Burstbucker 2 vs Burstbucker 3 - How HOT do you want your PAF?
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2021
- I'm comparing the high output PAF replica (BB3) to the medium output PAF replica (BB2) using a 2013 Gibson SG Standard Custom Shop and a 1971 Marshall Super Bass full stack. The Burstbucker 2 measures 8.15kOhm, and the Burstbucker 3 measures 8.55kOhm.
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Thank you for the excellent demo. I have spent all morning trying to decide between the Burstbucker 2 & 3. Side note: Gibson's website says that all the Burstbuckers are unpotted. This is 2024 so maybe things have changed since in the past two years. Again, thank you.
I need a new job, how dare they schedule a zoom meeting at the same time as this?!
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Wow man, awesome hell of a powerful sound. You always have a smokin sound man no matter what you play thru!....love your channel
Thanks Michael, great to hear that!
Great playing and comparison as always!! Loooove that riff at 2:59 so much too!
very nice demo, Johan, great riffs and of course I love the 71 Super Bass, I have a 2008 R8 plain top and it has a BB2 in the neck and a BB 3 in the bridge. I've had a lot of people try to convince me to change them, but I love them! They sound a little brighter in the SG than my R8, since the SG is a brighter sounding guitar anyway. Stay safe, thanks for sharing
Thanks Mark! Glad you like it!
Hello Johan, these are the descriptions in the Gibson website about Burstbuckers 1,2 and 3, seems they are in the same range but only slightly different winding and output:
The BurstBucker™ line of pickups represents Gibson's drive to recapture the magic of the original "Patent Applied For" humbuckers. First introduced in the early 1990s, the Gibson BurstBucker™ - Types 1, 2, and 3 - successfully captured the subtle variations of true, classic humbucker tone with historically "unmatched" bobbin windings and Alnico II magnets. They produce an airy, full tone, and when overdriven they achieve a magical distortion with the slightly enhanced highs that made the originals famous.
BurstBucker™ Type 1 features a lower output, excellent for the neck position. BurstBucker™ Type 2 features medium output, and is perfect for both positions. BurstBucker™ Type 3 is overwound and hot, which is typically ideal for the bridge position. None of the BurstBuckers™ are wax potted, and all feature vintage braided two-conductor wiring."
Hi Vincenzo! Thanks for the info!
Hi Vincenzo! I did not know they came out in the early 90s! My understanding was at first they only came on Custom Shop models, then they got put into some Standards in the 2000s. By 2014 the lowly LPJ model came stock with “Burstbucker Zebra 61” pickups, and Burstbuckers of some sort were in various Gibson models. They all seem to have different winding imbalances and magnet types.
@@EdwardT9 hello Edward, the discrepancy about thair specs is due to the fact that only the Burstbuckers 1,2, and 3 have those original specs from the beginning, the Burstbucker Pro for instance ha alnico V magnets and different setup, not to mention the particular specs on determinate les Paul models out of the factory
@@JohanSegeborn my pleasure Johan!
Man, pickups aside, every video reminds me that I just want a pulsonic cone full stack
Great video as usual. I love all your comparisons they are very entertaining and intuitive. I have always thought the Burstbuckers were a little harsh sounding. The Custombuckers are in my opinion the best pickups Gibson currently makes.
Thanks Chris! I’m not sure whether the CB is a specified pickup or if it’s different depending on which guitar Gibson puts them in. Maybe you have some info on that?
@@JohanSegeborn Thanks for the reply. I bought a 60th anniversary 59 Gibson Les Paul last year that came with the alnico 3 custombucker pups. I was ready to replace them with aftermarket Seymour Duncans until I plugged it in. They were perfect. I have heard that they are inconsistent, but the ones that came in my guitar were heavenly. I spent 6k on the guitar which was a first for me but it was worth every penny.
I was recently wondering if I should put a burstbucker3 on the front, so I'm looking forward to your video.
The burstbucker 3 seemed a bit hotter to me. Loved the perfect touch of feedback you got there at 5:52.
Because it is hotter
Thanks for this comparison I have been waiting for somone to do this comparison for a long time. I love the bursticket 3 . I have it in 4 different guitars. 2 les pauls and 2 explorers and it makes an amazing explorer bridge pickup. It gives the explorer a very unique tone . The BB3 is a very unique sounding pickup. Its brighter than the BB2 yet somehow warmer at the same time .
