2017/02/11: An incendiary discussion at Ryerson U
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- Опубликовано: 1 мар 2017
- A few weeks ago, Dr. Oren Amitay, who has been defending me in online discussions hosted by the Ontario Psychological Association, invited me to address his psychology class (to which other students were invited). We discussed freedom of speech, ideological possession, unconscious bias and the Implicit Association test, and other issues germane to psychology and the modern world.
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"new video from Jordan Peterson" *drops literally everything*
Sh*tlord Palmerston none whatsoever. it's a fairly common Italian last name though, so theoretically I have a bunch of cousins back in the old country with the same last name.
YEP.
Peterson dropping the hottest lectures of the year - pure fire.
The best background sound for playing some diablo 2.
*Grabs bag of popcorn, sits down with a big grin* This is going to be good.
Damn, I love it when Peterson gets properly fired up.
like a crested gecko fired up vs not lol
That moment when you find yourself downloading a 2 HOUR LECTURE from RUclips, Have I really matured to the point that action/adventure movies bore me?
BUCKO.
I, too, absolutely, bloody LOVE it when prof. P. goes on a rant. Makes my day!
Shit happens I guess. Me to.
The number of truth bombs dropped and articulately explained in this video is incredible. This should be required viewing for everybody in the western world. Big up to Jordan Peterson. Huge respect.
Amen, man. This is the answer to the chaos and hell
in every video...
I think a deeper issue is that everybody should already know half the things he states, or have some idea about it, at any rate, which is part of his overall point. However, it's clear he has noted that large groups of people and systems, too, either have no idea or are simply ignoring them, such as free speech. Speaking of which, we know that most people under the age of 35 as of 2019 don't really believe in freedom of speech now, which is insane and completely unstoppable for anybody aged 20 or under in said systems, states, and sometimes, entire countries (mostly because it is being backed by law, which tends to mean force or at least legal action).
Damn I found the zuby in the chat
This is very true
I listen to his lectures for 8 hours a day sometimes when I'm at alone at my job on weekends....hes amazing
He has great advice and perspective but you may want to get out of media and just be with yourself for a few hours each day. Or be with your immediate family.
Wow. You must have finished all of his lectures by now if this comment was written a year ago.
@@jeremybumpermanpub7144 idk if it's all...hes coming out with new stuff all the time.. hes an extraordinary mind
I'm attending a hyper-liberal college down here in the States and hearing the things that people parrot to each other here sometimes drives me up a wall. Your videos keep me sane and keep me asking questions. Apart from helping me recognize and articulate exactly why I have always instinctively been suspicious of identifying with sub-groups of humanity, I was raised atheist and you are the first person to ever make me look at religion with anything less than a dismissive stance. Thank you so much for uploading your curriculum, you have spent a long long time to develop the kind of articulation of being that you possess and it is so very appreciated. Much love.
About Religion, it´s basically the same for me, only I was raised secular technically protestant christian and just left later.
There are many holes Religion fills and many ways it (negatively or positively) impacts a persons and society, but I have realised there is net to nothing religion can do that something else can´t do and there is nothing that can do as much as religion does.
Especially when you look at communism you see how dogma is possible without religion and dogma is usually the go to answer to "why religion is bad" and what it is subsequentially reduced to.
But it fulfills many other things in society that have to or can be taken over by something else. The question is what will take what place.
Yeah, little ramble...
Neuromance27 same here.
same here. I go to a hyper liberal school and I'm getting a hyper liberal degree for the job i want. I can't believe how much garbage these leftists parrot to each other.
Ian, I went to a crazy leftist school in Canada, stay strong, there is a strong movement developing that is challenging the loony liberal leftist agenda thanks to Dr. Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Douglas Murray and Gad Saad. The movement is growing my friend.
Ian, I have almost the exact same reaction to Peterson as you. I was also raised atheist and I also had always been more dismissive of religion. Now I feel as if I can see the 'religion' in socialism thanks to Peterson.
I'm 67 and I am seeing hope for the future. Keep fighting the good fight Prof. Peterson.
+barefeet200 how many children did you have?
Just from viewing this video, I'm in. 100%. I will stake my life on this mans principles, which are my principles, which are reasonable, sane principles and stands for every person. I am behind you Peterson. ALL the way. You are the voice that has lived in my head, watching insane behaviour and feeling that I must suffer in silence. Your courage is an adherence to common sense, the truth and the ability to see how this philosophical pollution has come about. Yet courage is also demonstrated in your fearlessness in standing up to threats to silence you. You are opening the vault to allow freedom to return to education, politics and society in general. Thank you Peterson, for restoring hope to millions of people.
I'm the same way amazing how he has the ability to articulate my thoughts views and believes . 100%true 100%correct ... Sooo glad i discovered this.. He is a godsend..
I miss him so much right now. Hope he gets well soon.
