My grandfather fought in Ww2 and is recognized as having destroyed more German airplanes than any other soldier in the war. He was the worst mechanic the luftwaffe ever had.
This film has to be my all time favourite movie because every time I used to go round my Nan and grandads house I always used to watch it and not only that it’s just an amazing movie in general
@Fightingfalconmlu94 Dude calm down, its a game lol. Don't take your emotion to it. And, there are no WW1 Planes. There's only the 30s Bi-Plane, like I-15, Gladiator, P26, He-51, etc.
My Dad said not many B-17s that tried that survived; I think he said the fire extinguishers were not very effective, and if an engine fire started, it was because the fuel line had been hit by an enemy bullet. He was a Combat Aviation Engineer; they built airfields as the ground war pushed toward Germany, very often using Marston Mats (rectangular metal plates with holes to make them lighter and to allow for water run off.) The Europeans liked to use grass runways, and it was also a matter of cost, so the Avn Egrs had to beef them up b/c the P-47 weight was about 8 tons at full load takeoff, and would sink into the dirt if it was at all wet (they had 8 .50 cal MGs, the most of any fighter, but ruinous when strafing, and 8 runs of ammo, often 2x500 lb bombs, and maybe a drop tank for a long flight. P-47 was a flying tank. Daddy of the A-10 in concept.
Yeah; high risk maneuver and even if it did work, you would wind up as a sitting duck at low altitude, way out the formation and beyond the aid of the escorts.
russell brown exactly. It was not cool to fly low and weave up and over trees and hills, like a more maneuverable fighter could do. That B-17 or 24 was not exactly built for pylon racing, and was awfully easy for an enemy fighter to hit with its mg's or cannon. The last resort, especially if they had a lot of badly wounded on board, was to decide to surrender, which they signified by dropping their landing gear over enemy territory; the Germans would then come up along side them, and escort them to the nearest airfield. Before they landed, the crew would have to destroy any classified material (e.g.,, the Norden bombsight (they were made in Norwalk, CT, just 20 miles or so south on I-95 from my hometown in CT); they had one spot in the case where the Bombardier could fire a shot with his .45 acp Colt M1911 pistol (the Bombardier was personally responsible for that sight; unless he was terribly wounded or dead, he had to wreck it to keep it out of enemy hands) and that would usually wreck the insides of the sight.). However, if you did that, and changed your mind and pulled your wheels back up, then the Germans would give no quarter to anyone else from your Wing who did that afterward. That happened, and it was not a pretty thing to let happen. If you surrendered, that was it. No games.
daddy of the a 10 was the german ju 87g stuka kanonenvogel pal ,, the ride of rudel he killed more than 500 tanks with the g and its 37 mm guns so check your data
Your dad was propably right about the diving manoeuvre. More than likely it would not have worked. My dad flew 35 combat missions in a B-24 and had to bail out twice. I did my time and survived an ambush. Good luck must be in the genes
Fun fact. An airspeed indicator takes the combination of pitot (ram) and static air pressures to give a reading. Since the glass is broken on the airspeed indicator… the static air pressure is replaced by ambient air pressure in the cockpit (a common way that is taught to counter a blocked static port is to break the glass of the vertical speed indicator.. as it’s not an essential instrument). Many planes have an alternate static port that is inside the cockpit. There is also a chart of alternate airspeeds which are usually lower. Also.. even though the B-17 is unpressurized (especially this B-17) there will be a lag in the pressure inside vs outside as you dive. Meaning that this plane was not only exceeding maximum speed… but _greatly_ exceeding maximum speed.
Bomber crews had about a 3% chance of surviving their tour of duty early in the war If you're going to die you might as well look good when you walk into heaven
I and two other friends flew on a B17. Before we boarded, the crew chief said "put these (hearing protection) on or you'll be hearing these engines tonight when you go to bed". Us: "there's a problem with that?" Crew chief just smiled, knowingly...
This movie made my grandfather not-so-happy. My great grandfather was a B-17 pilot in the 8th AF, he actually served with these guys. Until they got the missions. In 1943, the 8th AF needed to boost moral. So they chose quite a few B-17's, gave them around five escort squadrons, and sent them on 3 hour missions with little if not no fighter at all. This made my great grandfather angry, he was going on eight hour missions with up to 100 Luftwaffe fighters and only one squadron for escort. He watched his men die, unlike the belle and their milk runs. Then this movie came out years later. He watched it, and he was MAD. first of all, they where hardly allowed to talk, and in this they are having full conversations. Second they even got what they had to WEAR wrong. They would dress way warmer than this, not to mention that they had to wear their helmets the entire time! They also continuously in the movie would take their oxygen masks off. IRL they would have them on from the moment they took off, to the moment they landed. Plus just everything in the movie was very unrealistic. He was mad that they became the hero's when he and his squadron (he was a squadron leader) where doing the real work. And after hearing his account I agree. I think they need to stop putting so much Hollywood into WW2 movies. And I agree that that wasn't fair to him and the rest of the 8th AF that had to go on the hard missions.
hmmm well I learned alot from this movie !!! And of course actors cant wear the masks thru the whole movie its just not possible and it is done is SO many movies , because we cannot see the actors or their facial expression DOESNT Make the movie bad. Also if there was no talking well then there is no movie. To tell the story of this amazing accomplishment there has to be talking. I love this movie since the day it came out and will watch it again very shortly AND as I said I had no idea about this mission or missions or anything to do with the bombers etc so for me this movie was VERY WELL DONE ! The cast was top notch too!