Great comparison - thank you! I’m struggling with an R9 bridge decision and this side by side helped.
I just came across a set of 1985 Shaw’s and put them into my R9. One read 7.64k, the other 7.68k, neither had been ever opened. After fiddling with height adjustment, decided the bridge didnt have enough ‘oomph’, but the neck is glorious and will never come out. had a BB3 on the sidelines and had only tried it years ago. Swapped out the A2 magnet for an A4 (as I usually dont like a2 squishy bridges) and installed into the R9. Result is really pretty good, if not a tad bright in the bridge (running tone pot around 4.5 with a k40y9 .022). have a BB1&2 and a set of BBPro’s on the sideline that I can play with. Am thinking the A2 might reduce the top sizzle I don’t love. Option #2 is to install the BB2 in the bridge with the same A4 magnet and see where I am. My Bb2 is 8.02k@70*.
You are correct in your introduction about which are wax potted and which are not. I have a 2009 SG Standard that shipped a factory Burstbucker 1 and 3 set. I asked Gibson this very question and their reply was that factory-installed Burstbuckers are wax potted while the retail "Gibson Gear" (now called the Gibson Pickup Shop) pickups are not wax potted. I'm not sure if this also applies to Burstbuckers installed from the Gibson Custom Shop as my SG is Gibson USA. Thanks for all you do, Johan.
Thx , got a Les Paul with the Zebras . Haven’t played yet . Thank you for your video
Interesting! My Epiphone Les Paul came with the 57 classic pickups, with the standard 57 classic in the neck position, and 57 classic plus in the bridge. These pickups have similar output levels as the burstbuckers in the video. They're very classic sounding, especially when I use it with the plexi model on my Pod GO
The main difference is that the Burstbuckers have uneven coil windings and are, by design, less consistent. BB1's can be 7.7-8k, BB2's can be 8-8.4k and BB3's can be 8.6-9k. The 57's were kind of like ideal Seth Lover prototypes without the inaccuracies of factory production. The BB's simulate what a real PAF was like and a 57 is what it was supposed to be: Even-wound coils and consistent output.
Thank you for this! I love the curious reactive quality that BB2's seem to have as you begin to increase gain...the mids & highs start to get all excited & sizzly in a unique way. I have one in the bridge position of an Ibanez AF-55...sort of a (very) poor man's Yessongs-era Steve Howe/70's Ted Nugent type thing. Anyway, it excels at those type of tones in that cheap guitar!
The potted 4 conductor burstbckers were available after market only through certain suppliers as a specialty item. The les Paul traditional pro guitars which were a guitar center/ musicians friend exclusive guitar had a 4 conductor was potted BB3 for the first 4 years of that guitars run . I have one of those trad pro les pauls but the stock pups and push pull wiring was taken out and it now has custombuckers and regular wiring.
An early christmas gift I gave myself was a ES-339. Definitely going to put a BB 3 in bridge position and a BB 2 in the neck.
I got BB1 in the neck and BB2 in the bridge on my 2020 50s standard. Love the sound of them. I think it would be cool if you could get your hands on a 50s standard and test it against your R9. Cheers
I got bb3 in the bridge and bb2 in the neck of an Epiphone Dot, they are great pickups, a lot of clarity and bite. In your rig they sound awesome, the only downside I found is the feedback, especially when you push the gain.
Great as usual! It would be really interesting if you could get your hands on some original vintage Gibson pickups and compare PAF to Pat. No. to T-top, etc.
Max..The difficulties are that every original PAF was different. There was little quality control as A2,3,4,5 magnets were my all used at various times and Pickups were wound anywhere from 7.2k (bright) to 9k ohms (dark sounding) so their is no "definitive PAF".. T Tops are are different story. Much closer tolerances 7.5k /7.6k Short A5 Magnet ,so their is no room for 'a winders interpretation' on those... They are what they are .
Great video!! I have a gibson sg Standard with burstbucker 2 in bridge and burstbucker 2 in the neck and sound great!
I love the dirt and harmonics of the unpotted, purity.
