guys!! i know they still did some shitty stuff to renjun and i’m definitely unhappy about that but i was just trying to clear a couple things up... i still hate sm lmao
Oh my god if you don't believe the "victim" himself read this thread. In the first place there was NO evidence of what happened. Clout chasers just saw the pics and made up a shocking story to go with it... twitter.com/sueetchenle/status/1156920292582682630
Glad you're making this video. But I think you should tell the truth in the other videos desc and make a comment and pin it because there are still uninformed comments coming in from 1 min ago thinking everything's still true 😬
яєιи I know literally just made a scenario out of nothing and had to make renjun clear up a whole situation that shouldn’t have been an issue literally causing more stress 🙄
ash suni ya exactly the fact the manager cursed at Renjun they want us to believe it’s all rainbows and unicorns ayonder when the past they discriminate against foreign and non-Korean idols. SM spinning some tall tales again
Yeah like if the airpod story is real so why didn't the manager go with him or at least give him an umbrella??!? They should still make sure he won't get sick 🤷
@@cinthiagloriamargita Win-win had worked so hard to be an idol and left his Homeland and when he got into nct 127 am removed him they also won't let him do stages or dance alone by himself these r just some examples
I also have a weird feeling about this, the way they told him to stfu bothers me the most and this might sound weird but I saw him in my dream last night and he was wearing a black t-shirt like in the vlive and he looked upset/serious. I’m still worried.
True omg, if you couldn't find a car you wouldn't be as annoyed/confused. Besides, knowing Renjun he's not the guy to be annoyed while talking over a small thing
Tbh I feel like they made Renjun say that story to get us to stop attacking them bc based on the video from what Ive seen he did not look embarrassed at all he just looked very worried and lost,,,it didn’t look like he was trying to find his airpods in the slightest... Also there’s no excuse for leaving him in the rain like that + without a manager or protection even if he was trying to find his airpods
even if the story is true, where did his umbrella go? he had it and then he didn’t, wouldn’t he have just kept it with him? idk but it seems kinda sketchy. He looks very worried and distraught over AirPods :/
If you don't believe the "victim" himself read this thread. In the freest place there was NO evidence of what happened. Clout chasers just saw the pics and made up a shocking story to go with it... this isn't the time to be sceptical, that time was when this blew up with nothing but tweets... twitter.com/sueetchenle/status/1156920292582682630
@@yeondamie48 He probably gave it away, he chose to take off his backpack and leave it the car too. It's just a little rain, it won't hurt him, I don't even bring umbrella w/ me when it rains.
hello o he looked for them inside the building and then when he went outside, he couldn’t find the car (they moved so others would be able to pass through) and that’s why he looked confused
It really isn’t. SM forced him to say it to do damage control just like SM denies dating rumors when it’s true it’s just a PR tactic for companies to keep their image. But we all heard and saw them cut out the clip of the manager cursing at Renjun for talking about his vacation. Not to mention not being able to mention WinWin. Legit the Exo China line is gone. Han Geng from Super Junior left too because he wasn’t given commercials and acting roles. SM = wants China money abuses China idols period
@@tobesdan1390 ok they didnt treat him well sometimes...but theres a full video of this situation where he runs back to the building, comes back to the cars, cant find the white van and thinks a white car is their car, open the door of the car but then says something to a man (probably apologises cuz like he said it wasnt the right car) and then starts calling... so i think what he said was the truth...And I also heard somewhere that the white car had to move for other cars so thats why the car was gone
Pretzel what do you mean white car there’s a video the car is black. Wow SM minions getting the info mixed up cause the lies are just so inconsistent from the truth
@@tobesdan1390 so you havent seen the full video... right? 'SM's minion' .... theres 1 white car/van where the members are and then there's another white car which he mistakes for the first white car like he said.
@Pretzel I saw the thread it clearly shows Jeno in a black vehicle waving his hand if you aren’t colorblind mobile.twitter.com/sueetchenle/status/1156927085333471232 so it’s black car not white one
Especially cause this all happened AFTER we all mass unsubscribed. I realize that I could be completely wrong but something about this whole thing is very fishy.
@@nenosuns Exactly like the staff knew that there were fans around them why the heck would they let him go back to "get his AirPods" by HIMSELF in the first place?
why do i feel that they made him say that it was a misunderstanding, im probably a bit too paranoid but i hope thats not how it is. that being said, no one even bothered to escort him as he went out, knowing fans may approach him at any time.
Gaia yeah and what about the other times they cursed at him and told him he couldn’t mention WinWin? it’s all adding up. If they never cursed at him and did all that we wouldn’t even have thought much about this rain car incident. It’s just too much occurrences to just be a “misunderstanding”
Hmm idk what to believe. On one hand, I believe that it's easy for us NCTZENS to overreact because we care so much for the members, but at the same time I wouldn't doubt that SM would tell Renjun to say that to save themselves.