The nation needed every psychological victory we could get at the time. The 8th had 82% losses at the time when the crew made it over in 1942, daylight bombing was bleak and many wondered if it could actually work and were considering transitioning to low-precision night bombing. The Belle did not do milk runs for her entire 25 missions, she had a few milk runs but every squadron and group did. If you actually go and look at her mission list, you can see that those were not by any means milk runs. Her final mission was on the sub pins in Lorient, a heavily guarded base surrounded by flak and fighter bases. Her 24th mission was on Williamshaven, a heavily defended area due to its necessity to the Kriegsmarine. If you think these boys got out of something, they didn't, they got lucky, and they were an anomaly. Many also volunteered to go back to Europe or the Pacific and Morgan flew the first mission on Tokyo since the Doolittle raid.
The optical effects have aged pretty badly in this film but the way the interior shots are done and blended are convincing enough for me to not even really notice too much.
Imagine guys in your high school graduating class flying one of these bombers. Ten kids with just enough time in the air to find their way to the target. ME 109s being flown by seasoned fighter pilots coming in from every direction pumping 20 MM cannon fire into your 17 from nose to tail. Flak bursts black and deadly scattering white hot shrapnel in one side of your plane and out the other. Gunners ripped to shreds, your co-pilot taking a direct blast of flak through his side of the windshield slumping over dead against the controls. Two engines bursting into flames, a third blown away from the aircraft, spiraling down through the clouds. Your aircraft slowly rolling over and entering a nose dive from 25 thousand feet which you cannot escape.
This is a small thing, but my 1944 most of the German Pilots were far from seasoned, as the vetren pilots were either dead or spread all over the Eastern and western front
Braedon Hale I suppose you're right. Seasoned fighter pilots are a rare breed in any Air Force And heavy bombers are relatively easy targets given the weight they carried and the very young and green crews that flew them. 19 year old command pilots were common and non commissioned crew members as young as 18 made up the bulk of the crew count. Ten kids went to,war in each bomber. A flight of one hundred B-17s would commonly suffer 50%' losses which adds up to 500 crew men killed. These were unacceptable losses for daytime squadrons.
actually its the closest sound they have to the "death scream" when planes such as b-17s where shot down and where nose diving the plane would create a sound like the stuka as it either got ripped apart or crashed
Ashton Oropeza yes really, this is not correct in the movie the plane would not make that noise stukas make that noise with a small prop on the landing gear to intimidate ground troops
In real life they didn't. They were nowhere near the 324th Bomb Squadron, and it was coincidence that the movie was shot this way. Her (the Belle) last mission was May 1943, and the 99th fighter squadron was activated in and saw its first combat in June of 43' in Italy. It wouldn't be a notable air to air fighter attack squadron until late 44 and then again in March of 45'.
I don't know about you all, but I am eagerly awaiting Steven Spielberg's, "Masters of the Air" based on the book about the 8th Air Force B-17 bomber squadrons over Europe. After watching Band of Brothers and the Pacific, this next project has me just as excited as when Memphis Belle initially came out on HBO!
Я всегда уважал и буду уважать американцев. Они были настоящими союзниками в той войне. I have always respected and will respect Americans. They were real allies in that war.
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Memphis Belle to group! We're gonna have to dive to put out this fire! Wingsman, you lead plane now! Everybody, hang on!
My father and the brave crew of "kids"crash landed a B-17 on fire in a wheat field in Italy.They tried diving to put out the fire out but it wouldn't go out.They were able to get out of Germany where they had been shot up pretty good.They all walked away.Thank God!!Heck they were all just Kids My father was born March of 1922.He died at 86 in 2008 with a picture of a B-17 on the wall nearby.Sure do miss him!.
CalmDwelling it could take a lot of punishment and still fly home even if damaged it's amazing the photos I have seen with the amount of damage they've received the engines shot up holes in the fuselage the wings burnt through the nose cone gone it's amazing how they got back home to base
Hmmm.... so B-17's were fitted with Stuka dive sirens? Interesting. Yeah, I know... it's the same sound they always use for diving planes. And yeah, I get it... this was 30 years ago.
It's amazing all that damage done to the movie Memphis Belle, but never happened to the real one. I got to touch it a couple years ago in the Air Force museum in Dayton.
B-17 Takes a licking and still gets our boys home....... Memphis Belle. American Strong..... Bless them for their gallant service in the face of danger. We thank the crew for their service.
Growing up up in the 1960s, I met all of my Dad’s law partners, and friends. Towson Maryland, so many of them were WWII pilots I had no idea as a child… they just did the “Show me your quick draw…” They show’d me about antique coins, how to behave. We need more of that these days. Funny thing, turns out, they were all WWII pilots.
