Nice! I had a 1974 Ludwig Pro beat clear Acrylic, never should have sold it! 14 x 24 kick, 13 and 14 mounted toms, 16 and 18 floor toms, many cymbals and accessories. Almost 50 yrs later, I'm interested again and looking to piece that same clear kit together! Thx for the video. Peace
Personally i'd tune the toms a little higher, sounds like they are trying to sing - but not quite there yet! Also, the snare feels tuned slightly high in relation to the rest of the drums. Bass sounds amazing though.
Coated Emperors on top. Felt strips back and front on the bass drum. Tune it a little higher than average. BOOM ! (if micing kick, some shredded newspapers 1/3 full)
Oh my….that is a gorgeous kit! I favor the bigger sizes as well and had a one up two down for a while. I know from experience that dialing the right sound in on larger shells is a lot of trial and error. There’s a great video on youtube by Jeff Ochletree, who was Bonham’s tech for a spell, where he details how Bonham liked them tuned, which is pretty unique. I’m looking forward to the drum covers with that beauty!
Ok, I prefer to choose all of this a little bit smaller, but after my fancy, and for your style, the Ludwig drums are absolutely the right drums, the right heads and the right tuning. Sounds very great !
I can never get tired of listening or playing a Supraphonic. Your's is one of the best I've heard. You also turned the Centennial from "Meh" to Awesome by putting the "Correct" heads on. Excellent recording & playing. Thanks
Thank you! I love that snare. It sounds better every time I record it. I’m still searching for my favorite head for it, might try an HD Dry next. Thanks for watching!
I managed to find a secind hand Centennial Moto kit with the 24" kick on eBay a few months back. Very happy with it so far....you're right about the floor toms though....balancing the tuning just right is proving to be a challenge.
Nice one. I'm using a Tune Bot at the moment for the floor toms. It's also an education for me trying to balance this setup. The 13" tom, which I sit on a snare stand next to the kick, tuned up real quick. The other two are giving me the sort of problem I like to solve, not a headache thankfully. @@someroomtodrum
I have the exact kit, I’m using the same batter head with the stock reso on the bass drum and using coated G2’s for batter and stock reso’s on the toms and the sound absolutely thunderous! I started with the clear EC2’s for the batter and they sounded too tiny for me. You should definitely try the coated G2’s I think you’ll love them!
Im in the market for a Ludwig classic maple Bonum or pro beat. I thought about the centennial & now im going to look around a little, maybe find a good deal. What i like about something like this is i don't have to worry about banging it up a little compared to something expensive. Thats neat an inexpensive set & making it sound better. I heard somewhere that these centennials were discontinued. Oh & nice drumming.
Thanks! I’m not sure if they were discontinued or not, but they were still selling new last time I checked, about 6 months ago. I’m still quite happy with it for the price. Best of luck in your search!
I see where you are coming from. I was just impressed with how much better the heads were from stock. I'm sure you know when you buy a new kit the heads usually aren't great, and unfortunately, heads are crazy expensive now.@@Mike_Webb78
Gorgeous! Happy Drumming!!! EDIT: Was curious, so I looked up the price...Musicians Friend has it for $1,099. Was a bit shocked it was that low. Expecting it to be more!
Not that it doesn't good with the Evans heads, but I think they betray what this kit is all about. I liked the factory heads better. The exact same thing happened to me a few years back when I bought the now discontinued Ddrum Bombardier (same drum dimensions). To me, you have to let a kit like this resonate. Thanks for the vid, I'm probably going get this bad boy.
I would like to hear these toms ring a bit more. I'll keep playing on these EC2s for a while but I'm already planning to try coated G2s next. Thanks, hope you can get your own!
Been looking for in depth,solid videos on this kit. And there's not many. There's like on unboxing and than several videos of ppl playing the kit. There are differing opinions on this kit in terms of quality, being made in Taiwan and all. There was a video where the plies on one guys kit where separating at the bearing edges. But it seems like it's still ludwih quality,and maple,despite being made in taiwan
I hope you do an update after some time playing.for the 11-1200$ ish range new, it seems like a real good enough kit. After all,drums are drums, and everything past the 700$ mark, comes down to hardware,usually USA or custom made, and hardware appointments. After that 7,8,900 dollar mark your paying for that.but you can get all maple kits or birch or walnut or sometimes other mixtures for way less than before. I was just looking at a pearl pricing guide the other day, and I recall the 8 piece export double bass kit, being like 1600$ and I'm pretty sure they where poplar and or basswood or both. I wanna get this kit despite just having got a Yamaha stage custom (all birch.well built.yamaha rules,I highly recommend the kit you simply can't beat it for the price) I wanna get this kit but I'm also looking at some mid upper tier ludwigs kits. Never played a 26' bass drum and I want it!!
