Thanks for verifying what I already thought about the Limited TRD Off-Road. It just looks like more truck for the money. I’d buy a Double Cab, simply because I need bed space for a small truck camper.
Always enjoy these reviews, but even more I enjoy the father son involvement more. You can see the proud papa Roman in the first 30 seconds. Great work fellas as always.
TOYOTA - is king buddy- the Tundra changed the half ton market in 2007 and people stood up and paid attention to it Gas mileage is poor- true point But reliability is everything
Reliability isn't cutting it anymore people are now getting money the vehicle is out of date for 30 k I need something that actually is somewhat modern
@@fbl5856 how modern does a truck have to be. It comes standard with safety tech that others only offer on their higher end models or don't offer at all, like collision avoidance with autonomous braking amd lane departure. What do the others offer that the tundra doesnt, gas mileage? A knob to back a trailer? Whoever needs that needs to learn how to drive. Only thing it lacks is massaging seats, which I don't need. Makes its max torque of 401 at a lower rpm than any other v8. Reliability is second to none, as is resale value. It does a great job at being a truck. It's only out add if you're a techie who needs all the latest gadgets and gimmickry. How long did it take for the domestics to catch up to the 5.7? Quite a while. Yes they've caught up now, but the 5.6 still holds its own. It is getting long in the tooth though but I'd still take it over the big 3 even if they do have more tech gadgets. None of my dad's tundras have ever been in the shop for anything but oil changes. And just a couple years ago none of the trucks had any of the tech stuff they have now. I like that it's basic and honest with no gimmickry or extra crap to go wrong like cylinder deactivation etc. It's a basic good truck. I drive a titan XD only because I wanted a little more capability than a half ton without the punishing ride of a 3/4 ton, otherwise I'd have bought a tundra. But these days there really are no bad trucks. They are all pretty reliable. But long term the tundra has an edge.
Best quote of the review 9:30. : “ The great thing about Toyota is they always move slowly, they are never going to be the Rabbit they are always going to be the Hare”. 🐇 🤔
OK I am thinking the same $50,000 for a 200,000 to 300,000 mile truck my 91 ford explorer hit 200,000 miles and all I want for Christmas is a new head cover seal. I can easily get a used truck to go 100,000 miles with less than $5,000 that's no scratches or dings and near perfect interior and air for $1300 I could do the same I just think used is better. Your only getting 10,000 dollars worth of materials for 50,000 out of your pocket
I'm a Tundra owner and I have to say the 19 TRD Pro is a waste of the extra money. In the TRD 4x4 Offroad, I get more interior features like heated seats and dual auto climate control in the Limited. The Bilstein suspension is just fine offroad and it has the same LSD as the pro. If you want to see it as a flagship offroad truck, why would you get rid of the locking dif??
I get that, but it's a full size truck without a locker. It definitely has a better suspension, but 99.9% of people won't see a difference since they won't be putting themselves in a position that the regular 4x4 Offroad trim couldn't get itself out of because the locker (and the confidence that comes with having one) are now gone. And as a couple people have mentioned already, if you're serious about off roading your 2019 Tundra, it might make more sense with this model to get a 4x4 and build your own offroad package.
I was a tundra owner. I had a 14 tss model. I loved it and still do. Tundra is a beast, but it is time for some update. I love the fact tundra keeps the same drivetrain each year. What other half ton do you get a big v8, 6 spd auto, and a big 4.30 rear gear?....none. I am just fine with the exterior if the truck, it looks right. The interior sucks balls. It’s so time for toyota to update the interior. The interior is what keeps me from owning one now. I would like to see a few more features and a fresh design inside before i buy another.
@@DH-hp7nv if tu dra got a combined 19-20, I'd trade my Tacoma
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I understand that the tires don't look beefy enough but let's face it -- every Tundra sold will spend the vast majority of its life on the tarmac, that's just the way it is. And for that, and possibly also for winter conditions, the tires look good enough.
Daniel Kvasnička Yeah i dont really get that opinion of theirs. They love the land cruiser and it looks pretty lame - but performs well. They hate the “look” of these Michelins but as they admitted it does well. More goes into a tire than just the tread pattern. The LTX AT2 is a very good tire. Not the best but good. Hell they even have a video of the blue tundra up in Canada with these same tires going through 2 ft of mud. Not sure how they can hate on a tire that constantly performs well for them.
I have a 16 trd off road with the same ltx tires. I thought I would hate them. 2.5 years later and 50,000 km they are still good. Not much wear, not much noise, good enough in snow if you can drive. They do hyrdoplane more than knobbier tires though.
Great video. I’m glad you really hit on the durability/dependability of the Tundra. I would consider buying a Ram or F150 again but my 2007 Tundra keeps running like a champ with close to 300,000 miles and zero issues. Yes the Tundra needs a redesign and should be here in 2021, but if you’re looking for a long term investment my advice is get the Tundra. If you’re going to buy a new truck every other year like I used to do before I worried about paying for kids college and my retirement then I would get a new Ram or F150. Keep up the good work on your videos.
2019: TRD Pro Tundra for $51k 2023: SR5 Tundra Off-road for $50k+ 4 years and cost of trucks went from top trim to getting knocked down to mid-range trim but for the same price...
after I watched this video I bought a 2019 TRD PRO... I have to say I'm really really happy... love the 5.7, love the fox suspension, love the new LED lights, and the truck cost me 50k, which is way better than the competition
@@SitesThatSuckLOL I know, they are not cheap but all the others are getting way more expensive... and I bet when the next gen Tundra finally come. the price for a TRD PRO will be way higher.
DJ12Ema 50k is a great deal when you are talking about a truck with 4x4 in today’s market. In my opinion better value for money than the over priced and over hyped Raptor at 90k. I bet your Tundra will smoke that Raptor off road it’s not all about speed.
@@Phantom096 You can get the Raptor at 60K and no the TRD will not smoke it.....Raptor is King of the hill when it comes to off road. I don't own either but I have watched and done enough research on both of them.