They were indeed the Hispano HA-1112 Buchons (most of them are a Merlin powered 109 variant built in spain, earlier ones had other engines).. they are actually quite famouse becuase they have portrayed 109s in a lot of aerial WW2 related movies (Battle of Britain, Tuskeege airmen, here, Dunkirk)
I love it when movie creators add sound effects that aren't supposed to be added like the Stuka dive bomber when the aircraft dived down it made a screeching sound that's only on the Stuka dive bomber which is German
Correction: This is Historical Fiction based on a real bombing raid (The fiction part is that the airplane known as the Memphis Belle never actually flew in real combat).
"We got to do something quick or we're going to lose that wing, we gotta dive, alright but I'm going to need your help to pull out of it, I'm not going anywhere, Memphis Belle to group, we're going to have to dive to put out this fire, wingman, your lead plane now, everybody, hold on"
In reality the Memphis bell was not touched and there was no loss of life no injuries. Also the entire crew would be wearing metal helmets when they entered enemy territory. Yelling on the radio was an absolute no all of them were incredibly professional and kept their calm Is during the mission.
Actually the B-17 and B-24's were not easy to bring down. German Ace Adolf Galland and a few other point out that. Galland witnessed a lone B-17 shoot down 3 BF-109's on it's own. They did shoot the B-17 down but it just takes a lot of ammo unless you place hits in the right areas. which is easily said then done. German Ace Mayer was damaged a few times by B-17's and noted that only half of the German Fighter pilots in 1943 were actually very well trained. the other half was making stupid mistakes or getting killed. one mistake being they would hang on the tail of a B-17 for to long. Which made a great target for the Ball Turret Gunner and the Tail Gunner to shoot the enemy plane to pieces. A lot of B-17 and 24's do have their fair share of Air Kills.
@CaptHawkeye the germans were able to stay out of their 50 cal range and use their 20mm cannons and rockets against formations. They were called "flying fortress" before the war and when they got into bombing they realized they needed more guns on it. The B17 is a compromise. The Lancaster could carry twice the amount of bombs but has less armaments. The B-17 suffered heavy losses the 100th bomber group was called the bloody 100th. 30% of the crew made it to 24 missions
People laughing about the Stuka sound when its diving, the thing is yeah your right that does sound like a stuka lol but diving in a B17 would make a similar sound just more deeper maybe not as high pitch, its just the sound effect in this movie for this scene is rather poor and sounds like a stuka lol but that sound comes from the tips of the propellers, any propeller aircraft will make that noise at a certain speed, its the tips of the propeller that have broke the sound barrier and it makes that whine noise, stukas had small proppellers fitted to the air frame which sound like this here, its so when they dive for psycological reasons it terrified people hearing that noise coming in from a stuka dive bombing
This clip starts with a Me-109 (or Bf-109 if you prefer) firing at the Memphis Belle. In the clip you see guns firing from INSIDE the wings of the German fighter. This is unfortunately a mistake, not caught by the historical editors. The Me-109 in the scene is supposed to represent a 'G' variant. The last Me-109 to carry guns or cannons inside the wings was the 'E' variant used in 1939-1940, and sometimes as late as mid-1941. Starting in 1941 the F, G & K variants were armed as follows: Guns only on cowling top, in prop spinner & in under-wing gondolas; No guns inside wings. This is a common error of many movies & clips of WW2 .
in reality it never happened to the Belle, she returned without a scratch.. all engines running strong. this film is complete shite and in my option disrespectful.
This is one of my all time favorite movies! The effects are not great obviously but I love the story line and John Lithgow's part. Really would love to see this redone in a "Saving Private Ryan" type cinematography, and modern effects.
It is shocking to me that this movie did not win a single academy award or any other major award for that matter. Not surprising I guess, those movie insiders are all critics.
My grandfather was a long-range gunner in this war. But while he was alive, he poured himself soup with only one ladle. This ladle was made of Messerschmidt aluminum. Now I would give a lot to know the details of this duel of a long-range artelist and Messerschmidt.
Please, no. In remake, Memphis Belle gunners will shoot down entire Luftwaffe. Greyhound and Fury were movies, where we were laughing in cinema. Its pity that Fury producers have real Tiger tank for filming - with most stupid crew of WW2, closing distance when have advantage of superior firepower.
A quote from Sir Max Hastings in his book "Chastise"....... "By September 1944 RAF Bomber Command was able to rain down on German cities more bombs in a 24 hour period then the Luftwaffe dropped on Great Britain during the whole of the Blitz of 1940 - 41" ............. I think what the Americans dropped was the icing on the cake.
You did not want to help Poland in 1939, now you have it. The enemy has strengthened and you need to engage more forces to defeat him. It is a pity that so many people had to die. It was possible to prevent this already at the very beginning of the war.
The Memphis Belle sits at a field in Florida now. The owners had to give her up. Shes a victim of buearocrats. The insurance on them now is ungodly high since the crash of 9-0-9. The only way she may fly again is local government buys her to foot the bill and let the volunteers operate it. Thats hte only way these warbirds will continue to fly. Once the 100th year anniversary of the end of ww2 passes should they perhaps be grounded for good.
Can you imagine how absolutely terrified these young guys must have been, fighting for our freedom. And now their great grandchildren walk around with purple hair, tattoos and piercing all over, whining about micro agressions and fascist teachers, hiding in their save spaces.