Priscila I agree just looking at the history of how Chinese idols in SM were treated from Han Geng to Kris Tao Luhan and now Renjun and WinWin people lie actions don’t
Tobes Dan Exactly. I want to believe him, but considering what has happened before he could just be telling us what he was told to say. However, I guess we have to see where this goes 🤷🏾♀️
DON'T DELETE IT! You took a stance against what you thought was mistreatment at that time and it gained traction. Personally even if not everything is accurate I think the video should stay up as a reminder to sm and nctzens that we won't be taking mistreatment lightly and what happens when they do that fuckshit. It's a form of accountability imo
one day after media announce sm is broke and that sm has to shut down many buildings including artium and coex: renjun gets a solo radio show, we get a vlive with him in center and him explaining the whole manager situation even though no one asked for it, it’s obvious the vlive was just to clear sm’s image and they tried to make it look natural with having 3 other members while we know well that there are at least 10 sm staff behind every vlive directing what they should say, nothing he said justified him being out in contaminated rain running around without a umbrella nor staff. the truth is that sm is broke and that they will do the most to clear their image, and the sad thing is that fans are believing this, put 1+1 and you’ll see
hjs nctzens will really believe anything to keep up the illusion that everything is alright and perfect... nothing is alright with this company and nothing has been !!!
hjs i’m sorry but the airpods... why would he go out w/o his bag or umbrella to find airpods in a car park only to stand there looking lost and hurt,, then ringing someone 💀 sm really tried it but come on that video didn't look anything like someone who was looking for their airpods
omg glad i'm not the only one that feels like this. i feel the timing of the vlive is weird (usually it's not that late and done after some schedule, cmiiw) and it's aired the same day SM announce renjun would be radio dj? idk it feels like SM plans that day to be clarification day or something, esp after SM gone broke like you said.
Renjun always got us with the misunderstanding lol remember the 'crying incident cuz of Mark last with Dreams' but actually it's just his nose bleeding on stage LMAO
Haahans I wasn’t sure if I should believe the AirPods story but now that you said that, I think I should cuz he apparently likes making us look like clowns 😂
Still calling bs on sm. Like after all their stocks go down they now decide for Renjun to start speaking and I heard he even said that the managers and idols were like brothers and sister?? I THINK NOT. Also dissapointed that sm gained 2,000+ subscribers in a night like does anyone not think this is kinda sketchy??
All we can do now is trust Renjun. Just think about how we gathered enough power to have influence on SM and do something at least. Until we have something definitive, just focus on sending love :)
I mean, at the end of the day we were just being mom stans and looking out for out kids. They, and the rest of NCT, deserve to be treated with respect. The lead up to the car incident was already tense with all the vlive stuff, and the other false crap that was made up and ugly rumors going around (the YuJae thing, the Jeno thing, Haechan's comment, etc etc). By the time Renjun's thing happened, his past mistreatment and the new stuff just blew up. What we;ve learned was TO FIRST WAIT FOR FULL FACT before attacking. We believed a manager was yelling at YuJae, and it was a lie. We believed Jeno was being sexually harassed, which is likely not true. We just jump on the bandwagon, and our emotions and protectiveness takes over. Dont feel bad about your reaction. We were just genuinely worried.
Whatever the situation was, SM is still at fault for letting him go back alone in the rain with no umbrella and no security, this damage control is nothing, we were not overreacting for nothing
@@nenosuns According to the vlive the managers usually get stuff back that they forgot but they always feel bad about it, so he it was his own decision to get it himself. He probably went without an umbrella because he thought it will be quick. (And most likely he also was in a car parking lot fans could not get in.) Also, read this: twitter.com/dreamyrose12/status/1156274203680788480 twitter.com/sueetchenle/status/1156920292582682630 Even if people dislike SM, how is it okay to accuse the manager (poor girl) who probably didn’t even do anything wrong of harsh things like touching Jeno inappropriately or her stealing Renjuns seat (when she was probably the driver) without any solid proof? (Also for the vlives there is also no proof that the manager was the one who said all those things)
I HOPE this was a misunderstanding, but how am I supposed to believe that they didn't like force him to tweet that, after I have seen how else they have mistreated him and other Chinese idols. Idk what I want to believe exactly Edit: or it was on vlive cuz that matters apparently
wow i'm glad it's not what it looked like but i still scream inside bc of seeing their scared faces during different vlive's :// i hate how controlled they are, it's like the managers are still treating them like a rookie group. it's not only rude towards the members but it also makes it difficult for new fans to see their true personalities. i'm also tired of their favoritism... ALSO, ISTG IF THEY MADE ALL OF THIS UP AS AN EXCUSE IMMA FIGHT SM
Tbh, i don't believe it, it looks like something SM would do to damage control after that, making him say an excuse like that while they're still at fault for letting him go back alone in the rain with no umbrella and no security
*Thank God it turn out to be something not serious* But it's just cause Zens think about them a lot and so they mistake things not only bc of SM's history but Zens love for our babies
This seems really sketchy to me honestly like the managers/SM are just forcing him to say this just so all of the efforts the fans have given to show their care and compassion are just erased and the company can get all of their money back again. For this situation, sure what Renjun said might have a level of truth in it, but it still doesn’t justify how Renjun was told to shut up, to move out of the way, and to never mention Winwin’s name ever again. I don’t know bruh, but SM is known to be a snake 🤷♀️
It’s a relief that these things didn’t really happen.It’s too bad though that renjun is still being treated badly in some ways. SM are still losing subs quickly
One thing I'm thankful about learning in journalism is that "get all your facts right before publishing a story because it could get you into some serious trouble and can ruin the other sides life permanently , whether the story is true or not" Nice one genius 👌
There aren't. Those are pretty hard to misunderstand - leaving us with either "there is one manager who is mistreating members and not doing their job properly" or "nct managers in general mistreat members and are rude to the china line".
