I think the paracord straps are a great idea but100% of the time I have the stand backpack straps on my shoulders and I go in a long ways over a mile and a half each time so I need the cushioning. Again thanks for the content.@@SamkoTradBow
Love this. No nonsense hunting. Bare bones, git 'er done approach, just how I like it. I'm a long time climber stand hunter but my 1st Gen Lone Wolf's are getting dangerous (not all bolts can be replaced and I've had them shear off on me during a climb). I don't like the newer traction belt models and I absolutely hate any other climber stands. Decided to buy 2 different Summit stands and hate them both. Anyway, I'm looking to make the switch to hang-on stands at the ripe age of 55. You definitely help my confidence that I can make the transition. Can't believe I'm just finding your channel. If all your vids are like this, I'll binge and subscribe! Thanks for sharing!
I'm actually running an identical setup this season. Except, I secured my aider with a castration band instead of a zip tie. It doesnt slide up and down the aider as bad as a zip tie.
Drives me nuts when these guys text me and say "STOP CALLING IT A LINEMANS BELT". It's been A linesmans belt for 100 years. Positioning lanyard is a stupid new politically correct bs term. Heck, I've been hunting with a linemans belt longer than most of these guys that correct me have been alive🤣
but they were called a linemans belt for decades before the politically correct term positioning lanyards. I hate that term. Will never use it. been calling it a linemans belt for 30 years.
i put links to all of it in the video description. The treee stand is made by hunting beast gear. and the climbing sticks are now made by novix hunting products.
17-18 feet. 19 if I really want to stretch stuff out and get acrobatics going. But rather than that I carry I second aider in my pack and if I have to will throw it on my second stick to get me up higher safely
looks like a nice and simple setup, the LINEMANS BELT is a very useful item for hanging lock-on stands. only hipsters use made up names for equipment, it always was and always will be a "linemans belt" ;-). good luck and stay safe.
If you are at least 6 feet tall. I think I would go with the Xop. It seems to have a slightly higher seat height than the lone wolf stands. And it really doesn't weigh that much more. Now if your 5' 9" like me, definitely save up and get the LW or the Novix. It'll make sitting down so more enjoyable. If you only stand up when you hunt, than I see no reason not to go with XoP.
Will add one when I get to a computer in a couple days. But on amazon search 24 inch climbing sling. That's what I'm using. It's just a 24 inch loop rock climbers use. Cost like 8 bucks and works perfect.
Never knew about chanferring (sp?) but that makes total sense. You can do that on any batwing and platform right? That might help me to get the stand to set better. When I practice, the batwing is seated but sometimes there is a little gap. That could be because I'm not high enough on the stick and stomping DOWN on the platform. I feel better using two straps on the stand also. I'm a petite hunter so I need every advantage that I can get to using 2 sticks. It never dawned on me that I could set the first stick as high as I could and climb up the tree while grabbing onto the stick to get to my aider. (I'm 5'2" so getting the first stick high is a challenge with my little arms :)) I'm gonna keep practicing and give those few tips a try. I may decide to do some filing of the teeth and see what that brings.
The chamfer gulps tremendously. And you don't need to chamfer much. Just 5 or 8 licks with a file to remove the hard point. You can always chamfer more later if needed. But just knock the point off. As long as you have cover 2 sticks is all you need. I hunt a couple dozen times a year being only 1 or 2 sticks high. As long as you have cover you are good to go!
I’d be careful taking a file to your platform as you’re looking at voiding your warranty if anything were to happen. Or if you were just not happy with your results. I’d start off with the antler bracket. That’s a cheap $25 replacement woops. The platform is all your money. Just a little honesty on that.
@@michigangrownoutdoors7254 what part of a platform would ever need warranty? And only doing the bat wing or antler bracket does nothing. It's all or nothing. You can't do one and not the other or it won't slide. It's your choice. But for me and the last 15 years of doing the chamfer no way I would ever go back to that unsafe and horrible method of toe hooking. If anything should void a warranty it should be tow hooking! I will 100% stick to my chamfer method and a simple quick stomp before I get in the stand.
Been marathon watching your channel for the past week. Not a trad bow guy, but I’m definitely using a mobile stand setup this year. I hunt all private farms in IL, but tired of moving stands all summer and half the time during the season.
I still use the flat strap with the normal buckle for my lineman belt but I just started doing all of this. I’ve always used a climber. You kinda taught me about the sticks and stand and harness and all of that. I want to use the rope because it’s not as bulky as the strap but I don’t really no the prussic knot and all of that. I no it comes already tied up but idk just have to learn it. For now I’ve just been using the flat strap with the buckle it works I just have a long slack line hanging and it can be a little loud to lol.