Rarely do i come across a thread where i agree totally with each comment within it. 🤩 This man has deepened my outlook and responsibilities in life a true hero. All the best to you all and The Peterson family.
This is what people sound like after a few decades of being very very precise with their words.
Saves time with "editorial content" :):):)...... just record and upload.
It's sooooo very easy when you don't have any contrary thoughts, ideas or moral principals, and start your day by making your bed first ;).
@@RanNero at least he got a clean bed and can make sense of words, unlike the garbles you're spewing rn.
"Words matter" Dr Petersen
The way Dr. Peterson listens when someone is speaking to him is absolutely astounding to me. 100% focused on what is being said. It inspires me to be better.
It's a shame that, too often, he doesn't get that courtesy back.
And then there's me..... scrolling/trolling the comments instead of listening.
I agree
He's learned a lot because he learned to listen as well as speak.
I just took an Anthropology course at Ryerson last semester and it was downright disgusting how the professor was systematically promoting marxist values and crapping all over capitalism. I never expected political philosophy to be in an anthro course...
Sh*tlord Palmerston im considering doing just that.
Same, I had a politic science class and teacher was a total marxist. I had to LARP as Stalin in the tests to get through the class. The classes were super heated because almost everyone in the class disagreed with her ideology and no one was shy about it.
Yah it can get kinda bad. Especially in the ultra left areas of the country. I spent some time at UBC and it was pretty horrible, it was bed, and a similar hotbed for this ultra left, gender politics and marxism that is also seen in Ontario and Quebec. Now I am at Saint Marys in Halifax doing an Anthro Major and its not very prevalent here. To my knowledge THere arent any of the profs that have a leaning that way or in the least express it.
"LARP as Stalin" made me laugh like a fiend
Pat V do you know where you go to school in Halifax if all the universities there avoid identity politics or if it's just Saint Mary's as I'm considering going for a Bachelor of Commerce and would like to avoid identity politics in my classes.
I just discovered Jordan B Peterson. He has become my new hero.
Jordan Peterson is the only person I've ever seen that understands a rectal orgasm. Gleaning tips from great minds like Solzhenitsyn and Howell, I'm truly astounded by his knowledge. Comment if you agree!
Sounds more like he's just really upset about the current state of the world and feels the need to whine about it but not do anything about it. Also he seems to be suffering from some of the same ideologies and techniques he's putting down.
@@theoneilovemost I am sure that he is upset about the current state of the world, which is precisely why he is "whining" as you put it, or thoroughly discussing the problems, explaining them and drawing attention to them, which is how I would describe it. Which is, in my opinion, the best way to act. The man has the courage to speak up for what he believes is right. I'm not sure how that is not doing anything about the problems. Do you expect more radical action? And of which kind?
Precisely which ideologies and techniques do you mean, and when does he use- and abuse them? I am genuently curious, perhaps I have misjudged him, or failed to recognize such behaviour...
I’m going with inherent talent coupled with hard work.
@@theoneilovemost He is doing something about it. He's talking about it. He explaining what what the Human Rights Tribunal has done is wrong. He got into the details. He is doing that so that other Canadians can be informed of what they did and remove those people from power. That is doing something about it.
@@theoneilovemost sorry for the necro but i would love to know what more he could do other than gaining a following of millions on youtube and appearing on multiple television shows in multiple countries espousing the very opinions in this video. What more can be done to change your opinion of whining and do nothing about it, to paraphrase you
I'm a Ryerson student and I only see posters of student elections and leftist organizations. WHY DID NO ONE ADVERTISE THIS? I would have never missed this if I knew...
Vlad Romanyuk :( sorry. That is so sad!
I wanted to extend it beyond my students but I was too concerned that protesters would have tried to shut it down, just as they tried with an event at which Dr. Peterson spoke at the UofT one week prior.
Thanks for hosting this despite the risks anyway! I know most academics would have been too scared of the consequences to chance it, and I think it's important that Peterson's views (or even his right to speak them) get some support from colleagues within the upper echelons of education.
Well worth the risks. Dr. Peterson is the antithesis of the ivory bunkers that epitomize much of academia these days. Every professor/instructor should be so grateful for the privilege of educating and, it is hoped, inspiring great minds to embrace critical thinking.
DocAmitay Dr. Amitay, thanks for having Dr. Peterson. I tip my hat to you. I have met Dr. Peterson and he is a one of a kind man. it is refreshing to know that there are academics like yourselves willing to take a stand for truth. cheers. - Tony Costa, Ph.D
Dr. Peterson I want to personally thank you as a fellow Canadian, for your heroic mission. I pray for resiliency for you and your family as you lose your stripes and stand out from the herd.
Aquatic Logic We need someone like him in the states before it gets any worse here.