The more I see new trucks and their features, the more Toyota seems to be "falling behind". And that's the reason why I'm considering one more every year.
i have a 2012 tundra 4x4 5.7 got it new w/8miles back in nov2012. its has 109K on it know with zero issues the times I do go off-road it hasn't left me stuck yet and she loves to drink gas no doubt
Been driving my 2019 Tundra TRD Pro "Super White" since 2019 and still LOVE it. Truck only has 25,500 miles on it now, we use the wife's Highlander for trips. Drove Tacoma's since they came out, but this truck is just so big and useful. Funny thing is that while towing my 23 ft bay boat, it gets the same MPG as the Tacoma did, between 11 and 12. The Tacoma really struggled pulling the boat, could not stay in high gear. The Tundra doesn't even know it's behind me. Also, I average between 17-20 MPG normal driving.
I agree with Tommy with Buy it. Toyota is a brand you buy because it's a brand you'll want to keep for a long time since it will last you a long time trouble free. Any of the other brands I would lease because I wouldn't want to keep it when it is out of warranty. But if Roman leases it I would be more than happy to buy it off lease. This way the initial (and greatest) drop in depreciation will bring a still new truck down to a very attractive price.
I don’t mind the price of a tank of gas... it lasts me a month. The F150 isn’t a daily driver... but I’d prefer to have the larger tank. Usually about $75 to fill.
My f150 is a daily driver and I get 700 plus miles or 6 weeks between fill ups. Straight hi way driving is over 800 miles per tank. I've done that twice. I could careless what it costs to fill it.
I’ll take the residual value every time. All those shortcomings are of no consequence. On other trucks, yes those are shortcomings. But when your truck statistically will last longer and un arguably be worth more it’s an easy choice. How much is 1-2 mpg compared to loss of value
Preferences are “this or that”... Let’s be thankful that we are blessed enough to drive up a mountain after breakfast, and help our friends and family move to an apartment by dinner. 🙌🏻
The things you guys say are missing, Ford GM and Dodge have, problem is that shits always broken. I know the MSRP is on the high side but I would rather pay for a "no frills" truck that is going to last me.
This is for Tommy. I just bought the same truck. Nice White with a bed liner and few add ins. You hit it on the mark. For me a beach and wash board roads.. All most heaven . Your take on this truck is spot on. Love it.( 2019 TRD Pro ). Thanks. Now send me some patches. LOL
I never understood the reasoning for leasing a Toyota (or most vehicles for that matter). Toyota resale value is so high, you would lose far more money leasing, rather than buy and re-sell in a couple years.
Cars And Zebras you don't understand leasing well, the buyout on a vehicle that holds its value means it's positive equity at end of your lease Example, buyout on a 39 month lease on a 4runner in Canada is 23k. They are selling here for mid to upper 30's after 39 months. You'll have the same positive equity as if you financed the vehicle. Purchase price minus lease payments equals buyout. No magical missing money. Same as if you subtracted your finance payments from the purchase price
Cars And Zebras well if you have close to 10k in positive equity and simply turn in a lease at the end then I guess there's no help for people that stupid. You can't be serious
I have a Tacoma a 2017 TRD. I have never owned a Toyota before and there was no way I was going to finance for 4 and 1/2 5 years even though I usually pay off car loans way before that. I didn't want to be locked into something for multiple multiple years and wind up hating it. I got mine at the end of the year I got a $1,000 rebate trade, no money down negotiated 20000 miles a year the residual buyout is 26k after 3 years.
I just wanted to say, as a father of two boys (9 and 7), I love the chemistry you guys have and the passion for (what I'm assuming) is a family business. It's great to see! Also, super high quality video, loved the commentary, camera work, etc. Keep it up, guys!
Purchased one 10 days ago and my is first Toyota. I laughed at the Snarfs search. My experience on our first road trip was searching for Cheddars and it only listed Hooters. Gave us a good laugh. Overall, I like it but wish it had heated seats, power folding mirrors, and blind spot monitoring.
I went with the TRD Pro. I almost went for the Platinum which would have had those options. Funny I did not even want the sunroof but it is standard on the pro.
i really like this son and father revue its really honest keep it up and happy new year. btw i think the tundra is the best looking truck its so gorgeous with that exhaust sound
TRD Pro is a great truck. Wish my pocket is deeper so I can get 1. But I got the SR5 Crewmax with TRD Off-road package. By far, I love the truck so much.
The locking rear differential is very important when you are working out in the middle of nowhere trying to climb a step hill with a load of fencing material on back of your truck, very important feature when you need to get to the end of the line. But the Toyota Tundra TRD Pro is a very reliable truck. It's not always about off - roading it's about working in some pretty tuff lanscapes.
My old toyota which i still drive, never had any of these fancy bells and whistles, 85 4x4 and 1999 tacoma, less stuff to break. Guess i am old school now, my son wants heated seats, blue tooth, touch screen, when he is old enough he can buy his own, it's a work truck period, 30 years in the oilfields, truck outlasted my marriage.
Finally a TFL where they aren't bashing the Tundra. I'd buy it and still trade it in, in 3 years for a new model with the equity built up instead of a lease.
larry smith I prefer how dodge had the folding middle seat In front I would trade that “weapons cache" of a middle storage for an optional folding seat. at least they build them in Texas. Lolz if nobody buys Chevy they move to China.
I bought a 2019 ford raptor and I love the look. This thing looks very nice as well. I simply wanted the best off road performance truck straight from factory so this and the Rebel didn’t come close.
I suppose if you want or need heated and ventilated seats, you could go with the 1794 or Platinum then upgrade the suspension yourself to Fox, King, Icon etc, etc.
Everyone has their taste but I prefer the simplicity. Sure better milage would be nice & selectable lockers front & rear would be great!! Also an option for a more aggresive tire choice at the dealer would be cool too for which maybe some dealers do.
Instead of buying the TRD Pro, buy the Platinum and buy all the accessories the TRD Pro comes with, even the suspension, that’s what I did and I couldn’t be happier. I put about 3000 miles a month, and half of that is off-road, it has never let me down, even in the muddiest conditions. Very reliable truck.
just did 3000 miles over Christmas in a 2019 Tundra Platinum. I was surprised the PRO did not have heated seats, dual climate, etc, since that is all available in the Platinum version. Guess the offroad goodies had to limit the interior goodies to make the price point. I changed out the tire to BFG KO2 before the trip, and the ride was exceptional. Average speed for the trip was 70-75, and gas mileage was 16-16.5 (calculated but was close to the computer). A little over 500 miles per tank (gas gauge leave about 5-10 gallons in the tank when on "E"). the 500 mile range was critical when OHIO gas price was $1.77, and New York thruway was $2.89... got home as price nearby was closer to $2.25. Family and friends were very happy with the ride, and commented on it. As far as suspension, I have stock Toyota, and at some point it will be replace. Tires are 20 inches, and that puts 70-74 MPH below 2000 RPM, but still have the 4.30 rear when needed. The rear will find a Air Locker added shortly, but had no problems with highway travel or around the farm. Overall, happy with the truck and not sorry to have passed on Ford or Chevy/GMC. I liked your review, and you should try it on the IKE towing test. Do not think it would be much worse that the Ford F150 Eco Boost at 3.3mpg(?), but would be nice to compare.