I found the same videos, too. That’s why I wanted to talk more about it in detail, and I plan on doing a review video with even more detail sometime in the future after I’ve played on it for a bit. I did see the guy’s video with the shell delamination, and I think his kit was from late 2000s but still almost the same kit. I will be keeping a close eye on how it holds up for the price and the build quality. I’m pretty sure it’s American maple that they ship to Taiwan for assembly.
I have the dragster version with 22 12 14 16 Red Sparkle. It’s before they were discontinued. No issues in quality. Remo coated emperors. Can get good prices on used. Add your favorite heads and they will last for years. Best quality review I’ve seen. Thanks and enjoy them.
I have the same kit and was wondering if you have any tuning tips specific pitches or notes ,I’ve struggled with overtones on this kit as well ,currently using remo emporer and ambassador but may switch to evans after listening to your kit
I’m definitely not great with tuning and I don’t worry too much about a certain pitch. I’ve watched a few videos on RUclips recently to try some new techniques and I’d recommend that. Opinions on tuning can vary greatly, but there are some good tips on RUclips. These heads definitely reduced the overtones but I’m not sure I have them sounding the best they could yet. Another viewer mentioned that the rings on these ECs tend to fall apart after awhile. I would still like to try using Ambassadors or G2s, though I may get a drum tune dial for that.
Hi Tony, try the Tune Bot unit if you haven't already. It's not too expensive, accurate, easy to clip on to a hoop. I know exactly what you mean about overtones, especially on the 16" and 18" floor. I talked briefly about that on another thread here, it's proving to be the tricky part of setting the whole kit up just right.
True that probably a cheap Chinese kit just like my 6 piece evolution element that I got in silver chrome. Sounds really great but I'm only gigging with it and not recording. Those expensive kits from monroe NC are great for recording guess that's why it's called a studio kit, but I just need something to gig.😊 sorry but I don't like that configuration. I mean the oversize bass drum with the 14" tom is hard for me to do rolls. I'm happy with my evolution although I really really like those big floor toms.😁
This kit has been a lot of fun but it's still not my ideal setup. The huge bass makes it harder to arrange the toms comfortably. I need to try moving things around again.
I find the number of Evans drum heads to be incredibly confusing. Sometimes less is more. That said, Emads rule and so do the HD Dry (I think they're called) or Genera Dry heads for the snare. For toms I use clear Remo Emperors. Edit: the EC2S sound pretty great on your toms.
That's true, there are a few too many choices. I haven't tried the Dry yet, but thanks for the recommendation. The EC2s actually sound even better now that I've broken them in a bit.
I have the same kit, with the same finish. Do you experience excessive beater bounce? Meaning, once a note is played with the beater, it continues to bounce.
Nice! Yes, I tend to bury the beater into the head with each note. I was getting a lot of bounce with the full resonant head because it traps air pressure. That’s one of the reasons I cut out the hole: it releases air pressure so the beater doesn’t bounce so much. I’ll have a video about that soon!
Thanks for the info. I'm still using the stock full resonant on the kick. I didn't think to change the head out to a ported. I use lowboy wooden beaters and thought it might be some of the issue. I then thought of trying a felt beater (which I haven't used in decades) so I started resting the beater onto the head, to prevent excess bounce. I'm not a Bonham purist, whereas I exchanged the 14x10 with a 14x14 and I play a 14x8 maple snare. I also use Aquarian heads and Sabians. Nevertheless, I still dig the kit.@@someroomtodrum
I can imagine the wood beaters buzz a lot without the port. I’m definitely not going for an exact Bonham sound either. That’s why I chose the more modern EC heads. I just love the look and sound of this kit.
Hi Leadman, I'm happy you mentioned the lowboy wooden beater in conjunction with this kit. Would you recommend it as a beater with plenty of "boom"? or is the bounce too much of a problem?@@Leadman1
@@MrMmnngghh Definitely go with a ported resonate head. I personally like the attack / sound of a wooden beater. It's something that one must experiment with.