As french Canadian, i feel bad that many uneducated Quebecois will never be able to listen to him, because many of them can't understand English language ... hopefully we still menage to kick out Trudeau next election.
Absolutely brilliant Dr. Peterson. Bravo for your courage and tenacity.
This is one of my favourite discussions that JBP has online. Because it is distinctly Canadian, he expresses his Alberta roots and he gets worked up. From a fellow Albertan, and I am one of those guys that worked the oil rigs in Northern Alberta- loved it too, I thank JBP for all he gives to us.
Thank you professor. My mind has exploded since watching your lectures. Even me a 38 year old truck driver can appreciate your amazing teaching and put it too daily use.
Thank you!!!
Aw man, Simo, you are awesome for saying that. I'm a 62 year old female and I love JPs intelligence and bravery. He puts our thoughts into words. I believe that when people of my age agree with him, it's because we've been through a lot of years watching and experiencing so many changes in our own societies and those of the world. He is talking honestly and rationally. I've watched hundreds of hours of his talks. Good luck to you from Bonnie Scotland!
You sir are much smarter than 80% of professors and 80% of students.
As a 42 year old man i can concur with you Simo 👍
Never stop learning man! 💪
You have more life experience and intellectual courage than the vast majority of progressive professors and brainwashed students man. Keep learning.
amen brother we all in this together, greetings from Peru!
Watching is like drinking truth from a fire hose.
GWHARBHRLBLBRBBABABALLBRBLBRL
turn it up to 1.5X speed and try to keep up
"Drinking truth from a fire hose". That was wonderful visual imagery.
amfpvt Well said, man!
I have to turn it down to .75 speed, not only because English isn't my first language, but because this is so rich with nuance I can't absorb it at normal speed. 😄
I just love it when Jordan starts working himself into what I could describe as a calm fury of sorts.
It's fantastic that this one video of common sense will reach a bigger audience them most professors will reach in their entire career. Good for Dr. Peterson who is a light in the dark.
David Cameron the internet has allowed access to so much knowledge...and has helped give a platform to some who would’ve never had one, or never reached nearly as far without the tools we have today. It’s astonishing
I feel like Jordan B Peterson is saying all the things we've ever wanted to say to SJWs but never knew how to put so eloquently into words. Also, he's definitely put in the legwork in terms of the necessary reading and research. Major kudos to him!
Dillary Clump Imagine the sheer willpower it requires to break through all the lies and conditioning society indoctrinates you with from a very young age. He's like the runner in the animatrix...
Dillary Clump That's why we in the US got Trump this election.
as if Trump is the answer. All 3 major candidates the past election were a joke. In fact, pretty much every candidate running were jokes. There was only one candidate off of the top of my head that actually deserved to win and would have bettered America - Rand Paul. Sanders would've bankrupted you, Clinton would've sold you out, Rubio would've been manhandled by the dominant voices wherever, Cruz would piss of most foreign leaders, and Trump is a walking disaster. I'll give him credit in one area - he has the right idea about taxation. Aside from that, he's a bloody farce. His constant tweeting, arguing, lying, and retconning his own statements are a sad sight to see
You made me rethink my position on Christianity and helped me repair my relationship with my brother, thank you.
I stepped out of religion and became 'a militant atheist' while he went on to become a born again Christian, and until hearing you speak, I couldn't understand why. Thank you so much.
jmoneyy1984 ugh you're cancerous for considering religion as a whole as being cancerous. I can't stand you people.
You haven't told me anything new, but thanks for sharing.
If you don't mind my asking what denomination are you?
Blackjack I'm still an atheist, I have seen no evidence that would point me towards anything else. But I am extremely thankful to have grown up in a society which shares values with Christianity.
Louis Duncan Christ and his message where coopted by Rome, and not the best of Rome, but its waning and depraved tail-end.
But the virtues & ideas that Christ advanced & exemplified could very well heal most societal problems.
Dr. Peterson, Dr.Amitay, Thank you so much! I am a 53 year old engineer working in Texas, and I love your material! You have taught me so much, thank you sincerely. I totally support what you are doing and your viewpoints, at least as far as one person can support another's viewpoints! Keep up the good work.
I love Doctor Peterson for opening my mind that's a given by now and I am proud to say I am being educated.
Also Dr. Amitay looks like such a friendly character!
Thank you both for making this happen, we need people like you to help us be aware of the ridiculousness of this age.
He is a very good man. I have spoken to him personally and I can guarantee he is completely honest of character.
No its the other way around..
Everything you discuss makes me uncomfortable and self conscious. These are almost becoming positive reaction I crave because I can't seem to get enough of it! Thanks for the nuclear attack on my entire conception of the world! Cheers 🍻
Fully agreed, couldn't have said it better.
