This team have passed more than 3 patches of abyss right now, so I could say they're super strong DPS supported by a pretty solid comp patch 2.2 Xiao Ayaka team comp : ruclips.net/video/J5j-EIdUEOA/видео.html patch 2.1 Xiao Ayaka team comp : ruclips.net/video/IbRHgZRjta4/видео.html Xiao wishing video : ruclips.net/video/ZSYD2znjrqI/видео.html There's Itto Gorou video on progress up next, still trying to find a good artifact for him and test him out at the abyss I just pulled him in my main account guarantee with my friends, do you guys interested in the pull video ? or staright to guide and showcase maybe ? anyway don't forget to like and subscribe the channel so you won't miss his performance, cheers
Hey sorry to bother, can i use 1 min of ayaka's gameplay from this video? Il link your video ofc, been searching for ayaka gameplay footage havnt found anything lmao
xiao is honestly insane, he has no artefacts sets thar are made for him, his weapon is good but not that good and also has no supports that are perfect for him. he does that much dmg without having anything perfect for him like literally all the other characters have. i really hope mhy releases a set for him he would get so much better
Who do you personally like better? I really like them both. I love xiao’s character design and playstyle, plus I have his signature weapon. However everyone says he is terrible for abyss. Meanwhile I love Ayaka and her play style. I don’t have her signature weapon but hear that she is really good for abyss. Who do you think I should go for?
First and foremost, everybody's 'good' in Abyss if you're willing to put in the effort. There's just varying degrees of efficiency vs. performance for resin and primos when it comes to team comps and builds, which is where the good/bad comparisons come from. Xiao simply has less opportunities to maximize his damage aside from just farming better stats or playing better, since he is Anemo and has a playstyle that doesn't have much in the way of supports that truly synergize with him, aside from ones that mostly work everywhere in general. A F2P Xiao is certainly capable of clearing even this Abyss smoothly, but getting to that point can be indeterminate depending on your artifact luck and ability to optimize stats. Just a reminder that every Xiao player you see currently has been playing for at least nearly a year now, as the lad has only ever had one banner in history. Veteran players are on a completely different level of account power even if they are F2P. A year's worth of resin and primos is nothing to scoff at. Ayaka, by virtue of being a Cryo DPS, has far more opportunities to increase her damage due to actual synergy with reactions, artifacts, and teammates. She's easier to farm for due to that, and thus her ceiling output is higher as well, which is why she's often considered the stronger character. The most important thing to consider with a character like Xiao is actually understanding stat optimization and thinking of DPS in terms of not just the numbers you see on the screen, but total average output. You have to simply accept that while something like 50/220 crit LOOKS good on the screen with the big numbers, it's extremely volatile in output and you may find yourself failing the DPS check frequently because you missed too many crits throughout all your plunges and dashes that added up over time. That's not necessarily Xiao's fault, it's the build. Sometimes you'll actually find that your Xiao may even perform better by dropping some crit in favor of ATK, maybe even dropping the 2-piece anemo set for double glad/shime set instead if your substats on those pieces are better. Theorycrafted DPS output only takes you so far, in the end you always have to look at your artifact stats (and weapons) to truly min-max for YOUR situation. These stat optimization things actually apply to ALL DPS characters and builds, but Xiao in particular demands intimate knowledge of it because he cannot crit fish nuke like Eula, he can't melt/vape his damage, he doesn't get easy streamlined crit builds with blizzard strayer, and he lacks the overwhelming built-in character synergy that Geo teams have nowadays. This makes him sound bad, but bad is ultimately relative because skill does matter. Let's say an endgame Ayaka team can clear in 45s, but it may take 3 minutes of resetting the chamber to pull it off because of super annoying enemy AI and trying to land her ult on all the enemies. A Xiao team might take the full 90s in the chamber, but he can do it in the first take because he's just way easier to play and adapt to enemies with a repositionable, centered AoE spam. Maybe it's the opposite - you're better at landing the Ayaka combos but can't micromanage Xiao plunges and knockbacks as well. tl;dr - While it's not exactly the most helpful answer, you do have to decide who is 'worth' for yourself. Ayaka theoretically has the advantage for ease of damage and clear speed, but you may have a slight edge with Xiao due to having his weapon already. Play the hell out of Ayaka in the current dungeon event and Xiao during his rerun trial if you want.
