Is Top Thrill 2 The Right Ride For Cedar Point? - Ride & Capacity Analysis
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Cedar Point just unveiled Top Thrill 2, the reimagining of Top Thrill Dragster. But is it the right choice for the park? Here are my initial thoughts on the new experience regarding the coaster itself as well as its potential rider capacity. Comment below your thoughts on the new coaster!
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The drop off the spike into the third launch looks like it might have the most terrifying head chopper with the station roof that I've ever seen
I love the head choppers like steve and the beast I always keep my hands up high and tell people to keep their hands up too
@@jandrew1994 People have lost limbs that way! You wouldn't think it'd be possible but it happens!
@@bearclaw5115 by my understanding - there are very strict clearance regulations nowadays, limb loss is really only an issue on older coasters with tighter clearances (or if you're exceptionally tall)
@@bearclaw5115no they haven’t. Broken a finger on an old wooden coaster if you’re really tall at most. Do you really think coasters where that’s possible would be allowed to operate?
Clearance issues aren't the only problem when it comes to putting your hands in the air on a coaster. The old TTD famously said "arms down" for a reason- the speed at which you launch can overextend limbs causing you to dislocate them. Had it happen to a teacher of mine back in the day that thought they were a badass haha. Ended up in a cast and PT for weeks.
Great video! I’d love for you to break down energy costs for launches… lsm, Lim, hydraulic, chain lift, catch car lift (like i305) etc
Batman & Robin!
I'd be interested too, but I expect any method to be so cheap compared to other operating costs, that efficiency isn't a consideration. I did some quick figures and would be surprised if a lift hill uses more than a dollar worth of electricity per train lifted, even for a giga. I assume fast launches are less efficient because they have to fight air resistance during the launch.
Doing some rough head estimation, ICE vehicle of similar weight from 0 to 70-100mph is maybe 5 to 10 cents of fuel at lower efficiency. Even a tall lift hill is a relatively small amt of work definitely being less than a KWh easily. Dollars per day per big ride launch in energy and absolutely miniscule compared to lights and other infrastructure. Kind of interesting to think about but ultimately it's a tiny amount of work (thus energy) compared to driving or even running central AC
I'm devastated that I'll never get to expirience the original hydrualic launch on this ride, but I'm glad that we're getting a new ride in its place. I've ridden some other coasters with swing launches and they are a blast - this coaster is definately on my bucket list!
Go to Six flags great adventure in Jackson, NJ
I’m stoked to see that it looks like they put the tail fin on the back car just like the original TTD cars. Can’t wait to ride
Spoiler? It doesn't look much like the original design, but ok. The original design had top fuel dragster tires and a big spoiler on the back car.
@@itsme123669 the original was better but at least it will have one now.
I think this is probably the overall best thing CP could have done given the circumstances. It is absolutely disappointing that the original punchy hydraulic launch is now gone to history, but once you consider that it was probably gonna go soon anyway due to its unreliability, this is probably the best solution for CP to increase the reliability of the ride, thus increasing daily ridership and reducing maintenance costs, while reusing the layout and paying tribute to the original ride in some way.
What a sober and realistic comment!
Let’s face it, Kingda Ka is probably 5 years away from doing something similar so in the end, we should just be lucky we still have a decent ride in place
I agree. Given the circumstances I think this is the next best thing.
It won't have the same punch as that hydraulic launch but it will have more sustained speed so it might feel faster that way and the 100+mph backwards launch might make up for it. a 100mph backwards launch into a spike and subsequent 120mph forward launch does sound pretty cool and intense. And it should be much more reliable which is better ofc,
@@iitzfizz also event hough cedar fair decided to give it a more gradual launch sequence. Magnetic launches can also be punchy if done right.. true, nothing compares to the raw power of hydraulics but i think i preffer a safer more reliable smoother launch than a powerful but unreliable, manteinance expensive system
I mean I didn’t get to go on the original TTD while it was still operating in either of my two visits because it went down both days, so yeah I’m ok with more reliability…
I’m super excited I cannot wait… 101mph going backwards is INSANE
no
The backwards spike will be the same experience as Superman: Escape from Krypton, with a longer train. Not thrilled about this.