I have a serious question to ask about salt on the roads and the brine that they put out on the roads nowadays. Will a Tundra with a metal body last you longer then a F-150 with a an aluminum body? Aluminum still corrodes but it does not rust. We should look at doing a long-term test of the first-year aluminum Bodied F-150 and keep tabs on it when it starts to show corrosion. I know most trucks are rusting underneath the back corner of the cab and I would probably get a good rust proof inside there sprayed when I buy the vehicle. Just something to keep in mind and bring up on your next live show. Thanks guys
John jay, I share your concern, living in PA. they spray that brine just about every day in the winter. I'm constantly going to the pressure washer to wash the undercarriage.
@@pennsyltuckyden9823 Yep, gotta keep em clean. I have a 2004 GMC and everyone else has rotted bumpers, rockers, and cab corners. Mine is still clean underneath.
my uncle has already run his tundra to 500,000 km........(312k miles) he has changed the oil and the wheels.......... nothing else has needed replacing......
I drove this truck 8years. It was a built proof truck. I put 280k miles without any trouble and then sold to my cousine. It became favourite truck. Its long lasting elephant. People should buy it if they want trouble free full size truck.
My last Silverado, I bought new and had it 2 years. It had 5 complete electrical failures. After the 5th, I traded for a new 2007 Tundra. I'm currently driving my 3rd Tundra, a 2019 with the 1794 trim. Never had a problem with any of them. Enough said.
Sorry to hear that man but it happens my girlfriends dad has a 2000 Silverado and it has over 280,000 miles and it's still going only problem is it need a new transmission around 180,000 miles but I know how he drives it so it did good.
If you can get the TRD Pro for MSRP or a below it’s worth it. If the dealer has the typical $5k-10k markup, IMO get a Platinum or 1794 and build the suspension, wheels, and tires yourself.
Midmo_Platinum I agree, I love the interior in the platinum editions. The suspension system on the trd pro is not necessary for a mostly daily highway/slight off road use. I personally have an 16 sr5 with a 3” front 1” rear lift on 33’s and it’s perfect for almost every situation.
Chad Krause I brought a Platinum and built it up. Only thing about the Pro that you can’t add easily is the bed stamp, everything else you can add or add better components and have a more upscale interior. I also got my Platinum well below MSRP, at the time dealer was asking $5,000 over MSRP for the Pros. After doing all my upgrades, I’m still below what I would have spent if I bought a TRD Pro over my Platinum
Bought my 08 5.7 SR5 Tundra new. I avoided local dishonest Toyota dealer service dept when at all possible - refused to even buy it from them. I have a competent honest Toyota mechanic for routine maintenance. It still runs like new and tows like a champ 12 years later - long after all payments are gone. I am not addicted to the "gotta have new" trap and not impressed with un-needed gizmos and dislike the tracking devices stick on the new ones.
The tundra is “old”, but it has a great power train, and it’s very reliable. Of course their will be a ‘lemon’, or flaw here, and there, but that’s just a side effect of mass production. The Tundra is essentially old faithful. That’s not always a bad thing.
I like it. Its dependable not to much computer and yes it's out dated but toyota is one off those companies that you can add whatever to it from the factory besides all that toyota and chevies are the best
I prefer my colum shifted six passenger seating config on my 16 trd off road tundra. Trucks with the car style shifter dont do it for me. Too cramped beside my right knee. With the colum you get all that room on the floor for gloves, hats, the wifes purse lol.
@@andymorton1737 yeah it's way more versatile but sadly a much less common configuration these days. I had to search it out being you don't see many with the TRD off road option with colume shifter.
Not sure why the hate for no locker. My ‘18 Limited Tundra on the factory bridgestones, Auto LSD engaged, made it up loose dirt hills on my property easier than the ‘15 High Country I traded in for it that had the G80 locker. I always had to engage 4WD on the high country because it’d just sit and spin. The Tundra transferring power to the tires with grip seemed to work better. The High Country had Bridgestone Dueler AT’s and the Tundra has HT’s. And of course as I like to mention the High Country had to go into the dealer 6 times by 27k miles and the 6th time was for a radiator replacement due to it leaking. So far all I’ve done is have the oil changed once in the Tundra.
I have a question, concerning my build sheet. On all the options it has "PIO or FIO" what does that mean? This is for a 2022 Tundra SR5 double cab. All the options that I want. The MSRP is $43,755.00 Accessories $8,398.00 total price $53,848.00. How much should the total out the door price be?
Tow up to 10k lbs., would you buy the 2021Toyota Pro or the 2021 Ford F250 Tremor 7.3 Godzilla motor with all the problems that are now starting to come out?
I have an '03 Limited V8 with ~318,000 km (197,500 miles) and everything works. Swapped the worn out (and original) XREAS shocks for Bilsteins just over a year ago, and changed the stereo to a new Pioneer. I do have heated seats, automatic climate control, and Android Auto/Apple Car Play. What I don't have is the $1000/month payment. 😊💵
I purchased a new 2019 Tundra double cab limited and my fuel consumption is very similar to my 2014 Silverado 5.3. The Tundra is worse unloaded and better than the chev with a 10,000 pound dump trailer. Much better throttle response and firm suspension. Overall a tighter stronger truck. Not to mention I spent $6000+ in maintenance and repairs after 5 years and 150,000 km.
I will admit I saw one of these the other day driving around, and the exhaust sound was awesome for a stock truck. The only other stock truck that might have a sound that nice is the Power Wagon.
Cars And Zebras, it does have a nice sounding exhaust note but the drone of it will become very annoying over time especially on long drives or road trips.