Lots of great lineman belt options out there. The ropema. One like I use is my favorite system. Prussik systems are also great. But very important to use one to stay safe and be able to work hanging the stand etc.
@@SamkoTradBow yea after I used a harness and a lineman belt it all made sense.. i have the lone wolf alpha to so it’s a bigger one little heavier but worth it once it’s up because I have room. But I’ll probably upgrade eventually something a little lighter and the line man belt o actually might start messing with now before the season starts we have about a month. I’ll watch your video on the ropema.
I agree that altering the antler bracket or top bracket does help with setting the stand a ton… but my worry with altering the platform does void the warranty… for the price of this stand that’s super notable. Honestly for the price I should t have to take a file to it imo. I can get into a novix stand and not have that worry… But super good point and tip. Just wouldn’t be telling guys to void warranty with the platform mods. At least with the. Racket you can spend $25 and get a new one. Cheap woops replacement. lol
It's an all or nothing deal. Chamfering only the top bracket does nothing. Need to do the platform too. And 1. Should not void any warranty and 2 a platform should never need warranty anyway. It's a hung or metal with no moving parts or anything to go wrong.
Yea in theory nothing should go wrong. But I would think any time you alter the construction of a product you’re looking at voiding a warranty. You’re telling me if I grinder or filed down on that back bracket which led it to break (say I’m just dumb and have no self control) lol and it breaks in the tree. They will replace that? How would it not void warranty?
I also angled my top bracket… helped big time when toe hooking as needed or even just a cam lock from the side off my sticks. You’re angling platform when you do that so it’s already not. Biting at the base. Idk when spending $625 I’d think I shouldn’t need to file my stand away.
Just looked at warranty and return policies… it specifies damaged items for refunds and even if it doesn’t have its original box… and a 20 day limit on refunds… from purchase date. And you can only warranty something if you purchased from hunting beast. No 3rd party purchase.
Not to mention when messaging the company when I had this stand, I asked about altering the platform and if they would still warranty it, they said no. So I also have those emails if you wanted to see.
awesome stand setup and its designed for speed and efficiency. KISS works best. i am sure there is a group huddled in a corner cringing at that purple safety tether. its not camo, youre gonna get busted. with your system you can beat a squirrel up a tree. and now that you moving to south, youre gonna sweat all season long.
Yep was thinking about that yesterday out there in the swamp playing around. Thought stop complaining about the heat, pretty soon I will be hauling and hanging stand gear in this heat. So if any ga hunters see a naked man with a stand walking down the trail, it's just me thermo regulating!
i don't like knots for the tether as i simply dont trust myself LOL. For my tactisaddle harness I used a saddle bridge girth hitched to the harness, and tie in to the tradition tree tether carabiner using the prusik on the bridge. It works flawlessly
Mentioning leaving things at the bottom of the tree. I left my little pack I had my climbing steps at the base, had an about 2&1/2 yr old 130 class come in, I wasn’t going to shoot him and didn’t. He came to the tree, nose first went all the way around the tree, got to my open pack, and practically stuck his nose in it then jumped about 6ft back trotted away and was frantically looking around trying to find me. It was pretty funny to watch.
Yep a pack had a lot of scent on it and in it but it's very confined to that once spot right there where it sits. It doesn't shed scent like people do.
Hey Jason - do you still use the hip belt for comfort/weight distribution on longer hikes? Looking to upgrade from the standard straps but curious if you have additional pros/cons or a different recommendation now since that video is ~7 yrs old. Thanks!!
I do not. I carry my stand and sticks on my pack now and have for the last 5 or 6 years. I like it better as the pack has amazing hip belt and suspension comfort. But the hip belt on the stand does work great
Jason, really enjoy your videos, always learn a lot, have a question: What is the weight rating for the Beast Stand cam strap? that tiny strap makes me nervous , just me, anyway appreciate your time.
@@arthurcarstens I think the current beast stans is only rated for 275. I know Dan is working on a bigger version that will be rated for 350 and out soon. I'm 175 and live the best stand. But if I was 250 or more I'd look at different options like the novix or lone wold custom gear or xop. For the higher weight rating
@@SamkoTradBow the flex in my Beast Stand doesn't bother me Being made from a piece of aluminum, not cast aluminum, I know that the flex insures that it won't snap like cast Just had reservations about the strap
Simple and un complicated equals speed and efficient. And thos system works for me and I know it inside and out as its the only system I use. It's not perfect for everyone but my hope is people are able to get some ideas to what might help them with thier system
So no switch the saddle this year, huh? I thought I seen a video you did you were gaining interest in it. I like the saddle simply for hiding behind the tree. I really like that aspect of it. Be safe this year
No. I won't give up my stands. Love hunting from a tree stand. The saddle review I did was to help let saddle guys know about tactisaddles new saddle that are out for this year. But I will always be a stand guy.
