I've plowed through a ton of these reviews this year. Dunno if it's too early to call it, but I think Travis wins with the "what about my beach cruiser? ... but what about ALL my e bikes?" comment. Bravo, sir. Bravo.
I love my 2019 sight a2 large. So far it's a great all around bike. Some days i wish i bought the range as I'm more into down hill but the sight does well dh then i can ride it back up.
I have a '17 29er Sight (front fork changed to 150mm). I can tell you the Sight was one of the few 29ers that actually rides more nimble than a 27.5 bike, which is why I purchased it. I think on the Michigan terrain you guys were testing is ideal for the Sight. It is very stiff, highly playful, and super fast. It does have some short-comings in chunky western terrain, but most buyers don't live in the Rockies. Comparing any 29er wb length to the Ripley is not really just as the Ibis Ripley really is just sold one size down of 'normal' sizes. The XL ripley is shorter reach than the L Sight. And even given that, the Sight is much more nimble...but the Ripley does have the DW link.
Did you ride it with the 140 fork, and if so, how did it compare on climbs and downhill? I just had my LBS order everything to build one but went with the 140 Fox 36. I just sold my trail bike and selling my DH....hoping this will do it all (east coast, rocky, rooty - technical climbs and descents, bike park).
Yes with the 140mm Pike for 2 months. In terms of handling I can't tell any loss with a 150mm, but I also can't tell any really big riding gains by having the extra 10mm. The biggest difference was the Fox 36 was so much more supple than the Pike. The front wheel on the Sight stays glued to the ground (on either fork) even on really super steep uphills, which I love. The Fox 36 has an interchangeable air spring. So my Fox was ordered as a base 160mm fork but the shop changed it out to a 150mm. I assume the 140 is the same, can be changed to a different air spring if you ever want to add travel.
No. I purchased it in September, the only downhill park we have in the state had closed by that time. Personally, I find downhill to be the bike's weakness. Get's knocked off line easily in really chunky terrain (which we have a lot of). I think that's a function of the bike's playfulness and agility. It is more playful than stable. I live in a mountainous region. I have mine up for sale, so I can buy a Pivot or maybe a Santa Cruz.
I'm a Weagle snob, (DW-Link, Split Pivot, & DELTA,) and with a few exceptions, (like Split Infinity,) I usually hate other designs when it comes to climbing, especially out of the saddle. I enjoy my current Horst-derived 26" bike for what it is, but I've uttered the phrase, "I can't imagine paying for another Horst bike," plenty of times. I just test rode this bike on a whim and could not believe how well it climbed. WTH? It makes no sense, but damn, it was a nice climbing, plush descending bike.
There is nothing a horst link cant do that those other designs you listed can. The only definite difference is the wheel path. A frame designer can make a horst link have extremely similar characteristics as any other design and visa versa. Linkage design is big marketing. Unless you are extremely sensitive to a particular wheel path a horst link or single pivot type design is superior in nearly every aspect, especially in reliability and service.
You would do well on both; the differences the testers were discussing here are so subtle the average rider literally wont be able to notice. That said, get the Sight because I have one from 2014 and am biased :P [But seriously, I slay on XC - even cyclocross tracks - and bombed down mountains last summer on this bike with ease]
I've never ridden an Evil bike (was kinda turned off by the brand name) but do own the Sight. Personally I feel the Sight was built for someone that really likes to take control and not just point and shoot. If your style is to pop off every rock and choose challenging lines, the Sight might be for you. If you like to just plow over everything, then maybe not the best choice. I think the Sight would make a less skilled rider more skilled because it makes the rider give more input to control the bike. Have you considered a Ibis Ripley.
they rock, i got the 2018 Sight A1 27.5 ... the alloy version has the exact same geometry as the 2017/2018 carbon versions....only difference is the weight :)
Hey, knob jockies your videos were so much better when you weren't so wishy washy. I remember my first beer, everything was so cool man. Alright but seriously, I've been eyeing the trek fuel for a year now and I'm on the verge of dropping coins. Touch on some points not all the public knows about. Like the fact that the fuels rear shock performs at full compacity even under braking, unlike a million other bikes.I'm by no means wanting to jock trek, recently evil caught my attention now you're drooling over Norco. I want a fully I can have for years to come cause blue collar doesn't drop coins as often as maybe you can. So when you say awesome, stay true to yourself and quit playing the game, so your words hold some weight to the rest of us. Thanks brotatochips
I just went to the shop last week and ordered frame and all the parts for a sick build....will have better shocks than this review! Fox DPX2 and Fox 36
After calling Norco to ask a few questions about their bikes and recieving horrible customer service I could only imagine the nightmare it would be to file a warrenty claim or need anything else. Think I'll pass on Norco. There are to many other bike companies out there to that appreciate your business.
Sight vs Hightower vs Instinct vs Following MB?
I've plowed through a ton of these reviews this year. Dunno if it's too early to call it, but I think Travis wins with the "what about my beach cruiser? ... but what about ALL my e bikes?" comment. Bravo, sir. Bravo.
Been waiting all year for these... awesome
I love my 2019 sight a2 large. So far it's a great all around bike. Some days i wish i bought the range as I'm more into down hill but the sight does well dh then i can ride it back up.
Love to see this bike compared to the Intense Primer 29
Can you tell me how the Sight 29 compares to the Devinci Django 29.
How does the C2 compare to the better spec C1? Is the C1 less stable/planted on descents because of lighter carbon rims?