Professor, please check my channel for a video I made about you and Sam Harris. I humbly think it might be worth 10 minutes of your invaluable time.
yer mom tho
"nuclear attack" accurate haha
Just got turned on to you Professor, great stuff. Please keep it coming.
I'm a young man, and thinking back on all the radical ideas I had in adolescence, its unimaginable to me that children as young as 13 are being told they can choose their gender and act on that choice. Especially with all the propaganda saying its normal to be trans, and with how impressionable kids are, and how kids seek attention and seek to differentiate themselves in radical ways. It seems like a path to many potential suicides.
Solipsis that is the fuck up part, it is like they literally tell kids to do this because it will make them special and kids want to be special
Homosexuality is also not normal.
This is exactly why everyone’s fighting against this stuff. Like you said: we had ridiculous ideas and values as children. You can’t smoke, or join the army below 18. Why should you be able to mutilate your mind and body?
Peterson's got unbelievable stamina; maybe that's partly because he's on a mission. You can see the energy as he puts into getting his case across... it's very impressive.
I admire the way he keeps going, with no pause!
Passion for sure. I don't know how he does it. Amazing, extraordinary and worth hearing. It's ok to agree or not, his ideas are too explosive to debate with any government, in any country, but all listen, but can't imagine debate will occur soon.
Peterson you just become more and more articulate everyday keep doing what you're doing the world is watching and needs you now, thanks so much for your courage and willingness to speak where other people cower
The man is a monster. He speaks all these long sentences without stuttering, as if he had rehearsed the speech for hours. And he does that even when answering questions from the audience. His brain is running a 1000mph...
Even Ben Shapiro, who is also a great speaker, fast thinker and probably as intelligent as Prof. Peterson is not so linear and smooth as him.
The depth of Prof. Peterson's analyses is breathtaking.
if you watch more videos youll see he recycles thoughts. When you include the idea that you can derive some axioms and stick to them and build your understanding of the world around them then you can answer a wider array of questions than each individual idea originally could as you have a solid base to project from. So he's accurate when he says he cant answer because he hasnt thought about it properly yet, that means the question is too off his established base he would be guessing too much and would be likely to say something inaccurate or contradictory.
gia Yes, it's good to see his ideas and beliefs are consistent right across the board. Those ideas are some of the best out there. Also, actual FACTS. He's got loads of those.
Dear God it is so nice to come here and get a dose of sanity.
This is my favorite video of dr. Peterson. He's on fire! :)))
Dr. Peterson is a brilliant breath of clean air!!
Jordan B Peterson = Modern Day Nietzsche. Humans will look back on his lectures and watch in aw, just as they do today. So much value added to my life and the lives of my children. Cannot get enough. Thank you Dr. Peterson!
Jordan is the true revolutionary all the regressives and SJWs wish they were.
He is great at what he does, and I am hugely impressed by his work. But can we please not get ahead of ourselves here with the praise, I'm sure Peterson would agree.
Peterson for Prime Minister.
Elizabeth Holden I do not think he has any interest. He would rather do something useful that he knows something about.
Yes, this guy truly is a gift to intellectual thinking. So sad these professors are so rare in universities these days, it's no wonder if you're not in STEM or health sciences or law you're coming out dumber than when you went in.
This isn't just for his students. I am a grand mother. I sent his interview with Joe Rogan to a friend and my grown son. Both called back thanking me... they saved it and watched TWICE
#Woke
I love all these comments. Ann, Mary, Gwen. Much love to all of you ladies
Well Done mrs. Thomsen! Grettings from Germany and Russia.
# me too.😉
Ann Thomsen haha how does a grandmother end up watching Joe Rogans podcasts 😂 just seems backwards that you'd be sending something to your grandsons rather than the other way around
I’ve just discovered this brilliant man and have been binge watching everything I can on him. I’d love to have an hour or three to pick his brain. What an amazing gift he has-and is!
I was part of the team at headquarters Marine Corps when the enterprise was struggling with the pressure to open all ground combat positions to women. So much of what he says about gender preferences and interests driving job choices I said all the time, but far less eloquently. 🤪
-not angry, not a man😏
Here's some more JP videos to binge! Top 3...
interview with Maajid Nawaz ruclips.net/video/IMBfT38xbhU/видео.html
interview with British GQ ruclips.net/video/yZYQpge1W5s/видео.html
interview with Camille Paglia ruclips.net/video/v-hIVnmUdXM/видео.html
extras
gets good around 40;00 or something especially if you're a student like me ruclips.net/video/Urd0IK0WEWU/видео.html
why free speech is deep ruclips.net/video/eVvS3L_aBV4/видео.html
no really it's deep ruclips.net/video/3Sz2-6RNkjY/видео.html
this is ok too ruclips.net/video/8ABa4RdNPxU/видео.html
this is ok too (interview with GeenStijl
) ruclips.net/video/E6qBxn_hFDQ/видео.html
infectious disease and authoritarian belief (which might be relevant with covid19 going around) ruclips.net/video/vyMr8wkJkcc/видео.html
"you're screwed both ways, pick your poison" --JP. I like that one. I hope the audience was truly inspired to improve their lives.
