I think CERATEC liqui moly will just cover up everything here ! I’m not fun of filling up any additive than just synthetic oil to the engine but since I was just so curious to try Ceratec to both my 3 cars, the old 2004 R53 Mini Cooper s 75K mile, 2002 TTQ 100K mile and 2016 S1 Gen3. Now I can tell you after 1K mile driving : quiet than before, smooth acceleration better than before, best of all - this ceratec is not BS snake oil product, yes it did the job You will notice the differences after run of 100 mile as long as your engine is not dirty/clogged you can safely use the liqui moly ceratec to smooth engine noice and better performance
I've used Ceratec and I'vent noticed a thing other than a slightly smoother idle. 0% fuel consumption tho difference... This one seems to be more reliable on the outcome; gonna try it in my corsa D 1.2 which is famous for tappeting.
I use Ceratec too and just pure synthetic oil in my N51B30 engine. That’s it. Just those 2. I don’t want so many cooks in my kitchen. Most of the time, it ruins the meal.
The comments r ppl who haven’t had m50/m52/m54. This is a persistent problem from buildup in hydraulic lifter . If the sound does go away after oil and components are warm, chances are it will come back when colder. Will have to give this stuff a try on my m54
I can approve this, my e36 m50 (stroked) had the same issue.. been sittinf for 2 months, starts making ticking noise, used engine flush and lifter additive, new engine oil and she's smooth again ❤
Any E36 motor that’s been “sitting for a long time” will behave exactly like this: ticks like the dickens for the first few minutes until the hydraulic lifters fill up with the cool oil. Then later when the engine gets fully warmed up, they often begin to tap again at idle. The various additives usually make little to no difference. The only thing I’ve had any luck with is swap oil with 1QT of single weight 30W + Dextron for the rest: run it varying between 2k and 3.5k RPM for about and hour, drain fully + full filter swap, fill with 20W-50 (if not in freezing climates like here in SFBay). The high detergent Dextron will loosen any slightly stuck lifters. If it still ticks, ball check valves are dusted and need to be replaced.
@@rocketsaladyou do realize this is under no-load conditions and < 4k RPM. What do you think these engines are made out of; paper maché ? ;) The whole point is to ensure 1) as low a viscosity as possible, and 2) highest detergent content possible, both of which ATF holds the top spot. Back in the olden days I remember boomer friends of my dad running an entire Chevy small block full of Dextron II for "A thousand miles" without issue to try and loosen a stuck hydraulic lifter. Granted, these engines had looser tolerances than an S/M-50/52, but there's a reason ATF used to be 5x the cost of motor oil… it was pretty much the "state of the art lubricant and hydraulic fluid humans can commercially make" at the time and it hasn't gotten worse. Nowadays, they put just as many other additives in motor oil that it's nearly ATF. The 0W-16 that the 2024 Toyota Prius calls for is essentially "slightly thicker ATF".
@@fiveangle Man, I'm not worried because I think they're made of paper, my concern comes from knowing how my customers treat these thirty year old engines and the kind of lives most of these cars have led, i.e. the "Zero Maintenance Plan." You want to run trans fluid through someone's wiped big end bearings, flattened cams, and sticky buckets, be my guest, I'm not the one answering the phone for you when the bill for the actual repair shows up. Repairs don't come in a bottle, and the only problem solver that comes in a can is beer.
Hi. I have a vw golf mk5, oil capacity : 4.5L of oil. I recently did my oil change and now i have 4.5L filled. It is good to put this aditive keeping in mind that i already have my oil topped up?
Guys please try to not do this. It works just fine of course but if your gonna go ahead and do this please just do your valve cover gasket while your at it, plus you’ll be able to check part of your engine while it’s off and directly apply this here product onto the lifters in a fluid/ even manner. Why not knock out 3 birds with one stone right?
It does not come back if you use thicker oil grades like 10w-XX or 15w-XX. Thicker oil doesn't drain from lifters so easily. Lifter additive does exactly that, it changes the viscosity of your oil, makes it thicker.
Just got lifter tick out of nowhere when I got off work today, may try this as a temporary fix until I can finally get a weekend off to actually fix and deal with this
Hello! My corolla 1NZ-FE engine makes the same sound and takes very long starts, mechanic said it's coz of the lifters or tapets as commonly used term. Would it improve the engine starting as well? Regards.
What brand oil and weight are you using? I am using Shell Rotella in both of my S52s, T6 in the DD and T4 in the track car, and neither makes audible tick noises as yours does.
Quick question. So I’ve had my oil in my car for like 3 years or less. But my car has been sitting in the garage literally the whole time. Maybe got 50 miles or less on that oil. I checked the oil And it still looks fresh and gold. You think I’ll be good?