My new les paul came with 490 r and t. They are just outstanding.
Great PAF tone on both the BB2 and BB3 , but I would like to recommend the 61R and 61T Burstbucker PAF`s, - a little grittier
and a little more bark . 🎸🔊😊
Thanks Gary! I’m definitely gonna try one of those!
@@JohanSegeborn try goodtone hot vintage 59.... swiss made, takes any sd or bb for breakfast....
The medium output is just very nice!
I have heard people saying the find the BB3 thin sounding in an SG but I d o not see how . I have the BB3 in several guitars and it sounds huge.
BB2 for me. The lower output and no wax potting seems to give a much airier, defined sound with great dynamics. With a risk of feedback on high gain that is... A2 pros second. Are they potted? If so, they'd seem like a great compromise. Cheers Johan!
Nice compare! My 2011 SG std GC excl. vintage cherry came w/BB1 & 3 damn it's nice too.
I like the BB2 non potted, sounds more musical and open. I have an R9 i bought used came with seymour seth lovers (non potted) sound like your BB2. Ive swapped in dimzrzio anniv pafs but went back to the seths, and Ive been wanting to try the BBs,.. youve given me some motivation!
I have seth lovers and have compared them to the burstbickers 1 and 2 and the Seth's are a more pure vintage sounding pickup. A truer PAF tone . The burstbuckers are great but they have an more aggressive modern tone to them. The Seth's have a nice bite too but they are smother them the BB2 . They Seth's are tighter in the low end and have a more woody open sounding lower midrange and the top end is slightly more rounded. They have a very similar honk to them. The burstbuckers are like a grittier more biting slightly less clear seth . I had thr bursbkckers 1 and 2 and the Seth's in the same guitar and with the BBs the guitar was dull and lose and a bit muddy in the low end but very clear and biting in the top end . The Seth's made the guitar sound perfect . It rounded off the top end but the upper mids stayed the same and there was no loss of clarity and they made the bass tighter and the low mids more defined. I have the BB3 in the bridge of a couple if less Paul's and compared to the BB2 the 3 is tigher in the bass and more deifined in the low mids
Thanks for another one Johan! My Epi 59 les Paul came with BB2 and BB3… but I ended up switching the BB3 to a pearly gates. I’d like to try the BB2 in the bridge some time. Also have a Dimarzio 36th PAF I’d like to try one of these days. Cheers!
Cheers Andrew!
i have burst bucker 2 in the neck position in a gibson flyng v but the are a bit muddy this problem has evry gibson pickup now i will change it through a dimarzio paf dp103
I think the BB3 came out better when you played arpeggio, but I liked BB2 better for chords (although BB3 had good tone separation). Really sweet tones from SD in the LP!
Where is your brother, who plays the drums?
Cheers Bengt! I’m actually nagging my real brother to play but he’s all about sports these days. Cheers!
Love the low mids in the BB3. In a live situation I find this better. I have one in my LP, and thought that it was a BB2 at first (because that's what I was told) The lead sounds are so fat sounding but it screams as well
Potting will reduce chances of microphonic feedback (or potential) and also take off some of the high and low edges. Obviously that's a better choice for loud, high gain amps. If you happen to get the chance to A/B with a real deal burst, they are unpotted, with some variation typically on the lower end of output, all of which gives a noticeable increase in clarity. They will still push a good amp, but that lower output will emphasize articulation. A cool experiment is take the unpotted modern pickup like the BB2 and lower the pickup a bit. Gets you in the range of most Bursts I've heard in the flesh. Gibson is starting to put the unpotted, lower output pickups in some of the really high end Brazilian board Murphys and it is pretty damn close to burst sound. Of course, WHICH of the old sounds do you want? Page's No 1 is on the lower end of the spectrum (listen closely to Ramble On in It Might Get Loud), while The Beast is a frickin monster. Bottom line, they all sound damn good through a cranked Marshall. Rock on, Johan!
Jimmy's Pickups were quite different in Led Zeppelin..It was sort of unfortunate that Gibsons 2004 Reissues of Jimmy's #1 were a reiteration of the pickups in his guitar in the 2000's not what was in the instrument up to April1972 (bridge pickup change in 72 )or from April 72 until 1980 ( Zeppelin era)
My Gibson studio Bonamassa has BB2 and BB3 and is amazing....