Zoe Szinek yep. they have a lot of managers and staffs, we really have no idea which one is good and which one is bad. i’ve seen pictures of nct members hugging some managers in airports so im sure that not /all/ the managers are bad
i appreciate you being mature and admitting you jumped to conclusions!!! a lot of people do this and it honestly shouldnt be ignored. because imagine if she lost her job for nothing? that would ruin her life and i like to think about the other side. thank you again for mak a video to explain ♡♡♡
thank you for clearing the misunderstanding, but still, that doesn’t completely clear that sm treats their chinese idols differently than the others. 😃😃
It doesn't matter that he was the one "at fault", she still lacked when she left him to go back alone in the rain with no coat, no umbrella and no security while she was safe and warm in the car. Is not her that could be attacked by a sasaeng or something like this, it's him, it's still her job to protect them and put their safety first, what she didn't
i honestly still find it hard to believe what renjun said was actually true but i honestly hope it is and that it was all a misunderstanding but it still doesnt change the fact that sm treats there foreign idols like shit
so glad to find ppl like you who don’t deny it if they did a mistake and I’m really glad some of the info wasn’t true but I hope sm treats their idols better than this
Tbh I still don't know how to feel about this I want to believe what renjun just said but I still kind of feel like sm just made him say that But for now let's just trust what renjun said and hope nothing like this ever happens to him or any other member
Oh God, that video of Renjun in the rain has seriously popped up in my head several times a day and I've felt so horrible and helpless about it. It felt like such a heartbreaking situation and I couldn't help but try to imagine what it would feel like for him in that moment, making myself feel even worse about it in the progress. You have no idea how relieved I am to hear it wasn't true. Like I literally let out the deepest sigh of relief and could feel my shoulders relax. Of course, there's everything else, and SM is still shit, but that was just torturing me honestly...
Thank you for being so fast to clear things up! I definitely felt like a clown bc the entire fandom exploded over that situation even though the original vid of renjun had crucial footage cut out of it but I'm just glad he's okay. I do think he's telling the truth bc fandoms have a tendency to point fingers and jump to conclusions crazy fast but also I cant help but notice how nct are ALWAYS looking behind the camera at their managers during vlives and I haven't noticed that with any other group but who knows :\\ I can only hope the group as a whole isn't hurt with this whole sm financial situation
the thing is the whole thing that he said could’ve been fake and sm wanted to ‘clear’ things up to make their entertainment look ‘better’ so right now i don’t know who to believe. we all know sm is a bad entertainment and treats their artists horribly. this is most likely an excuse that they made renjun assure the fans so they don’t lose money or attention.
For everyone saying that it's fake: before Renjun's statement, the original fan who filmed the video came out and explained the video (without the cuts), and it aligns with Renjun's story perfectly. Keep supporting Renjun and the other members, and make sure to fact check everything you read or see!
Just think,renjun has already gone to the first place where the first car parked at there but there was not....And if Renjun is standing beside the real car the manager can ask him to sit in the car...
Hey raise their hands anyone who thinks that they forced our baby renjun to say that as an excuse to not look bad ...hmmm ... hun I don’t think u can change the look on renjuns pretty face ,u can definitely see that it wasn’t because of AirPods ... renjun fightingggg 💪🏼💪🏼🥺🥺💜💜
I def wanna support members and protect them but I hope ppl hear what you said about misinformation, it can spread quickly and hurt innocent ppl so I hope nctzens can be more careful about what they believe. There are many ppl who work in SM, there can be many genuinely caring ppl (as I’ve seen) and there may be problematic ppl too but it’s important to remember that SM is not one big evil person. They’re a company and have so many diff types of workers and I think some of them are unfairly thrown under the bus in the heat of the moment. (However there are things that ARE a problem and I hope they address those issues and most importantly I hope the members are happy and well taken care of)
I'm so happy to see this! Like for real, I've always know there are fishy things in the kpop industry, specially when it comes to sm and chinese idols (sm, we still have to talk about Winwin and WayV), and rude managers, but yesterday when I found out about this whole issue (I'm not a dream stan) I was so depressed.
also, the first video helped me to understand better what happened to SUJU and EXO's ex members and other stuff, I'm glad you made that even if there was some wrong information abt nct's situation, thank you!
I know it is late but I can tell you what I know about SUJU, they are the first Korean boy group with foreign member (China) and during their debut the entertainment regulations about foreigners is still uncleared. As far as I know, foreigners are only allowed no more than 3 public broadcast and there were visa issue that prevent hangeng to appear in promotions
I think a lot of people are kinda embarrassed now because they took everything out of proportion and they have to admit that it was a fansite who said these stuff and that the comment was translated wrong. I kept on telling people that how is jeno Uncomfortable with that manager when he looked like he was mad close with her. I believe that not every manager is the same. I did believe that whoever did tell him to be quite was rude
That's so weird to me Sounds like an excuse the manager told him to tell us Idk i just don't believe it I understand that sm doesn't want everyone to think bad about the manager and the company so they thought of an excuse like that
im happy that you made this follow up video . i know that a lot of other ppl in your place would've just ignored the misinformation or gotten defensive about it. You owned up to accidentally spreading misinformation and i wish there were more ppl like you and I hope you have a great day
See? The lesson is *be thoughtful before you act* This "nct-manager case" have surfaced before, fans outraged with their managers and it turned out that the managers only doing their job and the members even teased them a lot. They're comfortable with each other It's good if you want to protect your fav idols, but pls don't be immature selfish and unthoughtful fans, and here the evidence that we were easily triggered by a few seconds video (that you can't even hear their voices and then you created your own story for it). *Just remember there's a lot of perspectives in one scene* Let's be a healthy fandom okay?
i lov u, don't worry abt the wrong information, everybody who actually cares about the boys like u could believe in that. Thank you for all this video, was very helpful.
