Usually this can be eliminated by switching the wall print order as well There is a setting in cura to print the outermost wall last, this not only improves wall quality but helps hide the layer start seam. If you have your retraction/wipe distance dialed in you won't notice the layer change position at all
without over or under extrusion z-seams are much less noticeable than in the picture in the video. changing the z-seam alignment isn't going to fix this though...
This is incorrect. The seam is caused by over extrusion at the end of a print. This can be fixed or greatly reduced by using a coast setting. It stop extruding a set distance away from the end of the line. Allowing for the built up pressure to be used at the end.
The real answer is fixing your pressure advance settings to minimize the z seam as much as possible. It can not be outright eliminated and in conjunction with aligned seam or seam hiding will look considerably better
I feel like dude didn't even answer the right question. the guy asked how to fix the lines in the print not how to fix the blobs the lines look more like ringing to me
This was incredibly helpful, thank you. I feel bad though, because at the beginning i thought you were just going to say "get good" instead of advice 🤣
You could also simply turn the item in the slice machine and then click slice again and see where the white line is. You don't need to add any settings
the wavy lines throughout the print can be caused by a number of issues like loose belts, shifting buildplate, loose gantry etc. but the idea that a Z-seam is something that you have to deal with when 3D printing isnt actually the case look into “coasting” and “wiping” to truly eliminate any visible Z-seam without vase mode. If its dialed in correctly and all other issues are eliminated their should be little to no wavy lines in the walls of your print and the Z-seam should practically be invisible. Theres a really good video by this, i think, german man who draws it out and explains it very well.
hey that's awesome, but you can also just enable coasting, so that it doesnt happen at all, instead of just moving the seam position to a less conspicuous spot
I have an ELEGOO Neptune 3 plus, and for some reason it prints the pre-extrusion line off the the build plate on the front right side. Do you have any idea of how I can fix this small annoying issue?
I need help I am experience under extrusion with my 3-D printer and whenever I try and print it it just prints really thin and it’s like a bunch of bumps
And maybe you can avoid the seam completely when you can print it in one go without retractions, without layer change retractions. I have seen that you might need retractions from the cylinder to the foot tips, but not for anything else...
@@B3N.1 is not even needed. Imagine doing the outer rims, the inner rims, the infill with short travel moves or at least with travel moves that don't go over any open part. Then just go up one layer and continue... Some slicers have an option to avoid to go over open spaces.
@@richard--s The seam is not caused by retractions. It's there because every layer has a start and end point. Even if you did the whole print in one single continuous extrusion, you'd still have a seam, unless, of course, you're using vase mode. The option you're talking about is called "combing" in Cura and "Avoid crossing perimeters" in PrusaSlicer, and pretty much only helps with stringing.
@@dsp4392 no, it also removes the blobs, the seam, I have seen it. And that's because it moves up that one layer very quickly instead of hanging there, retracting as good as it can (and thereby making a blob), going up 0.2mm quickly, extruding the retracted part (more or less correctly every time) and start moving on one layer higher.
There is much better way to truly hide the seam and not just relocate it. Just spend more than 10 minutes on modeling and make better more complex design where you can design some rised or indented line along which the seam can be hidden.
Echoing an earlier comment: cura, as well as quite a few other slicers, offer the option to randomize your starting position each layer, that way it's essentially just a bunch if scattered dots as opposed to one big ugly line
Usually this can be eliminated by switching the wall print order as well
There is a setting in cura to print the outermost wall last, this not only improves wall quality but helps hide the layer start seam. If you have your retraction/wipe distance dialed in you won't notice the layer change position at all
Good to know!
Thank you for that tip!
WHAT
This option is in other slicers as well, I use simplify3d and print order of layer elements makes huge differences in both speed and quality
10 months late but that will make it hard to put the lighter inside the sleeve as the seam will be on inside also
Z-seam isn't caused by overextrusion. Z-seam is just inevitable with 3D printing unless you're using vase mode. You can hide it, but it's still there.
without over or under extrusion z-seams are much less noticeable than in the picture in the video.
changing the z-seam alignment isn't going to fix this though...
You can make it much less visible by enabling coasting and dialling in the correct value
In cura, you can also enable "smart hiding", which buries the seam inside the part. It's still visibly there, but you can't feel it.
This is incorrect. The seam is caused by over extrusion at the end of a print. This can be fixed or greatly reduced by using a coast setting. It stop extruding a set distance away from the end of the line. Allowing for the built up pressure to be used at the end.
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There is also random options for z-seem; I use for most things.... Good enough for the junk I make myself.
The real answer is fixing your pressure advance settings to minimize the z seam as much as possible. It can not be outright eliminated and in conjunction with aligned seam or seam hiding will look considerably better
I feel like dude didn't even answer the right question.
the guy asked how to fix the lines in the print not how to fix the blobs
the lines look more like ringing to me
You cab randomize layer start in Cura as well. It will be practically invisible then
Exactly that’s what I thought too, this seems like abandaid instead of a fix
But you have to get your settings right, otherwise there will be little bumps all over your print
It can also be moved just by rotating the model in cura, the seam defaults to the back of the bed every time
"how do i prevent this from happening"
"to prevent it you just don't prevent it"
This was incredibly helpful, thank you. I feel bad though, because at the beginning i thought you were just going to say "get good" instead of advice 🤣
Awesome i dont know that. Im waiting for more video like this
You can just rotate the model by 180 degrees along the Z axis 😂
go to advanced settings . much more options even hide seam
so to prevent overextrusion you need to hide the marks? sounds sketchy
You could also simply turn the item in the slice machine and then click slice again and see where the white line is. You don't need to add any settings
Awesome video! I haven't had this problem yet but I have the solution when I do. Thanks 😊
And while you can het the seam out of sight you can greatly improve the seam by getting your settings right. Extra prime and coast
solving a problem with another problem, hell yeah
Yo thanks for the info…. Shit was driving me crazy 😝 Facts!