More than once, I've been accused of copying Bonham because I have basically the same kit (I put the the 18" tom to the left of the hats), including the 2002 Paistes, but the fact is...... its because Bonham got it right..... at least when he used 3 crashes.
So angry with myself for selling that same kit few years ago! You can check my oldest videos on my channel if you want to hear how the same kit sounds like tuned high like with that Bonham tuning style!
I owned a version of this kit in silver sparkle, it looked amazing but sounded average as, I tried heaps of different heads and tunings, and I never really dug the sound, and shifting that massive kick drum around was a pain in the ass 😂.....ended up selling it now I've got a tama and it sounds heaps better, if ya dig it tho props to you. Your playing is solid as by the way, churr
@@someroomtodrum definately a mean looking kit. I made the kick on my centennial sound pretty fat with an aquarium superkick 2, try it maybe, sounded better than an emad in my opinion, made it sound massive ✌️🤙
There are plenty of modern drumheads that give a fatter/deeper tone than those Bonzo used. Clear vintage emperor would be ideal for my toms and an EMAD for the kick.
Congratulations, you made a Ludwig maple kit sound as dull and lifeless as most all modern drums. Geez, just buy the crap they market to that sound already.
Chinese made drums a glorified elite maple kit on par with a Gretsch Catalina or a ddrum maple. Nothing fantastic with these drums other than milking more money off the Zep/Bonham name. Cheaply made drums nothing special. Not a true Ludwig. Hope you didn’t pay more than 800 bucks!
CHAPTERS:
0:00 Intro
2:34 Original heads (demo)
3:07 Replacement heads
6:46 '69 Supraphonic snare
7:28 New Evans heads (demo)
9:24 Conclusion
I’m glad you like it Greg! I knew it would go to a great home!
Thanks, Spencer! It’s a blast 💥
Nice! I had a 1974 Ludwig Pro beat clear Acrylic, never should have sold it! 14 x 24 kick, 13 and 14 mounted toms, 16 and 18 floor toms, many cymbals and accessories. Almost 50 yrs later, I'm interested again and looking to piece that same clear kit together! Thx for the video. Peace
That's awesome! I've never had the chance to play an acrylic. They seem to be popular again with new drum makers.
Personally i'd tune the toms a little higher, sounds like they are trying to sing - but not quite there yet!
Also, the snare feels tuned slightly high in relation to the rest of the drums. Bass sounds amazing though.
Coated Emperors on top.
Felt strips back and front on the bass drum. Tune it a little higher than average. BOOM !
(if micing kick, some shredded newspapers 1/3 full)
And Tune-Bot Gig, really made a difference. I tuned to medium resonance. Hi-Lo F#, D#, B. kick in F.
snare G#.
With the EC2s on those toms sound absolutely massive, and the bass drum is cavernous! Lovely buy, congrats!
Thank you! The bass sounds HUGE without any muffling. I’ll have a video with some samples of that soon.
but I also liked the character from the original heads, little more dirty and old school
I got myself an used Classic Maple with the same shell sizes, sounds insane !
Nice! I think that’s a very similar kit with better badges.
Oh my….that is a gorgeous kit! I favor the bigger sizes as well and had a one up two down for a while. I know from experience that dialing the right sound in on larger shells is a lot of trial and error. There’s a great video on youtube by Jeff Ochletree, who was Bonham’s tech for a spell, where he details how Bonham liked them tuned, which is pretty unique. I’m looking forward to the drum covers with that beauty!
Thanks, Kevin! It's absolutely the most eye-catching kit I've owned. My next cover will be out real soon!
That particular video comes from the DVD release Trust Your Ears: The Drum Explorations Of Jeff Ocheltree.
Ok, I prefer to choose all of this a little bit smaller, but after my fancy, and for your style, the Ludwig drums are absolutely the right drums, the right heads and the right tuning. Sounds very great !
I can never get tired of listening or playing a Supraphonic. Your's is one of the best I've heard. You also turned the Centennial from "Meh" to Awesome by putting the "Correct" heads on. Excellent recording & playing. Thanks
Thank you! I love that snare. It sounds better every time I record it. I’m still searching for my favorite head for it, might try an HD Dry next. Thanks for watching!
Looks great! Sounds great! Awesome playing! Im so jealous.