Hey Johan ! Another nice shootout :) The difference is quite subtle, but still there. The unpotted BB2 ring a bit more and the potted BB3 have got a bit more presence in the mids. At lower volume, the BB3 might sound more muffled but played loud, the BB2 might act more microphonic. Maybe the SD Al II are the right compromise ...? Like your AC/DC attitude at 5:05 :))
P.S.: I play a pair if SD SH-2 Al V on a Tele Thinline, that sound absolutely awesome ! The SD SH-2 B (bridge) is a very underrated pickup …
Sounds great Johan, I have both - think the potted ones came with my 2002 standard and the unpotted I purchased later. The BB pro is something different too I believe. I’m really more interested in that Superbass! Cheers
Thanks, yeah that’s a wonderful rig!
BB pros have alinico 5 instead of 2
@@joecooper7803 Thanks - what would the 2002 standard have? They were potted and BB's. I assume 5?
BB pro sticker on the bottom are 5’s for sure, got a great deal on some take out’s. Thinking about trying an A2s swap
They basically sound the same on the upper frequencies but there is alot more low end and low mid content on the 3. I think the 3 is more balanced . I have never liked the 2 as a bridge pickup but it's great in the neck . I think the 1 and the 3 is the beat match. The 3 in the bridge pairs great with a custom bucker neck . They used that combo for the Ace Frehely 59 and it sounds killer. Would love to hear you test the 3 in a les paul .
I have a full stack myself, the 1960 HW. .....I came to this conclusion....any guitar sounds awesome when played thru these!
Does hi have one pickup in nech n the other in the bridge?🤔
Not as different as I thought they would be! I really dig the extra bit of jangle of the BB2 though.
Much more different when you play them in person . I have had many BB1 2 and 3 sets and in person the 3 is much brighter and not near as cold sounding as the 2. It's strange but the 3 despite being hotter is brighter then the 2 but also has more alot more lower mids and bigger bass but also alot more upper mids and a much bigger more open top end . It kind of breaks the rules of an over wound pickups. Usually the bass and treble decreased as the mids increase and the pickup gets darker but that is not the case with the BB3 and in fact I have a couple of BB3 that are barely hotter then the BB2 and those 2 BB3 are alot darker sounding then another 2 BB3s I have with around 9K. The 9K ones are way brighter then the 2 8.3k BB3 I have and I believe the lower output ones are actually mislabeled BB2s. I belive the BB3 are brighter and have a more open bigger top end because the BB3 has a much wider coil offset then the BB2 which prevents a loss of treble and even increases it despite the pickup being would hotter. Even wound buckers or owns with a very small offset will lose treble and darker quicker as more windings are added .
My LP trad pro came with a 57 classic in the neck and BB3 in the bridge, perfect combo with lots of versatility and range. The BB3 that came in my LP definitely isn’t wax potted.
@@Rebel-ul8wc I have a 2009 as well.
I have a Burstbucker 2 and a 3 in my 2002 '68 Les Paul Custom reissue and they are perfect for me in that guitar - however my 2006 Gibson 335DD has '57 Classics and as that is a VERY lively guitar already, I think that potted PAF's are a much better choice.
Burstbuckers can be had in both potted and unpotted versions . I have 2 explorers with potted burstbuckers and 1 les Paul with potted BBs and 1 les Paul with unpotted BB 2 and 3. I hear no difference and the unpotted ones do not squeal . I also have unpotted seth lovers and they will not give unwanted feedback even when standing in front of the amp . I think the squealing unpotted pickup thing is largely overblown most of the time when it does happen its becuase the cover was not installed correctly.
That SG sounds amazing
You are a legend sir
Potted #3 my favorite, #2 sounds great too. Very close but #3 sounds a little more articulate
BB2 seems to have more detail to its tone, I suppose that's what people call 'clarity'. Better for more complex harmonies etc,
I like the extra low end and low mids the BB3 gives the SG.. the BB3 is a killer les paul pickup you should try it in the les paul.
I would live to see a Johan Seymour Duncan seth Lover vs antiquity comparison and see which is the most paf like .