Do you think this will work on a vehicle that barely has a bad lifter had the mechanic check at the other day he said this is the very beginning stages of it do you really think this will work 2008 GMC Sierra 1500 5.3 liter V8 gasoline powered? And do you keep it in the engine after you use it
Did you Try it? I have a 4.8 l Chevy 1500 whit the same thing. seems like when it heats up it ticks. sometimes it does it when I start it. it sometimes disappears and then comes back.
Do we need to replace the oil some time later after adding Lqui Moil Engine Flush? I mean for example, should we replace the oil like 500km later or keep waiting untill the regular maintenance? I will add Lqui Moil Engine Flush tomorrow but I just replced my oil and its filters, do I need to replace them sooner? Could you please answer that?
No you should be ok to stay with your usual engine oil service. Now this is not a flush. This is just a lifter additive. If it were one of the engine flushes they would run it in the engine for a few min the drain the oil and refill. But this is not a flush. I did this with a fresh oil change the 3 times I have used it and just ran a regular oil service interval. Did not add this at the next service but still going with no tapping.
Engine flush additive is used prior to engine oil change. Get engine at operating temperature, then add flush to old oil and idle the engine for 10-15 min. After that, you change the oil and oil filter. Procedure is written on the product. DO NOT DRIVE IT WITH FLUSH ADDITIVE.
Do not drive with Liquimoly Engine Flush in your car. It is meant for right before oil changes, you sit and let it idle for 15 minutes. then change your oil right after.
Most of the lifter noises vanish after engine oil circulation into cylinder head Add nothing and drive down the town You will have same noise reduction as you attribute to lifter additive
Man I have to disagree. We drove the M3 several times getting it up to temperature several times. Even driving on the interstate for several miles. It was still ticking the same as it was when it was cold. The results of this additive were truly amazing. I have had a deflated lifter that would prime after driving a bit on other engines. But the lifters or Hydraulic valve actuators as BMW calls them would not fill up at all.
Now I do agree that a good drive to see if a lifter will stop ticking before any other measures. Some times a lifter just looses prime and a nice drive will fill it back up. But if that doesn’t work. This would be a great try before replacing hard parts!
Well it is still running great with over 500 miles since this video. The 530i that I used this product on is still running great with a few oil changes since we added this treatment. Still no ticking and running great. I’ll update if I notice any failures or odd issues that come up. 👍
The N52 has issues with not providing enough oil to the hydraulic valve actuators(hva). BMW had us doing a procedure of bringing the engine up to 3500rpm for 5 min or something to that effect. If that didn’t work we had to replace all of the hvas and if that didn’t work we had to replace the head. But that ticking doesn’t hurt anything. I don’t believe this additive would fix your issue. This seems to be more for lifters that have carbon buildup causing the problem.
Negative, I am told you don not need to change the oil after. Keep to you normal oil service interval. And once it cleans out the passages it does not need to be reapplied.
@@Baerchenization it does say for lasting effect to add it at every oil change. I have only added it at the oil service when a lifter was ticking. On my nephews BMW 530i That was a few oil changes ago. Still not ticking. Lol. This M3 is still on the same oil.
Lifter additive is not a cleaner, you don't use it for cleaning lifters! You use it to make your oil thicker, so it quiet down the lifters. It changes the viscosity of your oil. Goal is to keep that oil after adding the additive. Thicker oil stays better in the lifters, and doesn't drain overnight...makes cold start smoother. Obviously, no ticking when engine at operating temperature too. Very similar results can be obtained by completely using thicker grade (10w40 or 15w40) engine oil.
@@PureRocker20 IMO that is all it is - thicker oil that changes the viscosity of the oil. How else would you want to "fix" the ticking? There is no magic solution that can travel independently within the existing oil while being so smart it can locate lifters and then say "oh there you are lifters, now Imma gonna stay here with you forever" :)
These would not. It seems the BMW S50/S52 ans m50/m52 engines have the same issues at high mileage. The Liqui Moli rep told me it was due to carbon build up in the lifter not allowing fresh oil in to pump the lifter up. Abusing the ticking. He said this additive helps break down that carbon. And it seems to have done that very well.
I agree. Some long term testing would be needed to see how long the treatment works for. The immediate results are impressive. Thank you for your input.
@@boodylynch850 it all depends on what the problem is. If it’s a mechanical issue then this will not fix it. If it is a carbon buildup issue then this could fix it.
It was tick all the time. Cold or hot made no difference. It was quiet after adding the LM on cold start and when up to temperature. I am still very impressed with the results.
Rodrigo Velasco from what the rep told me it is a fix. He said that carbon builds up in the lifters and restricts oil flow over time. This supposedly goes in and breaks up that carbon and lets oil get into the lifters. Now if the lifter has a mechanical problem then only replacement will fix that. But this product is worth a try first before tearing into the motor. It has worked on the 4 engines I have tried it on.