Absolutely beautiful kit. Love the single rack and 2 floors. Classic rock n roll
Agreed! I feel better having the rack tom mounted separate from the bass.
i have the exact same set, and have had good luck with it.... it recorded well and i get positive comments about their sound when we play shows.
Awesome! That's good to hear.
Love the set man! Cool sizes of the drums so special! Sounds amazing!
Your new kit sounds and looks great!
Thanks! Now you finally get to see it after hearing me talk about it for months.
Sounds huge! And looks beautiful! 🤘🏼
It is! Thanks Diego!
Finally a nice review on the zep set. Well done. and Thank you
Glad you liked it! I will actually do a more complete review of this kit in the future.
I managed to find a secind hand Centennial Moto kit with the 24" kick on eBay a few months back.
Very happy with it so far....you're right about the floor toms though....balancing the tuning just right is proving to be a challenge.
Very nice! The EC2s have made tuning much easier.
Nice one. I'm using a Tune Bot at the moment for the floor toms. It's also an education for me trying to balance this setup. The 13" tom, which I sit on a snare stand next to the kick, tuned up real quick. The other two are giving me the sort of problem I like to solve, not a headache thankfully. @@someroomtodrum
I should have mentioned the EC2's. I will be looking out for a set. They certainly look the goods @@someroomtodrum 👍
great drum for the money! congrats on the new set!
Thanks, Shawn! Congrats on 1k subs!
@@someroomtodrum thanks man!
I have the exact kit, I’m using the same batter head with the stock reso on the bass drum and using coated G2’s for batter and stock reso’s on the toms and the sound absolutely thunderous! I started with the clear EC2’s for the batter and they sounded too tiny for me. You should definitely try the coated G2’s I think you’ll love them!
Nice! I’ll definitely be trying the G2s next. I loved them on my old Slingerland.
Im in the market for a Ludwig classic maple Bonum or pro beat. I thought about the centennial & now im going to look around a little, maybe find a good deal. What i like about something like this is i don't have to worry about banging it up a little compared to something expensive. Thats neat an inexpensive set & making it sound better. I heard somewhere that these centennials were discontinued. Oh & nice drumming.
Thanks! I’m not sure if they were discontinued or not, but they were still selling new last time I checked, about 6 months ago. I’m still quite happy with it for the price. Best of luck in your search!
Looks awesome! Wrap looks great too! Never been a fan of the badges though but otherwise great kit! Drums sound wicked too
Thanks! Yeah, those badges are really the one and only thing I don’t like. I wish it had the keystones.
Yeah, if I ever buy myself a Centennial kit I think I’m just gonna screw those badges off 🤷🏻♂️
It’s not a wrap. Looks great I agree. I have red sparkle that’s not a wrap either.
Evans should use this. It's insane the difference in tone when you replaced the heads. The snare is also just perfect, but you already know that.
Not really a fair comparison. Those weren’t US Remo heads on there to begin with, it was the china lower level factory heads.
I see where you are coming from. I was just impressed with how much better the heads were from stock. I'm sure you know when you buy a new kit the heads usually aren't great, and unfortunately, heads are crazy expensive now.@@Mike_Webb78
Nice video! Great tones! Keep it up!!!
Thanks!
Gorgeous!
Happy Drumming!!!
EDIT: Was curious, so I looked up the price...Musicians Friend has it for $1,099. Was a bit shocked it was that low. Expecting it to be more!
Thanks! Yup, even when it’s not on sale, it’s only $1,299. Not too bad for what it is!
@@someroomtodrum Exactly!
Sounds really nice perfect set up to ROCK
Thanks! It's fun, for sure
I like big drums and I cannot lie
I actually liked the origional head sound.
They were decent, or at least they sounded better on mic than in the room. May not have been great for a live setting.
Not that it doesn't good with the Evans heads, but I think they betray what this kit is all about. I liked the factory heads better. The exact same thing happened to me a few years back when I bought the now discontinued Ddrum Bombardier (same drum dimensions). To me, you have to let a kit like this resonate. Thanks for the vid, I'm probably going get this bad boy.
I would like to hear these toms ring a bit more. I'll keep playing on these EC2s for a while but I'm already planning to try coated G2s next. Thanks, hope you can get your own!
Sounds great, Big G!!! Good thing that 26 EMAD didn't go back to D'addario 🤣🤣🤣
I nabbed it just in time! Btw the Remo head finally came a few days ago 😂
Aaaaa sounds so good! Highly considering this same/similar kit for myself or the church worship band. 🤷🏽♂️
It’s a good choice!