Love my lineman’s belt!
Awesome! And glad you are taking your safety so seriously
Just ordered the backpack straps for my 3 lone wolf stands. Love the content!
They were so simple and so functional and so cheap. Loved them. I now use paracors straps instead. But thos Allen straps were amazing
I think the paracord straps are a great idea but100% of the time I have the stand backpack straps on my shoulders and I go in a long ways over a mile and a half each time so I need the cushioning. Again thanks for the content.@@SamkoTradBow
Love this. No nonsense hunting. Bare bones, git 'er done approach, just how I like it. I'm a long time climber stand hunter but my 1st Gen Lone Wolf's are getting dangerous (not all bolts can be replaced and I've had them shear off on me during a climb). I don't like the newer traction belt models and I absolutely hate any other climber stands. Decided to buy 2 different Summit stands and hate them both. Anyway, I'm looking to make the switch to hang-on stands at the ripe age of 55. You definitely help my confidence that I can make the transition. Can't believe I'm just finding your channel. If all your vids are like this, I'll binge and subscribe! Thanks for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed the video. I have many tree stand videos and how to climb, carry, and use them safely and efficiently. Any questions let me know
I'm actually running an identical setup this season. Except, I secured my aider with a castration band instead of a zip tie. It doesnt slide up and down the aider as bad as a zip tie.
@bradleyhermes304 great tip. Will have to look in to band
Only problem with the aluminum rings is they are noisy verses the nylon loops . Good video!
not even a little bit. I wrapped them in stealth strips! dead quiet. Stealth strips are amazing!
Jason, on the harness which of the leg buckle do you like and why?
Fixed.
Quick Connect Pass thru.
Cobra.
Fixed. It's simple, quiet and less tangling
Great video Jason.
Thanks
It's only a positioning lanyard to the new saddle guys.
Drives me nuts when these guys text me and say "STOP CALLING IT A LINEMANS BELT". It's been A linesmans belt for 100 years. Positioning lanyard is a stupid new politically correct bs term. Heck, I've been hunting with a linemans belt longer than most of these guys that correct me have been alive🤣
We call those “positions lanyards” secondary’s on a line crew, they’re used for transferring over things while climbing poles
but they were called a linemans belt for decades before the politically correct term positioning lanyards. I hate that term. Will never use it. been calling it a linemans belt for 30 years.
How do I know where the product bought from?
i put links to all of it in the video description. The treee stand is made by hunting beast gear. and the climbing sticks are now made by novix hunting products.
Where did I get the red strap can’t find one in 10 inches
found them at a truck stop a couple years ago. Have not been able to find them since.
@@SamkoTradBow gotcha thanks
I'm sure you may have covered this in a previous video but with your 1 aider and 3 sticks how high are you in the tree thanks and love your videos
17-18 feet. 19 if I really want to stretch stuff out and get acrobatics going. But rather than that I carry I second aider in my pack and if I have to will throw it on my second stick to get me up higher safely
looks like a nice and simple setup, the LINEMANS BELT is a very useful item for hanging lock-on stands. only hipsters use made up names for equipment, it always was and always will be a "linemans belt" ;-). good luck and stay safe.
🤣🤣 yep will always be a lineman belt to me too.
Are those Novix sticks or the LWCG sticks? Or are they the "old" Lone Wolf sticks? Thanks!
Original lone wolf sticks. Same as the novix are now
@@SamkoTradBow Thanks!!
Would you use a xop stand or what is your opinion. Just can’t afford giving 600 for the beast stand. Thanks
Xop is very good. Personally I'd go with the novix helo if I was not in a beast stand
Thank you I will look in to one of them.
If you are at least 6 feet tall. I think I would go with the Xop. It seems to have a slightly higher seat height than the lone wolf stands. And it really doesn't weigh that much more. Now if your 5' 9" like me, definitely save up and get the LW or the Novix. It'll make sitting down so more enjoyable. If you only stand up when you hunt, than I see no reason not to go with XoP.
Jason, maybe I overlooked it, but have the link to that aider? Don’t see it. Thanks man and good luck this season.
Will add one when I get to a computer in a couple days. But on amazon search 24 inch climbing sling. That's what I'm using. It's just a 24 inch loop rock climbers use. Cost like 8 bucks and works perfect.