Just buy new lifters and replace... don't be putting random stuff in your engine when you know the issue and its easy to replace... Waste of time money and effort id say. I have the same issue on my m54 and ill just be either taking it apart or just giving it to a buddy who got all the tools. For someone who is fine with a temp fix i'm sure this works ye...
M96k3y I had the same mind set as you. The Liqui Moli rep told me to try it and see. The first motor I used it in belongs to my nephew. He has been driving his 2002 530i for over a year now with a few oil changes and the ticking has not returned. Before giving you car away I would try this stuff. I did not believe in additives and stuff. But this stuff sold me. I have been working on BMW’s for 20 years.
@@joshuabmwguy6444 Nah wont be selling it as its in great condition beside this ticking., a lot of stuff have been replaced / fixed. The engine will be taken apart either way that's main reason i really don't wanna be trying any additives at the moment since its better off to just fix the issue while its open. My comment shouldn't have been made as i have never tested / tried to use these additives and it could work but i just strongly dont believe a mechanical issue can be fixed trough liquids for a long term. I've been working on & learning bout e46 mainly and i haven't got more than about 3-5 years of experience at this point. It's enough for the basics and to understand what happens when it does but this ticking got me by a surprise wasn't expecting it at all. I had a blown head gasket not long ago and now this popped up. Gotta love old beemers.
M96k3y I’m actually giving the M3 away. Long story but the previous owner was a friend of mine. We are restoring the M3 and giving it to his daughter. It’s what he would have wanted. The engine is still running great. No ticking🤷🏻♂️.
Seemingly first thing BMW techs do is rev the engine, constant revs for like 20mins. If no fix then onto other things. Driving gently causes so much issues.
M54 engines would benefit from it due to having hydraulic valve actuators but a s54 would not(M3) because it uses cam followers that are a solid valve train.
@@joshuabmwguy6444 The AFP VR6s use hydraulic lifters, but I’m honestly just trying anything I can to get rid of this rattling sound which I do believe is the lifters potentially stuck. I’ve heard I could be using oil that’s too thick making it unable to fill the lifters and allow them to operate properly? But I don’t know
I know many of the bmw motors ( m20 s52, s54) need valve adjustments every 4-10K miles. If I'm having ticking, should I first try a valve adjustment, or just pour this stuff in a see if the ticking goes away? Thanks in advance
Those engines have solid valve train. This only works on engine that have hydraulic lifters. Also known as hydraulic valve actuators. This product will not make any mechanical adjustments to the valves.
And this is how mechanics "FIX" your car! When you go pick it up, they show you the bill with all the shit they say they did. (DID NOT). And there you have it. THE TRUTH HURTS.
Always take you car to a trusted shop. Ask for the old parts if you don’t trust who is working on your vehicle. Not all shops are created equal. Not all technicians are equal even at the same shop.
@@kadeem.spencer oh I read that wrong. It only took a few min for it to work. The times I have used this on engines for lifter ticking. It has not return yet.
Both previous times we tried this product we drove maybe 5 miles and the results were dramatic! Now from what I understand this product cleans out carbon build up in the lifter and allows it to get primed up and stop the lifter noise. It will not fix worn or broken parts.
I would agree with that. But from what I know, I was the third owner of this M3 and had no control over what oil or service intervals were used before my ownership. This was the second S52 engine I have owned that had this lifter tick. This product worked great for my situation.
@@hanynowsky If you think zinc can sort out lifter tick then you are allowed to have that opinion. Doesn't mean other people have to believe you. Because lifter tick has been an issue for as long as hydraulic tappets have been used in engines, and that includes when oils all contained zinc. Zinc has been replaced with better additives.
This engine didn’t stop ticking after several drive cycles. And even tried keeping it above 3500rpm for 5 minutes as BMW recommended to make lifters stop ticking. I was a firm believer in not adding any additives to engine oil and I only used BMW oil in BMW engines...the Liqui Moly rep gave me this stuff to try and I have to say I am very impressed with the results and the speed that the results showed. I will be trying out some of the other products they make. 👍
The computer monitors cam position and if it doesn’t see the cam achieve the desired position it will set the service engine light and deactivate the Vanos. So far I have not had that happen and the new owner has not mentioned any issues of that nature. Still running good.
@@joshuabmwguy6444 handy to know , i had wondered if the lower viscosity had maybe slowed down the oil flow to actuate the vanos after the solenoid had operated .
@@tungbear2206 those engines have many problems revolving around the balance shaft. The cam timing units also seem to have issues. I am not a Mercedes guy so I can not tell you everything about those engines. But I used to work next to a Mercedes tech and they had to tear down many of those motors. Especially the first few years of production. You should probably get it looked at by a specialist.
We did drive the car. Put about 50 miles on it before this. I guess next time I’ll have to do a before with a long drive. Then after results. Thank you for the input.
its absolutely purring! The difference it made is impressive
I feel relieved knowing that there's something foe the problem. Thansk!!!