I'm starting to speak up a bit more in my high school gov and civics class. I successfully red pilled 90% of them on immigration and the wage gap in a debate the other day.
Wow, spectacular result! Well done!
Pelon003 you will never fuck
It's a good time because your peers are not nearly as brainwashed as they would be if you were in university.
Lol he redpilled 90% of them and guaranteed he will never fuck 100% of them
Brad Cole Women are attracted to confidence and men with balls, so the fact that he stood up and said that stuff in class would actually increase his desirability to the girls in the class if anything (given that they don't sound like Sjws- if they were it'd be different). Not sure why you're so obsessed with this concept of him not getting laid, you took the effort to make 2 separate comments about it. Weird
I could listen to this man forever.
Unfortunately, overly emotional liberals cannot.
Watching this video after Charlottesville, had to stop in awe at 23:15-23:30. He essentially predicted what happened last week.
This is one of the greatest things on the internet. I flipping loved every minute of it. Thank you Dr Peterson.
einer der besten auf die Internet xd
This lecture is more fascinating than anything I've heard in a very long time. I get the sense that Peterson has very little bias and therefore is able to speak raw truth. It's come across as blunt, profound and convicting. It's like therapy, listening to him share wisdom.
Dr. Amitay, continue to fight the good fight. It was a pleasure being in your class last semester, along with Dr. Peterson you are another academic I respect. I am so glad that Dr. Peterson's lecture was so well received, I hope more students continue to realize the gift and value of free speech. I hope to take your clinical psychology class soon :) . Best wishes, sarina.
Thank YOU, Sarina. You made this talk happen and now tens if not hundreds of thousands of people will benefit from your efforts and Dr. Peterson's generosity, brilliance, passion and tenacity as he fights against the ideologue tyrants and fights to help people embody insight and a sense of true empowerment. I'll look forward to seeing you in Clinical Psychology.
Hundreds of thousands so far. ;) Let's go for a million. Will be sharing this. Thank you for taking the risk to host this. Only the courage of people like Dr. Peterson and yourself will save us from what we know is coming.
I want to Thank you Dr. Peterson, your teachings have always struck something I found to be helpful. Recently I've been under military training, which has been rough. Your book 12 rules for life and your online videos have helped make it bearable and made me appreciate the utility in what we learn in the army more.
Ha! I normally start skipping though RUclips vids after 5 mins and I just sat through all 2 hours of that no trouble. Should have brought popcorn :D
Bloody brilliant isn't he?
"Should have brought popcorn". Love it!
Janice Billington obviously
There are a number of videos from various intellectuals that I almost shut off after 10 minutes but I continue listening and I am so thankful that I do.
Please do a parenting video. You touched on the subject in one of your classes and I enjoyed it immensely, but it would be really great if you did a full blown lecture on parenting. I think that it would be very beneficial to a lot of people .
I could listen to Professor Peterson all day and I shall thanks to youtube.
This is arguable the most powerful Peterson vid on these topics. Indisputable.
Thank you for posting this. I can't afford to go to a University although I'm paying for online tuition. It's encouraging to know I can access these lectures from intellects to help me develop my understanding of the of people and the world around me. We're lucky that anyone with an internet connection can access this information.
Thank you Dr. Peterson
Please be our Prime Minister Dr. Peterson.............Please for the love of god. We need You.
Thank God for a compelling balanced and insightful argument against social stupidity.
Read the book "The Law" by Frederic Bastiat, or if you can get it, it is sometimes was sold as "The Law and Cliches of Socialism" and that one is better. I started learning about Government politics when I was about 16 when I was mesmerized with a weekly tv show show by Dan Smoot, on a somewhat snowy TV. I am an old lady of 78 and a huge fan of Jordan Person. keep it up!
He is a great man who can see the seed growing in the tree of evil
So great that JP was able to break out of the confines of academia and spread his massive and important knowledge to a much wider audience.
One of the most intense intellectuals alive.
I agree but if you think of it he isnt saying anything new.The ancient greeks have said it all and exhausted all the topics needed.
Jordan is awesome!
People try so hard to hide from themselves what he says!
Right-winged or not, I love the truth!
Great video. The students sounded really engaged. Also kudos to Dr. Amitay for inviting Dr. Peterson, he should be heard!
Dr. Amitay is quite brave to let you have a audience with his students and others to spread your message. What if any backlash has the professor encountered by this action?
I like that some in Academia are questioning the mainstream areas of thought. Keep up the good work!