Very subtle differences to my ears, the #3 ever so slightly warmer and less bright. My 2015 Epiphone Bonamassa Les Paul has one of each the #2 & #3.
Like the BB 3, Duncan alnico 2, though T tops are my favorite,
Cheers Johan
Could'nt go for one. For whatever reason I don't prefer the seymores they sound good but for my ears they lack of character. Thanks You for doin this comparison.
A 57 classic neck paired with a BB3 bridge makes on awesome sounding middle position tone very unique. It's the fender on steroids type of thing. Its like the les paul middle tone with a dash of beefed up tele and a pinch of strat.. burstuckers 1 2 and 3 in any combo have a great middle tone. Verr tele on steroids honk.
Hi, Johan!
I liked #3. Very "Slashy", but the best are Seimour Duncan Alnico Pro2! Because I am playing them! See you!
Z
Thanks Zigfrid!
The after market burstbuckers are almost always unpotted unless gibson does an exclusive after market version like they did for sweet water and musicians friend . They were offering 4 conductor wax potted versions but in normal cases they are unpotted after market . When burstbuckers are stock pickups in a gibson usa guitar they are potted . In custom shop guitars the early burstbckers were unpotted but then they switched to potted for several years and now they are back using unpotted pickups for custom shop guitars but are still using potted in USA gibsons . If you buy a usa standard 50s or 60s you get potted buckers . After market they have always been unpotted. The custom shop switched back to unpotted pups in 2019 . If you have a custom shop gibson depending on the year you may have potted ones or unpotted ones
The burstbucker 3 resounds very well to magnet swapping. In the berine Marsden gibson beast replica les Paul they used a bursbkcket 2 and 3 with Alnico 5 magnets instead of alnico 2 and those things sounded huge. They still sounded like burstbuckers 2 and 3 but were just a bit crisper and tighter. They were like a slighty hotter but smoother and less harsh burstbucker pro . Burstbucker 2 and 3 sound great with Alinco 4 magnets as well they are like a middle ground between custombuckers and burstbuckers . They are like a hotter fatter custombucker but also smoother and they are a bit tighter then the standard burstbucker with a little more bite and not quite as chewy . Alnico 3 bursbuckers are more Jimmy page sounding
You know the BB Pro PUs ? Theey have the alnico 5 Magnets .
My Les Paul has a 2 and 3 in it. Thing is a flame thrower. Still might switch out the bridge for a super distortion so I can get those true Ace Frehley tones from it.
I prefer the #3. It's a bit hotter but also a bit "warmer" sounding.
Thanks, yeah that one stays in the SG
5:16 BB 2
5:28 BB3
6:02 Duncan
Would love to see a custombucker compared to the BB2 and 3 and a 57 classic plus like a Gibson modern paf round up .
Yep, those are in my Slash Appetite Paul, the BB2 AND BB3 came in my Epiphone 59 Paul
BB2 in neck position, BB3 in bridge position... Gibson did that on some models as stock (got this set up in my LP 68 CA) and they nailed it IMHO.
Am I crazy for preferring the 490s? These sound great too.
No you are not crazy, well only as crazy as I am😜I love the 490 set.
I have the BB3 in the bridge position in one of my Tokai LPs a matching (ohm) oil city pickup in the neck position. It's very reminiscent of the 70s Dimarzio super distortion all the players in those days used to change for their nasty Gibson pickups and re-fit replacement for the mini humbuckers. Gibson does make a decent pickup it's the three BB's forget the rest.
Forget the rest? What about the 61R and 61T that Gary suggested above?