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>Plane has to dive
>random stuka siren sound
Everytime.
>No one cares
>Move is still the best
Every time.
One of the best movies ever. I watched this in November 94 at an IMAX theater while in A.F. basic training. Great actors, truly great.
Hell, they had Billy Zane before he was known as the villian in Titanic.
My grandfather fought in Ww2 and is recognized as having destroyed more German airplanes than any other soldier in the war. He was the worst mechanic the luftwaffe ever had.
lmao
typical german ancestor haha
God bless him
That was funny. Not true of course, but funny. (Everyone of course knows that the Germans have no bad mechanics.)
They had us in the first half not gona lie.
"Hey gunner, why is our B-17 equipped with dive sirens?"
But the gear is up
"Our bombs our out, so were gonna crash into that Whirbelwind that killed us earlier"
It’s not that’s just the sound of the propellors with max rpm because of the speed
@@Zifnyz The siren noise is that of a JU87 Stuka dive bomber.
That’s what I was wondering, also why do the BF-109s have the Jericho trumpet too?
I watched this movie with my father 25 years ago and with my sons 1 year ago. A movie that shows what friendship and responsibility are.
and mass murder.
@@nickglenister3832 lol😂
"You won't get out...not when it dives at 300 knots..."
I'm surprised "The Memphis Belle" pulled out of it and landed. I would love to go to the museum and see the restored plane.
nice
There is a beast deep inside you... it will not die! It will fight back!
@@ditto9300 /watch?v=2Wi1ajGlpls
Sylvester Birchem yeah same here and they have this plane used in the movie it usually flies at airshows known as “the movie memphis belle”
This film has to be my all time favourite movie because every time I used to go round my Nan and grandads house I always used to watch it and not only that it’s just an amazing movie in general
Litterally the exact same 👍
Now if only the B-17 held up like this in War Thunder.
@Fightingfalconmlu94 its a game
IKR
@Fightingfalconmlu94 Dude calm down LMAO
@Fightingfalconmlu94 dude same for some reason when you cut fuel from a wing and feather it nothing happens it just keeps burning on
@Fightingfalconmlu94 Dude calm down, its a game lol. Don't take your emotion to it.
And, there are no WW1 Planes. There's only the 30s Bi-Plane, like I-15, Gladiator, P26, He-51, etc.
Turns out every plane in Hollywood becomes a Ju 87 when it dives
true
Ha! For real!
it is only to give emotion
But the gear is up
@@blueblox_yt1536 no no he has a point
That damn Stuka is hanging with the Memphis quite good...
ahhahaha I get it. funny.
@@dannyjo1253 Can you explain me ?
@@dotista2008 the siren sound effect when the plane dives is a siren found only on the stuka, a german dive bomber
@@josiahstankus4193 Having heard a B17 engines, yes the stuka siren was ridiculous but at least they had real B17 engine sounds other than that lol
@@JamesB21a : Yeah me to. Also every jet fighter, "has" to be in afterburner.
My Dad said not many B-17s that tried that survived; I think he said the fire extinguishers were not very effective, and if an engine fire started, it was because the fuel line had been hit by an enemy bullet. He was a Combat Aviation Engineer; they built airfields as the ground war pushed toward Germany, very often using Marston Mats (rectangular metal plates with holes to make them lighter and to allow for water run off.) The Europeans liked to use grass runways, and it was also a matter of cost, so the Avn Egrs had to beef them up b/c the P-47 weight was about 8 tons at full load takeoff, and would sink into the dirt if it was at all wet (they had 8 .50 cal MGs, the most of any fighter, but ruinous when strafing, and 8 runs of ammo, often 2x500 lb bombs, and maybe a drop tank for a long flight. P-47 was a flying tank. Daddy of the A-10 in concept.
Yeah; high risk maneuver and even if it did work, you would wind up as a sitting duck at low altitude, way out the formation and beyond the aid of the escorts.
russell brown exactly. It was not cool to fly low and weave up and over trees and hills, like a more maneuverable fighter could do. That B-17 or 24 was not exactly built for pylon racing, and was awfully easy for an enemy fighter to hit with its mg's or cannon. The last resort, especially if they had a lot of badly wounded on board, was to decide to surrender, which they signified by dropping their landing gear over enemy territory; the Germans would then come up along side them, and escort them to the nearest airfield. Before they landed, the crew would have to destroy any classified material (e.g.,, the Norden bombsight (they were made in Norwalk, CT, just 20 miles or so south on I-95 from my hometown in CT); they had one spot in the case where the Bombardier could fire a shot with his .45 acp Colt M1911 pistol (the Bombardier was personally responsible for that sight; unless he was terribly wounded or dead, he had to wreck it to keep it out of enemy hands) and that would usually wreck the insides of the sight.). However, if you did that, and changed your mind and pulled your wheels back up, then the Germans would give no quarter to anyone else from your Wing who did that afterward. That happened, and it was not a pretty thing to let happen. If you surrendered, that was it. No games.
