@@theartshole311 either way, watched it and enjoyed it, great content mate! keep up the good work :) and don't bother with likes or subscribers, knowledge is the importance and the one that ultimatially stands the test of time, so keep creating :=
Honestly now, this is fantastic. I've watched 2 or 3 now. For someone like myself that's been music music music, the analytical edge to these videos are just great. Thank you 👍🏻✊🏻
Commenting because RUclips rewards that for creators and i believe you deserve a lot of support! Thank you for the good detailed work. I can sense the time and effort put into each video, thank you!!
Your videos crack me up!! I find myself rewinding because I usually only pay half attention to any art history blurbs besides Waldemar. :) Love the accent, makes me yearn to go back to Ireland, even though I kept thinking you were calling some dude named Jeremy, instead of Germany! :) Love it!!
Came across your videos last week, watched them all...and now I'm sad and I want more!! :p Thanks for uploading these, they were so calming and informative to listen to while painting.
Finally back with a look at Edvard Munch and his enormous catalogue of works. Sorry it's been a while! Had a bit of work on that kept me busy and was delayed even further by a very unusual heat wave here in Ireland that nearly melted both me and my poor computer. We're back on what I euphemistically call a schedule now though, so expect more videos coming soon. Any questions comments feedback etc please do let me know, all are greatly appreciated, and if you want to go the extra mile and support what we do here you can help keep the lights on over at www.buymeacoffee.com/theartshole. Donations help me purchase books for research and replace the one by one failing parts on the ship of Theseus that is my PC. Thanks to everyone for watching, hope your all doing well and will see you again soon!
Wouldn't call myself an expert but I am a huge fan of Nietzsche, I would say you did a relatively solid job in representing the basics of the Dionysian and Apollonian duality. Though one side note, Nietzsche himself was actually a professor of the Classics as a young man which went on to influence the themes of a lot of his writing, including the Birth of Tragedy. Great video as always!
That's good to hear, relieved I wasn't to far off! I like a bit of Nietzsche too but as I said I'm by no means an expert on the chap. Think I'd better brush up though, he'll no doubt be coming up again.
Thanks! we might have more if I actually publicized the channel or released videos more frequently I guess, but I'm quite amazed (and appreciative) of the amount we have regardless
@@theartshole311 yes ofcourse it's still a verry good amount. Probably more than you would have expected starting a RUclips channel. There are just not enough quality art channels like yours IMO
Great stuff. Thanks for your research and insight. Nice to be acquainted with such genius in these dystopian times. For viewers of this channel I would also recommend Waldemar J. on Perspective.
'Spring Evening on Karl Johan Street' reminds me of T.S. Eliot's lines from his poem The Wasteland, from a section titled The Burial of the Dead: "A crowd flowed over London Bridge, so many, I had not thought death had undone so many." - although Eliot's work was created in the aftermath of the First World War, in 1921-22, exactly 3 decades after Munch's painting... Which, I think, illustrates how the essentially Modernist anxities, that became the zeitgeist in the first few decades of the 20th Century, had their genesis in the social, political, technological, and overall ontological changes that started in the last couple of decades of the 19th century.
Great connection there, I really love that particular image(and that poem as well!). To me it feels prescient of the kind of city lives we lead now and the crowds of faces we move thorough. Amazing how even well before such changes really took hold or were articulated by later works they are already present in works from decades earlier, all those modernist anxieties are on display in plenty of modern art. Going to look at this element more in upcoming videos, find it absolutely fascinating
@@theartshole311 French poet Baudlaire's collection of poems The Flowers of Evil was a major influence on Eliot, and he makes allusions to the collection in The Wasteland. Baudlaire's poems were composed around the 1850s till his death, sometime in the 1860s. It was a major influence on Eliot specifically, and Modernism in general, exploring erstwhile taboo themes and using unconventional styles and symbols. I myself don't know much about the Baudlaire's poems, coz I have not studied French literature, I only know the little bit in reference to Eliot. But since we are doing so much about eroticism and death and breaking from tradition, I think I'l look into some translations of the major poems. Will post if I find connectins to art.