Hunting season is already going here in FL
Awesome! But man that's some heat to deal with..lol
@@SamkoTradBow indeed! I used to always hunt in Georgia until this year. We are moving to a very rural area in north Florida this fall.
Never knew about chanferring (sp?) but that makes total sense. You can do that on any batwing and platform right? That might help me to get the stand to set better. When I practice, the batwing is seated but sometimes there is a little gap. That could be because I'm not high enough on the stick and stomping DOWN on the platform. I feel better using two straps on the stand also. I'm a petite hunter so I need every advantage that I can get to using 2 sticks. It never dawned on me that I could set the first stick as high as I could and climb up the tree while grabbing onto the stick to get to my aider. (I'm 5'2" so getting the first stick high is a challenge with my little arms :)) I'm gonna keep practicing and give those few tips a try. I may decide to do some filing of the teeth and see what that brings.
The chamfer gulps tremendously. And you don't need to chamfer much. Just 5 or 8 licks with a file to remove the hard point. You can always chamfer more later if needed. But just knock the point off. As long as you have cover 2 sticks is all you need. I hunt a couple dozen times a year being only 1 or 2 sticks high. As long as you have cover you are good to go!
I’d be careful taking a file to your platform as you’re looking at voiding your warranty if anything were to happen. Or if you were just not happy with your results. I’d start off with the antler bracket. That’s a cheap $25 replacement woops. The platform is all your money. Just a little honesty on that.
@@michigangrownoutdoors7254 what part of a platform would ever need warranty? And only doing the bat wing or antler bracket does nothing. It's all or nothing. You can't do one and not the other or it won't slide. It's your choice. But for me and the last 15 years of doing the chamfer no way I would ever go back to that unsafe and horrible method of toe hooking. If anything should void a warranty it should be tow hooking! I will 100% stick to my chamfer method and a simple quick stomp before I get in the stand.
Hi, Jason what made you switch your aider to this new one? It looks like you can add tubing in it? Thanks
Thos one is just thin, light, and climbing rated. And the way they stitch it , it stays open perfectly for me.
And the pack stays on the ground and then gets pulled up after you're in the stand, correct?
Yep the pack and bow come up on the same bow pull up rope. I have a video coming out on that soon. I will find the link and send it to you
ruclips.net/video/6d1llCmXyKk/видео.html
@@SamkoTradBow thanks much! That's smooth.
Been marathon watching your channel for the past week. Not a trad bow guy, but I’m definitely using a mobile stand setup this year. I hunt all private farms in IL, but tired of moving stands all summer and half the time during the season.
The mobile aspect makes life easy and brings freedom to hunt where and when you want
I still use the flat strap with the normal buckle for my lineman belt but I just started doing all of this. I’ve always used a climber. You kinda taught me about the sticks and stand and harness and all of that. I want to use the rope because it’s not as bulky as the strap but I don’t really no the prussic knot and all of that. I no it comes already tied up but idk just have to learn it. For now I’ve just been using the flat strap with the buckle it works I just have a long slack line hanging and it can be a little loud to lol.
Lots of great lineman belt options out there. The ropema. One like I use is my favorite system. Prussik systems are also great. But very important to use one to stay safe and be able to work hanging the stand etc.
@@SamkoTradBow yea after I used a harness and a lineman belt it all made sense.. i have the lone wolf alpha to so it’s a bigger one little heavier but worth it once it’s up because I have room. But I’ll probably upgrade eventually something a little lighter and the line man belt o actually might start messing with now before the season starts we have about a month. I’ll watch your video on the ropema.
@@garrettstraffon608 that alpha is an amazing stand. Have one myself and love it
Don't forget your Tacticool hunting gear 😜
Only tacticool hunting gear I need down here is perforated undies for the heat 🤣
@@SamkoTradBow lmao 🤣
A…..Yup, it’s a lineman’s belt as far as I’m concerned
B…..Hard to be the O.G. lone wolf sticks!
Agree 100% on both counts
I agree that altering the antler bracket or top bracket does help with setting the stand a ton… but my worry with altering the platform does void the warranty… for the price of this stand that’s super notable. Honestly for the price I should t have to take a file to it imo. I can get into a novix stand and not have that worry…
But super good point and tip. Just wouldn’t be telling guys to void warranty with the platform mods. At least with the. Racket you can spend $25 and get a new one. Cheap woops replacement. lol
It's an all or nothing deal. Chamfering only the top bracket does nothing. Need to do the platform too. And 1. Should not void any warranty and 2 a platform should never need warranty anyway. It's a hung or metal with no moving parts or anything to go wrong.