And if this isn´t the truth? If they forced to say that? Weare not sure about it, because all who stans EXO and SUJU know what happen to the chinese members. And it´s too sad to know how the entertainment is
I do hate sm, but I don't like when something like this happens and then we all dramatize the whole situation and make a bunch of assumptions. But, we can never be sure that it's the truth, we know that sm treats their idols like shit. Thank you for clearing this up though.
So guys, are u saying that u rather believe that baseless rumour on twitter than believing renjun himself? Even some people on twitter write a long thread explaining the situation BASED on tweet that was posted BY the one who RECORD that video.. She/he said we should stop cursing at the staff, and maybe it's getting out of hand that Renjun thinks that he has to clear this up himself.. The staff has did wrong things,yes.. But the rain incident was not one of it..
I'm so glad that Dream wasn't being mistreated in this situation, though this doesn't take away from the many occasions where Chinese members including Renjun have been mistreated, this seems like a win today.
Sehun Min but, haechan said even before that, the dreamies are always forget to bring their airpods because it’s too small..so their managers are the one that always help to find their airpods..so at that time it was raining so renjun felt sorry towards the manager so he said he wanted to get that airpods by himself.. You can watch their recent vlive
guys!! i know they still did some shitty stuff to renjun and i’m definitely unhappy about that but i was just trying to clear a couple things up... i still hate sm lmao
What's about SM force him to say it.
Definitely forced him to say it :(
Oh my god if you don't believe the "victim" himself read this thread. In the first place there was NO evidence of what happened. Clout chasers just saw the pics and made up a shocking story to go with it...
twitter.com/sueetchenle/status/1156920292582682630
Glad you're making this video. But I think you should tell the truth in the other videos desc and make a comment and pin it because there are still uninformed comments coming in from 1 min ago thinking everything's still true 😬
яєιи I know literally just made a scenario out of nothing and had to make renjun clear up a whole situation that shouldn’t have been an issue literally causing more stress 🙄
But still shutting him off while showing his vacation, talking about winwin is still not right.
Sm is lying about this situation.
Buing Buing I agree and Mia too
And i don't beleive this "excuse" either. The facts don't add up and this could very much be SM trying to do some damage control by making Renjun lie.
ash suni ya exactly the fact the manager cursed at Renjun they want us to believe it’s all rainbows and unicorns ayonder when the past they discriminate against foreign and non-Korean idols. SM spinning some tall tales again
Ikr I'm still mad at that.
Maybe sm forced renjun to say / do that Statement because they dont wanna look bad in public
Burak Firat i was thinking of that too
exactly
Yeah like if the airpod story is real so why didn't the manager go with him or at least give him an umbrella??!? They should still make sure he won't get sick 🤷
snakeess
I agree
but that won’t stop me from blowing up the sm building with kris, tao, luhan, winwin, and renjun
i'll join too while you're at it
Ye same especially the one with winwin
Can you all tell me about win-win? What's happening between with him, nct manager and sm?
@@cinthiagloriamargita well when renjun talk about winwin then the manager said don't talk about winwin to renjun
@@cinthiagloriamargita Win-win had worked so hard to be an idol and left his Homeland and when he got into nct 127 am removed him they also won't let him do stages or dance alone by himself these r just some examples
The real question is... *_did he find his AirPods?_*
Lmaoo 😂😂😂
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Chenle can buy him 100 more
SS Shadow you’re crazy
You forgot to add endless zero’s
@@user-xt8lw3py6v haha facts
i think the manager told him to make up some excuse so they could stop all this drama and get their money back
hmm that crossed my mind but they were all laughing about it and thought it was funny that he walked into the wrong car so i think it’s the truth ?
i was thinking that too Julia son
neowin or it could’ve been scripted
Julia Son I thought that Cos like I have tho weird felling
I also have a weird feeling about this, the way they told him to stfu bothers me the most and this might sound weird but I saw him in my dream last night and he was wearing a black t-shirt like in the vlive and he looked upset/serious. I’m still worried.
What if it's an excuse, this look a little bit sketchy to me, he looks really annoyed, soo I can't belive~
I would be too if I couldn't find my car and seemingly didn't get my airpods back 😳
Rein and I bet you would think it’s “brotherly sisterly love” to be told to “stfu” about your vacation and not mention your fave coworker WinWin 🙃
True omg, if you couldn't find a car you wouldn't be as annoyed/confused. Besides, knowing Renjun he's not the guy to be annoyed while talking over a small thing
I feel the same
Exactly everyone's just accepting this sketchy explanation and I'm like this could very much be SM making Renjun lie to calm down his fans!!
Tbh I feel like they made Renjun say that story to get us to stop attacking them bc based on the video from what Ive seen he did not look embarrassed at all he just looked very worried and lost,,,it didn’t look like he was trying to find his airpods in the slightest...
Also there’s no excuse for leaving him in the rain like that + without a manager or protection even if he was trying to find his airpods
Ikr :(
even if the story is true, where did his umbrella go? he had it and then he didn’t, wouldn’t he have just kept it with him? idk but it seems kinda sketchy. He looks very worried and distraught over AirPods :/
Yeah they should at least give him an umbrella or something warm to wear 🤦
If you don't believe the "victim" himself read this thread. In the freest place there was NO evidence of what happened. Clout chasers just saw the pics and made up a shocking story to go with it...
this isn't the time to be sceptical, that time was when this blew up with nothing but tweets...
twitter.com/sueetchenle/status/1156920292582682630
@@yeondamie48 He probably gave it away, he chose to take off his backpack and leave it the car too. It's just a little rain, it won't hurt him, I don't even bring umbrella w/ me when it rains.