@@brianfoss571shut up brian
"But the original launch is gone 😡😭 the ride is longer, goes backwards 100 mph, goes up and down 400 ft twice now ( maybe only 370 on the spike oh no) giving it a near 400 foot vertical drop along with the 420 foot twisted drop, and it'll have less downtime, it's gonna suck!😭😡😭😡"
@@brianfoss571I didn't know krypton went forwards, backwards, then forwards over a tophat. I thought it was just a spike.
I'm glad others are excited. That is great. I just can't gin up the same excitement. I loved the launch and don't think going backwards or the spike adds anything to it. Just me though.
@@patrickholland4708maybe
I agree with you. It just seems we replaced the most intense feeling in the park with a gimmick. I'll miss the original. It was unlike anything else.
i know. very sad
Definitely not just you. I’m glad to see that others have the same opinion I do. It seemed like everyone I talked to about it balked at me when I said I wasn’t the biggest fan of them replacing the hydraulic launch by adding a spike.
Not just you. The launch was the ONLY thing dragster had going for it. All that potential energy stored up from falling 420', and they shove it all into a damn brake run.
Seen so many people comparing the backwards launch to Superman’s but Superman’s backwards launch starts at 0 mph while TT2’s starts at 70+, way different. You’ll feel the speed way more and the spike will have a really nice forceful valley with a weightlessness filled spike! Really sad to see the OG go but so happy that it’s not gone completely!
Going from 70 to 100 is somehow more intense than 0 to 100? You won't even notice the backwards launch. Honestly the only launch you'll notice will be the first tame one.
@@shadowprince4482i’ve been on superman that launch is absolutely forceless literally anything is better than it
@@itsxph0enixbecause it goes from 0-100 in the amount of time a model T takes
@@jcspotter7322 yeah exactly lmao
It's more like wicked twister or possessed
This just makes me want to get on Kingda Ka ASAP
Fearing the awesome hydraulic launches will be gone forever :(
Yeah Ka may to get something similar to this
@@ColdSidyou wish lol
@@TruckDriver-wp7wz I don’t 😭 I’d rather it stay the way it is but knowing six flags and how they like to copy I wouldn’t be surprised
I’ve just always thought it’s a waste to generate the energy to get the trains to 120 mph to just bring it to a stop immediately after. Why not extend the track with some airtime hills and inversions to make it longer? I know why…but it would be cool to have a mega-attraction that does everything in a big way lol…I’ll go back to sandbox mode on RCT4
I've sometimes wondered if eddy-current brakes could be replaced by regenerative brakes to offset some of the energy cost of these rides. I'm sure it's technically possible but it might not be economical.
I know it doesn’t really fit the theme for racing but imagine if half the seats on the train were facing backwards. It would essentially give two different ride experiences then and you would get the 420ft free fall backwards twice essentially and backwards through the 270 would be absolutely insane.
also, give my main man Ryan, props, cause he TOLD us it was Zamperla a LONGGGGGGGGGGGGGG time ago
We can be a little salty as enthusiasts about the changes made, but I think you're right about the new Top Thrill being the right move for Cedar Fair. If I could guess what GP feedback for Top Thrill Dragster was during it's lifetime, it'd be that it was closed when a guest visited, or that they rode it and felt it was too short of a ride for the time they waited. The revamp should address both of those things. I'm glad I got to ride it in it's original form.
I rode it and didn't even consider it a credit.
Only had one drop and one hill. A credit needs a minimum of two... Now its actually a credit.
Just wish they chose Intamin to do the rebuild, original manufacturer and Zamperla rides are rough.
@@chdreturnsbro…
@@chdreturnsbro its such a big coaster that one hill should be a credit...
also where is the two hill thing from???
@@chdreturnsThis is your brain on thoosie
As a UK enthusiast, I’d love something like this over here! You are darned lucky!
