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I've never heard a black man say I need my woman to have weave or wig. What if its black men saying I like your hair natural but I also want it taken care of. Just as black women want their man's hair kept.
I also think we as people need to be aware of each other as we occupy space in society. We are stuck in a battle of trying to one up another and not uniting. Are fights may be slightly different but we still in the same space.
This conversation was enjoyable to listen to but it’s the same format that all of these conversations are based on. All the women in the room are unmarried and/or divorced and some have children. With all due respect, none of them are qualified to speak on what makes a good relationship. Even the “MatchMaker” is unmarried. You need to get women of the same age as these women who are married and have been married, in one marriage for 15 years or more and watch how drastically the conversation changes. These are the women that are successful in relationships and can therefore speak to said success.
It’s crazy how powerful social media is. She 100 percent believes women are top earners in households vs men, despite statistical data. Adding to it, she tried to deflect and say, maybe in your situation. Absolutely mind blowing.
Totally, they just said most women want a man that earns more than them lol. It's more than likely the highest earning women are single, waiting on that 0.001% man that earns more 7 figures. Also isn't there a "wage gap" that many women bring up all the time, guess it magically disappears depending on the narrative.
It’s weird how BW recently became this person that’s looking for partners that will provide them a life to do nothing. But not just a life, but a life of leisure. In our history BM and BW have always worked together, now it’s BW grinding to achieve a professional career just to find a man that can allow them to give it all up. I don’t understand that.
Count me in that bunch as well. They have accumulated student loans and other debt trying to conform to social media lifestyle narratives then want a guy to come along and shoulder all that baggage so she can not work or live a life of leisure. They don't want to do any work in the relationship. Good Luck to these ladies, Enjoy the Race to the bottom.
They don't say this out loud enough to understand how ridiculous it sounds. How does someone make 5 million and wanna date someone making 6 figures and doesn't wanna pay for the vacation. What's the point in having that kinda money and feeling some type of way in spending the money for the trip? That's why men Don care about your money. You Don wanna spend a dime.
I think this whole is boils down to people waiting to long to date people seriously. I met my wife when I was 20 and riding the bus. We both contributed to the household when we moved in together. When I was in grad school and had internships and practicums she chipped in more because I had to work less to focus on education and we had 2 kids at the time. I'm now 33 we are about to have our 3rd child, we have a big house and my wife hasn't paid a bill in 2 years and is about to be become a stay at home mom. People gotta be willing to invest in each for the benefit of both parties because in the end a marriage is about team work and complementing each other's weaknesses with the other persons strengths.
Speaking my language. I did the same for my husband and now he takes care of our family. I haven’t needed to work full time in years and feel very blessed to have that option.
God has a plan for everyone and finding your spouse at the age of 20 is not God's plan for everyone. But please answer me this. Did you lose your virginity to your wife and did you both engage in premarital sex?
Why are BW allowed to use their past/victimhood to excuse their failures but BM are told to "get over it" when it comes to our past/things we cant control?
@viewergraze sound like more excuses and being young is no excuse for doing things you shouldn’t be doing. Yet want men to be forgiven to women who just do whatever they want and think we should tolerate the bs. It’s funny women want the ability to talk all the shit in the world about men but don’t want men to speak up about shit they go through when dealing with women. SMH.
And BW usually bring their mistakes with them that they expect BM to happily help clothe, feed, and shelter with no authority to discipline, guide, and mold to strive for their greatest potential.
@@DailyRapUpCrewsaying perspective is crazy, y’all be letting y’all guests over talk y’all and be condescending all the time🤣🤣🤣 tf gang, do yourself a favor. Look up the stats on the topics, have them available and challenge peoples perspective with the visible truth. Most of The women will still lie in y’all face every single time
As A women I can Respectfully Say Even If I Make “More” Money Than My Husband Or Become The “Breadwinner” Which shouldn’t Matter Who’s Making More As long as you’re Both Taking Care Of each Other, The MAN Is Always The Head Of Household Not Because Of Money But The Reason For Having A Family Name Is The Father’s Name. Even Different Cultures If the Dad Were To Pass Away, The Eldest Son Would Become ‘Head Of Household’ Even If The Mom Provide Financially & Does Everything Which We Know Women Are The Strong and Great Providers That Doesn’t Take That Away
I can't say this enough. Everyone doesn't have trauma (serious) or need a therapist. Stop telling people they need therapy. Not everyone needs it. People need to stop projecting themselves onto others.
@@AlexMinorwhat you said what do fucking stupid omg .. THE BLACK COMMUNITY needs to normalize therapy.. we don’t and it’s sad .. it’s nothing wrong with going to therapy
@@CyberMachine everyone doesn’t NEED it. Can it be good to have? Yes. But let’s be completely honest and practical. For most people It’s a luxury. Not a necessity.
Because if we’re being honest, the dating coaches are only matching you with their other clientele not the perfect match for you, but other people that are in her pocket
But who wants a ring from a loser? Marriage is not a badge of honor of you are married to a man who can’t provide, lies, cheats, is emotionally unavailable and sorry. Why get married to a grown boy or a king without a kingdom?