The Tundra has a 38 gallon gas tank. My 2015 F250 Diesel came with 26 gallon fuel tank. Figure that one out. I replaced it with an awesome 50 gallon Titan tank.
People always comment about tech missing from the Tundra, can anyone tell me what tech it is missing? The Tundra has blind spot assist, radar cruise control, blind spot assist, back up collision sensors, bluetooth, parking sensors. The only thing I can really think of is a heated steering wheel and cooled seats. These things are luxury items though and this thing is a truck not an S-Class Mercedes, although I’m pretty sure the Tundra even gives that a run for its money with the insane rear leg room.
Half the time tommy doesn't know what he is talking about or just reading off a piece of paper definitely doesn't add anything to these videos only makes them worse
I have a 19' tundra SR5 offroad and love it. Save some cash and go with SR5. Owned Nissan and Chevys in the past. This tundra is hands down the best I've owned
If you divide the Tundra price by the 20 year lifespan, this is definitely worth buying. Of course a more basic SR5 would be an even better value if you can 'survive' without noisy exhaust and black rims ;)
I have a Tacoma TRD offroad and it has headed seats, locker, leather etc... I feel like this "Pro" is a basic stripped down model without any added features? They should be available, right?
I think for that price you get way more tech and a nicer looking vehicle and more efficient trucks in the same market. That is why they are loosing market share.
I also think the refresh every two or three years makes people want to constantly upgrade. On top of that when it's in warranty who cares about repairs? That's why toyota hasn't captured the market. Also the competition loses value so fast so it makes it affordable for people to get into.
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I just bought a 2020 with 40k miles, I am going to keep this truck for at least my son turns 16. He’s 4 months right now
The beauty of the Tundra is it has a tractor like drive train and my grandma can figure out how the AC works.
no one ever regrets buying a Tundra
Peter Palffy **toyota
This channel should be named "The View".
AGREED
They have not redesigned since 2007.....
Stacy Clarkson they redesigned in 2014 dummy😂
Forget it, and wait for Toyota to refresh it in 2045.
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Thanks for verifying what I already thought about the Limited TRD Off-Road. It just looks like more truck for the money. I’d buy a Double Cab, simply because I need bed space for a small truck camper.
I own a 06 Toyota Tundra (1st generation) and i really love it , over 185,000 miles and still going strong
Buy It! Forget those turbos or cylinder deactivation so problematic. Newer isnt always better.
Still driving my 31 yr old Toyota- simple and long lasting!
Jimmie G yeah but 10mpg in 2019 is shit
@@Zeffy55 What you spend on fuel now you could save down the road on repairs. I'm not even a Toyota guy
Agreed, but people nowadays want trucks that ride and look like a Bentley inside.
Always enjoy these reviews, but even more I enjoy the father son involvement more. You can see the proud papa Roman in the first 30 seconds. Great work fellas as always.
Tommy is phenomenal on tfl. Savant when it comes to facts
Yes. I agree.
Indeed. Tommy has made Roman improve. Great team!
TOYOTA - is king buddy- the Tundra changed the half ton market in 2007 and people stood up and paid attention to it
Gas mileage is poor- true point
But reliability is everything
Reliability is of Toyota is falling, getting close to the other 3 manufactures my 2018 Tundra is the 2 most problematic truck since my 1999 silverado
Jeff Bang I understand u probably having issues with the safety tech but not drivetrain
Reliability isn't cutting it anymore people are now getting money the vehicle is out of date for 30 k I need something that actually is somewhat modern
@@fbl5856 how modern does a truck have to be. It comes standard with safety tech that others only offer on their higher end models or don't offer at all, like collision avoidance with autonomous braking amd lane departure. What do the others offer that the tundra doesnt, gas mileage? A knob to back a trailer? Whoever needs that needs to learn how to drive. Only thing it lacks is massaging seats, which I don't need. Makes its max torque of 401 at a lower rpm than any other v8. Reliability is second to none, as is resale value. It does a great job at being a truck. It's only out add if you're a techie who needs all the latest gadgets and gimmickry. How long did it take for the domestics to catch up to the 5.7? Quite a while. Yes they've caught up now, but the 5.6 still holds its own. It is getting long in the tooth though but I'd still take it over the big 3 even if they do have more tech gadgets. None of my dad's tundras have ever been in the shop for anything but oil changes. And just a couple years ago none of the trucks had any of the tech stuff they have now. I like that it's basic and honest with no gimmickry or extra crap to go wrong like cylinder deactivation etc. It's a basic good truck. I drive a titan XD only because I wanted a little more capability than a half ton without the punishing ride of a 3/4 ton, otherwise I'd have bought a tundra. But these days there really are no bad trucks. They are all pretty reliable. But long term the tundra has an edge.
@@fbl5856 If only they would update the driveline. Something that got 300 hp and 24 mpg
Best quote of the review 9:30. : “ The great thing about Toyota is they always move slowly, they are never going to be the Rabbit they are always going to be the Hare”. 🐇 🤔
I was wondering if anyone else caught that. LOL...
Goes along with his statement near the beginning: "these engines will run 200-300 miles without a rebuild"
I was thinking about that for a few minutes too lol
Do the they mean tortoise? Lol
OK I am thinking the same $50,000 for a 200,000 to 300,000 mile truck my 91 ford explorer hit 200,000 miles and all I want for Christmas is a new head cover seal. I can easily get a used truck to go 100,000 miles with less than $5,000 that's no scratches or dings and near perfect interior and air for $1300 I could do the same I just think used is better. Your only getting 10,000 dollars worth of materials for 50,000 out of your pocket
I'm a Tundra owner and I have to say the 19 TRD Pro is a waste of the extra money. In the TRD 4x4 Offroad, I get more interior features like heated seats and dual auto climate control in the Limited. The Bilstein suspension is just fine offroad and it has the same LSD as the pro. If you want to see it as a flagship offroad truck, why would you get rid of the locking dif??
The fox shocks are amazing, especially for the higher speed off road in the desert. Put 380k miles on my truck and no issues.
I get that, but it's a full size truck without a locker. It definitely has a better suspension, but 99.9% of people won't see a difference since they won't be putting themselves in a position that the regular 4x4 Offroad trim couldn't get itself out of because the locker (and the confidence that comes with having one) are now gone. And as a couple people have mentioned already, if you're serious about off roading your 2019 Tundra, it might make more sense with this model to get a 4x4 and build your own offroad package.