Personally, I love Superman Escape from Krypton way more than most people do. So I'm definitely on board with the idea of a backwards spike and think this will add a lot to the ride - enough for me to compensate for the lack of intensity on the launch. It'll be a different ride but still a great one in my opinion :)
Love that ride!
I think Top Thrill 2 has the potential to offer one of the best feelings of pure speed on a coaster. While other ones are faster, the acceleration of a hydraulic launch seems to rob a bit of the feeling of speed to me. It's hard to really appreciate just how fast you're going with such an intense but short launch. I imagine the second launch would be somewhat of a highlight, as you are already going faster than the vast majority of coasters, only to feel even more acceleration kick in as you go across the launch track. That feeling of going very, very fast and then somehow accelerating even more, all while being exposed to the rushing air, is likely to be a very fun and unique sensation. Sure, other launches like this have been done before, but the sheer scale of it is likely to really enhance the feeling.
That’s a good point because as intense as the launch was you I would notice the speed of 120mph way more coming down off the hill before you hit the break run.
Based off of Zamperla’s track record so far with Wild Mouse, I’m expecting TT2 do be down quite a bit.
it happens with every prototype ride for a manufacturer, rmc had issues with down time with almost all of their rides but the point stands that hydraulic launches are too unreliable and this system has a much higher chance of being open
As a local, Wild Mouse actually has a great deal of up time. The first month it was slightly problematic, but nothing over the top for a new coaster
I work in Aeronautica Landing at Carowinds and have to agree with you. The downtime with these Zamperlas has been horrendous
Ever engineered anything yourself?
@@justinthomas5270Zamperla flat rides, NOT a Zamperla coaster.
What I’ve been waiting all day for
Still glad their staying with just lap bars, which was one of the main selling TTD always had over Kingda Ka! Also like the new colors, when it was speculated that it would be blue and white, I was worried it wouldn’t be quite as eye-catching as before, but I think it will with the red striping near the top. The name is growing on me to, it rolls off the tongue surprisingly well!
The gradual build up to 120 mph will probably attract a wider audience vs the insane 0-120mph bat out of hell launch. The reliability alone is worth the drop in thrills because for a lot of people (myself included on my sole visit to Cedar Point) those thrills were mostly theoretical with TFD as it was constantly broke down. I think it will still be insane though.
I always thought it was funny Top Thrill Dragster was 420 feet tall. But now that they built the vertical spike at exactly 420 feet as well… I think we can confirm it’s on purpose ;) 😅😆
I think it's gonna be much better than TTD overall. It's disturbing how 3.8 seconds that used to be the old launch is all whiners care about. Crack lasts longer than that, and crack sucks because it doesn't last long enough (and also sucks for many other reasons we won't get into here). I'm stoked about this ride! I wonder if the one in Vancouver will open 1st. Thanks for posting!
Great vid fella...Spot on and great analysis for just hours after it was announced...First in the community with the indepthness...Excellent stuff! 🏆🙏
Like many, I'm loving the backwards launch, hate the name. I, too, am puzzled about the queue remaining in the same location. I thought moving Scrambler and Matterhorn to the Boardwalk was going to be related to the queue replacement.
From the POV, it looks like they covered the dangerous areas with a metal canopy instead of a fabric covering for shade.
No one called the OG coaster "Top Thrill Dragster" and no one will call this new coaster "Top Thrill 2". The ride has been and will always be "Top Thrill" and CP found a way to keep that nickname possible. I like the name.
@@SIRybkaPretty sure most people just called it Dragster...
@chrismdb5686 yep not sure the type of people this guy hangs with but I now don't want to know😊
Cant wait for the following up video after Ryan rides it
It is Crazy how the only thing that you have gotten wrong in this whole project is them replacing the track on the tophat! Great research and Great videos!
Great Video as always Ryan!! I definitely think capacity won’t be a problem at all, I’m actually excited for that spike the ride will be a lot of fun and breathtaking with that view!
It will still be possible to get a real rollback if the third launch isn't powerful enough to clear the top hat, right? In that case, would you get 5 launches instead of 3?