Been watching these guys but this by far has been one of the best articulated conversations. Refreshing to get adult women POV's on the same topics. Enjoyed!
This whole episode was 🧢 You have a bunch of older women in a late '30s and '40s that still haven't figured it out but out here giving advice and insight to relationships. The fact that a matter is if they would have spent just as much time on a relationship as they did on their career they would have had a better outcome.
Was this an add for her match making services or a genuine conversation for the podcast? I couldn’t tell. Anyone paying this lady 10-20k to find their match may God be with you.
The men were quick to talk over them the moment they disagreed though. Don’t get me wrong, it’s common enough to do that, but I think it’s worth noting that the men did that and it seems to be considered a feminine trait.
It could be true because black men become felons at a higher rate, goto prison at a higher rate, and graduate from college at a lower rate so black women r really starting to make more money than there partner
Shae may need to do more research on her numbers. I didn’t hear too many statistics come from her claims. 55% of black business owners are men, 37% are women and 8% are co-owned, as of 2020. In 2023, after the PPP folks fell off, those numbers went to 63% for black men, 22% of business are owned by women and 15% coed. There’s been multiple times, the women in this interview, have made numerous false claims, without backing it up. Your perspective isn’t everyone’s reality, nor it equates to the statistics. But I do love hearing their points of view and it’s interesting to listen to their experiences. Like one woman did say, “this is what I went through”.
Lol,when that subject came up,they glossed over it with the exception of the one woman stating she didn't want a drug dealer.She only didn't want one after a bad experience with at least one .The rest of the women said nothing.They love the men with those occupations. Especially when they're young, durable and ready to make bad decisions.Then after the negative consequences and babies, they want the safe, boring 9 to 5 guy.
Us black men are the most emotionally intelligent & emotionally mature people on this planet because we've been through the most. We care about others most of the time but we don't get the same treatment in return and that is a FACT. Now I'm not saying black women are not emotionally intelligent but they're definitney not as emotionally intelligent as us.
Maannn literally always catering to the needs of others while constantly being silenced and ignored emotionally, the only emotion they acknowledge from us is always the anger and rarely the love
It’s just more proof women don’t care about men’s emotions. To most of them, emotional intelligence means “you prioritize and are intelligent about MY emotions”.
@@AlexMinorDo men care about their own emotions? Do men prioritize their mental health & express how they feel? Do men go talk to professionals when they feel they have no one else to talk to?
@@R0yALtyS Let me try to answer that. Sure ,we care about our emotions. They are just not as volatile as women's. Imagine emotions as a number. 1 is despondent. 10 is exhilarated. 5 is neutral. Men usually go through their week 4,5,6. Sometimes we hit 3s and 7s. Women usually go 3,4,5,6,7 and sometimes hit 8s and 2s. So, when men hit 8, 9 (like being in love), we are surprised. Likewise, when we are overwhelmed when we hit a 3,2 (like death of a parent, or divorce). Therapy does work wonders. However, men have been conditioned from a young age to "toughen up" or "man up". Which is actually a good thing because women, as much as they claim that they desire a sensitive man, are repulsed by a crying (ergo weak) man....he can't be a good protector! Do men express how we feel? Not as a rule. But we do, if the problem is serious enough. If a man confides a problem to another man, it is serious business. Men are fixers. We are asking help from a friend to help us fix a problem. Do it is somewhat of an honor too. Btw, that's why men offer solutions when you want to talk about a problem. YOU NEED to tell him beforehand that you just want him to listen, not to try to fix it. So he can mentally put another hat on. Men are also better discussing problems when their mind is focused on something else. Like the sex he just had with you. Yes, men open up better after sex. When talking with his friend, they might be focused on drinking, fishing, or tiling the floor. I've gone to therapy after my divorce (married 30 years), which was very beneficial. But I was also at that 1,2 mark on the emotion scale. Hope that helps.
Definitely enjoyed this watch . The level of maturity displayed by these ladies are the reason I watched the entire episode. I will however point out the fact that the same women who had such great points when defining success without actually answering the question, was also the first woman to admit how important it is for her man to make money and match her grit due to the sacrifices she has had to make to get where she is. I do however feel where she is coming from. I’m just pointing out how that was the question asked in the beginning and she didn’t actually answer it rather list other types of success.
Why do women talk about wanting to be in their "feminine energy" when they're talking about normal, grown-up stuff? I mean, paying your own bills is "masculine?" Having babies is masculine? Choosing to be a single mother is not masculine. Single fathers aren't femenine when they're raising their kids. I like assertive vs masculine.
The only time you’ll get full transparency out of most women, is if you speak to them 1 on 1. Even then, you gotta drag it out of them most times. Lying, sugar coating and saying whatever will save face is the default
@@Cole57576 what are you babbling about, what comment??? It’s nothing wrong with women earning more than men if it’s a fact, but I’m guessing you don’t like correcting lies especially when it’s in your benefit.