I was a tundra owner. I had a 14 tss model. I loved it and still do. Tundra is a beast, but it is time for some update. I love the fact tundra keeps the same drivetrain each year. What other half ton do you get a big v8, 6 spd auto, and a big 4.30 rear gear?....none. I am just fine with the exterior if the truck, it looks right. The interior sucks balls. It’s so time for toyota to update the interior. The interior is what keeps me from owning one now. I would like to see a few more features and a fresh design inside before i buy another.
It'll have better resale value. Trd pro is fun
@@DH-hp7nv if tu dra got a combined 19-20, I'd trade my Tacoma
I understand that the tires don't look beefy enough but let's face it -- every Tundra sold will spend the vast majority of its life on the tarmac, that's just the way it is. And for that, and possibly also for winter conditions, the tires look good enough.
Daniel Kvasnička Yeah i dont really get that opinion of theirs. They love the land cruiser and it looks pretty lame - but performs well. They hate the “look” of these Michelins but as they admitted it does well. More goes into a tire than just the tread pattern. The LTX AT2 is a very good tire. Not the best but good. Hell they even have a video of the blue tundra up in Canada with these same tires going through 2 ft of mud. Not sure how they can hate on a tire that constantly performs well for them.
I have a 16 trd off road with the same ltx tires. I thought I would hate them. 2.5 years later and 50,000 km they are still good. Not much wear, not much noise, good enough in snow if you can drive. They do hyrdoplane more than knobbier tires though.
Even those that do replace it with beefy off-road tires, spend 99.999% of its time on tarmac.
Great video. I’m glad you really hit on the durability/dependability of the Tundra. I would consider buying a Ram or F150 again but my 2007 Tundra keeps running like a champ with close to 300,000 miles and zero issues. Yes the Tundra needs a redesign and should be here in 2021, but if you’re looking for a long term investment my advice is get the Tundra. If you’re going to buy a new truck every other year like I used to do before I worried about paying for kids college and my retirement then I would get a new Ram or F150. Keep up the good work on your videos.
I got a new toyota tacoma, used it for 3 years and when i sold it i got 80% of my money back. Top that!
I was shocked when I looked at KBB on my 2015 Tacoma. Trading in for the Tundra.
@@christopherl4645 I want to do the same thing. Love the Tacoma but it's too small for my family. One more year and then buying back into a Tundra
I paid 28k for a new silverado 2500 LS in 2004 and sold it in 2016 for $15,000. cash! Beat that!
It had 142,000 miles on the odo
@@solarfry did you put a gun to that guy head?
2019: TRD Pro Tundra for $51k
2023: SR5 Tundra Off-road for $50k+
4 years and cost of trucks went from top trim to getting knocked down to mid-range trim but for the same price...
Love the father and son combo....
Appreciate pop cause you only have one.
You guys are great!
after I watched this video I bought a 2019 TRD PRO... I have to say I'm really really happy... love the 5.7, love the fox suspension, love the new LED lights, and the truck cost me 50k, which is way better than the competition
For 50K you better love it.
@@SitesThatSuckLOL I know, they are not cheap but all the others are getting way more expensive... and I bet when the next gen Tundra finally come. the price for a TRD PRO will be way higher.
DJ12Ema 50k is a great deal when you are talking about a truck with 4x4 in today’s market.
In my opinion better value for money than the over priced and over hyped Raptor at 90k.
I bet your Tundra will smoke that Raptor off road it’s not all about speed.
@@Phantom096 You can get the Raptor at 60K and no the TRD will not smoke it.....Raptor is King of the hill when it comes to off road. I don't own either but I have watched and done enough research on both of them.
My brother has a 2018 Trd tundra and its a great truck. We take it off road a he hauls his cars with it and it runs great.
I can go to bed on a stressful day with that almost extinct v8 sound.
The more I see new trucks and their features, the more Toyota seems to be "falling behind". And that's the reason why I'm considering one more every year.
Probably one of the best videos put together, with their honest opinion about the 2019 Tundra. Great Job!
i have a 2012 tundra 4x4 5.7 got it new w/8miles back in nov2012. its has 109K on it know with zero issues the times I do go off-road it hasn't left me stuck yet and she loves to drink gas no doubt
@Sham Pain Jones really ?. No man no issues with it However I do baby yet and it doesn't see the typical truck use
Gilbert Serna ruclips.net/video/GWPsziPUBIo/видео.html that’s cause your not in a 2019 🤣🤣🤣 then you’ll get stuck
How do the 2013 models compare to the 2012 in terms of problems?
Just bought a 2011 Tundra 5.7 with 241k miles, what an absolute tank and yes it drinks gas ahahaha
Been driving my 2019 Tundra TRD Pro "Super White" since 2019 and still LOVE it. Truck only has 25,500 miles on it now, we use the wife's Highlander for trips. Drove Tacoma's since they came out, but this truck is just so big and useful. Funny thing is that while towing my 23 ft bay boat, it gets the same MPG as the Tacoma did, between 11 and 12. The Tacoma really struggled pulling the boat, could not stay in high gear. The Tundra doesn't even know it's behind me. Also, I average between 17-20 MPG normal driving.
I believe Tommy is slowly transitioning to the toyota world. Just bought a 2019 toyota tundra ( 2018) made 10 days ago) but I love it
I love how thorough and honest your reviews are
I agree with Tommy with Buy it. Toyota is a brand you buy because it's a brand you'll want to keep for a long time since it will last you a long time trouble free. Any of the other brands I would lease because I wouldn't want to keep it when it is out of warranty. But if Roman leases it I would be more than happy to buy it off lease. This way the initial (and greatest) drop in depreciation will bring a still new truck down to a very attractive price.
My 2016 F-150 has a 36 gallon tank.. and I love that option.
Thomas Rossi that’s awesome but you must cry when you gotta fill it all way
Mine does 2 and love it get 700 miles for full tank and takes like $70 to fill up here in Texas
Thomas Rossi 👍🏾👍🏾 They failed to read the sheet, it comes with an option of a 38 gallon tank🧐
I don’t mind the price of a tank of gas... it lasts me a month. The F150 isn’t a daily driver... but I’d prefer to have the larger tank. Usually about $75 to fill.