Looks fun honestly! Can't wait to ride it next year!
The only disappointment for me was the first launch not being a bit faster. Other than that, I am so excited for Top Thrill to be back! At least it wasn’t scrapped.
TL:DR of this video: yes. It is. It will be a great addition even if it’s a terrible name.
Being held up by names is a bit dumb, sometimes names can grow on people.
Everyone lambasted Arieforce One and now the praise for it is far higher than the name rumblings were.
I wish cedar point the best and I can't wait to try TT2. I only wish I got to try the original before this.
Oh em gee it’s coasterguy95
@@KrimsonStorm my problem with the name is it sounds like 2 fast 2 furious. It isn’t a movie like, come on we can be just a bit more creative here.
I am also equally as hyped for tt2 as you are tho
It’s the right decision, and considering how many years out attractions are planned, we’re lucky we didn’t just lose Dragster all together. People need to stop complaining. Either ride it and have fun, or go to Great Adventure and ride Ka.
I was so incredibly stoked for this because of the guaranteed rollback on each cycle, then I saw the render for how high it actually gets before rolling back and I think I lost all my hype in an instant. I'm sure it will still be an awesome ride, but damn that took the wind from my sails.
Yep this needed to begin cresting the tophat on every launch (or even a random 1 out of 50) to make it truly a wonderful ride. It was something people LOVED about the old one. 1 out of 50 is actually a ridiculously good idea for increasing repeat ridership......
I'm personally surprised that they went all the way to 420 feet on the spike, I was expecting something closer to 350 - 375 feet tall. I'm glad that it's a bit taller that I thought, though if you're going to match the height of the top hat, why not go another 40 feet to break the height record?
They can't go higher than 420ft because it would look ridiculous to have the train fall so short of the top. It can't possibly hit 420 either. It will likely only go up about 350' or so. They lkely choose 420 for symmetry reasons.
@@bearclaw5115 That's true, but they could have speed up the trains to maybe 120-130 mph on the backwards launch, then slow it back down to 120.
The launch was the essence of Top Thrill Dragster, but with the new spike, it’s a very different ride. My preference would have been for the station/transfer track to be moved close to the start of the curve up to the top hat so that the first launch could be backwards up to 100mph, giving the full reverse-freefall coaster experience up the new spike, before the second launch up to top speed. The rollbacks on the top hat and three passes along that straight stretch will probably be pretty uneventful, so I’m hoping they add some theming near to the track to emphasise the speed. No doubt it’ll still be an awesome ride experience apart from that.
Hate the name. Stoked on the ride. I used to be a once or twice a season person. 80% of the time I was there dragster was down. The times it wasn't the line was hours long and often went down even then. I never had the chance to get on dragster. My kid and I are super excited to finally get to experience the height of the top hat even if the launch from dragster is gone, it will be nice to get some of the " heritage" from the old ride. I just wish the Zamperla leak never happened so the news felt like a bigger deal
In addition to the different roofline on the station, they will be adding to the length of it as well - the old station had 7 spires/flags and the animation shows the new one having 8.
I didn't even realize that! Bonus head choppers!
Keep spreading the message #notarollback
it is a rollback though...
It’s a roll back but not a full rollback I’d say. This kind of rollback apparently has happened on Ka before which I don’t know if it’s true.
The train still rolls back, so yes, it doesn't matter how high the train goes or how fast it goes. If it goes up, then reverses back down due to gravity, then it's a rollback
This looks AMAZING! I really like the new design and will be booking a flight to Cleveland when this opens.
I will forever miss that intense launch. Of course I’m gonna ride it and probably love it, cedar point is my home park, but the og launch was so intense and amazing. Guess I’ll have to go to New Jersey to try something similar
It appears that there really won't be a separate unloading-station which I find to be a shortsighted decision. I know that trains aren't cheap, and separate loading + unloading requires another half station and a 4th train, but it really elevates the dispatch quality.