I feel like renjun’s situation was real and he had to make up some lies to clear this out on today’s Vlive I think sm/managers have asked him to
Same
Who knows.. it‘ll be a mystery forever lol
It doesn’t look like he was looking for his “missing” AirPods
j e e v i x exactly.
hello o he looked for them inside the building and then when he went outside, he couldn’t find the car (they moved so others would be able to pass through) and that’s why he looked confused
WOW NCTzens really took it far but that just shows we care but I am glad that it was a mistake now I feel dumb
It really isn’t. SM forced him to say it to do damage control just like SM denies dating rumors when it’s true it’s just a PR tactic for companies to keep their image. But we all heard and saw them cut out the clip of the manager cursing at Renjun for talking about his vacation. Not to mention not being able to mention WinWin. Legit the Exo China line is gone. Han Geng from Super Junior left too because he wasn’t given commercials and acting roles. SM = wants China money abuses China idols period
@@tobesdan1390 ok they didnt treat him well sometimes...but theres a full video of this situation where he runs back to the building, comes back to the cars, cant find the white van and thinks a white car is their car, open the door of the car but then says something to a man (probably apologises cuz like he said it wasnt the right car) and then starts calling...
so i think what he said was the truth...And I also heard somewhere that the white car had to move for other cars so thats why the car was gone
Pretzel what do you mean white car there’s a video the car is black. Wow SM minions getting the info mixed up cause the lies are just so inconsistent from the truth
@@tobesdan1390 so you havent seen the full video... right? 'SM's minion' .... theres 1 white car/van where the members are and then there's another white car which he mistakes for the first white car like he said.
@Pretzel I saw the thread it clearly shows Jeno in a black vehicle waving his hand if you aren’t colorblind mobile.twitter.com/sueetchenle/status/1156927085333471232 so it’s black car not white one
*thank you for this but I still think SM are🐍*
dO yoU kNoW AnNyEonGhaSeyO agreed periodt
Hi again :)
It’s in their name Snakey SM, and the ceo lee snakey soo man
Jaehyuns Dimples HAHAHAHAH My friend called him Sinophobic Man
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I still don't trust them. It may be false information but i still have an eye on SM Ent.
call me crazy but I don't believe the airpod story. I want to so. so. bad. but for some reason something in me isn't letting me believe it.
Same
Especially cause this all happened AFTER we all mass unsubscribed. I realize that I could be completely wrong but something about this whole thing is very fishy.
Same, especially because even if it is true, he still had to go back alone, in the middle of the rain, with no umbrella and no security
@@nenosuns Exactly like the staff knew that there were fans around them why the heck would they let him go back to "get his AirPods" by HIMSELF in the first place?
Sameee
why do i feel that they made him say that it was a misunderstanding, im probably a bit too paranoid but i hope thats not how it is. that being said, no one even bothered to escort him as he went out, knowing fans may approach him at any time.
I agree. This is too sketchy
Gaia yeah and what about the other times they cursed at him and told him he couldn’t mention WinWin? it’s all adding up. If they never cursed at him and did all that we wouldn’t even have thought much about this rain car incident. It’s just too much occurrences to just be a “misunderstanding”
mobile.twitter.com/sueetchenle/status/1156920292582682630
@no name thank you
Hmm idk what to believe. On one hand, I believe that it's easy for us NCTZENS to overreact because we care so much for the members, but at the same time I wouldn't doubt that SM would tell Renjun to say that to save themselves.
Priscila I agree just looking at the history of how Chinese idols in SM were treated from Han Geng to Kris Tao Luhan and now Renjun and WinWin people lie actions don’t
Tobes Dan Exactly. I want to believe him, but considering what has happened before he could just be telling us what he was told to say. However, I guess we have to see where this goes 🤷🏾♀️
DON'T DELETE IT! You took a stance against what you thought was mistreatment at that time and it gained traction. Personally even if not everything is accurate I think the video should stay up as a reminder to sm and nctzens that we won't be taking mistreatment lightly and what happens when they do that fuckshit. It's a form of accountability imo
one day after media announce sm is broke and that sm has to shut down many buildings including artium and coex: renjun gets a solo radio show, we get a vlive with him in center and him explaining the whole manager situation even though no one asked for it, it’s obvious the vlive was just to clear sm’s image and they tried to make it look natural with having 3 other members while we know well that there are at least 10 sm staff behind every vlive directing what they should say, nothing he said justified him being out in contaminated rain running around without a umbrella nor staff. the truth is that sm is broke and that they will do the most to clear their image, and the sad thing is that fans are believing this, put 1+1 and you’ll see
hjs nctzens will really believe anything to keep up the illusion that everything is alright and perfect... nothing is alright with this company and nothing has been !!!
hjs i’m sorry but the airpods... why would he go out w/o his bag or umbrella to find airpods in a car park only to stand there looking lost and hurt,, then ringing someone 💀 sm really tried it but come on that video didn't look anything like someone who was looking for their airpods
omg glad i'm not the only one that feels like this. i feel the timing of the vlive is weird (usually it's not that late and done after some schedule, cmiiw) and it's aired the same day SM announce renjun would be radio dj? idk it feels like SM plans that day to be clarification day or something, esp after SM gone broke like you said.