@@LuanNguyen-tc3wf ok thanks! I wasnt expecting this whole paragraph but this is more helpful then any Reddit thread, RUclips vid (I’ve seen so far), and people in discord. I will will definitely try both of them and just choose who I like more based off play style. I’m also gonna drop a sub, thanks for the help :)
As an Ayaka main, she's really good in the abyss especially for the freeze team and I also want Xiao for my second team because I have his signature weapon and he can clear the abyss easily but I'm still waiting for Ayato's kit because he might be a dps or hydro support so that I could pair him with Ayaka or put him in my second team..... If you have many hydro supports like Xingqiu, Kokomi, Mona then go for Ayaka but for me Xiao can fit with any team
@@LuanNguyen-tc3wf man, you're a fuскing legend! I already have this characters, so I should admit that you made your review as accurate as possible. But not only that, your text is really easy and enjoyable to read. Big respect to you, lad
@@EscadeYT Whoever is in the Abyss will sprint in normal way before the Abyss fight is activated. This also happens with Mona. I think it's because the game blocks all talents from being active before fight, and the special sprints are talents and thus turned off.
Soy main xiao pero no tengo su arma, creía que lo tenía un poco pocho, pero veo que con su arma pegan hasta 35k de un ataque descendiente Y el mío pega 27k sin ningún buffo con el arma del pase, además tiene 140 de recarga de energía Creo que no está mal
Nice abyss clear, these are unusual teams. I don’t have any cryo DpS, but seeing Chongyun here make me want to build him for my Rosaria, though do you think C0 Chongyun is viable or c1 Kaeya as the second piece in freeze team? As for your Xiao team it’s really awesome, my usual Xiao team was Zhongli Xiao Rosaria and Diona, I lost 50/50 to QIQI twice (late pity and guaranteed was late too) so I was mad and did not want to use her, I recently got Jean but maybe I can utilize Qiqi with the new clam set or tenacity. Do you think that the er you had was enough without Fischl energy generation or it was dependent on Fischl ?
Rosaria freeze team? Interesting Chongyun would be good if you go for cryo rosaria Qiqi with clam set would heal so much, slap sac sword on her and you will have no problem with healing (even with her low uptime burst), enemy hardly could hit Xiao on burst he jump around and with Zhongli shield Qiqi could use fav sword instead to fund Xiao burst To make up for Xiao energy fund you will need another anemo as battery or alternatively use a lot of favonius Xiao - Qiqi(fav) - Zhongli(fav) - Fischl (stringless/fav) Qiqi with clam here could still benefit from Zhongli physical shred and super conduct, but I haven't calculate out could 2 fav enough to fund Xiao burst uptime
@@aaaamxr how much healing you need depend on your gameplay, based on your artifact availiable choose between clam paired with fav sword or millelith with sac sword GO for the most invested artifact And yes you could replace Fischl with Sucrose to solve energy problem and use millelith and sac sword instead on Qiqi for the set bonus uptime extra ATK and shield strength
Diona almost do the same like Qiqi but with shield and locked on ground based healing or Jean would also do, she will generate more energy for Xiao burst uptime
From my experience with 104ER, the first 2 Xiao burst rotation fund gonna be easy task, but after that gonna need a bit of time to build up his burst back up without energy from his double (E) and Sucrose double (E) ready like before
Well there is several cryo battery out there, but the most invested one on this account chongyun, Diona : this account dont have sac bow, and with bennet on ayaka team that's too much hraling Rosaria : I still haven't lvl her up Karya : dedcent alt, but chongyun invested more than him For the sword infusion, it's just like I don't need to use alt sprint that much anymore if I got chongyun infusion on field and this help placement and positioning well while improve a bit of ATK speed, cooldown reduction and cryo shred while still doing his job asal battery Hope this answer your questions, cheers
he's still good for me on freeze comp to control the wolfhound freeze state more like when you want to use shatter to unfreeze the wolf faster specifically when they're on really annoying position to nuke dia masih baik bagi saya pada komposisi freeze untuk mengontrol keadaan frozen wolfhound lebih seperti ketika Anda ingin menggunakan shatter untuk unfreeze wolfhoundnya jadi lebih cepat terutama ketika mereka berada pada posisi yang benar-benar menjengkelkan.
Xiao ult looks like a pain honestly, but i think there is room for improvement. And of course ,xiao. Am absolitely pulling for shenhe cuz waifu>, but xiao is mad dps , better than ganyu in flexibility but again THE ULT.