Also, just like a hydraulic launch, an LSM launch needs to "reset" itself because this much energy can not be delivered live from the grid, instead it requires a powerful capacitative buffer which needs to be charged up before every launch cycle, and degradation of electrical energy storage is exponentially related to the charging speed. Because the total amount of energy that needs be delivered per launch cycle is enormous, the slow accelleration lowers the required buffering the capacitor has to accomplish, and it may be the only feasible way to accomplish this - for Zamperla at least. They are not industry-leaders in this area, and Indrivetec has shown with Red Force what they can deliver.
This was the breakdown I was thirsty for! Key to capacity will indeed be taking advantage of aggressive timing/programming. I'm thinking if they group the switch, spike, top hat and block brake together it will be hard to hit that 70s dispatch interval. Lets go with your estimate of 45s from launch to cresting the top hat, and then add say 15s to clear the block brake, giving us around 60s to clear an advance from staging (great catch, I didn't see that until you pointed it out). Next, the switch track moves and the train must advance out of the staging block and come to a complete stop on the launch (assumption). You think the switch will be 3s... and the entire train will advance from stage and be ready for launch in 7s?!? Perhaps I missed something.
Big thanks Ryan for sharing your thoughts with us! As a former TTD ride-op, I trust your intuition! I hope Zamp nails this and despite not breaking significant records I think TT2 will kick butt! I'm very grateful CP brought Dragster back and can't wait to get that credit.
> and then add say 15s to clear the block brake
They don't need to wait for this, you can dispatch the second train the second the first one has cleared the top hat because you have all the way until the 2nd forward launch to abort. All they have to do is switch the launch side LSMs to trim/brake and it'll prevent the second launch from clearing the hat. Rolling start will likely greatly improve the initial cycle time, I'm still of the opinion that it's designed for 60 second dispatch/cycle.
I do think this is the right choice. The trains in my opinion look better than the originals. I love how they’ve kept the racing theme. And I like how Zamperla have built the spike in the same style as the old intamin track in the 00s!!
Oooooh giving everyone a Top Thrill rollback. Pretty cool
What are you doing here this is unexpected
other than not liking the name too much think the ride will be a lot of fun. the swing launch is going to add another element and give people who have never experienced a roll back the opportunity to experience it every time. i also think it'll be a big pleaser for the gp. win win overall
For a coaster nerd like me...ur videos are the freakin best
idk.. im in 2 atm, i feel like cedar point let us down with this one. I agree, the old launch was great. I know the hydraulic launch on dragster wasnt the greatest, but it WAS the launch that made it so great. and it was just such an iconic coaster to begin with and beloved by many, even with its faults. the name isnt exciting, and i feel like its going to be half the coaster is was. i wont know until i ride it, which im going to do first thing in the 2024 season. i guess i just loved that ride so much, that seeing it change is kinda hard. i have a lot of good memories there. while i doubt it, i hope cedar point can make it just as fun as all of the memories i have with it was.
and im salty that ive waited yeres for a rollback and never got one, but now it will be intentional lol
I think this was truly the best they could do without completely removing the tower .. idk how I feel about this yet but I know for a fact the name could have been better
They replaced an awesome drive system and put in a reliable-but-wimpy drive system with 1/3 the force, so it takes three passes to store up enough energy to get over the top hat. What the old system could with one punch now takes three 1/3 shoves.
The spike isn't a feature, it allows them to under-size the drive system ($$$/3) and save money.
Oh boy a spike? Yeah, but where did my 1.5G go? Let's call it Top Thrill 1/3
Thoosie moment
The video we didn’t want. The video we needed👍😎
My question is: What happens if the train doesn't make it over the tophat on the 3rd launch? Since it goes the same 120mph, and TTD before was prone to rollback at the same speed, what will happen?
It will roll back and presumably go back up the spike some and get re -launched for a second attempt at going over the spike.
Looks like more of an F1 theme, at 8:39 you can see that those are Formula 1 lights, when the lights go out the race starts, and the cars look a little more F1-ish than the original dragster ones.