Renjun always got us with the misunderstanding lol
remember the 'crying incident cuz of Mark last with Dreams' but actually it's just his nose bleeding on stage LMAO
Haahans I wasn’t sure if I should believe the AirPods story but now that you said that, I think I should cuz he apparently likes making us look like clowns 😂
But what if sm told Renjun to lie about the AirPods? He doesn‘t really look like he‘s searching/ looking for/ missing something in the video..
twitter.com/sueetchenle/status/1156920292582682630?s=09 read it pleasee
I can’t believe everyone got so worked up about Renjun’s AirPods
Plot twist: SM or the managers made them say it. They made a story up to just calm us down. (I think xD)
but I ain't subscribing again to sm
Same jaja
Exactly 😂
Same
hell no
Same
Hmm, I'm glad he cleared this up but he was still by himself and vulnerable.
EXACTLY, that's what i've been saying
Still calling bs on sm. Like after all their stocks go down they now decide for Renjun to start speaking and I heard he even said that the managers and idols were like brothers and sister?? I THINK NOT. Also dissapointed that sm gained 2,000+ subscribers in a night like does anyone not think this is kinda sketchy??
I think it's sketch but only time will tell, on the bright side, look how much power we all have and the impact we have, SM is scared
All we can do now is trust Renjun. Just think about how we gathered enough power to have influence on SM and do something at least. Until we have something definitive, just focus on sending love :)
They probably bought subscribers...
@ˀˀ koko yep, there are new fans, and remember smtown is not only NCT - there's many other groups in there too.
@@bangtanimosity8564 *SuUUbBoOtt*
renjun breathe if they told you to say that
Hahaha
I mean, at the end of the day we were just being mom stans and looking out for out kids. They, and the rest of NCT, deserve to be treated with respect. The lead up to the car incident was already tense with all the vlive stuff, and the other false crap that was made up and ugly rumors going around (the YuJae thing, the Jeno thing, Haechan's comment, etc etc). By the time Renjun's thing happened, his past mistreatment and the new stuff just blew up.
What we;ve learned was TO FIRST WAIT FOR FULL FACT before attacking. We believed a manager was yelling at YuJae, and it was a lie. We believed Jeno was being sexually harassed, which is likely not true. We just jump on the bandwagon, and our emotions and protectiveness takes over.
Dont feel bad about your reaction. We were just genuinely worried.
YES THIS
Whatever the situation was, SM is still at fault for letting him go back alone in the rain with no umbrella and no security, this damage control is nothing, we were not overreacting for nothing
@@nenosuns I agree
@@nenosuns According to the vlive the managers usually get stuff back that they forgot but they always feel bad about it, so he it was his own decision to get it himself. He probably went without an umbrella because he thought it will be quick. (And most likely he also was in a car parking lot fans could not get in.)
Also, read this: twitter.com/dreamyrose12/status/1156274203680788480
twitter.com/sueetchenle/status/1156920292582682630
Even if people dislike SM, how is it okay to accuse the manager (poor girl) who probably didn’t even do anything wrong of harsh things like touching Jeno inappropriately or her stealing Renjuns seat (when she was probably the driver) without any solid proof?
(Also for the vlives there is also no proof that the manager was the one who said all those things)
I HOPE this was a misunderstanding, but how am I supposed to believe that they didn't like force him to tweet that, after I have seen how else they have mistreated him and other Chinese idols. Idk what I want to believe exactly
Edit: or it was on vlive cuz that matters apparently
[TeletubsCock ] mobile.twitter.com/sueetchenle/status/1156920292582682630
what tweet lmao he said it on vlive
@@diormilk9977 vlive then damn idk some comment said tweet so I went with it
ok but what if they were told to say this and clear everything up? 👁
thank you for clearing up and aknowledging your mistake, it is very mature and educated :)
Renjuns smile is cute in the thumbnail
wow i'm glad it's not what it looked like but i still scream inside bc of seeing their scared faces during different vlive's ://
i hate how controlled they are, it's like the managers are still treating them like a rookie group. it's not only rude towards the members but it also makes it difficult for new fans to see their true personalities. i'm also tired of their favoritism...
ALSO, ISTG IF THEY MADE ALL OF THIS UP AS AN EXCUSE IMMA FIGHT SM
Tbh, i don't believe it, it looks like something SM would do to damage control after that, making him say an excuse like that while they're still at fault for letting him go back alone in the rain with no umbrella and no security
I hope they(SM) also explain the reason behind not letting Renjun speak of Winwin.
*Thank God it turn out to be something not serious*
But it's just cause Zens think about them a lot and so they mistake things not only bc of SM's history but Zens love for our babies
This seems really sketchy to me honestly like the managers/SM are just forcing him to say this just so all of the efforts the fans have given to show their care and compassion are just erased and the company can get all of their money back again. For this situation, sure what Renjun said might have a level of truth in it, but it still doesn’t justify how Renjun was told to shut up, to move out of the way, and to never mention Winwin’s name ever again. I don’t know bruh, but SM is known to be a snake 🤷♀️
That still doesn’t change the way they treat them !