The Germans ended up flying a number of captured American bombers, mainly to develop fighter tactics and other ways of shooting them down.
daddy of the a 10 was the german ju 87g stuka kanonenvogel pal ,, the ride of rudel he killed more than 500 tanks with the g and its 37 mm guns so check your data
Your dad was propably right about the diving manoeuvre. More than likely it would not have worked. My dad flew 35 combat missions in a B-24 and had to bail out twice. I did my time and survived an ambush. Good luck must be in the genes
Fun fact.
An airspeed indicator takes the combination of pitot (ram) and static air pressures to give a reading.
Since the glass is broken on the airspeed indicator… the static air pressure is replaced by ambient air pressure in the cockpit (a common way that is taught to counter a blocked static port is to break the glass of the vertical speed indicator.. as it’s not an essential instrument).
Many planes have an alternate static port that is inside the cockpit. There is also a chart of alternate airspeeds which are usually lower. Also.. even though the B-17 is unpressurized (especially this B-17) there will be a lag in the pressure inside vs outside as you dive.
Meaning that this plane was not only exceeding maximum speed… but _greatly_ exceeding maximum speed.
The old days. When men wore nice hats in combat and Billy Zane had hair.
Bomber Pilots, Naval Officers, and NCO's were the only servicemen in the American military who were likely to wear hats in battle
The old days, where everything was just better in general!
Bold of you to assume men don't want to wear these on a daily basis
Lol when Billy Zane was still acting. After Titanic, I don't know what happened to him
Bomber crews had about a 3% chance of surviving their tour of duty early in the war
If you're going to die you might as well look good when you walk into heaven
Recently went up in a b17 for a tour flight, probably the coolest thing I’ve ever done
I and two other friends flew on a B17. Before we boarded, the crew chief said "put these (hearing protection) on or you'll be hearing these engines tonight when you go to bed".
Us: "there's a problem with that?"
Crew chief just smiled, knowingly...
Francais
This movie made my grandfather not-so-happy.
My great grandfather was a B-17 pilot in the 8th AF, he actually served with these guys. Until they got the missions.
In 1943, the 8th AF needed to boost moral. So they chose quite a few B-17's, gave them around five escort squadrons, and sent them on 3 hour missions with little if not no fighter at all. This made my great grandfather angry, he was going on eight hour missions with up to 100 Luftwaffe fighters and only one squadron for escort. He watched his men die, unlike the belle and their milk runs. Then this movie came out years later. He watched it, and he was MAD. first of all, they where hardly allowed to talk, and in this they are having full conversations. Second they even got what they had to WEAR wrong. They would dress way warmer than this, not to mention that they had to wear their helmets the entire time! They also continuously in the movie would take their oxygen masks off. IRL they would have them on from the moment they took off, to the moment they landed. Plus just everything in the movie was very unrealistic. He was mad that they became the hero's when he and his squadron (he was a squadron leader) where doing the real work. And after hearing his account I agree. I think they need to stop putting so much Hollywood into WW2 movies. And I agree that that wasn't fair to him and the rest of the 8th AF that had to go on the hard missions.
R/overdramatic
hmmm well I learned alot from this movie !!! And of course actors cant wear the masks thru the whole movie its just not possible and it is done is SO many movies , because we cannot see the actors or their facial expression DOESNT Make the movie bad. Also if there was no talking well then there is no movie. To tell the story of this amazing accomplishment there has to be talking. I love this movie since the day it came out and will watch it again very shortly AND as I said I had no idea about this mission or missions or anything to do with the bombers etc so for me this movie was VERY WELL DONE ! The cast was top notch too!
The nation needed every psychological victory we could get at the time. The 8th had 82% losses at the time when the crew made it over in 1942, daylight bombing was bleak and many wondered if it could actually work and were considering transitioning to low-precision night bombing. The Belle did not do milk runs for her entire 25 missions, she had a few milk runs but every squadron and group did. If you actually go and look at her mission list, you can see that those were not by any means milk runs. Her final mission was on the sub pins in Lorient, a heavily guarded base surrounded by flak and fighter bases. Her 24th mission was on Williamshaven, a heavily defended area due to its necessity to the Kriegsmarine. If you think these boys got out of something, they didn't, they got lucky, and they were an anomaly. Many also volunteered to go back to Europe or the Pacific and Morgan flew the first mission on Tokyo since the Doolittle raid.
It's a movie, not a documentary or instructional video.
Aw boohoo. Complaining about a movie made for your entertainment. I bet you complain that video games aren't realistic
The optical effects have aged pretty badly in this film but the way the interior shots are done and blended are convincing enough for me to not even really notice too much.
Imagine guys in your high school graduating class flying one of these bombers. Ten kids with just enough time in the air to find their way to the target. ME 109s being flown by seasoned fighter pilots coming in from every direction pumping 20 MM cannon fire into your 17 from nose to tail. Flak bursts black and deadly scattering white hot shrapnel in one side of your plane and out the other. Gunners ripped to shreds, your co-pilot taking a direct blast of flak through his side of the windshield slumping over dead against the controls. Two engines bursting into flames, a third blown away from the aircraft, spiraling down through the clouds. Your aircraft slowly rolling over and entering a nose dive from 25 thousand feet which you cannot escape.