My f150 is a daily driver and I get 700 plus miles or 6 weeks between fill ups. Straight hi way driving is over 800 miles per tank. I've done that twice. I could careless what it costs to fill it.
Good honest review. I agree with your statements. Love the truck, hate the price and mileage, but..... It is a Toyota and will outlast me too.
I’ll take the residual value every time. All those shortcomings are of no consequence. On other trucks, yes those are shortcomings. But when your truck statistically will last longer and un arguably be worth more it’s an easy choice. How much is 1-2 mpg compared to loss of value
Its not 1-2, more like 6-7. Spending 4000 more over 5 years of ownership negates the "reliability" factor.
@@dochollywood1921 beat spending 50K+ every couple years to buy a new one. Not to mention time loss due to trucks being in the shop all the time.
The gas tank is 38 gallons. A 3rd gen is most likely coming in the Fall of 2020. The biggest misses are the rear open diff and the 32 inch tires.
Preferences are “this or that”...
Let’s be thankful that we are blessed enough to drive up a mountain after breakfast, and help our friends and family move to an apartment by dinner.
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The things you guys say are missing, Ford GM and Dodge have, problem is that shits always broken. I know the MSRP is on the high side but I would rather pay for a "no frills" truck that is going to last me.
Except having a rusted out frame
This is for Tommy.
I just bought the same truck.
Nice White with a bed liner and few add ins.
You hit it on the mark.
For me a beach and wash board roads..
All most heaven .
Your take on this truck is spot on.
Love it.( 2019 TRD Pro ).
Thanks. Now send me some patches. LOL
I never understood the reasoning for leasing a Toyota (or most vehicles for that matter). Toyota resale value is so high, you would lose far more money leasing, rather than buy and re-sell in a couple years.
Cars And Zebras you don't understand leasing well, the buyout on a vehicle that holds its value means it's positive equity at end of your lease
Example, buyout on a 39 month lease on a 4runner in Canada is 23k. They are selling here for mid to upper 30's after 39 months. You'll have the same positive equity as if you financed the vehicle.
Purchase price minus lease payments equals buyout. No magical missing money. Same as if you subtracted your finance payments from the purchase price
@@northerntoyota7584 - Did I say buy-out? No, because most people don't do that. Most turn in the vehicle after a lease and don't utilize a buyout.
Cars And Zebras well if you have close to 10k in positive equity and simply turn in a lease at the end then I guess there's no help for people that stupid. You can't be serious
Good video
I have a Tacoma a 2017 TRD. I have never owned a Toyota before and there was no way I was going to finance for 4 and 1/2 5 years even though I usually pay off car loans way before that. I didn't want to be locked into something for multiple multiple years and wind up hating it. I got mine at the end of the year I got a $1,000 rebate trade, no money down negotiated 20000 miles a year the residual buyout is 26k after 3 years.
I just wanted to say, as a father of two boys (9 and 7), I love the chemistry you guys have and the passion for (what I'm assuming) is a family business. It's great to see! Also, super high quality video, loved the commentary, camera work, etc. Keep it up, guys!
Purchased one 10 days ago and my is first Toyota. I laughed at the Snarfs search. My experience on our first road trip was searching for Cheddars and it only listed Hooters. Gave us a good laugh. Overall, I like it but wish it had heated seats, power folding mirrors, and blind spot monitoring.
What trim of tundra did you get? my 2012 limited has all that plus sunroof except for blind spot monitoring
I went with the TRD Pro. I almost went for the Platinum which would have had those options. Funny I did not even want the sunroof but it is standard on the pro.
I like Google navigation much better than anything. Toyota Entune does not have apple car or android auto capability.
Steve Rowe either way our tundras are going to last forever!!
Have a 2018 1794 trd off road. Bought it because I wanted comfort and didn't want to be left on side of road 5 years from now
Breaking News...........Toyota announces updated Tundra in 2040, this will include an all new "Scoop on a Scoop on a Scoop!"
hahaha...funnie
Sacapuntas, you win.
But will they actually function???
@@riconavy1 Not yet determined. Toyota is still doing market research to see if the Tundra fans want "real" or "simulated" scoops.
NEWS FLASH!!! The Tundra you buy today will last until 2040 when the new one comes out!!!!
i really like this son and father revue its really honest keep it up and happy new year. btw i think the tundra is the best looking truck its so gorgeous with that exhaust sound
TRD Pro is a great truck. Wish my pocket is deeper so I can get 1. But I got the SR5 Crewmax with TRD Off-road package. By far, I love the truck so much.
Great video a lot of good info. I take delivery soon of my new Toyota Tundra and can't wait to check out the goodies you show on your video.
The locking rear differential is very important when you are working out in the middle of nowhere trying to climb a step hill with a load of fencing material on back of your truck, very important feature when you need to get to the end of the line. But the Toyota Tundra TRD Pro is a very reliable truck. It's not always about off - roading it's about working in some pretty tuff lanscapes.
One of the best reviews ive watched. Great job guys!
My old toyota which i still drive, never had any of these fancy bells and whistles, 85 4x4 and 1999 tacoma, less stuff to break. Guess i am old school now, my son wants heated seats, blue tooth, touch screen, when he is old enough he can buy his own, it's a work truck period, 30 years in the oilfields, truck outlasted my marriage.
Finally a TFL where they aren't bashing the Tundra. I'd buy it and still trade it in, in 3 years for a new model with the equity built up instead of a lease.
Agree that it’s a beautiful truck
And it was just as pretty 10 years ago
Time for an update
Limited slip is still a very good traction aid. Plus it’s automatic so you never have to worry about leaning it on while on tarmac
It’s still better than a ford and a Chevy
larry smith I prefer how dodge had the folding middle seat In front I would trade that “weapons cache" of a middle storage for an optional folding seat.
at least they build them in Texas. Lolz if nobody buys Chevy they move to China.
I'm a Chevy guy, and am torn between the Tundra TRD Pro or the Chevy RST Z71
Lo Xpectationz I always believe that if you plan on keeping it long term I would just go with the Tundra.
That not what the market says..Toyota does build the best cars,why that's what the market says.
I bought a 2019 ford raptor and I love the look. This thing looks very nice as well. I simply wanted the best off road performance truck straight from factory so this and the Rebel didn’t come close.
I suppose if you want or need heated and ventilated seats, you could go with the 1794 or Platinum then upgrade the suspension yourself to Fox, King, Icon etc, etc.