54:15 so earlier they dismissed black mens feelings by gaslighting saying "those things happened in their past" but then say its "their experience" when it comes to hair LOL
That is a trait I believe all women share. Society has made rules for both genders, which has us socializing based on those rules. Women do need to allow men to share their emotions because it’s healthy for the relationship.
Wow. One of the best and most important informative discussion that I've ever watched in youtube and other social streams. The content that you guys/gals discussed would be applicable to all ethnicity. Kudos to the organizer and all the participants. Very dignified & objective oriented conversation, respecting each others perspectives, No attitude/diva showing personalities and more importantly cool headed and pragmatic conversation. Thank you all
I think one of the biggest opportunities of having a real conversation was missed in this. It was touched briefly, but going deeper into sacrifice. understanding that you can limit your ability to qualify for most by chasing a career so then the question becomes what is more important to you having a successful career or having a successful family. Because very few can truly do both.
49:12 A mid 30's woman who's willing to spend 25k for the possibility of finding a man isn't the pick of the liter. When you pursue money over family then try to hit a buzzer beater by hiring "match making wall service" before you lose your last egg, you know you're in for bad times.
I keep telling these brothers in the comments that these women are no different than Sukihana and Sexyy Red. The only difference is that they have degrees. The current state of black women in this country is abysmal.
and they are just as immature as the others. are they married? nope. bosses. all skrong. independent. don't need no man. none of those women are going to get married to the man they FEEL they deserve. That doctor isn't married to another doctor. a male doctor will not waste his time with her. he will get a woman who feels being a wife and mom is the greatest in the world. not a woman who thinks being a boss is the best.
Thank you for having these women on here. I do have to say 1 thing... The match maker continued to enter her personal experience to make decisions for others rather than the statics over all. I feel like SHE isn't qualified when I see she hasn't healed from her personal experiences.
Just because they are older does not mean they are more mature, if you truly listen to what they are saying, it’s the same rhetoric just with a little bit of education sprinkled on top
@@tabootabletalkpodcast I'll agree to disagree with you, because in my opinion, they seemed more agreeable and reasonable compared to the girls they normally have on their show, so that's where me and you stand apart from each other.
Great conversation yo, I like the way Dr.Harris articulated herself professionally and also to support your partner through whatever trauma they going through and everyone was respectful and I agree that we should stop using our past as an excuse on how we act or treat people in relationships both men and women
It was a breath of fresh air to have educated and beautiful women not trying to put the blame on the opposite gender while still speaking their truths.
I get what she was saying about the age difference. My husband has a daughter my age, and another about 8-10 years older than me. People automatically assumed I was going to use or take advantage of him. For all I knew, he was living on Social Security and food stamps 🤷🏽 However, he was there for me in a time of grief, taking care of me and showing me love. If not for him, I might have sent myself out of here. He may be nearly 30 years my senior, but this love is real❤✊🏽
My only question is were any of the women on the panel Married 🤔 because if not their opinions don't really matter because most men want to marry younger women.
Everytime i click on one of these vids about dating in today's society... Money always has to be the root of the conversation with women. Theirs nothing wrong with a man having a 9-5 living comfortably within his means, he'll just need to find someone that's in the same caliber and respect him for his position. That's why its difficult for alot of successful women to find men because they idolize luxurious lifestyle and materialistic things, and most men don't. It's cool to do nice things time to time for sure, but in my opinion he shouldn't be judge if he works a 9-5 and not a boss. That's not everyone's goal..
I like this panel of women. This is how communication should be. Don’t agree with everything said and they might all be super difficult in real relationships but I like the conversation.
I keep telling these brothers in the comments that these women are no different than Sexyy Red and Sukihana and Summer Walker. these ratchets just have degrees behind their names.
They dont want a Black man, Get 20 Black women in a room and tell them to hold up a card with a picture of the man they want and all 20 will have a picture of the same black man. They dont want black men they want that 1 black man that everybody else want. and what happens is they simply wait their turn.
lol. Respectfully, 20 BM are going to hold up a picture of the same type of women that everybody else wants as well. The sister wasn't lying when she spoke to nonBM preferring natural BW over BM. ❤
A very insightful and informative dialogue. I enjoyed the exchange between the panelists, the difference in options indicates the uniqueness among people. However, during the podcast, I noticed some commonalities like, how they dealt with statistics vs emotions; and marriage vs career. Overall great podcast. Gents, great energy.
S/O to The Daily Wrap Up Crew as well as the guests. I like the way Eli stood on business when the ladies were giving him pushback about black men vs black women as far as income. The relationship counselor and college educated women have valid points.
These women are better at presenting which makes them much better guests than the norm. I wish the guys would elevate too. There are so many times when guests say things that are easily refuted and the fellas miss it. Maybe its just to push the dialog forward but they be getting away with murder. Little black girls are programmed to want to marry a black man? When?? What generation?! Like come on..