I have a '17 29er Sight (front fork changed to 150mm). I can tell you the Sight was one of the few 29ers that actually rides more nimble than a 27.5 bike, which is why I purchased it. I think on the Michigan terrain you guys were testing is ideal for the Sight. It is very stiff, highly playful, and super fast. It does have some short-comings in chunky western terrain, but most buyers don't live in the Rockies. Comparing any 29er wb length to the Ripley is not really just as the Ibis Ripley really is just sold one size down of 'normal' sizes. The XL ripley is shorter reach than the L Sight. And even given that, the Sight is much more nimble...but the Ripley does have the DW link.
Did you ride it with the 140 fork, and if so, how did it compare on climbs and downhill? I just had my LBS order everything to build one but went with the 140 Fox 36. I just sold my trail bike and selling my DH....hoping this will do it all (east coast, rocky, rooty - technical climbs and descents, bike park).
Yes with the 140mm Pike for 2 months. In terms of handling I can't tell any loss with a 150mm, but I also can't tell any really big riding gains by having the extra 10mm. The biggest difference was the Fox 36 was so much more supple than the Pike. The front wheel on the Sight stays glued to the ground (on either fork) even on really super steep uphills, which I love. The Fox 36 has an interchangeable air spring. So my Fox was ordered as a base 160mm fork but the shop changed it out to a 150mm. I assume the 140 is the same, can be changed to a different air spring if you ever want to add travel.
Yeah, the 140 is the same.....had to order the 160 and have it changed out. Have you used it in bike parks?
No. I purchased it in September, the only downhill park we have in the state had closed by that time. Personally, I find downhill to be the bike's weakness. Get's knocked off line easily in really chunky terrain (which we have a lot of). I think that's a function of the bike's playfulness and agility. It is more playful than stable. I live in a mountainous region. I have mine up for sale, so I can buy a Pivot or maybe a Santa Cruz.
I'm a Weagle snob, (DW-Link, Split Pivot, & DELTA,) and with a few exceptions, (like Split Infinity,) I usually hate other designs when it comes to climbing, especially out of the saddle. I enjoy my current Horst-derived 26" bike for what it is, but I've uttered the phrase, "I can't imagine paying for another Horst bike," plenty of times. I just test rode this bike on a whim and could not believe how well it climbed. WTH? It makes no sense, but damn, it was a nice climbing, plush descending bike.
There is nothing a horst link cant do that those other designs you listed can. The only definite difference is the wheel path. A frame designer can make a horst link have extremely similar characteristics as any other design and visa versa. Linkage design is big marketing. Unless you are extremely sensitive to a particular wheel path a horst link or single pivot type design is superior in nearly every aspect, especially in reliability and service.
To compare apples and oranges, how does it climb compared to the Yeti SB5.5?
Rearshock Norco Sight c2 2018 Length of size? Eye to eye. Thanks
For a less skilled rider do you think the following would be bad and this bike better or could the average rider do well on both
You would do well on both; the differences the testers were discussing here are so subtle the average rider literally wont be able to notice. That said, get the Sight because I have one from 2014 and am biased :P [But seriously, I slay on XC - even cyclocross tracks - and bombed down mountains last summer on this bike with ease]
Walter Kasper Get a following they are nicer by far
I would say test ride both.
I find my following MB does not smooths out the trails that much, you just hammer it and it goes.
I've never ridden an Evil bike (was kinda turned off by the brand name) but do own the Sight. Personally I feel the Sight was built for someone that really likes to take control and not just point and shoot. If your style is to pop off every rock and choose challenging lines, the Sight might be for you. If you like to just plow over everything, then maybe not the best choice. I think the Sight would make a less skilled rider more skilled because it makes the rider give more input to control the bike. Have you considered a Ibis Ripley.
How would the aluminum models compare?
The A1 looks awesome but damn no cable routing : (
they rock, i got the 2018 Sight A1 27.5 ... the alloy version has the exact same geometry as the 2017/2018 carbon versions....only difference is the weight :)
Hey, knob jockies your videos were so much better when you weren't so wishy washy. I remember my first beer, everything was so cool man. Alright but seriously, I've been eyeing the trek fuel for a year now and I'm on the verge of dropping coins. Touch on some points not all the public knows about. Like the fact that the fuels rear shock performs at full compacity even under braking, unlike a million other bikes.I'm by no means wanting to jock trek, recently evil caught my attention now you're drooling over Norco. I want a fully I can have for years to come cause blue collar doesn't drop coins as often as maybe you can. So when you say awesome, stay true to yourself and quit playing the game, so your words hold some weight to the rest of us. Thanks brotatochips
Is that Corey Taylor?
Pity they don't do a frame only version
They do www.norco.com/bikes/mountain/all-mountain/sight-carbon/sight-c-framekit/
they actually do mate, have a look on the norco site
I just went to the shop last week and ordered frame and all the parts for a sick build....will have better shocks than this review! Fox DPX2 and Fox 36
You can't get the frame in the uk, so I assume you are in North America...
Nick Adams nah, I live in Australia
Thank you!
i made it 1:32 seconds. the level of unprofessional talent here is too much. these guys are a product of a world i refuse to live in.
After calling Norco to ask a few questions about their bikes and recieving horrible customer service I could only imagine the nightmare it would be to file a warrenty claim or need anything else. Think I'll pass on Norco. There are to many other bike companies out there to that appreciate your business.
funny... i had a very pleasant experience with their CS
I had awesome service from them no complaints
Someone needs to grab an Iron before they grab a brew..