It’s a relief that these things didn’t really happen.It’s too bad though that renjun is still being treated badly in some ways. SM are still losing subs quickly
I feel a little more happy
But still a little worried...😳
Dont remove it! Even if the renjun car incident wasnt exactly what we thought it was, that doesnt dismiss everything else that happened 😫
but I am still not following SM back until I actually see renjun happy and winwin back in nct127
One thing I'm thankful about learning in journalism is that "get all your facts right before publishing a story because it could get you into some serious trouble and can ruin the other sides life permanently , whether the story is true or not"
Nice one genius 👌
Ok but where are the justifications for those vlives???
There aren't. Those are pretty hard to misunderstand - leaving us with either "there is one manager who is mistreating members and not doing their job properly" or "nct managers in general mistreat members and are rude to the china line".
Zoe Szinek yep. they have a lot of managers and staffs, we really have no idea which one is good and which one is bad. i’ve seen pictures of nct members hugging some managers in airports so im sure that not /all/ the managers are bad
i appreciate you being mature and admitting you jumped to conclusions!!! a lot of people do this and it honestly shouldnt be ignored. because imagine if she lost her job for nothing? that would ruin her life and i like to think about the other side. thank you again for mak a video to explain ♡♡♡
thank you for clearing the misunderstanding, but still, that doesn’t completely clear that sm treats their chinese idols differently than the others. 😃😃
It doesn't matter that he was the one "at fault", she still lacked when she left him to go back alone in the rain with no coat, no umbrella and no security while she was safe and warm in the car. Is not her that could be attacked by a sasaeng or something like this, it's him, it's still her job to protect them and put their safety first, what she didn't
i honestly still find it hard to believe what renjun said was actually true but i honestly hope it is and that it was all a misunderstanding but it still doesnt change the fact that sm treats there foreign idols like shit
so glad to find ppl like you who don’t deny it if they did a mistake and I’m really glad some of the info wasn’t true but I hope sm treats their idols better than this
thank you for this video!!
Tbh I still don't know how to feel about this
I want to believe what renjun just said but I still kind of feel like sm just made him say that
But for now let's just trust what renjun said and hope nothing like this ever happens to him or any other member
The s in sm stands for snake 🍵
Oh God, that video of Renjun in the rain has seriously popped up in my head several times a day and I've felt so horrible and helpless about it. It felt like such a heartbreaking situation and I couldn't help but try to imagine what it would feel like for him in that moment, making myself feel even worse about it in the progress. You have no idea how relieved I am to hear it wasn't true. Like I literally let out the deepest sigh of relief and could feel my shoulders relax. Of course, there's everything else, and SM is still shit, but that was just torturing me honestly...
Omg yess 2 likes no views
Renjun is so silly 😝!!!!!!!lets just pray nothing like the rumours will actually happen
Thank you for being so fast to clear things up! I definitely felt like a clown bc the entire fandom exploded over that situation even though the original vid of renjun had crucial footage cut out of it but I'm just glad he's okay. I do think he's telling the truth bc fandoms have a tendency to point fingers and jump to conclusions crazy fast but also I cant help but notice how nct are ALWAYS looking behind the camera at their managers during vlives and I haven't noticed that with any other group but who knows :\\ I can only hope the group as a whole isn't hurt with this whole sm financial situation
im so glad this is a big misunderstanding but i hope sm knows we still hate them lmao
I’m so happy that we were wrong about some of the information we love you renjun and jeno❤️
the thing is the whole thing that he said could’ve been fake and sm wanted to ‘clear’ things up to make their entertainment look ‘better’ so right now i don’t know who to believe. we all know sm is a bad entertainment and treats their artists horribly. this is most likely an excuse that they made renjun assure the fans so they don’t lose money or attention.
haley i agree 100%
awh it’s actually really nice of you to apologize, but it’s okay! we all make mistakes :3 thank you for posting this it explains everything
For everyone saying that it's fake: before Renjun's statement, the original fan who filmed the video came out and explained the video (without the cuts), and it aligns with Renjun's story perfectly. Keep supporting Renjun and the other members, and make sure to fact check everything you read or see!
Do you know who did the cuts - was this the original fan herself ?
@@nearby4539 I don't know, with the speed of the internet it's hard to pin down a single person who uploaded it first.
Renjun clarification :
"Finding his airpods"
Me : play the video over and over
My brain : hold my logic.
Idk if what Renjun said is truth, it seems really sketchy like if someone told him to tell that.
Just think,renjun has already gone to the first place where the first car parked at there but there was not....And if Renjun is standing beside the real car the manager can ask him to sit in the car...
It doesn't sound real to me...more like he was forced to tell this story
In my opinion, SM might have forced RENJUN to say that because they probably wanted to clear their image
Agree, he looked pretty stressed and upset in the footage.
This reminds me of the Taeyong incident where he apologized for doing NOTHING just to save SM's image.
Hey raise their hands anyone who thinks that they forced our baby renjun to say that as an excuse to not look bad ...hmmm ... hun I don’t think u can change the look on renjuns pretty face ,u can definitely see that it wasn’t because of AirPods ... renjun fightingggg 💪🏼💪🏼🥺🥺💜💜
The s in sm ent stands for sinophobia
I def wanna support members and protect them but I hope ppl hear what you said about misinformation, it can spread quickly and hurt innocent ppl so I hope nctzens can be more careful about what they believe. There are many ppl who work in SM, there can be many genuinely caring ppl (as I’ve seen) and there may be problematic ppl too but it’s important to remember that SM is not one big evil person. They’re a company and have so many diff types of workers and I think some of them are unfairly thrown under the bus in the heat of the moment.