BW are absolutely programmed to stick beside BM. In recent times that has changed as we are becoming more open to dating other races. Their are political, historical, and obvious safety reasons as to why BW were discouraged from dating out. ❤
If women want to be wives, they need to learn how to be a wife. “Show up for the job you want as if you already have it.” They talked about the luxury that white women or any other woman are able to “have it all” but of course they can. They know how to be wives far before they get married. And stop talking about men needing to bring out feminine energy. Y’all are women. You should already be feminine. A man should already be masculine as a woman should already be feminine. Why does a man have to teach his woman how to be a woman? I should be teaching my daughter that, not my wife.
Women are naturally feminine but in harsh environments (not "environments" like the climate and trees lol) women will become masculine. Such is the story for a lot of BW. The femininity of a woman is nurtured and watered by the presence of masculinity. A presence that often isn't a part of black homes or black communities. Thus, BW must go it alone unless they expand their options. The reason why men are supposed to be masculine is because men weren't created in response to women. Your masculinity doesn't depend on your reliance on women. It relies on your obedience to God and your ability to fulfill the duties he's set before you. Femininity is measured by our response to the men who are to fulfill those duties (our receptiveness, kindness, peacefulness, ability to submit, prudence, etc..). Now, I do believe that BW who struggle with returning to their feminine nature need to fix that. They should depend on God to lead them fully, go to therapy, surround themselves with safer people, date for character even if it's outside of the race, etc.. I understand why the masculinity issue is occurring but we must fix it if we want to have a life filled with love and oneness with someone. ❤
@@gabbygiovanna9011 I hear what you’re saying but there’s one major flaw in everything you’re relaying. I can understand situations and lifestyle of childhood to adulthood can be a factor in how you see and move within the world. That’s fair. However, when you’re talking about the black community, a large portion of us are predominantly raised with a mother, grandmother, auntie, and so forth. So you mean to tell me that all of the black women today have the greatest advantage to be fully surrounded by and raised by women from birth to adulthood (to include, aunts, sisters, cousins, teachers, mothers friends, her friends, her friends mother, etc.) and with all of these representations of womanhood still can’t figure out how to be feminine? From not one woman? While black men in most cases have to find a male role model while growing up and learning how to be a proper man in the world but we have to look for it in sports coaches, TV and media, jail, gangs, or maybe a stepdad and that’s if the growing boy even respects him as a man in general. No. That’s are excuses to be trash. Also, if you are a women, no one should have to teach you how to be feminine. How to conduct yourself as a lady and wife, for sure. But if you are a woman you instinctively supposed to be feminine. As a man, no man taught me to be masculine. I already was born and instinctively have masculine traits and do masculine things. I was taught how to conduct myself and structure my life as a man. As a woman, elder women teach you how to conduct yourself as a woman, how to utilize your feminine nature in a certain manner. That’s all. So c’mon, since the dawn of humanity men have been men and women have been women. Masculine and feminine. How we present and conduct ourselves in society has changed over the years but everything has always been the same because there are certain things you are just born with. No excuses about any level of trauma will negate a woman’s femininity. Hasn’t for thousands of years throughout the most treacherous and abysmal times in human history that no one alive today can fathom. On top of that, even with all the trauma and stuggles we may have faced in the last 30-50 years in America doesn’t even compare to what some other people face on a daily basis today. So, in closing, just as an example. You mean to tell me there’s a woman who escaped the hellish and incredibly impoverished Nation of North Korea can come to America and sit on the Joe Rogan Podcast and have flashbacks about how crippling her life was in her home country and still sit there as feminine, soft, and lovely as ever while exhibiting crushing symptoms of PTSD but a black woman can’t be feminine because of daddy issues and growing up food stamps but still growing up with fresh Jordans or her feet because life was a little tough? And then walk around berating black men about how they need to boss up because even $100,000 a year ain’t enough to live off of? (And the list goes on) Naw. Not buying it. Lol. A lot black women just stubborn and don’t want to be feminine and since no one will hold them accountable, they relish in the delusion. Every other woman on the planet “got it figured out” no matter their situation but black womens plight is so bad they can’t get it? Naw. Black women just stubborn or delusional. Maybe be both, who knows. Now, all I’m doing is just calling a spade a spade. If we can’t do that then the community as a whole will always fail and that’s all that’s to it. Just a little food for thought. The Palestinian people are getting bombed and killed everyday as we speak. Losing their homes, family, starving, and just trying to be alive for at least the next five minutes. You think the Palestinian women had to be forced to be feminine during their time of distress or are they just being women in peril? I don’t know. I’m pretty sure it never took bombs and bullets for them to be a woman.