I wonder how much downtime this ride will have since the switch track is “new” to the manufacture? While I am sure this will be more reliable, I feel like the switch track will be the highest point of failure. At least at first.
Can't wait to do it
Gold striker at CGA can dispatch trains at around 15 to 20 seconds with seatbelts. Keep in mind more seats are on GS than top thrill 2. If CGA can achieve this CP definitely can
The excellerator models by intamin are so flawed so im glad theyre redoing it to be reliable. May finally give it a try
I think top thrill 2 is called that because it could have a possibility of operating in two modes. Spike and regular, so it could be like the old top thrill dragster at the same time. Keep in mind I’m just speculating, but still is an idea!
I hope the initial launch is tweaked so that the train will at least make it 2/3rds up the top hat--really maximize that reverse free fall that's a key selling point.
Apart from that, it looks great, although it would've been cool if they could turn the last two cars around to allow them to face backwards.
I'm glad you addressed the rollback. Is there a way to estimate how high up the top hat it will go if it's launching basically the same as Maverick? From their video it looks like not very much.
My favorite part about auto racing is when they go 100mph backwards and launch 400ft into the air twice.
Seriously "top thrill 2" and maintaining a race theme is the weakest retheme they could have possibly came up with.
It will be awesome.
Og Top Thrill was amazing. Experienced it many times.
And also back row will be just as good as front. Unlike the OG TTD.
if zamperla can bring the train from 120 mph to 0 with magnetic brakes and a trim at the end, the track switch could switch over to station right after the train passes the switch, then you would wait on it cresting the top hat to advance the train. If the train rolls back, then brakes can slow it down to a slow speed and a trim brake could stop it before the switch. This would save 3 seconds, but I dont think this will happen because it would be too complex and the GP might not like it due to the precision involved
The launches should have been 100MPH, 110MPH, 120MPH with trim brakes before the launches (similar to Maverick) to increase the force. I miss the og launch as well. IMO, the launch was the best part of the park.
Probably not possible with the tech.
@@bearclaw5115 Not sure how different the tech is, but Red Force does it.
Glad I got to ride the original but looking forward to 2
for me, the real "thrill" of this layout isn't the launch, it's praying that the track switch is in the correct position when I come screaming through it at 100 mph.
Based off the length of the station building in the animation it looks to be a separate load/unload station. The is should mean the can dispatch trains faster from the station whilst giving the unloading train time to unload without rushing guests like originally. If so, then the capacity will be fine.
Overall I think the revamp is good and pretty much exactly what I expected, I still do think Ka will end up being better though. But the better ride will probably be up to everyone’s personal preference.
Unload stations almost always slow operations as opposed to speeding them up.
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i’m so excited for this ride idc what anyone says
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0:54 That color scheme is better than the current one and I'm really disappointed they didn't go with that color scheme.
I personally think same color supports and track is boring
I might not know roller coasters like the rest of you but this seems like the most ambitious American roller coaster of all time.
As we have seen with wildcat. The ride will have to have its brake sections cleared before sending the next train to avoid an accident. Plus you have to account for the fact that this ride can still rollback at the top of the tophat. It's still possible for magnetic launches to not create enough push to drive the train all the way up to the top. I think taking that in mind I am not so sure that this is going to be close to the capacity dragster gave. There is also the fact that not all 3 trains may run all the time. Maintenance has to be done sometimes or a train might have a problem and need to come off the track which would reduce capacity again. so what you predicted is dragster on its best day.
If I had to bet, I'd say that they will likely increase capacity with these renovations. After all they've had 20 years to improve upon the original. I'm sure they will set the launch system to reliably get the trains over the top hat. They have 3 chances to accelerate the train and no doubt the LSM's are precise and easily adjusted.