Liqui Moly stuff is golden man
So we replaced your lifters and that will be $900 sir
awesome 👏🏻, i will try this on my m3 ! thanks for this video !!
Did it work?
@@darrenalvarez5987 my problem end up my spark plug been loose
Good afternoon, I put 150 ml in a zetec rocam and believe me if you want, the performance of the 1.0 has improved a lot, the product is really good.
Not for performance young man! This is placebo effect... this thing just work, as a lifter ticking fix...
It works!
I think CERATEC liqui moly will just cover up everything here ! I’m not fun of filling up any additive than just synthetic oil to the engine but since I was just so curious to try Ceratec to both my 3 cars, the old 2004 R53 Mini Cooper s 75K mile, 2002 TTQ 100K mile and 2016 S1 Gen3. Now I can tell you after 1K mile driving : quiet than before, smooth acceleration better than before, best of all - this ceratec is not BS snake oil product, yes it did the job You will notice the differences after run of 100 mile as long as your engine is not dirty/clogged you can safely use the liqui moly ceratec to smooth engine noice and better performance
I've used Ceratec and I'vent noticed a thing other than a slightly smoother idle. 0% fuel consumption tho difference...
This one seems to be more reliable on the outcome; gonna try it in my corsa D 1.2 which is famous for tappeting.
I use Ceratec too and just pure synthetic oil in my N51B30 engine. That’s it. Just those 2.
I don’t want so many cooks in my kitchen. Most of the time, it ruins the meal.
The comments r ppl who haven’t had m50/m52/m54. This is a persistent problem from buildup in hydraulic lifter . If the sound does go away after oil and components are warm, chances are it will come back when colder.
Will have to give this stuff a try on my m54
Did it work and for
How long got a beautiful eu spec e46 here in Germany and only thing that throws it all off is those hydraulic lifters
That’s a NICE👍COLOUR M3!!
Stoked to look into this. At least until I have time to replace the lifters.
I can approve this, my e36 m50 (stroked) had the same issue.. been sittinf for 2 months, starts making ticking noise, used engine flush and lifter additive, new engine oil and she's smooth again ❤
Did the ticking ever come back? My X3 was left sitting for months during the pandemic, after which developed a ticking afterwards.
Any E36 motor that’s been “sitting for a long time” will behave exactly like this: ticks like the dickens for the first few minutes until the hydraulic lifters fill up with the cool oil. Then later when the engine gets fully warmed up, they often begin to tap again at idle. The various additives usually make little to no difference. The only thing I’ve had any luck with is swap oil with 1QT of single weight 30W + Dextron for the rest: run it varying between 2k and 3.5k RPM for about and hour, drain fully + full filter swap, fill with 20W-50 (if not in freezing climates like here in SFBay). The high detergent Dextron will loosen any slightly stuck lifters. If it still ticks, ball check valves are dusted and need to be replaced.
Do me a favor. Next time you have a an e36 ticking try a bottle of this stuff and report back. I have a feeling you will be impressed. I was.
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one quart of actual oil and just over five quarts of ATF? for real? I've done 50/50 but frankly your recipe just sounds suicidal o_O
@@rocketsaladyou do realize this is under no-load conditions and < 4k RPM. What do you think these engines are made out of; paper maché ? ;) The whole point is to ensure 1) as low a viscosity as possible, and 2) highest detergent content possible, both of which ATF holds the top spot.
Back in the olden days I remember boomer friends of my dad running an entire Chevy small block full of Dextron II for "A thousand miles" without issue to try and loosen a stuck hydraulic lifter. Granted, these engines had looser tolerances than an S/M-50/52, but there's a reason ATF used to be 5x the cost of motor oil… it was pretty much the "state of the art lubricant and hydraulic fluid humans can commercially make" at the time and it hasn't gotten worse. Nowadays, they put just as many other additives in motor oil that it's nearly ATF. The 0W-16 that the 2024 Toyota Prius calls for is essentially "slightly thicker ATF".
@@fiveangle Man, I'm not worried because I think they're made of paper, my concern comes from knowing how my customers treat these thirty year old engines and the kind of lives most of these cars have led, i.e. the "Zero Maintenance Plan." You want to run trans fluid through someone's wiped big end bearings, flattened cams, and sticky buckets, be my guest, I'm not the one answering the phone for you when the bill for the actual repair shows up.
Repairs don't come in a bottle, and the only problem solver that comes in a can is beer.
I'd like to hear a followup after a couple thousand miles or kilometers.
holy moly
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I used atomium active additive for n52
Hi. I have a vw golf mk5, oil capacity : 4.5L of oil. I recently did my oil change and now i have 4.5L filled. It is good to put this aditive keeping in mind that i already have my oil topped up?