Baudelaire is pretty influential alright, he was mates with Manet and a supporter of a lot of French modern painters around that time, I've even seen him referenced in multiple contemporary art shows so he's still relevant even now. I must admit I haven't read much of his poetry, but he pops up again and again in reading about the art of the era, TJ Clark's The Absolute Bourgeois has some good stuff about him in it if memory serves, been a long time since I read it! Do let me know if you come across anything interesting
The trauma of death, of decay-illness-suffering in Munch's paintings, the harrowing fear - the angst of existence and mortality as central theme - seem more unaffected, and hence for me personally more profound, here in Munch's works like Death in the Sickroom, The Child and Death, Scream, At the Deathbed, than in Shiele's self portraits, which, upon repeated viewing, and when studied in reference to the corresponding photographs he posed for, give away the artist's posturing, & once u notice it u can't un-notice it again.
Munch's got the painting of death down alright, he really does nail that atmosphere in such a chilling fashion. Schiele by contrast I find similarly postured and even a little artificial, but I always think of how young he was, practically a child when he painted many of his well known ones. I wonder what he would have created had he lived a bit longer
Great videos! Im wishing you wont ever lose your interest and devoutness i hope that positive feedback is helping and if there are negatives without being constructive just fuckem theyr loosers
Thanks! I'll definitely keep it up. Vast majority of feedback is very positive, and there's very little negativity in general so that is pretty encouraging
Munch's most prolific decade seems to be the 1890s, most of his major works seem to be done in that decade. In that sense he seems to be somewhat a predessesor to Klimt and Schiele, as the major works of both belong to the 1900s & 1910s. Am I right? ... Munch, seems to have been interested in landscape, or just the outdoor world, in the 1900s, coz the few pieces I can find belonging to the 1900s are mostly outdoor landscapes, with or without human figures - Summer Night by the Beach, Shore with Red House, Train Smoke (I really like these three), Girls on the Bridge and Ladies on the Bridge and similarly titled stuff. Is this when he moved to Asgardstrand? In the 1910s onwards he seems to have painted regular life scenes with lots of people: workers, pedestrians, people about town. Is this when he did the works commissioned by the uncommonly empathetic factory owner? Colours are much brighter, compositions more open - not that I didn't love the dark clostrophobic canvases of his 1890s stuff. You have mentioned about WWII and the Nazis, but not much about WWI and its effect on him, expect that he suffered from the Spanish flu. I'l view the video again of course, coz a single watch is never sufficient to take in everything. But I'm interested in the First WW's effect, bcoz, somehow, in terms of history of art and what influenced the artists and what shaped the kind of work they did, one gets to know a lot about the industrialisation, urbanisation, technology, machanisation, alienation stuff that started in the 19th century, and then one hears about the inter-war years and their politics, but not much about World War I.
The 1890's are definitely his most prolific years, these are by and large the dark moody ones everyone knows. The works from the next decade with the brighter colours and nature scenes are often depictions of Asgardstrand, he later moved there permanently but he often spent his summers there during the 1890's/1900's, he loved the place and a lot of his more colorful works reflect that (Train Smoke is a favorite of mine too!). Those scenes of daily life, workers and farming do become the vast majority of his works after his self imposed exile, he worked with what he had both within and around him and that leads to those brighter bigger compositions, pretty stark contrast to the 1890's stuff. Hes' definitely a huge influence on Klimt and Schiele, his works influence practically everyone, though its more evident in the early Expressionist stuff than the Art Nouveau secessionist style. Kokoschka mentions him directly as a great influence as do a lot of Expressionists so I figured now's a good time to look at him before we get more into that period. As for WW1 , your right, I didn't find too much about his reaction to it, Norway remained (more or less) neutral and things kicked off after his breakdown so he may have been disinclined to comment on world affairs by that stage(though I may have just missed it! He has a tremendous amount of work). I think we'll have to take a look specifically at WW1 and its effects on art, a lot of the artists we'll be looking at next either fought in the trenches or were indirectly traumatized by it in other ways. It definitely doesn't get enough attention, think the less clear cut nature of the conflict and its causes perhaps discourages analysis since its so hard to identify exactly what was going on
@@theartshole311 Would be great if you look into World War I & its impact in art. In English literature there is a small but very rich and brilliant ouvre of "trench poetry" from WWI by poets who served - Wilfred Owen, Sigfried Sassoon, Isaac Rosenberg - all of whom died during the war except Sassoon. You may have read some. It was a huge brrak from how war has been traditionally portrayed in literature and culture, as something heroic and noble as through the lens of nationalism, patriotism, courage, etc. Do check out Owen's Dulce Et Decorum Est, Spring Offensive and Rosenberg's Dead Man's Dump, Break of Day in the Trenches.