Yea in theory nothing should go wrong. But I would think any time you alter the construction of a product you’re looking at voiding a warranty. You’re telling me if I grinder or filed down on that back bracket which led it to break (say I’m just dumb and have no self control) lol and it breaks in the tree. They will replace that?
How would it not void warranty?
I also angled my top bracket… helped big time when toe hooking as needed or even just a cam lock from the side off my sticks. You’re angling platform when you do that so it’s already not. Biting at the base. Idk when spending $625 I’d think I shouldn’t need to file my stand away.
Just looked at warranty and return policies… it specifies damaged items for refunds and even if it doesn’t have its original box… and a 20 day limit on refunds… from purchase date. And you can only warranty something if you purchased from hunting beast. No 3rd party purchase.
Not to mention when messaging the company when I had this stand, I asked about altering the platform and if they would still warranty it, they said no. So I also have those emails if you wanted to see.
awesome stand setup and its designed for speed and efficiency. KISS works best. i am sure there is a group huddled in a corner cringing at that purple safety tether. its not camo, youre gonna get busted. with your system you can beat a squirrel up a tree. and now that you moving to south, youre gonna sweat all season long.
Yep was thinking about that yesterday out there in the swamp playing around. Thought stop complaining about the heat, pretty soon I will be hauling and hanging stand gear in this heat. So if any ga hunters see a naked man with a stand walking down the trail, it's just me thermo regulating!
@@SamkoTradBow visual we did not need. New meaning to naked and afraid. 😳
Good stuff. I appreciate your focus on safety. I know for a fact we don't bounce very well!! Lol
Yep falling out of trees is not much fun. Better to be tied in and not hit the ground
i don't like knots for the tether as i simply dont trust myself LOL. For my tactisaddle harness I used a saddle bridge girth hitched to the harness, and tie in to the tradition tree tether carabiner using the prusik on the bridge. It works flawlessly
Awesome. Sounds like you have the perfect system for how you climb
Mentioning leaving things at the bottom of the tree. I left my little pack I had my climbing steps at the base, had an about 2&1/2 yr old 130 class come in, I wasn’t going to shoot him and didn’t. He came to the tree, nose first went all the way around the tree, got to my open pack, and practically stuck his nose in it then jumped about 6ft back trotted away and was frantically looking around trying to find me. It was pretty funny to watch.
Yep a pack had a lot of scent on it and in it but it's very confined to that once spot right there where it sits. It doesn't shed scent like people do.
Hey Jason - do you still use the hip belt for comfort/weight distribution on longer hikes? Looking to upgrade from the standard straps but curious if you have additional pros/cons or a different recommendation now since that video is ~7 yrs old. Thanks!!
I do not. I carry my stand and sticks on my pack now and have for the last 5 or 6 years. I like it better as the pack has amazing hip belt and suspension comfort. But the hip belt on the stand does work great
Jason, really enjoy your videos, always learn a lot, have a question: What is the weight rating for the Beast Stand cam strap?
that tiny strap makes me nervous , just me, anyway appreciate your time.
Great question and I don't know. It's the same basic strap used on 99% of tree stands but I don't know the weight rating.
@@SamkoTradBow thanks for the help
Am 250+ lbs on a good day just trying to settle my nerves I guess
@@arthurcarstens I think the current beast stans is only rated for 275. I know Dan is working on a bigger version that will be rated for 350 and out soon. I'm 175 and live the best stand. But if I was 250 or more I'd look at different options like the novix or lone wold custom gear or xop. For the higher weight rating
@@SamkoTradBow the flex in my Beast Stand doesn't bother me
Being made from a piece of aluminum, not cast aluminum,
I know that the flex insures that it won't snap like cast
Just had reservations about the strap
@@arthurcarstens you are 100% and know your stuff well. Most people can't comprehend that about aluminum
Awesome video I like your way of speed and efficiency and simplicity also that’s awesome I may do the same in my system
Simple and un complicated equals speed and efficient. And thos system works for me and I know it inside and out as its the only system I use. It's not perfect for everyone but my hope is people are able to get some ideas to what might help them with thier system
I order the tactisaddle harness last week, I can’t wait to use it this season!
You are gonna love it
So no switch the saddle this year, huh? I thought I seen a video you did you were gaining interest in it. I like the saddle simply for hiding behind the tree. I really like that aspect of it. Be safe this year
No. I won't give up my stands. Love hunting from a tree stand. The saddle review I did was to help let saddle guys know about tactisaddles new saddle that are out for this year. But I will always be a stand guy.