Guys please try to not do this. It works just fine of course but if your gonna go ahead and do this please just do your valve cover gasket while your at it, plus you’ll be able to check part of your engine while it’s off and directly apply this here product onto the lifters in a fluid/ even manner. Why not knock out 3 birds with one stone right?
Hey Joshua? How did it go so far. Because it was 10 months ago, did the noise come back?
No ticking so far. Still running great! Just sold the car and about to ship it to the north east!
@@joshuabmwguy6444 Wow! great! I guess I will use the brand's other products. I asked another question, could you please answer that too
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My engine has a capacity of 6.5 liters of oil and it is full. Does it have to be 6.2 to be able to use the addon
What is a brand
The noise usually comes back once you do a cold start.
The noise has not returned yet. Even after sitting for several days.
@@joshuabmwguy6444 after applying the valve lifter?
@@peterkim2987 been a while now. Still no ticking. 👍
It does not come back if you use thicker oil grades like 10w-XX or 15w-XX.
Thicker oil doesn't drain from lifters so easily.
Lifter additive does exactly that, it changes the viscosity of your oil, makes it thicker.
Just got lifter tick out of nowhere when I got off work today, may try this as a temporary fix until I can finally get a weekend off to actually fix and deal with this
What vehicle do you have ticking?
What is the result now
Hello!
My corolla 1NZ-FE engine makes the same sound and takes very long starts, mechanic said it's coz of the lifters or tapets as commonly used term. Would it improve the engine starting as well?
Regards.
I am not sure. I am a BMW tech. I don’t know if the Toyota engines have issues like this. I’m am sorry...all I know is BMW and old hot rods.
Thank you for your time my friend.
Is that ok to use it with liqui moly 10w40 mos2 oil.two different things aren't they?
@@raheelmughal5582 my LM rep told me it can be used with any engine oil.
check camshaft position sensor
The trick is bring it to 2500 for 10 mins bleed the air out of the lifters
You are correct, that is the factory specified procedure.
Will the car could drive with this additive to the next oil service, fx 2000 miles?
Mads Maltesen I left the additive in tell the next normality scheduled oil service.
Can you used that with mazda?
What brand oil and weight are you using? I am using Shell Rotella in both of my S52s, T6 in the DD and T4 in the track car, and neither makes audible tick noises as yours does.
We were using the factory BMW 5w-30
I changed my oil a week ago so can i still use it even if the oil is not fresh?
One week old oil is pretty fresh. I would say yes. You should be fine.
I can hear the vanos too
What was that other rattle sound? I have that too and I'm still unable to find the root cause of it. Sounds like the chain is grinding something.
Vanos
Did you change the oil right after or you leave it on?
Left it in it. Did an oil change right before.
Hello, nice video. It's a change viscosity product, is it safe?
Age of Doom I have not had any issues. Still not ticking. 👍🏻
Can you use the additive on solid lifters. 350 Chevy.
It would have no effect on solid lifters.
Have you ever tried Marvel Mystery Oil?
I have used it for long term storage of engines but not as an additive.
sounds more like timing chain to me
Quick question. So I’ve had my oil in my car for like 3 years or less. But my car has been sitting in the garage literally the whole time. Maybe got 50 miles or less on that oil. I checked the oil And it still looks fresh and gold. You think I’ll be good?
Probably best to change it
I would change it.
@@renciks5610 yea I’m gonna change it haha. Thank you I appreciate it.
@@joshuabmwguy6444 thank you as well🙏🏼. Very much appreciated for the reply 🙏🏼
Do I need to do a full oil change or can I put it in as a top off?
I have only added when I did a full oil change. I have not tried to just add when topping off.
Any idea what the part number of the additive is? Thanx
Sorry for the delay part number 20004
Do you think this will work on a vehicle that barely has a bad lifter had the mechanic check at the other day he said this is the very beginning stages of it do you really think this will work 2008 GMC Sierra 1500 5.3 liter V8 gasoline powered? And do you keep it in the engine after you use it
I don’t believe it will fix a failing lifter. It will only clean out carbon build up in a lifter and allow the lifter to refill with oil.
Did you Try it? I have a 4.8 l Chevy 1500 whit the same thing. seems like when it heats up it ticks. sometimes it does it when I start it. it sometimes disappears and then comes back.
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Do we need to replace the oil some time later after adding Lqui Moil Engine Flush? I mean for example, should we replace the oil like 500km later or keep waiting untill the regular maintenance?
I will add Lqui Moil Engine Flush tomorrow but I just replced my oil and its filters, do I need to replace them sooner?
Could you please answer that?
No you should be ok to stay with your usual engine oil service. Now this is not a flush. This is just a lifter additive. If it were one of the engine flushes they would run it in the engine for a few min the drain the oil and refill. But this is not a flush. I did this with a fresh oil change the 3 times I have used it and just ran a regular oil service interval. Did not add this at the next service but still going with no tapping.
Engine flush additive is used prior to engine oil change.