Thanks for the suggestions I will definitely check those out, I think we will have to do something specifically about WW1 and its impact on the arts, that's probably the real breaking point, very hard to be patriotic or idealistic in art after that. I'm finally just about done with the Kokoschka video(more delays as always!), he fought in the Austrian cavalry and it definitely impacted him so we'll touch on it a bit more next time
An Irishman's take on art, meaning a humorous, 'Dubliners' take. With stories of a vicious dog that made me piss myself laughing when Edvard rendered the hilarious animal in paint... More, more!!
Where is the bohemian scene today?? I'm pretty sure it's only something that is amassed from the detritus of information decades after an event, and can only be seen when looking backwards, but I look out my window, I move to a new place and look out that window - zero bohemian. Not a fucking one. No one wants to start a bohemian art movement and no one I know has a gallery in which to exhibit and say we are artists. I just have a room full of things I've made that no one looks at. It seems that the world is just a load of people trying to get through it and get back to some level of childhood happiness, then decades after we go, people tidy the memories of ones that were able to do things into manageable piles.
De dechets et du sang... ...brulant... ...tus.... Of offal and of the blood... ...burning... ...still.... it is free with kindle unlimited it is a collection of English/French poems and short stories hope you like something if you read Here is one of the poems it is a poetic interpretation of head of a dead young man painting by theodore gericault Head of a dead young man Beneath a canvas coarse and crass, the head of a young man upon a cushion soft and of care; feminine chin; upon the lower lip the blood of God; fine nose; hair of an infant here...and...down there; upon his front, the sublime illumination, that descends, intimately as though of ivory flame.... ...when, of lavender and of rose, ascending vaguely towards the exegetic darkness, the offal; disclosed thus, profound and grave, an immense lesion, as though of a dolourous ulcer...from where all comes...where all returns....
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"From my rotting body, flowers shall grow, and I am in them, and that is eternity" -Edvard Munch
This series is class you deserve more attention
Cheers!
This doesn't get any better...you are a skilled wordsmith!!!
my favourite youtube channel talking about my favourite artist
Thanks! He's one of my favorites too
Your sensitive introspection on the aging Munch and his isolation make me weep.
Not usually good to make someone weep, but glad to hear that, I felt for him too doing the research, he certainly had a hard old time of it
Saving this video as a treat to myself when I get off work tomorrow! Thank you, your uploads are always favorites of mine. ❤️🙏
Thanks, glad to hear you enjoy them!
Absolutely fascinating presentation!
I just thought yesterday about when the next video will hit the screen and here it is, marvelous!
That's some coincidence! Was actually supposed to be up yesterday too, just got delayed with some uploading errors
@@theartshole311 either way, watched it and enjoyed it, great content mate! keep up the good work :) and don't bother with likes or subscribers, knowledge is the importance and the one that ultimatially stands the test of time, so keep creating :=
Ah sure that's it, people seem to like them and get some use out of it, which is what it's for at the end of the day.
So happy to have a new episode to watch.
Glad to hear that hope you like it!
Top notch job! Your analysis is intriguing.
Thx for this. Amazing production
Oh my God, I adore this... This became a comfort video for me.
The best video of my favorite painter I have seen ! Thank you for the great work. I really love your videos
Thank you, glad to hear it!
Honestly now, this is fantastic. I've watched 2 or 3 now. For someone like myself that's been music music music, the analytical edge to these videos are just great. Thank you 👍🏻✊🏻
Cheers! More coming soon!
You do the good work. Was waiting for this. Can’t wait for next one. Excellence
Cheers, more coming soon!
Magnificent video, as it's always the case with you :)
Thanks a million Momcilo!
Excellent video.
Thank you very much!
Brilliantly informative and clear as well as a witty, warm commentary. Thank you- !I found this quite inspiring and I want to see more!!
Informitive, honest and straight forward. Well done sir
Cheers!