This is a small thing, but my 1944 most of the German Pilots were far from seasoned, as the vetren pilots were either dead or spread all over the Eastern and western front
Braedon Hale I suppose you're right. Seasoned fighter pilots are a rare breed in any Air Force And heavy bombers are relatively easy targets given the weight they carried and the very young and green crews that flew them. 19 year old command pilots were common and non commissioned crew members as young as 18 made up the bulk of the crew count. Ten kids went to,war in each bomber. A flight of one hundred B-17s would commonly suffer 50%' losses which adds up to 500 crew men killed. These were unacceptable losses for daytime squadrons.
Glad to see this scene is as amazing as it was the first time round.
Stuka dive. Bombing
My Dad had to makes this maneuver. Lost 3 engines and ditched in the North Sea. All survived and rescued by British Royal Patrol.
I call this movie “Sounds of Stuka”
Almost every single film that had a plane coming down used the Stuka Siren sound for dramatic effect, so this film is just one of 100+
actually its the closest sound they have to the "death scream" when planes such as b-17s where shot down and where nose diving the plane would create a sound like the stuka as it either got ripped apart or crashed
Oh bite me project it’s Hollywood omg they missed this one detail stfu
@@Dobermann89-dr2rc no, I don’t think I will
Okay cupcake
My uncle got killed in a similar situation. One of gunners on board was able to bail out to live and tell the story. RIP
@@wherebanana8585 yo, show some R E S P E C T
No power steering on this baby.
Ain't that the truth. Just cables and pure muscle.
Power steering was about 7 years away
two more long stages, im fed up with this car
B17 sound like Stuka
😂😂😂😂
Not really
LMAO!!! Stevan that was a good one.
Ashton Oropeza yes really, this is not correct in the movie the plane would not make that noise stukas make that noise with a small prop on the landing gear to intimidate ground troops
Yeah but they made it slower
Those bomber crewmembers where ABSOLUTE heroes!!! All of them.
I'm sure Billy Zane will be glad to hear it.
I cant tell you how many times I referenced this movie when I would plan a B-17 in war thunder, wish it was still a fun game
Love this movie!!!!!!!!!!!! It was so cool to learn that the Redtails escorted them on the bomb runs
In real life they didn't. They were nowhere near the 324th Bomb Squadron, and it was coincidence that the movie was shot this way. Her (the Belle) last mission was May 1943, and the 99th fighter squadron was activated in and saw its first combat in June of 43' in Italy. It wouldn't be a notable air to air fighter attack squadron until late 44 and then again in March of 45'.
This is one of my favourite movies growing up! Might watch it again when Remembrance Day is around the corner
Same! Are you in the Armed Forces by any chance? Couldn't help but notice your profile picture haha
Thanks for the warning!
I don't know about you all, but I am eagerly awaiting Steven Spielberg's, "Masters of the Air" based on the book about the 8th Air Force B-17 bomber squadrons over Europe. After watching Band of Brothers and the Pacific, this next project has me just as excited as when Memphis Belle initially came out on HBO!
100%. Will be a great trilogy
I hope they dispel this idea that fighters were meant to protect the bombers. They were there to destroy the Luftwaffe, and the bombers were bait.
Is that bomber actually moving
Yes the famous stuka siren on every diving warplane in existance
I watched this movie so much as a kid that I knew just about the entire script😁
I’m glad I Stuka round for this video
Typical Hollywood dramatization. In real life, the Memphis Belle flew its 25th mission without a hitch and no one was wounded.
Hells Angel B17 did more missions before the Memphis Belle but Christian’s didn’t like the idea of that aircraft being idolised.
I just love when movies use the ju 87 siren as a falling plane sound
Out of nowhere in the calls you hear in a loud voice "THEIR A HOLE IN YOUR RIGHT WING'
Я всегда уважал и буду уважать американцев. Они были настоящими союзниками в той войне. I have always respected and will respect Americans. They were real allies in that war.
Memphis Belle to group! We're gonna have to dive to put out this fire! Wingsman, you lead plane now! Everybody, hang on!
Lucas Martínez Parra how could the pilot speak to the rest of the bombers?
@@KieranFitzs It was before the Memphis Belle goes to dive to put out the fire.
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My father and the brave crew of "kids"crash landed a B-17 on fire in a wheat field in Italy.They tried diving to put out the fire out but it wouldn't go out.They were able to get out of Germany where they had been shot up pretty good.They all walked away.Thank God!!Heck they were all just Kids My father was born March of 1922.He died at 86 in 2008 with a picture of a B-17 on the wall nearby.Sure do miss him!.
Jesus Christ, the effects in this movie are actually amazing.
About 85% of the comment section is about people ranting about a B-17 with a Stuka siren
Este foi o melhor filme de guerra q eu assisti. Foram cinco vezes... inesquecível.
Nome amigo
It's amazing how some came home with the damage they received
There is a very good reason the B-17 was called the "Flying Fortress"
I suppose it so well built and a good design and four good engines apart from being so well armed ( you may know other wise)
Exactly that. It was a flying tank with a very sturdy airframe.
it was actually called a flying fortress because of the amount of guns that it had
CalmDwelling it could take a lot of punishment and still fly home even if damaged it's amazing the photos I have seen with the amount of damage they've received the engines shot up holes in the fuselage the wings burnt through the nose cone gone it's amazing how they got back home to base
I love how they used Stuka sounds
10g overload: wing snap
Bruh my 19PT anyways does this. Fine one moment, I pull an 11G turn for a bit too long and PIAK, wing gone and so is 14,500 SL.