@bearclaw5115 no doubt LSMs are reliable but can still fail to get trains up to speed. Even with the spike and acceleration the max speed is still 120 MPH with all that combined so in the event the winds are bad or the track is cold a rollback can still occur. There are other rides with lsms that can rollback as well so it's not proven to prevent that overall full throttle to name one
I’ve only ever ridden Kingda Ka, in comparing it to Dragster, and while I was hoping for a little more oomph to its reimagining, I can’t say I’m disappointed. This is a far better decision than getting rid of it, or letting it become an expensive ornament.
honestly im excited for top thrill 2 but i kinda dislike the name its really basic
The name “DRAGSTER” would work for me
imagine a hold break on the vertical spike like superman at geauga lake used to have. 😩😅 😃
i dont get rides like dragster and kingda ka. allll that momentum coming over the top hat, just to hit the brakes? I was kinda hoping the changes would be actual elements after the big drop
I think that since there’s a lower height requirement, that there will be seatbelts.
My question is it’s probably not going to go 120 mph when running normally right? Because I remember in a past video you said it only ran around 112-114 when fully loaded, so if it was actually going 120 on TT2 then wouldn’t there be major ejector over the top?
If the first launch is like mavericks second launch, then I think it will be fun
I’m supposed they didn’t go go an airtime hill because that would of reduced the cycle time by 3 seconds as the first launch wouldn’t have to wait for the switch to switch because the train will be able to stop in the dip between the airtime hill and the top hat
I honestly still can’t believe Zamperla are doing this. All I can think of is hero at flamingoland. I hope and pray that they pull it out the bag.
Seat belts are required on roller coasters in Ohio per state law.
I'm fairly certain that's the case, but haven't officially looked it up
Do you think they should still play “Ready To Go” in the station?
The only thing I'm disappointed with on Top Thrill 2 is the spike. I would have loved to have seen it twist at the top when the speeds are low and the riders could handle it. Call it the "Wicked Twister" spike. Or, better yet, they could go out to that field in Ohio where Maverick's heartline roll is sitting and plop it on top. They wouldn't even need to paint it. It fits the color scheme!
BTW, Zamperla updated their site to make it 52 inches again so it might not be 48 in after all
Someone’s opinion I genuinely respect.
Could the magnetic launch get it up to speed in one launch or is that imposible?
Thank You
For context, Pantheon's spike is 242 feet shorter than that of Top Thrill 2. You could fit almost 2.5 Pantheon spikes where TT2's will be. Nuts.
I'm guessing the new equivalent to an old school rollback will be a quintuple launch?
Wait, how do you know that Cedar Fair adds seatbelts to their coasters to lower insurance? I worked at CGA a few years back, and they had them on every ride, and I thought it was a legal requirement for California
Im disappointed. The launch was the ride. This is a poor substitute. It doesnt get taller or faster. And the lauch is much weaker. If they wanted to get away from the hydraulic launch, air would have been the answer.
Compressed air launches are no where near as powerful as hydraulics
I think air launches might be more reliable than hydraulic ones but I think Cedar fair really wanted to focus on more reliability and making a new experience rather than keeping the old version ever since that incident.
@sigmasmelody4508 Yeah, but it's still like 75 to 90% of hydraulic launch where these LMS motors are like 25%. And compressed air would bring reliability Well barely slowing the ride down look at Maxx force
@@Baraka_Maracas they are much quicker, more forceful, and equal in speed.
My concern is how well that track switch will hold up from the back and forth of these speeding trains over and over.
Spoiler: it doesnt
Is 120 going to be enough to get trains these light over the top hat?
This kills me. I think this will still be great but I'm just pissed that I never got the chance to ride the original. Been to CP on three different occasions and TTD wasn't even operating on any of them. I was more excited about the launch than the top hat, and now with the "rebirth", the thing I was most excited about has become weaksauce. At least I work 10 minutes from Maxx Force, lol.
This ride will nothing less than awesome 😮
Good video. This doesn't really excite me glad I got to ride the OG.. (This really makes me feel old) they've just made it longer with a gimmick imo. It didn't need changed did it?
Its great except the first launch could go faster or higher. Otherwise, the weightless vertical spike will be incredible.
Is it possible the coaster could have a separate load offload platform in the station as the building looks long enough to accommodate 2 trains?