Commenting because RUclips rewards that for creators and i believe you deserve a lot of support!
Thank you for the good detailed work. I can sense the time and effort put into each video, thank you!!
Thanks, comments do help so far as I'm aware so I appreciate that!
Your videos crack me up!! I find myself rewinding because I usually only pay half attention to any art history blurbs besides Waldemar. :) Love the accent, makes me yearn to go back to Ireland, even though I kept thinking you were calling some dude named Jeremy, instead of Germany! :) Love it!!
Thanks!
love your videos! thank you!
Excellent video. Still water runs deep is the correct way to describe Edvard Munch!
Cheers! Still waters indeed, there's so much to him and his works, He's a real modern master
Thank you !
You're welcome!
Another great video👍👍
Cheers, glad you enjoyed it!
Came across your videos last week, watched them all...and now I'm sad and I want more!! :p Thanks for uploading these, they were so calming and informative to listen to while painting.
Cheers! Delighted to hear that, I'll have more coming soon!
Fantastic vid! ❤️
Thank you!
Finally back with a look at Edvard Munch and his enormous catalogue of works. Sorry it's been a while! Had a bit of work on that kept me busy and was delayed even further by a very unusual heat wave here in Ireland that nearly melted both me and my poor computer. We're back on what I euphemistically call a schedule now though, so expect more videos coming soon. Any questions comments feedback etc please do let me know, all are greatly appreciated, and if you want to go the extra mile and support what we do here you can help keep the lights on over at www.buymeacoffee.com/theartshole. Donations help me purchase books for research and replace the one by one failing parts on the ship of Theseus that is my PC. Thanks to everyone for watching, hope your all doing well and will see you again soon!
Wouldn't call myself an expert but I am a huge fan of Nietzsche, I would say you did a relatively solid job in representing the basics of the Dionysian and Apollonian duality. Though one side note, Nietzsche himself was actually a professor of the Classics as a young man which went on to influence the themes of a lot of his writing, including the Birth of Tragedy.
Great video as always!
That's good to hear, relieved I wasn't to far off! I like a bit of Nietzsche too but as I said I'm by no means an expert on the chap. Think I'd better brush up though, he'll no doubt be coming up again.
Best disclaimer I've seen! 😂
Going through exam season. Hope to see the video soon. Have been waiting eagerly for this one.
After listening back to it i thought a disclaimer might be prudent😂 best of luck with the exams!
@@theartshole311 Thanks... Loads of answer scripts to be corrected 😭
Such nice videos! Can't believe you don't have more subs..
Thanks! we might have more if I actually publicized the channel or released videos more frequently I guess, but I'm quite amazed (and appreciative) of the amount we have regardless
@@theartshole311 yes ofcourse it's still a verry good amount. Probably more than you would have expected starting a RUclips channel. There are just not enough quality art channels like yours IMO
Cheers, that's very nice of you to say, will keep it up👍
Great job !
Wow!! So interesting! I loved it! Thks from BR!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you so much!! Excellently made ... I'm off to the PAris show right now ... Musee d'Orsay Munch exhibition 👍👍
Well done sam
Great stuff. Thanks for your research and insight. Nice to be acquainted with such genius in these dystopian times. For viewers of this channel I would also recommend Waldemar J. on Perspective.
Thanks, yes do check out the Waldermar fella too, few people have recomended him
'Spring Evening on Karl Johan Street' reminds me of T.S. Eliot's lines from his poem The Wasteland, from a section titled The Burial of the Dead:
"A crowd flowed over London Bridge, so many,
I had not thought death had undone so many."
- although Eliot's work was created in the aftermath of the First World War, in 1921-22, exactly 3 decades after Munch's painting... Which, I think, illustrates how the essentially Modernist anxities, that became the zeitgeist in the first few decades of the 20th Century, had their genesis in the social, political, technological, and overall ontological changes that started in the last couple of decades of the 19th century.