![Xiao Main DPS & [C1] HuTao Main DPS - Floor 12 Spiral Abyss 2.4 - Genshin Impact](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/THVDL9HzKNM/mqdefault.jpg)
![Xiao Main DPS & [C1] HuTao Main DPS - Floor 12 Spiral Abyss 2.4 - Genshin Impact](/img/tr.png)
This team have passed more than 3 patches of abyss right now, so I could say they're super strong DPS supported by a pretty solid comp
patch 2.2 Xiao Ayaka team comp : ruclips.net/video/J5j-EIdUEOA/видео.html
patch 2.1 Xiao Ayaka team comp : ruclips.net/video/IbRHgZRjta4/видео.html
Xiao wishing video :
ruclips.net/video/ZSYD2znjrqI/видео.html
There's Itto Gorou video on progress up next, still trying to find a good artifact for him and test him out at the abyss
I just pulled him in my main account guarantee with my friends, do you guys interested in the pull video ? or staright to guide and showcase maybe ?
anyway don't forget to like and subscribe the channel so you won't miss his performance, cheers
Hey sorry to bother, can i use 1 min of ayaka's gameplay from this video?
Il link your video ofc, been searching for ayaka gameplay footage havnt found anything lmao
15 second of this video*
@@onvyll8817 sure no problem, as long you credit this video and me
@@EscadeYT Ofc ofc tysm
@@onvyll8817 still waiting for your video
xiao is honestly insane, he has no artefacts sets thar are made for him, his weapon is good but not that good and also has no supports that are perfect for him. he does that much dmg without having anything perfect for him like literally all the other characters have. i really hope mhy releases a set for him he would get so much better
Your xiao team are my xiao team now and i use that team to clear full 36 star abyss from 1.6 to now
me: watching how to win in spiral abyss
also me: i dont have these characters 🤡
same lol i have a completely different set of characters and weapons but it's still fun to watch
I LOVE AYAKA SO MUCH I NEED HER HER GAMEPLAY IS SO ENGAGING
Melt this,hyper carry this,now lifesteal xiao damn this team naming getting wild lmfao
Thank you for the video!
You're welcome friend !
Ayaka's ultimate got a ritmic sound lol 1:22
8:14 Qiqi ult in music drop timing)
Thank you, enjoy the video from the first minute to the last minute
Glad you enjoyed the video !
Thanks for showing a reasonable Xiao 😁
xiao: muno muno mudada muno muno kurai muno mudada kokoda kokoda
Who do you personally like better? I really like them both. I love xiao’s character design and playstyle, plus I have his signature weapon. However everyone says he is terrible for abyss. Meanwhile I love Ayaka and her play style. I don’t have her signature weapon but hear that she is really good for abyss. Who do you think I should go for?
First and foremost, everybody's 'good' in Abyss if you're willing to put in the effort. There's just varying degrees of efficiency vs. performance for resin and primos when it comes to team comps and builds, which is where the good/bad comparisons come from.
Xiao simply has less opportunities to maximize his damage aside from just farming better stats or playing better, since he is Anemo and has a playstyle that doesn't have much in the way of supports that truly synergize with him, aside from ones that mostly work everywhere in general. A F2P Xiao is certainly capable of clearing even this Abyss smoothly, but getting to that point can be indeterminate depending on your artifact luck and ability to optimize stats. Just a reminder that every Xiao player you see currently has been playing for at least nearly a year now, as the lad has only ever had one banner in history. Veteran players are on a completely different level of account power even if they are F2P. A year's worth of resin and primos is nothing to scoff at.
Ayaka, by virtue of being a Cryo DPS, has far more opportunities to increase her damage due to actual synergy with reactions, artifacts, and teammates. She's easier to farm for due to that, and thus her ceiling output is higher as well, which is why she's often considered the stronger character.
The most important thing to consider with a character like Xiao is actually understanding stat optimization and thinking of DPS in terms of not just the numbers you see on the screen, but total average output. You have to simply accept that while something like 50/220 crit LOOKS good on the screen with the big numbers, it's extremely volatile in output and you may find yourself failing the DPS check frequently because you missed too many crits throughout all your plunges and dashes that added up over time. That's not necessarily Xiao's fault, it's the build. Sometimes you'll actually find that your Xiao may even perform better by dropping some crit in favor of ATK, maybe even dropping the 2-piece anemo set for double glad/shime set instead if your substats on those pieces are better. Theorycrafted DPS output only takes you so far, in the end you always have to look at your artifact stats (and weapons) to truly min-max for YOUR situation.