the wavy lines throughout the print can be caused by a number of issues like loose belts, shifting buildplate, loose gantry etc. but the idea that a Z-seam is something that you have to deal with when 3D printing isnt actually the case look into “coasting” and “wiping” to truly eliminate any visible Z-seam without vase mode. If its dialed in correctly and all other issues are eliminated their should be little to no wavy lines in the walls of your print and the Z-seam should practically be invisible. Theres a really good video by this, i think, german man who draws it out and explains it very well.
Wow thanks for that tip!
I think 'those lines' he was referring to are the layers, not the z-seam.
Agreed
Turn off randomizer, set to none and set position to 0s it'll be way better and smoother transition
You could alter its position too if you want to get more into it. Maybe printed in 2 pieces and then glue it together.
You can also do random z seam for no noticable line
hey that's awesome, but you can also just enable coasting, so that it doesnt happen at all, instead of just moving the seam position to a less conspicuous spot
it can also be the G code list from you printer when printong circles
He asked how to remove it not move it to the back
I mean it's cool to know but it doesn't answer the question of how to fix it
enable coasting
I also heard you can print horizontally instead and it fixes that stuff.
Plus now it’s also easier to remove via sanding
This really helped alot thank you
Sand paper is good too.
I’ve never seen or heard of a z-seam before, try retracing :)
Can we do the same thing on Creality Slice? 🤔
Pls do a short video about all the settings you use and why you do?
Thanks in advance
Hey thank you.
Nice
What about the prusa slicer
It can be a z wobble, and most likely a extrusion gear which creates inconstant layers
I have an ELEGOO Neptune 3 plus, and for some reason it prints the pre-extrusion line off the the build plate on the front right side. Do you have any idea of how I can fix this small annoying issue?
Can i print these on a resin printer or no
How do you fix all the other lines? All those horizontal lines make the work look cheap.
What about vase mode
Experimental features costing
This is the real answer
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You can fix it by sanding it after😊
My favorite solution is a peice of sandpaper
Why not use retraction at layer change and fix your flow rate
I need help I am experience under extrusion with my 3-D printer and whenever I try and print it it just prints really thin and it’s like a bunch of bumps
Hey man I’ve been printing collapsing swords and they never collapse, it’s like they get stuck, do you know how to fix this.
I just turn my prints around 180 😂
People are still using Cura?
Why isn't this the default???
You'd think this would be the default...
Had a ender 5s1 and I never had a z seam
Why not use random seam so you don't have any one spot that looks especially bad?
Z-BINDING
I can't click on it, it is grayed out for me. How can I fix this? (Z seam position, It won't let me)
And turning on coasting
Thought we would extrude less
No it was John wick get it right😂
This helps me because I've been working on 3D printing for a while and I noticed that but I never got past and how to fix it thank you
Bro just enable all setting in cura
Why not just rotate the model?
told him how to move the z seam. Not eliminate it tho.
Easy solution: sandpaper.
can this seam go on the inside?
No
Solution - 12K resin printer
Randomize them
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Set it to random and you don't have a line at all
Doing that makes it look much worse. Having little blobs all over the print is way uglier than a line hidden in the back
Stl of this please
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Not exactly a fix there my dude
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And maybe you can avoid the seam completely when you can print it in one go without retractions, without layer change retractions. I have seen that you might need retractions from the cylinder to the foot tips, but not for anything else...
Vase mode?
@@B3N.1 is not even needed. Imagine doing the outer rims, the inner rims, the infill with short travel moves or at least with travel moves that don't go over any open part. Then just go up one layer and continue...
Some slicers have an option to avoid to go over open spaces.
@@richard--s The seam is not caused by retractions. It's there because every layer has a start and end point. Even if you did the whole print in one single continuous extrusion, you'd still have a seam, unless, of course, you're using vase mode.
The option you're talking about is called "combing" in Cura and "Avoid crossing perimeters" in PrusaSlicer, and pretty much only helps with stringing.
@@dsp4392 no, it also removes the blobs, the seam, I have seen it. And that's because it moves up that one layer very quickly instead of hanging there, retracting as good as it can (and thereby making a blob), going up 0.2mm quickly, extruding the retracted part (more or less correctly every time) and start moving on one layer higher.
@@dsp4392 there should be a mode where the beginning and end of the layer are on the inside of the print not the outer wall
Absolute lack of understanding
Not technically true
There is much better way to truly hide the seam and not just relocate it. Just spend more than 10 minutes on modeling and make better more complex design where you can design some rised or indented line along which the seam can be hidden.
This is wrong dude
Stop using cheap silk pla
the waffle house has found its new host
Dude not here this is a video for helping people
Hey bro there is something wrong with my 3d printer I am a big fan do u have whatsapp so i can send u a video of it
Echoing an earlier comment: cura, as well as quite a few other slicers, offer the option to randomize your starting position each layer, that way it's essentially just a bunch if scattered dots as opposed to one big ugly line
Be good if you could randomise the start of each layer