@@Surge1808 Because femininity relies so heavily on the presence of masculinity, yes, it's hard for some BW to return to their most natural selves when they have to be the ones protecting and providing. BW absolutely need to return to their feminine nature regardless of the presence of BM or not. But, that means that we must learn and appreciate the utility of men which may mean not always selecting BM. You think trauma doesn't affect a woman's femininity which isn't true. Trauma caused in direct relation to a man's actions can affect one's femininity especially if the issue is ongoing. The whole nature of femininity is trusting, giving, submitting, being soft, peaceful, etc.. Would you say that those traits are conducive to the harsh realities of the world? No. The world is a harsh place. So, who is supposed to make sure those traits can survive in the world? Men. If those men are hurting you, not protecting you, and abandoning you, then you have 2 options: pick another group of men or adapt to the world. I think my sisters made the wrong decision in adapting to the world. We should've appealed to other groups of men. BW didn't always have the nature BM describe today. We were warm, sweet, hospitable, soft spoken, witty, etc..Men of all races love those traits. But we instead opted to become hard, callous, independent, which wasn't the best choice. BW are exhausted and begging for protection. Why do you think we don't want to be feminine? Maybe, we don't trust that BM are capable of providing that space for us which is a different story. Women can withstand a lot with their men. What is happening in Palestine is tragic but Palestinian women aren't being bombed by Palestinian men. So I'm not sure why you brought that up as if Palestinian woman have a reason to mistrust or be masculine with their men.
Part of the generational trauma is men seeking out young girls. Worldwide who learned nothing. He was the father AND teacher. Even if he was living life as an invalid. That mentality is still prevalent today.
In this podcast every time they said something remotely negative or critical about a woman they would always say I hope this is not offensive, ladies don’t be mad at me, etc. but had zero problems saying something offensive or negative about men without any disclaimer. Even the women who seem to be more mature in talks about relationships still understand you have to sugarcoat things to women & you can just give the real to men which is the basis of most relationship problems.
@@shanikad3999 yes thicker skin in the sense of being able to receive the harsh truth without seeing it as an attack but understanding that’s how a person experienced being with them. The only people can move on to have a better relationship is to understand what they did wrong in the past or understand that just because you have good intentions doesn’t mean it’s being received like that by other people.
@PapaPolo women, particularly black women, do need to be more conscious of our emotional triggers and how they create a barrier to communication and harmonious living; we're still women, words r filtered through our feelings despite our rough shell we need to be treated gently
I won't lie. Most of the things they mentioned are based on helping and moving like women. We already do most of these things, and we get modern society as a result.
Thanks guys! It was a refreshing thing to see adults have a mature conversation. My 38 yr old son told me about you guys. I’m an older woman but it’s interesting to see how the younger community is living. And I have to say many times than not I don’t like the young ladies that you have on the show. Lately,I must say you guys have improved on the female guests. Keep up the good work. Happy Holidays!
Absolutely loved this episode!!! Having the match maker on gave some great prospective that I even learned a few things to change up about myself and my dating preferences & options
Great convo! I love the Sista Dr. HARRIS she was the most level-headed and a straight shooter. And have to shoutout, Shay the match maker, she is the really deal 90% Success rate!
This episode was so refreshing to hear conversations with intelligent context about the black nucleus of the older intelligent mature black man and black woman coexisting with each other in a positive loving manner.
I love you three brothers but I would love to see you guys really hold these women feet to the fire more direct questions three intelligent brothers I love the show...
It’s wild to me as a slightly above mid earner and normal looks that a bunch of 40 year old VERY average looking women have the highest demands for men
Out of all of your shows that I've listened to, it's a breath of fresh air to see a panel of mature, intelligent, and fair women. Usually, modern women are more rachet and financially driven. So it's exciting to see black women on another spectrum and level of understanding! 👍🏾
This panel may be calm and soft-spoken, BUT honestly, they ain't saying anything different than a ratchet woman. The mere fact a dating coach is charging 10k for some "date tips" is no different than Sugar Daddy spending that amount on 18 to 23 year old. All I heard from these women was: Me, Me, Me, Me, (maybe you) more of Me, and even more ME!
I keep trying to tell these brothers that are being fooled by their degree status, and the fact that they’ve read a couple books, they are no different from street walkers and only fans models, bird brain seems to infect the entire black, female populace
Simps will never pick up on that ! A soft delivery tricks them every time . Basic chameleons tactics. I agree they have the exact same core ideologies as the ratchets
@@TruthandRealityUndefeatedwhy don't you just explore dating men, bc at the end of the day based off of your comment/ complaint your options are super slim.
24:20 but they always say "if you don't want me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best." I appreciate the words of our sister in the pink when she said we should be there to support our spouses. That goes both ways.
There should have been a lot more pushback on this show. Sssssooooo many moments when the women were clearly 🧢, were super delusional, we’re talking sideways about black men or had their facts dead wrong. C’mon brothers. Stand strong. 1:11:30 - I’m tired of all this conditional femininity talk. You either are or you aren’t. Men don’t get to make that excuse. “I need a woman to bring the masculine energy out of me” how ridiculous does that sound?