The Limited also has it.
Love my 08 Tundra bought it for 18500 and still bookstore 21 never had that problem out of it
9:36 i think you meant "tortoise" 😂
Everyone has their taste but I prefer the simplicity. Sure better milage would be nice & selectable lockers front & rear would be great!! Also an option for a more aggresive tire choice at the dealer would be cool too for which maybe some dealers do.
Thank you for pointing out that the most off road package has the most on road tire!!!!!
Instead of buying the TRD Pro, buy the Platinum and buy all the accessories the TRD Pro comes with, even the suspension, that’s what I did and I couldn’t be happier. I put about 3000 miles a month, and half of that is off-road, it has never let me down, even in the muddiest conditions. Very reliable truck.
just did 3000 miles over Christmas in a 2019 Tundra Platinum. I was surprised the PRO did not have heated seats, dual climate, etc, since that is all available in the Platinum version. Guess the offroad goodies had to limit the interior goodies to make the price point. I changed out the tire to BFG KO2 before the trip, and the ride was exceptional. Average speed for the trip was 70-75, and gas mileage was 16-16.5 (calculated but was close to the computer). A little over 500 miles per tank (gas gauge leave about 5-10 gallons in the tank when on "E"). the 500 mile range was critical when OHIO gas price was $1.77, and New York thruway was $2.89... got home as price nearby was closer to $2.25. Family and friends were very happy with the ride, and commented on it. As far as suspension, I have stock Toyota, and at some point it will be replace. Tires are 20 inches, and that puts 70-74 MPH below 2000 RPM, but still have the 4.30 rear when needed. The rear will find a Air Locker added shortly, but had no problems with highway travel or around the farm. Overall, happy with the truck and not sorry to have passed on Ford or Chevy/GMC. I liked your review, and you should try it on the IKE towing test. Do not think it would be much worse that the Ford F150 Eco Boost at 3.3mpg(?), but would be nice to compare.
I'd like to see a longer bed option for the crew cab.
I have a serious question to ask about salt on the roads and the brine that they put out on the roads nowadays. Will a Tundra with a metal body last you longer then a F-150 with a an aluminum body? Aluminum still corrodes but it does not rust. We should look at doing a long-term test of the first-year aluminum Bodied F-150 and keep tabs on it when it starts to show corrosion. I know most trucks are rusting underneath the back corner of the cab and I would probably get a good rust proof inside there sprayed when I buy the vehicle. Just something to keep in mind and bring up on your next live show. Thanks guys
Good question but we don’t know the answer. Time will soon tell.
John jay, I share your concern, living in PA. they spray that brine just about every day in the winter. I'm constantly going to the pressure washer to wash the undercarriage.
@@pennsyltuckyden9823 Yep, gotta keep em clean. I have a 2004 GMC and everyone else has rotted bumpers, rockers, and cab corners. Mine is still clean underneath.
my uncle has already run his tundra to 500,000 km........(312k miles) he has changed the oil and the wheels.......... nothing else has needed replacing......
Buy but NOT the TRD PRO. I’d rather buy an SR5 and accessorize it myself.
Yep
Does SR5 have locking diffs?
The limited is nice too!
@@dalephillips8250 None of the trim have locking diffs.
I drove this truck 8years. It was a built proof truck. I put 280k miles without any trouble and then sold to my cousine. It became favourite truck. Its long lasting elephant. People should buy it if they want trouble free full size truck.
So the tires work well, but they don’t look aggressive enough. Ok
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Yeah... why not have a better looking tire that works even better? Especially on your flagship off roading truck.
My last Silverado, I bought new and had it 2 years. It had 5 complete electrical failures. After the 5th, I traded for a new 2007 Tundra. I'm currently driving my 3rd Tundra, a 2019 with the 1794 trim. Never had a problem with any of them. Enough said.
Sorry to hear that man but it happens my girlfriends dad has a 2000 Silverado and it has over 280,000 miles and it's still going only problem is it need a new transmission around 180,000 miles but I know how he drives it so it did good.
If you can get the TRD Pro for MSRP or a below it’s worth it. If the dealer has the typical $5k-10k markup, IMO get a Platinum or 1794 and build the suspension, wheels, and tires yourself.
Midmo_Platinum I agree, I love the interior in the platinum editions. The suspension system on the trd pro is not necessary for a mostly daily highway/slight off road use. I personally have an 16 sr5 with a 3” front 1” rear lift on 33’s and it’s perfect for almost every situation.
I was thinking of doing that with a 1794. I like the look of the Pro though, good/grill, bed stamp, wheels, etc
Chad Krause I brought a Platinum and built it up. Only thing about the Pro that you can’t add easily is the bed stamp, everything else you can add or add better components and have a more upscale interior.
I also got my Platinum well below MSRP, at the time dealer was asking $5,000 over MSRP for the Pros. After doing all my upgrades, I’m still below what I would have spent if I bought a TRD Pro over my Platinum
Sham Pain Jones I tried pricing it out, it is a bit more expensive and a lot of work
Sham Pain Jones id like all TRD parts but it gets super expensive and I haven’t found a dealer that can get me a 1794 for $8k off MSRP
Bought my 08 5.7 SR5 Tundra new. I avoided local dishonest Toyota dealer service dept when at all possible - refused to even buy it from them. I have a competent honest Toyota mechanic for routine maintenance. It still runs like new and tows like a champ 12 years later - long after all payments are gone. I am not addicted to the "gotta have new" trap and not impressed with un-needed gizmos and dislike the tracking devices stick on the new ones.
Smart!. Lease it till the new one comes out!!! Hopefully 2020-21 model.
The tundra is “old”, but it has a great power train, and it’s very reliable. Of course their will be a ‘lemon’, or flaw here, and there, but that’s just a side effect of mass production. The Tundra is essentially old faithful. That’s not always a bad thing.
“Best looking truck” 😂😂😂😂😂
Love my 2015 Tundra. But won't invest in the newer Tundra until a complete redesign.
I like it. Its dependable not to much computer and yes it's out dated but toyota is one off those companies that you can add whatever to it from the factory besides all that toyota and chevies are the best
Ur a lucky guy Mister, Tommy seems knowledgeable and has excellent taste/sense for car's looks and capabilities.