These stat optimization things actually apply to ALL DPS characters and builds, but Xiao in particular demands intimate knowledge of it because he cannot crit fish nuke like Eula, he can't melt/vape his damage, he doesn't get easy streamlined crit builds with blizzard strayer, and he lacks the overwhelming built-in character synergy that Geo teams have nowadays.
This makes him sound bad, but bad is ultimately relative because skill does matter. Let's say an endgame Ayaka team can clear in 45s, but it may take 3 minutes of resetting the chamber to pull it off because of super annoying enemy AI and trying to land her ult on all the enemies. A Xiao team might take the full 90s in the chamber, but he can do it in the first take because he's just way easier to play and adapt to enemies with a repositionable, centered AoE spam. Maybe it's the opposite - you're better at landing the Ayaka combos but can't micromanage Xiao plunges and knockbacks as well.
tl;dr - While it's not exactly the most helpful answer, you do have to decide who is 'worth' for yourself. Ayaka theoretically has the advantage for ease of damage and clear speed, but you may have a slight edge with Xiao due to having his weapon already. Play the hell out of Ayaka in the current dungeon event and Xiao during his rerun trial if you want.
@@LuanNguyen-tc3wf ok thanks! I wasnt expecting this whole paragraph but this is more helpful then any Reddit thread, RUclips vid (I’ve seen so far), and people in discord. I will will definitely try both of them and just choose who I like more based off play style. I’m also gonna drop a sub, thanks for the help :)
@@LuanNguyen-tc3wf omg, here comes a big text...
As an Ayaka main, she's really good in the abyss especially for the freeze team and I also want Xiao for my second team because I have his signature weapon and he can clear the abyss easily but I'm still waiting for Ayato's kit because he might be a dps or hydro support so that I could pair him with Ayaka or put him in my second team..... If you have many hydro supports like Xingqiu, Kokomi, Mona then go for Ayaka but for me Xiao can fit with any team
@@LuanNguyen-tc3wf man, you're a fuскing legend! I already have this characters, so I should admit that you made your review as accurate as possible. But not only that, your text is really easy and enjoyable to read. Big respect to you, lad
Ur so fast bruh what the hell...
I feel you
So now on gonna talk about how his Ayaka run weird, could've sworn her sprint was like Mona's. Please tell i'm not going crazy 3:13
You're not, She really is sprinting there hahahha xD
@@EscadeYT Whoever is in the Abyss will sprint in normal way before the Abyss fight is activated. This also happens with Mona.
I think it's because the game blocks all talents from being active before fight, and the special sprints are talents and thus turned off.
damn you really plays great
Thank you!
this video are help me so much thank!
Glad this video help!
Soy main xiao pero no tengo su arma, creía que lo tenía un poco pocho, pero veo que con su arma pegan hasta 35k de un ataque descendiente
Y el mío pega 27k sin ningún buffo con el arma del pase, además tiene 140 de recarga de energía
Creo que no está mal
140 ER that will make your burst uptime so consistent ! nice
Nice abyss clear, these are unusual teams. I don’t have any cryo DpS, but seeing Chongyun here make me want to build him for my Rosaria, though do you think C0 Chongyun is viable or c1 Kaeya as the second piece in freeze team? As for your Xiao team it’s really awesome, my usual Xiao team was Zhongli Xiao Rosaria and Diona, I lost 50/50 to QIQI twice (late pity and guaranteed was late too) so I was mad and did not want to use her, I recently got Jean but maybe I can utilize Qiqi with the new clam set or tenacity. Do you think that the er you had was enough without Fischl energy generation or it was dependent on Fischl ?
Rosaria freeze team? Interesting
Chongyun would be good if you go for cryo rosaria
Qiqi with clam set would heal so much, slap sac sword on her and you will have no problem with healing (even with her low uptime burst), enemy hardly could hit Xiao on burst he jump around and with Zhongli shield Qiqi could use fav sword instead to fund Xiao burst
To make up for Xiao energy fund you will need another anemo as battery or alternatively use a lot of favonius
Xiao - Qiqi(fav) - Zhongli(fav) - Fischl (stringless/fav)
Qiqi with clam here could still benefit from Zhongli physical shred and super conduct, but I haven't calculate out could 2 fav enough to fund Xiao burst uptime
@@EscadeYT with zhongli shield would u really need qiqi to heal that much? u can replace fischl with sucrose and itd work fine.