Well god gave us all intuition and you should ALWAYS TRUST IT.. so I don’t feel comfortable around somebody your gonna tell me to basically let me guard down “be feminine “ no matter what because that’s what you feel that I should be doing naturally? Women are naturally feminine UNTIL they feel they uncomfortable and that’s been explained so many times and y’all (NOT ALL) still don’t get it…BUT for the women who just comes off super aggressive and etc she’s obviously traumatized and never healed from it which she needs to work on ….but I hate the fact that when we are GUARDED and we try to feel the situation or person out first y’all bash us for that and call us masculine…we are nice when we are being treated nice 💯💯💯💯 your the type if women getting beat and stomped and cursed out by a man you still expect her to stay and remain Feminine with a smile while she’s getting beat smh
@@DailyRapUpCrew there was a lot of their assessment of black men, especially early in the show that was demeaning and low key insulting. Y’all let a lot of those comments slide unchallenged.
@@AlexMinor they were swooed by their Genjutsu of their college degrees. And it’s so many simps in the comments "this was the best conversation yet" "these women were so beautiful and wife ready" but yet the matchmaker looks just like Wendy Williams. I haven’t even watch the whole video, but I can tell you from following the matchmaker before on Instagram that all she does is shit on men. These other women come off as uppity, and they look down on black men. Sorry to say it, but the daily wrapup crew does not have the mental acuity to be able to push back on women who may read a book or two they (DWUC) are low level barometer and can only stand against your everyday Hoodbooger females, or a street ratchets.
A very enjoyable discussion with some pleasant, impressive ladies. It’s worth noting that despite their socioeconomic status, their mindsets did not differ significantly from those of any other female guests that have been on this show. Very telling of the times.
Thank-you very much, Madam. You understand perfectly! It doesn't matter about most of the socioeconomic classes because most come from very similar backgrounds, Mindsets, and environmentally listen to the same Info.
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I've never heard a black man say I need my woman to have weave or wig. What if its black men saying I like your hair natural but I also want it taken care of. Just as black women want their man's hair kept.
I also think we as people need to be aware of each other as we occupy space in society. We are stuck in a battle of trying to one up another and not uniting. Are fights may be slightly different but we still in the same space.
Fellas keep this conversation going. Eli hit her with the black demographics. That flew over their heads.
This conversation was enjoyable to listen to but it’s the same format that all of these conversations are based on.
All the women in the room are unmarried and/or divorced and some have children. With all due respect, none of them are qualified to speak on what makes a good relationship. Even the “MatchMaker” is unmarried.
You need to get women of the same age as these women who are married and have been married, in one marriage for 15 years or more and watch how drastically the conversation changes. These are the women that are successful in relationships and can therefore speak to said success.
It’s crazy how powerful social media is. She 100 percent believes women are top earners in households vs men, despite statistical data. Adding to it, she tried to deflect and say, maybe in your situation. Absolutely mind blowing.
She’s got access to internet. But doesn’t use it to understand different dynamics besides hers.
I peeped that too, they were off with a few of stats of what's average too.
See smart bitches are dumb too. Still lacking common sense and logic
Totally, they just said most women want a man that earns more than them lol. It's more than likely the highest earning women are single, waiting on that 0.001% man that earns more 7 figures. Also isn't there a "wage gap" that many women bring up all the time, guess it magically disappears depending on the narrative.
Yeah, they tried coming in as calm upstanding women… but all they did was come off as arrogant/selfish. And this is why a lot of them are single.
I had to date a drug dealer to figure out that dating drug dealer is not for me! WOW!!!!!!!!! She looks sensible but here we go.
Women are not the head of the household! That is dead wrong!
Single mothers, I assume they were talking about.
I heard that, and she has no idea what the hell she is talking about....
In the black community it's true. Myself and all my peers are head of household. Even some of the married associates.
@@morena1484what bs are you talking?
@@RoblEsquirenone of these birds do
The contrast between these young black men and the older black woman on this show is telling.
It’s weird how BW recently became this person that’s looking for partners that will provide them a life to do nothing. But not just a life, but a life of leisure. In our history BM and BW have always worked together, now it’s BW grinding to achieve a professional career just to find a man that can allow them to give it all up. I don’t understand that.
Yeah sounds dumb to me too and I'm sure a bunch of other guys.
Count me in that bunch as well. They have accumulated student loans and other debt trying to conform to social media lifestyle narratives then want a guy to come along and shoulder all that baggage so she can not work or live a life of leisure.
They don't want to do any work in the relationship.
Good Luck to these ladies, Enjoy the Race to the bottom.
Yeah! Doesn't make any since.
They don't say this out loud enough to understand how ridiculous it sounds. How does someone make 5 million and wanna date someone making 6 figures and doesn't wanna pay for the vacation. What's the point in having that kinda money and feeling some type of way in spending the money for the trip? That's why men Don care about your money. You Don wanna spend a dime.