Get engine at operating temperature, then add flush to old oil and idle the engine for 10-15 min.
After that, you change the oil and oil filter.
Procedure is written on the product.
DO NOT DRIVE IT WITH FLUSH ADDITIVE.
Do not drive with Liquimoly Engine Flush in your car. It is meant for right before oil changes, you sit and let it idle for 15 minutes. then change your oil right after.
Most of the lifter noises vanish after engine oil circulation into cylinder head
Add nothing and drive down the town
You will have same noise reduction as you attribute to lifter additive
Man I have to disagree. We drove the M3 several times getting it up to temperature several times. Even driving on the interstate for several miles. It was still ticking the same as it was when it was cold. The results of this additive were truly amazing. I have had a deflated lifter that would prime after driving a bit on other engines. But the lifters or Hydraulic valve actuators as BMW calls them would not fill up at all.
Now I do agree that a good drive to see if a lifter will stop ticking before any other measures. Some times a lifter just looses prime and a nice drive will fill it back up. But if that doesn’t work. This would be a great try before replacing hard parts!
It just hide the noise but doesnt cure anything. Just makes oil ticker
I bet that m3 needs all new bearings and rebuild 😁
Well it is still running great with over 500 miles since this video. The 530i that I used this product on is still running great with a few oil changes since we added this treatment. Still no ticking and running great. I’ll update if I notice any failures or odd issues that come up. 👍
Cuanto tiempo tardo en desaparecer el sonido , basta con tenerlo 30 min encendido?
Sal a la carretera y haces 10km a más de 3mil/3.5 rpm para que renueve el aceite de los taques y listo, funciona!!
Do I have to use it with liqui moly oil? I just have some mobil1 laying around
Kenneth Snyder seeing how it is just an additive I would say mobile1 would be fine.
Should the engine oil be changed after using it?
They say you don’t have to change the oil. I have not.
Thanks
Good ?
@@maxalaine7812 yes. It’s working.
should i use the whole bottle for my Picanto? it’s only got 3.5L engine oil capacity so i feel like i should just use half a bottle.
It says a minimum of 3L oil capacity so it sounds like your engine could use the whole container.
Does it work ?
My 2010 picanto sounds like a diesel truck lol
I have an e92 with a n52 engine and added this in but it’s still ticking
The N52 has issues with not providing enough oil to the hydraulic valve actuators(hva). BMW had us doing a procedure of bringing the engine up to 3500rpm for 5 min or something to that effect. If that didn’t work we had to replace all of the hvas and if that didn’t work we had to replace the head. But that ticking doesn’t hurt anything. I don’t believe this additive would fix your issue. This seems to be more for lifters that have carbon buildup causing the problem.
Would this work on my m50b25?
Yes
Was some oil drained before adding?
No we just added to the existing oil and did not drain any out.
Check that your oil level allows for an extra 300ml, you don't want to be overfilling.
Does it need to change the oil after adding this stuff to the engine?
Negative, I am told you don not need to change the oil after. Keep to you normal oil service interval. And once it cleans out the passages it does not need to be reapplied.
@@joshuabmwguy6444 The directions say it has to be reapplied with every oil change.
@@Baerchenization it does say for lasting effect to add it at every oil change. I have only added it at the oil service when a lifter was ticking. On my nephews BMW 530i That was a few oil changes ago. Still not ticking. Lol. This M3 is still on the same oil.
Lifter additive is not a cleaner, you don't use it for cleaning lifters!
You use it to make your oil thicker, so it quiet down the lifters. It changes the viscosity of your oil. Goal is to keep that oil after adding the additive.
Thicker oil stays better in the lifters, and doesn't drain overnight...makes cold start smoother. Obviously, no ticking when engine at operating temperature too.
Very similar results can be obtained by completely using thicker grade (10w40 or 15w40) engine oil.
@@PureRocker20 IMO that is all it is - thicker oil that changes the viscosity of the oil. How else would you want to "fix" the ticking? There is no magic solution that can travel independently within the existing oil while being so smart it can locate lifters and then say "oh there you are lifters, now Imma gonna stay here with you forever" :)
10w60 ONLY
Most lifters quite down after warmup anyway, especially after sitting.
These would not. It seems the BMW S50/S52 ans m50/m52 engines have the same issues at high mileage. The Liqui Moli rep told me it was due to carbon build up in the lifter not allowing fresh oil in to pump the lifter up. Abusing the ticking. He said this additive helps break down that carbon. And it seems to have done that very well.
False. I own an e36 328is and the sounds does not go away.
@@redjstc9123 yeah pretty much same result here... Nothing changed using this product
@@joshuabmwguy6444is it worth the try
Same here- still ticking. It did seem to make a difference for a few days
I have civic hybrid 2009 it’s done 550,000km this ok to use?
I am a BMW guy. I don’t know if your engine has hydraulic lifters or solid. It will work on hydraulic not solid.
