that, you pretty much have to end up being a professor, or something equivalent. Lol.
His methods were wrong. Bombings and murder are never going to be an effective way to achieve a goal. But the things Theodore Kaczynski wrote are pretty spot on in a lot of ways.
How? By wanting to stop progress? By championing human freedom but also saying that people who fight for freedoms shouldn’t be listened to?
@@rich9684 Exactly! I see pepole saying how spot on he is, but even if some of his points are not completely wrong, he seemed to make the mistake of not providing any viable solutions, just said that we should go backwards... That really makes him lose 'genius points' and credibility in my eyes.
I had to pause the video to commend Jen’s editing, every video I’ve watched is so well done! Yeah Jen!
He died today.