The cockpit got shot and somehow those pilots were perfectly fine.
"There's a fire in number four!"
Engine 1 went out, don't tell me that was deleted.
Actually in aviation that was engine 3 that went out
Yea
Germans was probably think that this B-17 falling to ground 😁
Hmmm.... so B-17's were fitted with Stuka dive sirens? Interesting.
Yeah, I know... it's the same sound they always use for diving planes. And yeah, I get it... this was 30 years ago.
My dad was a top turrets gunner in a b17 during world War ll he did several missions over japan
It's amazing all that damage done to the movie Memphis Belle, but never happened to the real one. I got to touch it a couple years ago in the Air Force museum in Dayton.
But what they portrayed happened to it actually happened to many other bombers.
B-17 Takes a licking and still gets our boys home....... Memphis Belle. American Strong..... Bless them for their gallant service in the face of danger. We thank the crew for their service.
I bet in the US the Belle is the most famous WWII bomber because of this movie...and for many people probably the only bomber name they know.
ah yes the classic stuka b 17
Growing up up in the 1960s, I met all of my Dad’s law partners, and friends. Towson Maryland, so many of them were WWII pilots I had no idea as a child… they just did the “Show me your quick draw…”
They show’d me about antique coins, how to behave.
We need more of that these days.
Funny thing, turns out, they were all WWII pilots.
Very influential movie on my younger self :)
Same here
The 109's look like those spanish built jobs
That's because they are
They probably are
They are what they had then.
They were indeed the Hispano HA-1112 Buchons (most of them are a Merlin powered 109 variant built in spain, earlier ones had other engines).. they are actually quite famouse becuase they have portrayed 109s in a lot of aerial WW2 related movies (Battle of Britain, Tuskeege airmen, here, Dunkirk)
No one:
Hollywood whenever a plane dives: Stuka sound
I love it when movie creators add sound effects that aren't supposed to be added like the Stuka dive bomber when the aircraft dived down it made a screeching sound that's only on the Stuka dive bomber which is German
Had to do the same thing once in my truck when the brakes caught fire coming down Pacheco Pass. Just speed up to put out the flames.
Pure fiction...Memphis Belle was never seriously damaged, and only wounded crewman was the tail gunner with a "scratch."
sillyone52062 how they got menphes belle home was a tail pach and a wing
Dramatic effect
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Correction: This is Historical Fiction based on a real bombing raid (The fiction part is that the airplane known as the Memphis Belle never actually flew in real combat).
1:33 Trust me, i'm an engineer!
Me in war thunder when my engines catches on fire lmao
"We got to do something quick or we're going to lose that wing, we gotta dive, alright but I'm going to need your help to pull out of it, I'm not going anywhere, Memphis Belle to group, we're going to have to dive to put out this fire, wingman, your lead plane now, everybody, hold on"
I never seen a video this good👍
The precise definition of emulate
My grandfather was a B29.
In reality the Memphis bell was not touched and there was no loss of life no injuries. Also the entire crew would be wearing metal helmets when they entered enemy territory. Yelling on the radio was an absolute no all of them were incredibly professional and kept their calm Is during the mission.
Ngl, this old films are beautiful
The guys on the other plane: NOOOOOO WE LOST ANOTHER PLANE
@Kreigh Lucas ik but still.
Yeah - I would still prefer to fly on the Memphis Belle then Ryanair.
At least you get free tomato soup.
@@twentyrothmans7308 Yeah - And when the USAF say they are going to Berlin - they go to Berlin not 20 miles and a 1 hour bus ride away :-)
My Grandpa fly a FW190 and fight 1944 over Germany . He tell to me, B17 was the hell for German fighters.
Hartwig Knoche did he also fight P51?
Hartwig Knoche lol b17s were roadkill
Actually the B-17 and B-24's were not easy to bring down. German Ace Adolf Galland and a few other point out that.
Galland witnessed a lone B-17 shoot down 3 BF-109's on it's own. They did shoot the B-17 down but it just takes a lot of ammo unless you place hits in the right areas. which is easily said then done.
German Ace Mayer was damaged a few times by B-17's and noted that only half of the German Fighter pilots in 1943 were actually very well trained. the other half was making stupid mistakes or getting killed. one mistake being they would hang on the tail of a B-17 for to long. Which made a great target for the Ball Turret Gunner and the Tail Gunner to shoot the enemy plane to pieces.
A lot of B-17 and 24's do have their fair share of Air Kills.
@Carlton Evans aces? I doubt that. The 100th air force used B-17 and only 30% of the crew made it to 24 missions.