Would it work in 2012 c300?
I’m not sure. I’m a BMW guy. I don’t know if the c300 has solid or hydraulic lifters. This works on hydraulic lifters.
Would it would on a 94 325is?
94 should be an M50b25 and yes it would work on that engine.
Can I used on mercedes w221 6v
I am not familiar with Mercedes engines but if it has hydraulic valve actuators or hydraulic lifters then yes it should work.
need 20 ,30 km to see the difference
I agree. Some long term testing would be needed to see how long the treatment works for. The immediate results are impressive. Thank you for your input.
Sorty but a comparison from a cold start with warm is not a valid test - should have compared with oil at operating temp
The ticking never came back. Hot or cold. I sold the car on Cars and bids and the new owner is very happy.
Will this work in a Silverado 1500
@@boodylynch850 it all depends on what the problem is. If it’s a mechanical issue then this will not fix it. If it is a carbon buildup issue then this could fix it.
That's called heat soak. The results should be recorded on cold start, not when the motor is warmed up
Lifter tick is not present when engine is just started up it tick when engine is warm at idle...
It was tick all the time. Cold or hot made no difference. It was quiet after adding the LM on cold start and when up to temperature. I am still very impressed with the results.
Will work on e46 1.9cc m43 engine?
The M43 engine does have hydraulic lifters so it should work.
Does this type of product really solve the problem or just hide it?
Rodrigo Velasco from what the rep told me it is a fix. He said that carbon builds up in the lifters and restricts oil flow over time. This supposedly goes in and breaks up that carbon and lets oil get into the lifters. Now if the lifter has a mechanical problem then only replacement will fix that. But this product is worth a try first before tearing into the motor. It has worked on the 4 engines I have tried it on.
Just buy new lifters and replace... don't be putting random stuff in your engine when you know the issue and its easy to replace...
Waste of time money and effort id say. I have the same issue on my m54 and ill just be either taking it apart or just giving it to a buddy who got all the tools.
For someone who is fine with a temp fix i'm sure this works ye...
M96k3y I had the same mind set as you. The Liqui Moli rep told me to try it and see. The first motor I used it in belongs to my nephew. He has been driving his 2002 530i for over a year now with a few oil changes and the ticking has not returned. Before giving you car away I would try this stuff. I did not believe in additives and stuff. But this stuff sold me. I have been working on BMW’s for 20 years.
@@joshuabmwguy6444 Nah wont be selling it as its in great condition beside this ticking., a lot of stuff have been replaced / fixed.
The engine will be taken apart either way that's main reason i really don't wanna be trying any additives at the moment since its better off to just fix the issue while its open.
My comment shouldn't have been made as i have never tested / tried to use these additives and it could work but i just strongly dont believe a mechanical issue can be fixed trough liquids for a long term.
I've been working on & learning bout e46 mainly and i haven't got more than about 3-5 years of experience at this point. It's enough for the basics and to understand what happens when it does but this ticking got me by a surprise wasn't expecting it at all. I had a blown head gasket not long ago and now this popped up. Gotta love old beemers.
M96k3y I’m actually giving the M3 away. Long story but the previous owner was a friend of mine. We are restoring the M3 and giving it to his daughter. It’s what he would have wanted. The engine is still running great. No ticking🤷🏻♂️.
Did u change oil same time or u just poured it in?
We did an oil change previously. Then after a few miles we added the additive.
Seemingly first thing BMW techs do is rev the engine, constant revs for like 20mins. If no fix then onto other things.
Driving gently causes so much issues.
Hahah
That's called an Italian tune up!
would it be okay to put it in my 04 e46 3 series?
M54 engines would benefit from it due to having hydraulic valve actuators but a s54 would not(M3) because it uses cam followers that are a solid valve train.
@@joshuabmwguy6444 thank you so much.
didnt work for me. :(
Just tried this on my 2001 VW Jetta VR6 and it didn’t do anything at all for the sound.
Oh man. I am not sure what valve train the vr6 uses. I am a BMW guy. The only VW that I have a little knowledge on are air cooled.
@@joshuabmwguy6444 The AFP VR6s use hydraulic lifters, but I’m honestly just trying anything I can to get rid of this rattling sound which I do believe is the lifters potentially stuck. I’ve heard I could be using oil that’s too thick making it unable to fill the lifters and allow them to operate properly? But I don’t know
I know many of the bmw motors ( m20 s52, s54) need valve adjustments every 4-10K miles. If I'm having ticking, should I first try a valve adjustment, or just pour this stuff in a see if the ticking goes away?
Thanks in advance
Those engines have solid valve train. This only works on engine that have hydraulic lifters. Also known as hydraulic valve actuators. This product will not make any mechanical adjustments to the valves.
Did the noise come back?
Not yet
@@joshuabmwguy6444 how long has it been?