@@aaaamxr how much healing you need depend on your gameplay, based on your artifact availiable choose between clam paired with fav sword or millelith with sac sword
GO for the most invested artifact
And yes you could replace Fischl with Sucrose to solve energy problem and use millelith and sac sword instead on Qiqi for the set bonus uptime extra ATK and shield strength
any character replacement for qiqi? I just remove her artifact recently and offer it to other characters since got to lazy to farm for artifacts
Diona almost do the same like Qiqi but with shield and locked on ground based healing
or Jean would also do, she will generate more energy for Xiao burst uptime
I don’t have ANY of the characters on the seconds team even though I have 22 characters
don't worry Xiao rerun could happen soon
Lol I'm just crying having none of these
hope you'll get them soon !
I feel like your xiao team is not doing as much damage(comparing to ayaka team) which makes it more impressive. Smooth!
Why makes it more impressive
@@emreksakol5512 I mean it’d take longer and need more dodging
@@Sasha-rp6ml But why is more impressive?
@@ukiki65 bruh like i said that requires more skills
@@Sasha-rp6ml huhh
if only i had mistsplitter
Hope you'll get it soon
I have delay when playing abyss in Mobile :(
playing with delay sure is pain
Bro, ayudame a pasar el abismo 12
do u mean u hv passed it ? gratz glad this video help
@@EscadeYT He says if you help him cross the abyss 12
@@متوسطعربي ahhh I see thanks man
@@EscadeYT you're welcome bro and happy night
Awesome vid!! Can you also try xiao, geo mc, albedo and bennett? Thank you :D
Thank you! I appreciate it man, but sorry I don't have them both at one same account 😫
@@EscadeYT It's alright bro. Looking forward to more xiao gameplay. Thank you!!
would raiden instead of fischl be viable?
Yes Raiden will provide more energy, area dps and smoother rotation
wtf ayaka???? 0:18
u never used her in abyss 1st team place?
i wish u could do that otside of there tbh like toggle
Is 104% ER enough if you play with Sucrose? 😁
I have 111% with more crit dmg or 124% with less crit dmg...
Still hesitating 😅
From my experience with 104ER, the first 2 Xiao burst rotation fund gonna be easy task, but after that gonna need a bit of time to build up his burst back up without energy from his double (E) and Sucrose double (E) ready like before
@@EscadeYT thanks so much for taking time to reply!
why did you use chongyun in the ayaka team? Doesn't she already infuse her sword with cryo
Well there is several cryo battery out there, but the most invested one on this account chongyun,
Diona : this account dont have sac bow, and with bennet on ayaka team that's too much hraling
Rosaria : I still haven't lvl her up
Karya : dedcent alt, but chongyun invested more than him
For the sword infusion, it's just like I don't need to use alt sprint that much anymore if I got chongyun infusion on field and this help placement and positioning well while improve a bit of ATK speed, cooldown reduction and cryo shred while still doing his job asal battery
Hope this answer your questions, cheers
Hope you get a good CD circlet for Ayaka soon.
Thank you! Hope sooo
Wow 👍
I'm honestly convinced I'm just bad at the game after seeing this.
practice make perfect, you can do it !
Trying to play like this on my phone🤣
Playing Abyss on phone is another lvl of hardcore floor
Y cuando me regalas un personaje así de poderoso
too bad my bennett is C6 and i put him on raiden team
and my ayaka just stick to zhongli albedo
Why not just use raiden national team and destroy the abyss?
Don’t worry my friend Shenhe is coming for Ayaka 🤣🤣
masih enak kah congyun bang?
he's still good for me on freeze comp to control the wolfhound freeze state
more like when you want to use shatter to unfreeze the wolf faster specifically when they're on really annoying position to nuke
dia masih baik bagi saya pada komposisi freeze untuk mengontrol keadaan frozen wolfhound
lebih seperti ketika Anda ingin menggunakan shatter untuk unfreeze wolfhoundnya jadi lebih cepat terutama ketika mereka berada pada posisi yang benar-benar menjengkelkan.
A bennet less Xiao 👌
Xiao ult looks like a pain honestly, but i think there is room for improvement.
And of course ,xiao. Am absolitely pulling for shenhe cuz waifu>, but xiao is mad dps , better than ganyu in flexibility but again THE ULT.
Muy buen xiao
k; nbj
Ayaka look play better than xiao, he kinda weaker than ayaka