It's because they are lead by feminist
I think this whole is boils down to people waiting to long to date people seriously. I met my wife when I was 20 and riding the bus. We both contributed to the household when we moved in together. When I was in grad school and had internships and practicums she chipped in more because I had to work less to focus on education and we had 2 kids at the time. I'm now 33 we are about to have our 3rd child, we have a big house and my wife hasn't paid a bill in 2 years and is about to be become a stay at home mom. People gotta be willing to invest in each for the benefit of both parties because in the end a marriage is about team work and complementing each other's weaknesses with the other persons strengths.
Speaking my language. I did the same for my husband and now he takes care of our family. I haven’t needed to work full time in years and feel very blessed to have that option.
Sounds like u guys had a plan
PREACH ON IT
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God has a plan for everyone and finding your spouse at the age of 20 is not God's plan for everyone. But please answer me this. Did you lose your virginity to your wife and did you both engage in premarital sex?
Why are BW allowed to use their past/victimhood to excuse their failures but BM are told to "get over it" when it comes to our past/things we cant control?
It's simple because we're men op race has nothing to do with it. They ALL act like this.
We're Men, Men are always expected to tough it out
@@viewergrazemen calling say a woman for the streets is not accountability. 😂😂😂😂
@viewergraze sound like more excuses and being young is no excuse for doing things you shouldn’t be doing. Yet want men to be forgiven to women who just do whatever they want and think we should tolerate the bs. It’s funny women want the ability to talk all the shit in the world about men but don’t want men to speak up about shit they go through when dealing with women. SMH.
And BW usually bring their mistakes with them that they expect BM to happily help clothe, feed, and shelter with no authority to discipline, guide, and mold to strive for their greatest potential.
Whenever a woman says she wants a guy who's ambitious, all that means is a guy who's constantly making more money than before.
Thanks for sharing your perspective
@@DailyRapUpCrewsaying perspective is crazy, y’all be letting y’all guests over talk y’all and be condescending all the time🤣🤣🤣 tf gang, do yourself a favor.
Look up the stats on the topics, have them available and challenge peoples perspective with the visible truth. Most of The women will still lie in y’all face every single time
@@34maybachkdat79bubble in all 😂
Facts
What’s wrong with wanting someone ambitious? Who’s wants a lazy man or woman?
The more i hear these sisters speak the more im fighting to stay married
Please stay married ain't nothing yesss I said ain't nothing out here! Wish I would've kept mines! Go to a couple's retreat stay, stay!!
GOOD IDEA! Keep your woman happy. Constantly GROW together!!!
There is great power in Marriage.
Communication is Key 🔑
Facts! These new women are 😅😅😅
As A women I can Respectfully Say Even If I Make “More” Money Than My Husband Or Become The “Breadwinner” Which shouldn’t Matter Who’s Making More As long as you’re Both Taking Care Of each Other, The MAN Is Always The Head Of Household Not Because Of Money But The Reason For Having A Family Name Is The Father’s Name. Even Different Cultures If the Dad Were To Pass Away, The Eldest Son Would Become ‘Head Of Household’ Even If The Mom Provide Financially & Does Everything Which We Know Women Are The Strong and Great Providers That Doesn’t Take That Away
Very well said, Madam! 👊👊✊✊👏👏👏
most black women who make more money than their man lack respect for the man. They become the man.
"the man is always the head of the household" is 100% true but mot bw do not agree. Thanks for understanding this.
As A "women"?🤔
I feel like the head of the household should be who would have to deal with a home invader at 3AM……
I can't say this enough. Everyone doesn't have trauma (serious) or need a therapist. Stop telling people they need therapy. Not everyone needs it. People need to stop projecting themselves onto others.
That part. Therapy has become black women’s new version of “I’ve got a degree”
@@AlexMinorwhat you said what do fucking stupid omg .. THE BLACK COMMUNITY needs to normalize therapy.. we don’t and it’s sad .. it’s nothing wrong with going to therapy
Therapy is NOT just for trauma. Everyone does need therapy. It teaches good coping mechanisms for when your life does turn upside down.
@@CyberMachine everyone doesn’t NEED it. Can it be good to have? Yes. But let’s be completely honest and practical. For most people It’s a luxury. Not a necessity.
@@AlexMinoragreed!!! Totally!!! Some ppl are more emotional intelligent, and equipped to cleanse/ regulate their mental/ psyche, than others.
To the men out there before you pay $10,000 for a dating coach why don't you just pay $150 for a passport
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Because if we’re being honest, the dating coaches are only matching you with their other clientele not the perfect match for you, but other people that are in her pocket
Trip to Africa! 54 countries!
I'm going to get mine!
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Love how Eli respectfully still held these educated (ringless) women to their hypocritical double standards.
But who wants a ring from a loser? Marriage is not a badge of honor of you are married to a man who can’t provide, lies, cheats, is emotionally unavailable and sorry. Why get married to a grown boy or a king without a kingdom?
And yes. I’ve been married twice. A ring don’t mean sh@t!
@@tab_bMarried twice! Seems like the loser is you.
@@tab_bgo heal and 🤫
@@tab_b If you've been married twice, then the issue is you. Not marriage.