When people swapped out their Gibson pickups in the 70s it was not becuase they thought they were nasty it was beucase 70s gibson pickups were not hot enough to drive the amp for players seeking heavier tones . Which is why people turned to dinarzio and duncan . Gibson t top pickups of the 70s were low in output compared to many pafs . Gibson t tops were nowhere near as powerful as a BB3 . Most tops were between 7.3 k and 7.k where most pafs were 8k to 8.5k . The t tpps were fine if you only wanted led zeppelin or ACDC level overdrive but even jimmy page was having Duncan wind him hotter pickups by the end of the 70s . But if you wanted higher levels of overdrive the gibsom pickups did have enough push as music got heavier the gibson pups could not push the amp enough and guys were nodding their marhsalls for more distortion beucase the channel switching amps and good pedals were not a thing. Now that we have multi channel amps with huge amounts of overdrive on tap and high quality pedals 70s Gibson pickips are being seen in a difftent light and have become popular and are increasing in price. Even the tarback super humbucker set only had a 5k neck and 7.5k bridge. People never thought that 70s Gibson pickups sounded nasty its was just that they did not provide enough push for the the guys wanting more then classic rock levels even Gary moore swapped out his 70s Gibsons for for dimarzios and Jimmy page had at least 2 mini humbucker les pauls that were nodded for full size humbuckers . The mini hums were nice pickups but they were only between 6k and 6 5 k and that was not going to cut it for heavier rockers . These mods were not about poor quality of gibson pickups it was about the proper pickup for the job and sometimes tha required a hotter pickups . Look how many pros went to dinarzio or Duncan for their pickup needs . Not every pickups is right for every person n burstbuckers are great pickups but they are not right for every task . For example when I want to play Mr Big by Free my seth lover loaded les paul is the better choice then my burstbckers custombuckers or whole lotta humbuckers when I want to play some rush the custombuckers seem to do the job best if I want to play classic metal or something with tight low end the whole lotta numbers are the best choice and for something more brown and mid heavy I go bursbuckers 2 and 3
Its like soldering a drive pedal into your guitar.
I prefer the bb1 and low wind imperials!
I like number two you play awesome bro I love to listen to you play
Thank you
Excellent!
It is my understanding that all Burstbuckers used a vintage single lead!
Is it possible your 4-Lead Burstbucker is a "Pro" version?
I'm not 100% sure but I believe the Burstbucker Pro use AlNiCo 5 Magnets.
I have a set of #1 and #2 in my 1986 LP Custom, I added an isolated ground lead to the neck pickup so I could wire them always out of phase when both are selected.
The always out of phase works well for myself as I'm able to control the amount of phase shift by varying and balancing the volume controls.
Great content, Thank You.
Thanks, no it’s a #3. The Pro have significantly lower output
Not true. There are Les Paul traditional pros around the 2011 Era. That have BB3 with 4-Lead. I own one. They are plan top models with 57s in the neck. Both pickups can change to single coil. Fom pulling up on the volume knobs.
Some more info : The Les Paul Traditional Pro Exclusive was a Guitar Center exclusive model designed to be a stripped down version of the original Les Paul Traditional. It features a traditional weight relieved mahogany body and neck, a plain maple top, rosewood fretboard, 60s neck profile, and coil tapping '57 Classic/Burstbucker 3 pickups. This model can be identified by a stamped 'CG' in the control cavity.
Burstbucker pro pups are ALNICO 5. The bridge is wound a little more. Wax pots. Medium out put. Got them in my LP Standard.
Burstbucker 3 is alnico 2 . Burstbucker pro is alnico 5
On my Gibson R7 from 2006, it came with BB1 and BB2. They're great, but I'd like a pickup more like the original '57. I love my Gibson.
You mean even lower output?
Excuse me. I do not speak english correctly. I meant: a pickup closer to the sound of an original PAF.
I’m from Brazil. your videos are really cool.
My #1 is #2
didn't think i would but i prefer the duncan's
Nice mic stand on the kit ;)
Jamming 🤘!!
Great sounding both, no big difference to hear , maby for player?
Thanks! Yeah the difference in low end content make them different to play
The difference between the 2 is quite substantial when played in person. The BB3 has a bigger low end and alot note pronounced lower mid . The BB3 is a bigger fatter sounding pickup with more mids . Keep in mind that not all BB3 are equal
There is a very wide output range. The ones johan compared are very close in output but that is not always the case. The BB3 can range from 8.3k to 9k. I have 4 BB3 . One is 8.3k another is 8 .36k and the other 2 are much hotter with one being 8.8k and the other 9.1. . The lower ones sound almost the same as a BB2 but the hottet ones are extremely different sounding. The hotte ones are very bright and brown . They are very van Halen 2 sounding . With a huge low end sometimes they sound close to BB2 and sometimes completely different.