No backlash (yet). I asked Dr. Peterson to present a guest lecture in my class, which is within my purview as an instructor; I wish I could have invited far more people but then there could have been resistance. We'll see if things change, now that more people are watching the video via Dr. Peterson's youtube channel.
Special thanks to Dr. Oren Amitay! Thank you so much for making this possible. I have to admit that I started having a rather negative opinion of Ryerson because of some crazy manifestations of the SJW types. So long as professors like you are still around, this civilization has nothing to fear. Thank you both!
It's all about everyone doing his/her part to try to spread the word about critical thinking and all that it entails to as many people as possible. Silence is not an option.
ConstantinDV I think you are only partly correct . It's not just people like these we need. WE ALL need to be more courageous like them so that everybody can stop the atrocities (that are on the way) from occurring. Either from the current out cry of the evil that is the communist scum pretending to be otherwise. Or, another thing we should be cautious of is our very common reactionary response in America to SEE an evil and become just the opposite. And the opposite to those people can be just as bad. We simply have to be more aware of ourselves. And we MUST learn to listen.
The more I hear this guy, the more I like him.
Thank you for your passion, Doctor Peterson.
Probably doesn't need to be said, but thank you very much for what you do, Dr. Peterson. Please keep up the fight! You probably don't realize it, but you give a voice to those who have trouble articulating themselves. There is a large unspoken majority behind you.
"Wake up!"
- Jordan Peterson 2017
"Why don't you put on a little makeup?"
-Jordan Peterson 2017
"The humanities go and the whole university is gone." Love it.
This guy is absolutely critical.. His humanity brings a lump to my throat.. God bless you Mr Peterson.
That's my old prof Dr. Amitay, took two of his courses. Highly recommend!
Only 25 mins in, and already I have to say: Thank you so much, Prof. Peterson, for speaking -- and speaking so forthrightly -- about this phenomenon! You certainly have 'touched on' a toxicly troubling issue.
Jordan is one of the few voices of reason I have heard in academia.
This is probably the best Peterson talk I've seen. Way to go!
Agreed. If anyone can find one that is on pair with this one, please link it
Bless this man. He's so incredibly inspiring and I swear I learn more out of his videos than I have in most of my courses at a Liberal Arts College. Thankfully I've transferred and am now focusing on early childhood development and care. Love it.
This is brilliant stuff. And I say that as a Transsexual (medical condition) female (post operative) NOT a 'woman' (as defined by the 'transgender community').
I am NOT 'transgender', as I feel my gender hasn't changed - I behave in much the same way that I did pre 'transition'.
I don't know WHY I am transsexual, and perhaps my mother took a painkiller at a sensitive point in my gestation - and for anyone that thinks THAT couldn't have such drastic repercussions - I suggest you look up Thalidomide'); Like I say - I have NO idea where this initial thoght came from - I only know that it was there and then serisouly fucked my life up for decades afterwards. So in one way I have been 'cured'. As an aside, I have never been much interested in sex. Not even with myself, and yo are more likely to find me wearing jeans and a T shirt and perhaps playing the drums; I rarely wear makeup and high heels... though I like to on ocassion, (it the occasion fits and is appropriate) and *actually* don't scrub up too badly.
The thing about transgenderists is that they have foisted a LIE of a 'spectrum', but they are, (as far as 'M2F' are concerned) transvestites that have fetishised both my experience of life and the cultural 'gender role stereotype' that is prevelent in the Western world - usually predicated by sexual preference and clothing fetish.
I have met many of them, and generally find them to be zealously filled with dogma about their beliefs and reticent about the *actual* science regarding my admittedly rare experience of life. I have been called 'transphobic' and a 'bigot' because I refuse to swallow their dogma hook, line and sinker... it really *is* THAT insane.
I couln't care less what consenting adults get up to in the privacy of their own homes - but it has NO business being elevated into Law or politics.
Sorry - but there you have it - and from my experience the whole thing has been predicated by Leftist thinking in the Gay community by those with distinctly Marxist leanings.
I *am* a Democratic Socialist by the way, and believe in Freedom of Speech and would defend the rights of anyone to abuse me in the harshest terms possible that they can think of - as it is, after all; only words. I have no need for a 'safe space' with regard to what people may choose to say about me.
What you say about running a business is SPOT ON too. I Had a *small* boutique digital media company before the crash and regularaly worked 20 hour days.
infamousT "20 hour days".... haha.. yeah. right. :-)
Yeah. Right. I had a mortgage to pay, and was working with New York PR companies from London at the same time as bing a single parent in a 1 bedroom flat and spent 5 years sleeping on the floor so my son could have his own space.
You should try it.
This was before my 'transition' as it's referred to in the vernacular from 2003 -2008 and I made a shed load of low rent music videos to help out struggling emerging artists for fun to get me away from the insaniy of doing dull corporate work back in the day when hardly anyone else even knew how the internet worked...