Great connection there, I really love that particular image(and that poem as well!). To me it feels prescient of the kind of city lives we lead now and the crowds of faces we move thorough. Amazing how even well before such changes really took hold or were articulated by later works they are already present in works from decades earlier, all those modernist anxieties are on display in plenty of modern art. Going to look at this element more in upcoming videos, find it absolutely fascinating
@@theartshole311 French poet Baudlaire's collection of poems The Flowers of Evil was a major influence on Eliot, and he makes allusions to the collection in The Wasteland. Baudlaire's poems were composed around the 1850s till his death, sometime in the 1860s. It was a major influence on Eliot specifically, and Modernism in general, exploring erstwhile taboo themes and using unconventional styles and symbols. I myself don't know much about the Baudlaire's poems, coz I have not studied French literature, I only know the little bit in reference to Eliot. But since we are doing so much about eroticism and death and breaking from tradition, I think I'l look into some translations of the major poems. Will post if I find connectins to art.
Baudelaire is pretty influential alright, he was mates with Manet and a supporter of a lot of French modern painters around that time, I've even seen him referenced in multiple contemporary art shows so he's still relevant even now. I must admit I haven't read much of his poetry, but he pops up again and again in reading about the art of the era, TJ Clark's The Absolute Bourgeois has some good stuff about him in it if memory serves, been a long time since I read it! Do let me know if you come across anything interesting
The trauma of death, of decay-illness-suffering in Munch's paintings, the harrowing fear - the angst of existence and mortality as central theme - seem more unaffected, and hence for me personally more profound, here in Munch's works like Death in the Sickroom, The Child and Death, Scream, At the Deathbed, than in Shiele's self portraits, which, upon repeated viewing, and when studied in reference to the corresponding photographs he posed for, give away the artist's posturing, & once u notice it u can't un-notice it again.
Munch's got the painting of death down alright, he really does nail that atmosphere in such a chilling fashion. Schiele by contrast I find similarly postured and even a little artificial, but I always think of how young he was, practically a child when he painted many of his well known ones. I wonder what he would have created had he lived a bit longer
Great videos! Im wishing you wont ever lose your interest and devoutness i hope that positive feedback is helping and if there are negatives without being constructive just fuckem theyr loosers
Thanks! I'll definitely keep it up. Vast majority of feedback is very positive, and there's very little negativity in general so that is pretty encouraging
29:45 which painting is this, one with the sun radial
Munch's most prolific decade seems to be the 1890s, most of his major works seem to be done in that decade. In that sense he seems to be somewhat a predessesor to Klimt and Schiele, as the major works of both belong to the 1900s & 1910s. Am I right? ... Munch, seems to have been interested in landscape, or just the outdoor world, in the 1900s, coz the few pieces I can find belonging to the 1900s are mostly outdoor landscapes, with or without human figures - Summer Night by the Beach, Shore with Red House, Train Smoke (I really like these three), Girls on the Bridge and Ladies on the Bridge and similarly titled stuff. Is this when he moved to Asgardstrand?
In the 1910s onwards he seems to have painted regular life scenes with lots of people: workers, pedestrians, people about town. Is this when he did the works commissioned by the uncommonly empathetic factory owner? Colours are much brighter, compositions more open - not that I didn't love the dark clostrophobic canvases of his 1890s stuff.
You have mentioned about WWII and the Nazis, but not much about WWI and its effect on him, expect that he suffered from the Spanish flu. I'l view the video again of course, coz a single watch is never sufficient to take in everything. But I'm interested in the First WW's effect, bcoz, somehow, in terms of history of art and what influenced the artists and what shaped the kind of work they did, one gets to know a lot about the industrialisation, urbanisation, technology, machanisation, alienation stuff that started in the 19th century, and then one hears about the inter-war years and their politics, but not much about World War I.
The 1890's are definitely his most prolific years, these are by and large the dark moody ones everyone knows. The works from the next decade with the brighter colours and nature scenes are often depictions of Asgardstrand, he later moved there permanently but he often spent his summers there during the 1890's/1900's, he loved the place and a lot of his more colorful works reflect that (Train Smoke is a favorite of mine too!). Those scenes of daily life, workers and farming do become the vast majority of his works after his self imposed exile, he worked with what he had both within and around him and that leads to those brighter bigger compositions, pretty stark contrast to the 1890's stuff.
Hes' definitely a huge influence on Klimt and Schiele, his works influence practically everyone, though its more evident in the early Expressionist stuff than the Art Nouveau secessionist style. Kokoschka mentions him directly as a great influence as do a lot of Expressionists so I figured now's a good time to look at him before we get more into that period.