@@JaeyTarg he said in a earlier statement his cousins more than a year, no noise 😅😊
And this is how mechanics "FIX" your car! When you go pick it up, they show you the bill with all the shit they say they did. (DID NOT). And there you have it. THE TRUTH HURTS.
Always take you car to a trusted shop. Ask for the old parts if you don’t trust who is working on your vehicle. Not all shops are created equal. Not all technicians are equal even at the same shop.
How long did it take for the ticking noise to come back after using?
About 8 min of driving. Not long at all.
@@joshuabmwguy6444 So this only fixes the ticking for 8 minutes and the problem comes back right after? Is that what you’re saying?
@@kadeem.spencer oh I read that wrong. It only took a few min for it to work. The times I have used this on engines for lifter ticking. It has not return yet.
vanos is making noise too
@@kadeem.spencer :D :D :D :D I did read it exactly the same way - 8 minutes and the effect is gone :D
Engine was at the same temperature ?
I’m not sure what you are asking. The tick has not returned regardless of temperature.
i tryed on mine and didn’t work well i probably need to drive it more i drove it dor 15 miles !! do i need to drive it more ?
Both previous times we tried this product we drove maybe 5 miles and the results were dramatic! Now from what I understand this product cleans out carbon build up in the lifter and allows it to get primed up and stop the lifter noise. It will not fix worn or broken parts.
You need to use a better quality oil with shorter intervals
I would agree with that. But from what I know, I was the third owner of this M3 and had no control over what oil or service intervals were used before my ownership. This was the second S52 engine I have owned that had this lifter tick. This product worked great for my situation.
@@joshuabmwguy6444 I did not express that well. The implication was that going forward you should....
Does this work on solid lifter?
No. Solid lifters do not use oil to take up slack in the valve train. The only way to quiet solid lifters is to mechanically adjust them.
how often do you need to add it?
can add every oil change
Will it work with Oil that has been driving 1000 miles, (not old Dirty Oil)
Mads Maltesen I have only tried it with a fresh oil change. I have never tried it with miles on the oil.
I would say Yes, it will work
You can use any f. Synthetic oil that has Zink in it and it will quieten the lifters the same way liqui moly does.
That is interesting. Valvoline has a synthetic VR1 oil that has a lot of zink in it. I’ll have to try that and see if the results are the same.
That isn't true.
@@bigjml I tried it in a multitude of engines. Mostly bmw. And it worked.
Zink is removed from modern engine oils
@@hanynowsky If you think zinc can sort out lifter tick then you are allowed to have that opinion.
Doesn't mean other people have to believe you.
Because lifter tick has been an issue for as long as hydraulic tappets have been used in engines, and that includes when oils all contained zinc.
Zinc has been replaced with better additives.
Mine ticks rapidly when I accelerate
Ticking is not always lifters. First check your oil level.
@@joshuabmwguy6444 Yeah I filled it, & I did let it get too low so I put some liquid moly in there & I'm gonna change the the oil
Lifters on those engines will kalibre after driving if it has standing for long time, dont need to add some stuff.
This engine didn’t stop ticking after several drive cycles. And even tried keeping it above 3500rpm for 5 minutes as BMW recommended to make lifters stop ticking. I was a firm believer in not adding any additives to engine oil and I only used BMW oil in BMW engines...the Liqui Moly rep gave me this stuff to try and I have to say I am very impressed with the results and the speed that the results showed. I will be trying out some of the other products they make. 👍
It’s piston slap not lifters.
It was lifters. Pistons slap will get less pronounced as engine get up to temperature. This ticking didn’t care about engine temperature.
Hydraulic lifters are really pain in de arase -_-
but the vanos is probably not working now instead.
The computer monitors cam position and if it doesn’t see the cam achieve the desired position it will set the service engine light and deactivate the Vanos. So far I have not had that happen and the new owner has not mentioned any issues of that nature. Still running good.
@@joshuabmwguy6444 handy to know , i had wondered if the lower viscosity had maybe slowed down the oil flow to actuate the vanos after the solenoid had operated .
Cold engine vs warm engine ,,,this proves nothing
I bay and put inside in my M50 engin and 0 point.Just lose €€€$$.
not work!
Please provide more information. What vehicle and engine did you try it on? This would be valuable information to share.
@@joshuabmwguy6444 w221 s350 2006 bro
@@tungbear2206 those engines have many problems revolving around the balance shaft. The cam timing units also seem to have issues. I am not a Mercedes guy so I can not tell you everything about those engines. But I used to work next to a Mercedes tech and they had to tear down many of those motors. Especially the first few years of production. You should probably get it looked at by a specialist.
1.9 tdi😂😂
if you just drove the car without adding any thing you would get exactly same result :) This video proofs NOTHING
We did drive the car. Put about 50 miles on it before this. I guess next time I’ll have to do a before with a long drive. Then after results. Thank you for the input.