(However there are things that ARE a problem and I hope they address those issues and most importantly I hope the members are happy and well taken care of)
Oh well, It's still SM... We just have to be the smart ones
I'm glad he that these things have been cleared up, now we see that this is how loud we have to be to get noticed by sm.
Renjun I love you. But I don’t believe you
I'm so happy to see this! Like for real, I've always know there are fishy things in the kpop industry, specially when it comes to sm and chinese idols (sm, we still have to talk about Winwin and WayV), and rude managers, but yesterday when I found out about this whole issue (I'm not a dream stan) I was so depressed.
The one dislike is from SM
also, the first video helped me to understand better what happened to SUJU and EXO's ex members and other stuff, I'm glad you made that even if there was some wrong information abt nct's situation, thank you!
I know it is late but I can tell you what I know about SUJU, they are the first Korean boy group with foreign member (China) and during their debut the entertainment regulations about foreigners is still uncleared. As far as I know, foreigners are only allowed no more than 3 public broadcast and there were visa issue that prevent hangeng to appear in promotions
@@riangus4620 don't worry, thanks for the help!
I think a lot of people are kinda embarrassed now because they took everything out of proportion and they have to admit that it was a fansite who said these stuff and that the comment was translated wrong. I kept on telling people that how is jeno
Uncomfortable with that manager when he looked like he was mad close with her. I believe that not every manager is the same. I did believe that whoever did tell him to be quite was rude
I love that you can admit when you've made a mistake, that's really admirable
That's so weird to me
Sounds like an excuse the manager told him to tell us
Idk i just don't believe it
I understand that sm doesn't want everyone to think bad about the manager and the company so they thought of an excuse like that
All I can think about now is
WHAT HAVE WE DONE
BOY FORGOT HIS AIRPODS AND THEN WE ALL WENT CRAZY THINKIN OTHER STUFF 😭😭😂
That's how scary internet and our mind that making up the stories and tell it to ourselves😭😭
And thank YOU for clarifying everything ^-^!
Also heh the fact that Jeno said there were only 18 members and 3 subunits on the talk show??? Like tf??
Do you have a link?
Živa xx I saw it on Instagram but I think it was on a talk show that dream was on
im happy that you made this follow up video . i know that a lot of other ppl in your place would've just ignored the misinformation or gotten defensive about it. You owned up to accidentally spreading misinformation and i wish there were more ppl like you and I hope you have a great day
See?
The lesson is *be thoughtful before you act*
This "nct-manager case" have surfaced before, fans outraged with their managers and it turned out that the managers only doing their job and the members even teased them a lot. They're comfortable with each other
It's good if you want to protect your fav idols, but pls don't be immature selfish and unthoughtful fans, and here the evidence that we were easily triggered by a few seconds video (that you can't even hear their voices and then you created your own story for it). *Just remember there's a lot of perspectives in one scene*
Let's be a healthy fandom okay?
Very well said, your comment such a gold in this comment section
Let's spread positivity and being healthy fans
i lov u, don't worry abt the wrong information, everybody who actually cares about the boys like u could believe in that. Thank you for all this video, was very helpful.
I still feel like this is a whole lie, just my option :/
alright sm we are not stupid
I just hope he's fine...
Smells 🐟🐟
I love how I went on vlive and saw it and went youtube to search a translated version and this was the first thing that was recommended to me hahah
And if this isn´t the truth? If they forced to say that? Weare not sure about it, because all who stans EXO and SUJU know what happen to the chinese members.
And it´s too sad to know how the entertainment is
thank you for sharing and explaining even though i already knew it was a misunderstanding!
I seriously think the manager told him to post the tweet so this drama could stop
Yeah, but still RJ shouldn't has gone to found his airpods alone, someone from staff MUST have gone with him too.
don't take the video down cos goddamitttt let them get exposed ffs
I do hate sm, but I don't like when something like this happens and then we all dramatize the whole situation and make a bunch of assumptions.
But, we can never be sure that it's the truth, we know that sm treats their idols like shit.
Thank you for clearing this up though.
Yall smell that ? I smell an excuse to cover something up but okayyyyy SM okayyyyyyy
I said it from the beginning that we didn't knew what actually happened, but good that you made this video. People are fast to judge these days.
Even though it was a misunderstanding ,sm still doesn't treat the nct members properly
I am still unsubscribed to sm and I will still be
my heart feels lighter now omg, thank you so much for this!! i was sososo worried for our baby, your video really made me feel a lot better
So guys, are u saying that u rather believe that baseless rumour on twitter than believing renjun himself?
Even some people on twitter write a long thread explaining the situation BASED on tweet that was posted BY the one who RECORD that video..
She/he said we should stop cursing at the staff, and maybe it's getting out of hand that Renjun thinks that he has to clear this up himself..
The staff has did wrong things,yes..
But the rain incident was not one of it..
I'm so glad that Dream wasn't being mistreated in this situation, though this doesn't take away from the many occasions where Chinese members including Renjun have been mistreated, this seems like a win today.
the fact that some people still think that *_sm scripted for renjun to cover up the truth_*
eye- 😂😅
I mean, it's not like they wouldn't do something like that, SM is still a snake and the manager is still at fault, no matter what the situation was
Sehun Min but, haechan said even before that, the dreamies are always forget to bring their airpods because it’s too small..so their managers are the one that always help to find their airpods..so at that time it was raining so renjun felt sorry towards the manager so he said he wanted to get that airpods by himself..
You can watch their recent vlive
I still think that SM forced him to say all that, I don't know. I'm not convinced yet. He looked pretty worried, but about AirPods?