As for WW1 , your right, I didn't find too much about his reaction to it, Norway remained (more or less) neutral and things kicked off after his breakdown so he may have been disinclined to comment on world affairs by that stage(though I may have just missed it! He has a tremendous amount of work). I think we'll have to take a look specifically at WW1 and its effects on art, a lot of the artists we'll be looking at next either fought in the trenches or were indirectly traumatized by it in other ways. It definitely doesn't get enough attention, think the less clear cut nature of the conflict and its causes perhaps discourages analysis since its so hard to identify exactly what was going on
@@theartshole311 Would be great if you look into World War I & its impact in art. In English literature there is a small but very rich and brilliant ouvre of "trench poetry" from WWI by poets who served - Wilfred Owen, Sigfried Sassoon, Isaac Rosenberg - all of whom died during the war except Sassoon. You may have read some. It was a huge brrak from how war has been traditionally portrayed in literature and culture, as something heroic and noble as through the lens of nationalism, patriotism, courage, etc.
Do check out Owen's Dulce Et Decorum Est, Spring Offensive and Rosenberg's Dead Man's Dump, Break of Day in the Trenches.
Thanks for the suggestions I will definitely check those out, I think we will have to do something specifically about WW1 and its impact on the arts, that's probably the real breaking point, very hard to be patriotic or idealistic in art after that. I'm finally just about done with the Kokoschka video(more delays as always!), he fought in the Austrian cavalry and it definitely impacted him so we'll touch on it a bit more next time
An Irishman's take on art, meaning a humorous, 'Dubliners' take. With stories of a vicious dog that made me piss myself laughing when Edvard rendered the hilarious animal in paint... More, more!!
Lol, glad you enjoyed it, I found Edvards encounters with the dog to be fairly entertaining myself
Please do Botera
Thats so cool he painted nietzsche
Where is the bohemian scene today?? I'm pretty sure it's only something that is amassed from the detritus of information decades after an event, and can only be seen when looking backwards, but I look out my window, I move to a new place and look out that window - zero bohemian. Not a fucking one. No one wants to start a bohemian art movement and no one I know has a gallery in which to exhibit and say we are artists. I just have a room full of things I've made that no one looks at. It seems that the world is just a load of people trying to get through it and get back to some level of childhood happiness, then decades after we go, people tidy the memories of ones that were able to do things into manageable piles.
so is it munch like buttmunch or munch like monk but with a U or what is it? 8(
This artists a munch
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i m fucking fan!!
L'analisi delle opere di Munch esposte a Milano secondo WebANTV ruclips.net/video/x_VyZkZGeDU/видео.html
Stanisław Przybyszewski is pronounced as "Staniswav Pshybyshevskee', 'a' and 'y' pronounced as you did,
Thank you, that is probably the single hardest name I've had to pronounce so far!
More than a billion kroner excludes this as art and for a fucking painting it means, we have to revolutionize our economical structure.
Crazy money isn't it? There's something to be said for some sort of de-financialisation of the art world at this point
Moooooonk.
Lol, that's as close as I could get, now I say it that way all the time
Did you notice that your channel name is really close to ‘The arse hole?
YOU THOUGHT I WAS FEELING YOU???
De dechets et du sang... ...brulant... ...tus.... Of offal and of the blood... ...burning... ...still.... it is free with kindle unlimited it is a collection of English/French poems and short stories hope you like something if you read
Here is one of the poems it is a poetic interpretation of head of a dead young man painting by theodore gericault
Head of a dead young man
Beneath a canvas coarse and crass, the head of a young man upon a cushion soft and of care; feminine chin; upon the lower lip the blood of God; fine nose; hair of an infant here...and...down there; upon his front, the sublime illumination, that descends, intimately as though of ivory flame.... ...when, of lavender and of rose, ascending vaguely towards the exegetic darkness, the offal; disclosed thus, profound and grave, an immense lesion, as though of a dolourous ulcer...from where all comes...where all returns....
Edvard monk lol
You are much better than the blind dweller in my opionion as you speak plainly and not all this psycho babble art talk that means nothing much.
Too bad the narrator is so bad to me like a fast machine can't listen to that