I've been online since '96
So... what do YOU do - with your facetious, innane and fatuous one line comment?
Grow up.
infamousT I believe you that you might have worked long hours. But 20 hour days on a regular basis is simply not possible. That wouldn't allow for more than maybe 2 hours actual sleep, which is not enough to even reach the recreational portion of sleep, let alone actually regenerate. No one could keep that up in a job that is even mildly demanding. So, you are full of shit.
I'm a PhD student.
"Bck to yor studies now - ask yr"
Nice. :-) Good job on that typing you feel so much pride for.
I'm not American, I'm German. But I also am quickly getting tired of your little tirade of insults. Going by how you choose to express yourself, the one thing I believe about your story is that you don't have any qualifications.
So hop on to your imaginary 20 hour work days. (Are you sure it wasn't 30? I bet you did 40!)
Kenny, what an odd thing to take issue with. Maybe take a chill pill. InfamousT, thanks for sharing the story. I found it to be helpful.
Thank you professor for providing much insights. Regards from VietNam.
Thank God for Dr. Peterson!
You are my role model Dr.Peterson. Thank you for what you do. I hope you are able to speak at that convention without getting shut down.
You should read the bible and make GOD your role model. Not preaching or judging just saying JP is well rooted in biblical teachings.
Deltassippi
Well, even as a Christian, Peterson often looks at religious works with the psychological lens which is how his biblical series actually got popular after his initial fame. He talks about how students really appreciate an secular look into theology that doesn’t really happen in churches or ever explained b preachers: The view of the Bible being a meta narrative and taking it on from there in a psychological context spreads those ideas in the manner that it should be taken in instead of too many literalists and emphatics who thump about this or that interpretation being the one true way. Peterson takes the words and instead of putting on another overarching narrative himself to drive a point like a pastor, reverend or preacher, he simply analyzes what’s there based on empiric theory.
That’s the Peterson difference.
It’s what helped me appreciate Christianity as a culture as opposed to hating it as an ideology. I still think the work is fiction, but I don’t think less of it for being fiction. It’s a wonderful metaphorical piece of work that combines myths from many societies to create meta figures that give people a broader understanding of culture, literature, and archetypes.
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Your summation of the series objective is great. I can't help, having read the bible, notice Jordan time and time again displaying to be someone of knowledge. You have to have read it to know what I am talking about.
I do agree emphatically that churches are a seeming poor representation. *edit* I mean they have gotten so far away from what the text says through the dogmentation (is that a word?) of their ideology that they believe in a trinty. *end edit* They seem to mean well but fall into creating their own ideologies. I recommend that you read the whole darn thing cover to cover at least once and then judge for yourself. I assure you if you approach it openly; the depth of the text is quite unsearchable. Might I suggest you go with the hotel version a.k.a. the Gideon's Bible. In Jordan's spirit, if you haven't read it; you are the one criticizing the one who cleaned their room. Cheers!
Maybe if he could condense it to one sentence but to me he excels at saying simple things in complicated ways. A sentence becomes an epic and I don't end up disagreeing but rather losing interest in him. He's also a bit retro - psychology tends to end at Jung for him.
I'd rather not make a role model out of a being that sent one of his angels down to impregnate a woman against her will, stand by and watch his son be murdered by his own creations, turn his back to, effectively, his right-hand man and cast him down from heaven, then stand idly by while the world burned at his feet. Sorry but, there's a lot more wrong with an omnipotent being than there is with the common man. For one, we're not all corrupted with the power of being the almighty creator of everything-that-has-existed-ever with the power to do anything.
Not to quote a song, but I feel this fits pretty well to my views about God in general:
"I don't want to start any blasphemous rumors, but I think God has a sick sense of humor and when I die I expect to find him laughing." - Depeche Mode
1:25:41 "On that happy Valentine's Day note"
OMG I love Jordan Peterson so much! There is so much I want to comment on. Thank you so much for uploading this, Professor Peterson!
And thanks to Dr. Amitay for facilitating this discussion!
I'm taking NOTES! This is amazing.
Many blessings to both of you, your families, and your students,
-Jack Musick / Big Island Kobudo
Christ, about 21 minutes in Jordan Peterson predicted Charlottesville
Charlottesville has been fake-news Ed & spun out of any recognition.. Groups of patriots had permits to March.. they were attacked by lawless, violent Antifa thugs bearing clubs.. some defended themselves & fought back. in VA conservatives Peacefully marching with permits to preserve our history & statues were brutally attacked by lawless violent leftist thug Democrat mobs.. while the Democrat officials ordered police to stand down & watch..... a driver attempting to drive away quietly was violently attacked by Democrat thugs... panicked & fled striking a woman..
All violence was instigated & caused by Lawless Dem mobs attacking law abiding Americans,
This was excellent. Thank you for putting this online.