Been looking for in depth,solid videos on this kit. And there's not many. There's like on unboxing and than several videos of ppl playing the kit. There are differing opinions on this kit in terms of quality, being made in Taiwan and all. There was a video where the plies on one guys kit where separating at the bearing edges. But it seems like it's still ludwih quality,and maple,despite being made in taiwan
I hope you do an update after some time playing.for the 11-1200$ ish range new, it seems like a real good enough kit. After all,drums are drums, and everything past the 700$ mark, comes down to hardware,usually USA or custom made, and hardware appointments. After that 7,8,900 dollar mark your paying for that.but you can get all maple kits or birch or walnut or sometimes other mixtures for way less than before. I was just looking at a pearl pricing guide the other day, and I recall the 8 piece export double bass kit, being like 1600$ and I'm pretty sure they where poplar and or basswood or both. I wanna get this kit despite just having got a Yamaha stage custom (all birch.well built.yamaha rules,I highly recommend the kit you simply can't beat it for the price) I wanna get this kit but I'm also looking at some mid upper tier ludwigs kits. Never played a 26' bass drum and I want it!!
I subscribed. The video has a good look and feel in terms of production so cheers to that
I found the same videos, too. That’s why I wanted to talk more about it in detail, and I plan on doing a review video with even more detail sometime in the future after I’ve played on it for a bit. I did see the guy’s video with the shell delamination, and I think his kit was from late 2000s but still almost the same kit. I will be keeping a close eye on how it holds up for the price and the build quality. I’m pretty sure it’s American maple that they ship to Taiwan for assembly.
Thanks for subscribing! I will be playing on this kit A LOT so I know it will be put to the test. I hope it lasts a good long time.
I have the dragster version with 22 12 14 16 Red Sparkle. It’s before they were discontinued. No issues in quality. Remo coated emperors.
Can get good prices on used. Add your favorite heads and they will last for years.
Best quality review I’ve seen. Thanks and enjoy them.
I have the same kit and was wondering if you have any tuning tips specific pitches or notes ,I’ve struggled with overtones on this kit as well ,currently using remo emporer and ambassador but may switch to evans after listening to your kit
I’m definitely not great with tuning and I don’t worry too much about a certain pitch. I’ve watched a few videos on RUclips recently to try some new techniques and I’d recommend that. Opinions on tuning can vary greatly, but there are some good tips on RUclips. These heads definitely reduced the overtones but I’m not sure I have them sounding the best they could yet. Another viewer mentioned that the rings on these ECs tend to fall apart after awhile. I would still like to try using Ambassadors or G2s, though I may get a drum tune dial for that.
Hi Tony, try the Tune Bot unit if you haven't already. It's not too expensive, accurate, easy to clip on to a hoop. I know exactly what you mean about overtones, especially on the 16" and 18" floor. I talked briefly about that on another thread here, it's proving to be the tricky part of setting the whole kit up just right.
True that probably a cheap Chinese kit just like my 6 piece evolution element that I got in silver chrome. Sounds really great but I'm only gigging with it and not recording. Those expensive kits from monroe NC are great for recording guess that's why it's called a studio kit, but I just need something to gig.😊 sorry but I don't like that configuration. I mean the oversize bass drum with the 14" tom is hard for me to do rolls. I'm happy with my evolution although I really really like those big floor toms.😁
This kit has been a lot of fun but it's still not my ideal setup. The huge bass makes it harder to arrange the toms comfortably. I need to try moving things around again.
Your kit kinda sounds like mine on my channel although I’m going to retune mine a little higher. Great video thanks nice kit
Sweet IT Crowd t-shirt!
Haha, finally somebody noticed!
I find the number of Evans drum heads to be incredibly confusing. Sometimes less is more. That said, Emads rule and so do the HD Dry (I think they're called) or Genera Dry heads for the snare. For toms I use clear Remo Emperors. Edit: the EC2S sound pretty great on your toms.
That's true, there are a few too many choices. I haven't tried the Dry yet, but thanks for the recommendation. The EC2s actually sound even better now that I've broken them in a bit.
@@someroomtodrum I think I'll try them when my emperors wear out. They sounded great with your kit.
I have the same kit, with the same finish. Do you experience excessive beater bounce? Meaning, once a note is played with the beater, it continues to bounce.