@CaptHawkeye the germans were able to stay out of their 50 cal range and use their 20mm cannons and rockets against formations. They were called "flying fortress" before the war and when they got into bombing they realized they needed more guns on it. The B17 is a compromise. The Lancaster could carry twice the amount of bombs but has less armaments. The B-17 suffered heavy losses the 100th bomber group was called the bloody 100th. 30% of the crew made it to 24 missions
Good movie
"" Love it. ❤️ 💪
Pilot: *dives*
B-17: *stuka noises*
People laughing about the Stuka sound when its diving, the thing is yeah your right that does sound like a stuka lol but diving in a B17 would make a similar sound just more deeper maybe not as high pitch, its just the sound effect in this movie for this scene is rather poor and sounds like a stuka lol but that sound comes from the tips of the propellers, any propeller aircraft will make that noise at a certain speed, its the tips of the propeller that have broke the sound barrier and it makes that whine noise, stukas had small proppellers fitted to the air frame which sound like this here, its so when they dive for psycological reasons it terrified people hearing that noise coming in from a stuka dive bombing
This clip starts with a Me-109 (or Bf-109 if you prefer) firing at the Memphis Belle. In the clip you see guns firing from INSIDE the wings of the German fighter. This is unfortunately a mistake, not caught by the historical editors. The Me-109 in the scene is supposed to represent a 'G' variant. The last Me-109 to carry guns or cannons inside the wings was the 'E' variant used in 1939-1940, and sometimes as late as mid-1941. Starting in 1941 the F, G & K variants were armed as follows: Guns only on cowling top, in prop spinner & in under-wing gondolas; No guns inside wings. This is a common error of many movies & clips of WW2 .
It's just a movie not a documentary.
The aircraft isn’t even a 109 it’s a buchon.
In reality the plane would probably disintegrate lol
in reality it never happened to the Belle, she returned without a scratch.. all engines running strong. this film is complete shite and in my option disrespectful.
it's a real story lol
Confidencial The basis of the plane is real, the way it got shot to hell and the crew names are absolutely ficticious.
@@mikeytrains1 it's about the crew that made it to 24 missions. Maybe they didn't want their names mentioned idk
@@gailraby1722 the part I enjoyed was letter from home where you get to see actual ww2 footage.
Pilots of thunder
the pilot is Joker from Full Metal Jacket
I loved this movie back in the 90s.
Balls of steel no wonder there was a population boom following the war
This is one of my all time favorite movies! The effects are not great obviously but I love the story line and John Lithgow's part. Really would love to see this redone in a "Saving Private Ryan" type cinematography, and modern effects.
I love to see this movie
Dive that B-17 bomber as a fire extinguisher from the cloud is a genius idea
It is shocking to me that this movie did not win a single academy award or any other major award for that matter. Not surprising I guess, those movie insiders are all critics.
Should've won best picture 🖼️
My grandfather was a long-range gunner in this war. But while he was alive, he poured himself soup with only one ladle. This ladle was made of Messerschmidt aluminum. Now I would give a lot to know the details of this duel of a long-range artelist and Messerschmidt.
It's so funny to see them being shaken 🤣
1:14 when the airplane cabin start shaking
back when we americans made something worth a damn, there was the b17
The B17 was terrible lol. It as a literal death trap.
@@danaolsongaming I'm not even going to bother how wrong you are or how ignorant you sound. Please do some research.
Your ridiculous comment makes you sound very ignorant. Wow.
@danaolsongaming You literally don't understand how to use the word literal.
@@blarneyserver1504 lol it's called colloquialism but try again.
A remake of this with good acting and effects as seen in Greyhound would be wonderful.
Doesn’t need a remake
No thanks Greyhound was more Star Wars than a WW2 movie
@@Ben-zj6nm "Masters of the Air (2021)", sounds like the remake
@@gnza2012 uh oh
Please, no. In remake, Memphis Belle gunners will shoot down entire Luftwaffe. Greyhound and Fury were movies, where we were laughing in cinema. Its pity that Fury producers have real Tiger tank for filming - with most stupid crew of WW2, closing distance when have advantage of superior firepower.
A quote from Sir Max Hastings in his book "Chastise"....... "By September 1944 RAF Bomber Command was able to rain down on German cities more bombs in a 24 hour period then the Luftwaffe dropped on Great Britain during the whole of the Blitz of 1940 - 41" ............. I think what the Americans dropped was the icing on the cake.
TIL that a B-17 sounds like a Ju-87 when diving.
You did not want to help Poland in 1939, now you have it. The enemy has strengthened and you need to engage more forces to defeat him. It is a pity that so many people had to die. It was possible to prevent this already at the very beginning of the war.
I did this on War Thunder ripped my wing clean off
My dad's cousin was also air force shot down over Germany he was never recovered
The Memphis Belle sits at a field in Florida now. The owners had to give her up. Shes a victim of buearocrats. The insurance on them now is ungodly high since the crash of 9-0-9. The only way she may fly again is local government buys her to foot the bill and let the volunteers operate it. Thats hte only way these warbirds will continue to fly. Once the 100th year anniversary of the end of ww2 passes should they perhaps be grounded for good.
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Can you imagine how absolutely terrified these young guys must have been, fighting for our freedom. And now their great grandchildren walk around with purple hair, tattoos and piercing all over, whining about micro agressions and fascist teachers, hiding in their save spaces.
Calm your faux outrage, sounds like you need a safe space yourself...
Yes, it's truly sad.
Freedom is self destruction
I thought they fought so their descendants would have an easier life than they did.
@@rocketguardian2001 but not to waste that life...
Didn't know the B-17 was a "Dive Bomber''!!