Dr. Peterson, it was a delight to be at this lecture and listen to you...I am inspired by your bravery and wisdom. Glad your message is reaching so many people, I think people are more willing to challenge the absurdity of political correctness thanks to you. Sarina.
I hope you know that you setting this up has made a huge impact on a lot of people. Coming up on half a million views now and look at all these comments. You did some real good for a lot of folks. Congrats and thank you. I hope I hear more about you. Let us know if you start any groups or programs. Best wishes.
Peterson is a great rhetor; passionate, extremely lucid and eloquent. What a video! I'm having a great time just listening to him, even when I disagree. Really good stuff.
thesumofparts i agree. There is always criticism to be found and it helps alot that he is deductive in his arguments and explains theory behind a claim. It also helps that he has a high academic authority so not everything he says needs to be checked (also know some psychological sources to begin with which helps).
This almost made me cry. Thank you Dr. Peterson.
Dr. Peterson, you are absolutely brilliant! We need more academics, just like you, in our society. Keep it up!
So if I identify as a woman can I get lower insurance rates?
I think in Canada this may actually work.
Sun bro You can actually legally change your registered gender based on a doctors note. For that, you simply have to state that your biological sex does not express your actual gender. Once you are registered as female, you can apply for insurance based on that. And if anyone in the insurance companie questions your self-assumed gender, they are basically violating the law.
So, without making any jokes here, just factually answering your question: yes.
only if you're also a muslim
Also: If I identify as a woman, then will I live 8 years longer? ; )
TejrnarG of course! And if you don't, blame transphobia.
I had the pleasure of having been in one of Dr. Amitay's classes. It was so refreshing to have him promote critical thinking instead of pushing a one sided argument.
Thank you, TheeEnd23. That should be a requirement of any educator.
dr peterson should have at least 4 billion subscribers
I got listening to this in the morning and realized I got none of the 5 important things I had to do. I just can’t pull away from this. So damn brilliant and captivating.
WHY ARE YOU SO INTERESTING TO LISTEN TO? I can't explain it. You're just one of those people that are fun to listen to. I could (and have) sit down all day and binge watch your discussions. They're just so interesting.
Here's some more JP videos to binge! Top 3...
interview with Maajid Nawaz ruclips.net/video/IMBfT38xbhU/видео.html
interview with British GQ ruclips.net/video/yZYQpge1W5s/видео.html
interview with Camille Paglia ruclips.net/video/v-hIVnmUdXM/видео.html
extras
gets good around 40;00 or something especially if you're a student like me ruclips.net/video/Urd0IK0WEWU/видео.html
why free speech is deep ruclips.net/video/eVvS3L_aBV4/видео.html
no really it's deep ruclips.net/video/3Sz2-6RNkjY/видео.html
this is ok too ruclips.net/video/8ABa4RdNPxU/видео.html
this is ok too (interview with GeenStijl
) ruclips.net/video/E6qBxn_hFDQ/видео.html
infectious disease and authoritarian belief (which might be relevant with covid19 going around) ruclips.net/video/vyMr8wkJkcc/видео.html
I only realized later on that he is a master of public speaking
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It is always refreshing to see a new video Professor!
Yeah, I'm have a suspicion that one day I will check his RUclips channel and it won't exist anymore.
That would be when the levee breaks, and we strike back.
OneSpecies I thin we should think it out when the time comes. Their are other mediums. And other options. I'm more interesting in moving things to a positive end, not just blind raging flails.
Nuh, no drama. Just a 100.000 tweets @RUclips.
Lecture from 2017 with 1 million views & 6 years past. The discussion & the information discussed is still going on today. Five stars
I find myself rewatching these videos and lectures 6 months later. The message hits again and reminds me of the importance. Thank you dr. Peterson
You're glowing again, professor. Thank you for making these videos!
Yes it seems he somehow managed to have a rest at some point!
*i need more of your speeches and words Doctor Peterson* This is absolutely amazing.
Dr. Peterson, thank you sir.
I sincerely hope that Ryerson U, or whatever they call it today, will invite this great thinker and Canadian back again for such a great discussion. This is what universities are supposed to do.
Professor Peterson, you are a genuine hero. Thank you.
My IQ goes up a few points every time I listen to Dr. Peterson.
So does mine. But then I go out into society and it drops back down again.
This guy's a hero!
I love Professor Peterson. A man of common sense and reason.
will pause 2 hours of my life anytime to hear from jordan peterson
I love how pissed he is. Hes had it with the bullshit! And whats so sad is that this is shit we should or do know yet we have thrown common sense out the window and hes gotta breakdown for the simpletons.
Having things work all the time makes us forget how privilege we are, is such an important notion to keep in mind.
22:45 to 23:30 he predicts Charlottesville... I got chills
He's in the medical community and gets the latest psychological information. Same with Cambridge analytica.