Toyota always the BEST!
No it’s not.
Carlos Cortez GM/Ford/Dodge fanboy alert
2022 model upgrade?
I prefer my colum shifted six passenger seating config on my 16 trd off road tundra. Trucks with the car style shifter dont do it for me. Too cramped beside my right knee. With the colum you get all that room on the floor for gloves, hats, the wifes purse lol.
I agree 100%. I just went from a full console to 40/20/40 setup and I really appreciate the floor space and the option for the 6th passenger.
Your wife let's you take her purse......cool beans! Lol
@@andymorton1737 yeah it's way more versatile but sadly a much less common configuration these days. I had to search it out being you don't see many with the TRD off road option with colume shifter.
Column shift all the way
@@repairvehicle yes
Not sure why the hate for no locker. My ‘18 Limited Tundra on the factory bridgestones, Auto LSD engaged, made it up loose dirt hills on my property easier than the ‘15 High Country I traded in for it that had the G80 locker. I always had to engage 4WD on the high country because it’d just sit and spin. The Tundra transferring power to the tires with grip seemed to work better. The High Country had Bridgestone Dueler AT’s and the Tundra has HT’s.
And of course as I like to mention the High Country had to go into the dealer 6 times by 27k miles and the 6th time was for a radiator replacement due to it leaking. So far all I’ve done is have the oil changed once in the Tundra.
Your estimates of 200,000-300,000 miles for the life of these engines before rebuild is super low... these last 500k easy.
500k w no problems ?
XxSilver_ GamingxX yep that’s Toyota
@@koolcarz016cars7 My grandfather has a 2018 Toyota but I haven't looked how.many miles it had
@@xxsilver_gamingxx389 its a 18 tundra so i would hope it does not have 500k
@@koolcarz016cars7 Next time I go w him I'm gona check
I have a question, concerning my build sheet. On all the options it has "PIO or FIO" what does that mean? This is for a 2022 Tundra SR5 double cab. All the options that I want. The MSRP is $43,755.00 Accessories $8,398.00 total price $53,848.00. How much should the total out the door price be?
All it needs is a rear locking diff.
That 0-60 time is actually a lot better than I expected a mile above sea level.
Second oldest truck in the land (nissan frontier #1) the oldest full size yes.
Tow up to 10k lbs., would you buy the 2021Toyota Pro or the 2021 Ford F250
Tremor 7.3 Godzilla motor with all the problems that are now starting to come out?
And that's why my 2004 4Runner with 182,000 miles on the 4.7L V8 still runs like new. Toyota reliability FTW
Michael Key I had an 01 Taco with 390k, those were legendary years (besides the frame rot ofc)
I have an '03 Limited V8 with ~318,000 km (197,500 miles) and everything works. Swapped the worn out (and original) XREAS shocks for Bilsteins just over a year ago, and changed the stereo to a new Pioneer. I do have heated seats, automatic climate control, and Android Auto/Apple Car Play. What I don't have is the $1000/month payment. 😊💵
I purchased a new 2019 Tundra double cab limited and my fuel consumption is very similar to my 2014 Silverado 5.3. The Tundra is worse unloaded and better than the chev with a 10,000 pound dump trailer. Much better throttle response and firm suspension. Overall a tighter stronger truck. Not to mention I spent $6000+ in maintenance and repairs after 5 years and 150,000 km.
I will admit I saw one of these the other day driving around, and the exhaust sound was awesome for a stock truck. The only other stock truck that might have a sound that nice is the Power Wagon.
Cars And Zebras, it does have a nice sounding exhaust note but the drone of it will become very annoying over time especially on long drives or road trips.
CDP - I don't disagree with that!
Cars And Zebras I think the 5.0 coyote sounds just as good, it’s just not as loud.
The Tundra has a 38 gallon gas tank. My 2015 F250 Diesel came with 26 gallon fuel tank. Figure that one out. I replaced it with an awesome 50 gallon Titan tank.
I wish people were more inclined keeping their cars rather than waiting for new ones to come out.
Flash forward to 2021 and everyone wants to buy it!
People always comment about tech missing from the Tundra, can anyone tell me what tech it is missing?
The Tundra has blind spot assist, radar cruise control, blind spot assist, back up collision sensors, bluetooth, parking sensors.
The only thing I can really think of is a heated steering wheel and cooled seats. These things are luxury items though and this thing is a truck not an S-Class Mercedes, although I’m pretty sure the Tundra even gives that a run for its money with the insane rear leg room.
It's actually 38 gallons tank, and only about 32 Gallons are usable.
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Isn't Tommy the same guy that said he wouldn't buy a Titan because it lacks technology,but the tundra with even less is a buy?
he also said the tundra is better looking than the raptor...smh
Half the time tommy doesn't know what he is talking about or just reading off a piece of paper definitely doesn't add anything to these videos only makes them worse
I have a 19' tundra SR5 offroad and love it. Save some cash and go with SR5. Owned Nissan and Chevys in the past. This tundra is hands down the best I've owned
It's old and slightly behind the times but I'm ok with that.
My last tundra hit 221k and I sold it never had a more reliable truck. Waiting a little so I can go and get a 2021 trd pro off the lot
If you divide the Tundra price by the 20 year lifespan, this is definitely worth buying. Of course a more basic SR5 would be an even better value if you can 'survive' without noisy exhaust and black rims ;)
I have a Tacoma TRD offroad and it has headed seats, locker, leather etc... I feel like this "Pro" is a basic stripped down model without any added features? They should be available, right?
Keep up the buddy reviews!
If you want to get the best time for 0-60 putt it in tow haul mode
I think for that price you get way more tech and a nicer looking vehicle and more efficient trucks in the same market. That is why they are loosing market share.
I also think the refresh every two or three years makes people want to constantly upgrade. On top of that when it's in warranty who cares about repairs? That's why toyota hasn't captured the market. Also the competition loses value so fast so it makes it affordable for people to get into.
Buy it. Its the ONLY truck that you won't experience a compelling reason to trade in when the new color comes out next year like a cell phone.
Just ad a lift and lockers, and drive this tundra for decades.
Sojourn Overland I’m adding lockers onto my 18 Taco Trd sport, I’m pretty stoked
GREAT VIDEOS GUYS KEEP UP THE AWESOME WORK HAPPY NEW YEAR 2019 TO ALL