Nice! Yes, I tend to bury the beater into the head with each note. I was getting a lot of bounce with the full resonant head because it traps air pressure. That’s one of the reasons I cut out the hole: it releases air pressure so the beater doesn’t bounce so much. I’ll have a video about that soon!
Thanks for the info. I'm still using the stock full resonant on the kick. I didn't think to change the head out to a ported. I use lowboy wooden beaters and thought it might be some of the issue. I then thought of trying a felt beater (which I haven't used in decades) so I started resting the beater onto the head, to prevent excess bounce. I'm not a Bonham purist, whereas I exchanged the 14x10 with a 14x14 and I play a 14x8 maple snare. I also use Aquarian heads and Sabians. Nevertheless, I still dig the kit.@@someroomtodrum
I can imagine the wood beaters buzz a lot without the port. I’m definitely not going for an exact Bonham sound either. That’s why I chose the more modern EC heads. I just love the look and sound of this kit.
Hi Leadman, I'm happy you mentioned the lowboy wooden beater in conjunction with this kit. Would you recommend it as a beater with plenty of "boom"? or is the bounce too much of a problem?@@Leadman1
@@MrMmnngghh Definitely go with a ported resonate head. I personally like the attack / sound of a wooden beater. It's something that one must experiment with.
More than once, I've been accused of copying Bonham because I have basically the same kit (I put the the 18" tom to the left of the hats), including the 2002 Paistes, but the fact is...... its because Bonham got it right..... at least when he used 3 crashes.
It's such a great setup. I may move the 16" to my left. It's too much of a stretch to twist all the way to the right with both floors.
So angry with myself for selling that same kit few years ago!
You can check my oldest videos on my channel if you want to hear how the same kit sounds like tuned high like with that Bonham tuning style!
It’s a sweet kit!
I DID like this video!
Yay!
I owned a version of this kit in silver sparkle, it looked amazing but sounded average as, I tried heaps of different heads and tunings, and I never really dug the sound, and shifting that massive kick drum around was a pain in the ass 😂.....ended up selling it now I've got a tama and it sounds heaps better, if ya dig it tho props to you.
Your playing is solid as by the way, churr
I'm pretty happy with how it sounds but it's still not my ideal kit. I love the way it looks though.
@@someroomtodrum definately a mean looking kit.
I made the kick on my centennial sound pretty fat with an aquarium superkick 2, try it maybe, sounded better than an emad in my opinion, made it sound massive ✌️🤙
@@jimbobmaximus515 oh yeah, I love the SK2s.
Put the emad reso on the bass. I love mine.
I wasn’t able to find one in this size, but I’d love to try it if they make a 26”
Taiwan Ludwig kit?
Yes, but they still sound great. Time will tell how well-made they are.
There are plenty of modern drumheads that give a fatter/deeper tone than those Bonzo used. Clear vintage emperor would be ideal for my toms and an EMAD for the kick.
I love the EMAD. The EC2s have been great but I’m curious to try something else.
Sounded too tinny not tiny lol
It's not a "superphonic", it's a
(Supraphonic) !!!
It says Supraphonic in the video 6:52
ECs are terrible long term. The EC control ring falls apart over time. Too bad, they sound good.
That’s a bummer. I’ll see how they hold up, I guess.
Could have got it for 50p as hardly anyone is playing those size kits. Break a leg
Sorry, but the onlly nice thing of that kit, are the shells. hardware and badges are terrible
Fair points. I really don't like the badges, either.
Congratulations, you made a Ludwig maple kit sound as dull and lifeless as most all modern drums. Geez, just buy the crap they market to that sound already.
Fr fr
Aw yeah, this is why I make these videos.
Tuning and miking
It's modern with hints of Bonham like sprinkled in. Never say it's not versatile
@@kennyhamilton precisely. How boring would that be if we all did the same thing the way we’re “supposed” to do it? It’s all subjective.
original heads sounded best
They weren't bad
Chinese made drums a glorified elite maple kit on par with a Gretsch Catalina or a ddrum maple. Nothing fantastic with these drums other than milking more money off the Zep/Bonham name. Cheaply made drums nothing special. Not a true Ludwig. Hope you didn’t pay more than 800 bucks!
They still sound good for how inexpensive they are. I'm poor and they get the job done, for now.
No midrange ! Where's the midrange ?
It’s in there, just very minimal. Personal taste.