I would think the magnet variables are the difference. When I make/Demo my Jimmy Page Replica Pickups on my channel, I can get the SAME result within a few hundred Ohms by altering the magnet..In fact I can change the reading on a pickup temporarily by 1,000 0hms (8.6k to 7.6k) by simply putting it in the refrigerator..A pickup measuring 8.6k in Australia in summer could well measure 7.6k in Russia.
Manufacturers don't say at what temp it was read at, so DCR specs are a little misleading.
After watching this video, I think EMGs 81 & 85 are PAF humbuckers with just high outputs, thanks to the preamp fed by the battery. Is this correct? Great video as alwats Johan
Johan very little difference..Ill stay with the B.B.2s..more bite..not a fan of S.Ds either..DiMarzios or Burstbucker2s..good job
The BB3 cleans are much nicer more rounded not as biting.
#3 ❤️🔥
Thanks! :-)
Burstbucker 2.
And im a EMG guy.
The 2 has a clarity and chime.
The 3 is muffled.
BB2 it has that it factor
Tonality of all these sounds basically the same.
Have the 2 & 3 set in my Guitar Center exclusive Les Paul Special. It's a woolly Mammoth &%=$!
ohh that BB2 got my ears bleeding, Ice picky
Jesus. Burstbucker 3 sound very Black Sabbath tone to me.
Overly hot pickups strangle tone
These pick ups are hardly 'hot'! Warm at best! HOT is like 13Kohm+!
Hot for a PAF, as would be seen on a 50s Gibson.
@@EdwardT9 Marginally, most 50s models were in therange of 7-9K!
@@DMSProduktions right, so a hot PAF would be 8.5 to 9, like a BB3.
By hot they are considered vintage hot just like the Duncan slash pickups are called vintage hot vintage hot anything 8.5k to 10k
@@DMSProduktions and bursbucker 3 in this video is 8.55 k which is more than marginally hot in vintage standards you said yourself they were 7k to 9k so 8.55 would not be marginal in that output context and many burstbickers 3 are hotter than 8 55k they range from 8.3 k to over 9k . I have one that is 9 and 8.8k and I have 2 that are 8.3k while pafs did range from 7k to 9k the vast majority were 8k to low 8k pafs hotter than 8.6k were quite rate they exist but the majority are below 8.6 so in terms of the late 50s and early 60s a BB3 would be the hottest you woild get. The older BB3 seen to be much more aggressive then the newer ones. A BB3 wound to spec is supposed to be 8..3 but in the past most were 8.6k to 8.7 but some were over 9k older 57 classic plus were alot hotter as well most now are 8.5k but older ones were white often in the high 8k and many cases over 9k. It seems Gibson are winding their pckups more to spec . My older Gibson pickups are way hotter then my newer ones or the same model. The newer BB3 seem neutered where the older ones were far more aggressive then nau other paf clone modern gbosn magnets are also more powerful then the paf era ones .
My BB2 comes in at 8.2 and BB3 at 8.18 surprisingly enough. BB3 sounds like a hot 57 classic plus to me. BB2 sounds a bit airier, slightly less mids and a little more low end. Custombuckers kind of fall between a 57 Classic plus and a BB3 in my honest opinion
The Ohms won't really effect anything unless they are way way different...I can put a 8.6k Pickup in a cold fridge for an hour and now it it measure 7.6k!.. Here in Australia a pickup measuring mid 8s will measure mid 7s in Russia
@@bryanwilliams3665 yes, that it absolutely true. The ohms are never consistently measured at the same level.
@@lorimeyers3839 Yes.. the oddity is when I make my pickups, i can get an identical sound ( to my ears) with different DCRs and yet get many Different sounds out of the same pickups with different magnets .
My ear isn't good enough to pick a few hundred Ohms hear or there.But I can hear magnet Swaps instantly
@@bryanwilliams3665interesting. Yeah, I recently put a Custombucker in my Les Paul bridge position with a BB2 in the neck position. Been jamming with that for a while now. They sound great when playing high distortion and I scoop my mids. Lol. I have an affliction for swapping pickups. Tried most of Gibson’s offerings so far.
BB2 for me. The lower output and no wax potting seems to give a much airier, defined sound with great dynamics. With a risk of feedback on high gain that is... A2 pros second. Are they potted? If so, they'd seem like a great compromise. Cheers Johan!