Wouldn't be smart for a man to get with a woman that's stuck on a dollar amount. An iron clad prenuptial needs to be inplace for that one
Been watching these guys but this by far has been one of the best articulated conversations. Refreshing to get adult women POV's on the same topics. Enjoyed!
This whole episode was 🧢 You have a bunch of older women in a late '30s and '40s that still haven't figured it out but out here giving advice and insight to relationships. The fact that a matter is if they would have spent just as much time on a relationship as they did on their career they would have had a better outcome.
Yong lady's don't listen to this old woman, pleace check for Kevin Samuels ?? R.I.P
Whole episode stupid n worthless with no common sense at all
They are very set in their ways and can't turn off Auto response. How can you understand what is being said if you are only waiting to respond.🤔
I’m a Relationship Coach and I try to tell women this.
Yes, because marrying someone the intellectual caliber of these commenters would guarantee a happy fulfilling existence😂😂😂
As a Match maker and dating coach she should be knowledgeable of the statistics when it comes to relationships and income standards.
Self proclaimed my g
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I think I seen her on a show and she was looking for a man herself I think she even slept with the guy she started dating
@@GETBIG4WARD A dating coach needed help to find a date 🤷♂️
Thought I was the only one that pick that up.
Was this an add for her match making services or a genuine conversation for the podcast? I couldn’t tell. Anyone paying this lady 10-20k to find their match may God be with you.
Yeah that's crazy!!!
Same thing I was thinking. Just a promotion for her services. Ain’t no way you need a damn “dating coach” to tell you this information.
She said it took a man flying her to Mexico to put her in her feminine energy. Women like her are money hungry
How do black women keep getting credit for being loyal? I’m honestly confused at that statement.
I'm confused too. the most baby mamas of women.
That’s like saying that I’m loyal to earth.
Therapy is subjective, every therapist don’t give good advice and some ppl just pick therapist that already align with their thoughts and beliefs
I enjoyed hearing women who can admit their faults, think rather than feel, and not talk over each other. Great conversation.
Still; do any of them currently have a man?
Most of them talk a good game, but fold even before pressure is applied.
Be careful.
The men were quick to talk over them the moment they disagreed though. Don’t get me wrong, it’s common enough to do that, but I think it’s worth noting that the men did that and it seems to be considered a feminine trait.
Thank you sir
@@RoLee705well its their show n they are the host n its their job n responsibility to direct the conversation
@@sunsoza8320 yeah but they’re doing it improperly, in my opinion, at certain points.
😂 it’s crazy how they just made up “women make more than men when in relationships” and just tried to run with it like it’s not false 😭😭😭
It could be true because black men become felons at a higher rate, goto prison at a higher rate, and graduate from college at a lower rate so black women r really starting to make more money than there partner
It's nice to see KS talking points coming full circle I appreciate the honesty of these woman
these women are just as trash as the rest and that includes the dating coach.
Good substantive conversations with healthy debates . Keep it up gents .
Shae may need to do more research on her numbers. I didn’t hear too many statistics come from her claims. 55% of black business owners are men, 37% are women and 8% are co-owned, as of 2020.
In 2023, after the PPP folks fell off, those numbers went to 63% for black men, 22% of business are owned by women and 15% coed.
There’s been multiple times, the women in this interview, have made numerous false claims, without backing it up. Your perspective isn’t everyone’s reality, nor it equates to the statistics.
But I do love hearing their points of view and it’s interesting to listen to their experiences. Like one woman did say, “this is what I went through”.
A perfect example of how our communication should be. This was a pleasure to listen to.
A pleasure ? Bro are you okay?
@@tabootabletalkpodcastDon’t worry about the old heads from black people meet. They’ve been indoctrinated for decades now. Can’t teach an old dog..
@@tabootabletalkpodcastBoth parties were respectful, no loud talking, no over talking, each taking in each others' perspective. What's the issue?
Majority of women absolutely choose the drug dealer, the scammer & the criminal don’t kill the messenger
Well u didn’t 😂
Black women are the only ones who do that Asian and Hispanic women don’t choose drug dealers
Lol,when that subject came up,they glossed over it with the exception of the one woman stating she didn't want a drug dealer.She only didn't want one after a bad experience with at least one .The rest of the women said nothing.They love the men with those occupations. Especially when they're young, durable and ready to make bad decisions.Then after the negative consequences and babies, they want the safe, boring 9 to 5 guy.
Definitely one of the best episodes. It's good to hear from rational intelligent women.
These women remind me of my aunts and the women in my life. I appreciate this episode for sure ! 🙏🏾
glad you liked it!
Us black men are the most emotionally intelligent & emotionally mature people on this planet because we've been through the most. We care about others most of the time but we don't get the same treatment in return and that is a FACT. Now I'm not saying black women are not emotionally intelligent but they're definitney not as emotionally intelligent as us.
Maannn literally always catering to the needs of others while constantly being silenced and ignored emotionally, the only emotion they acknowledge from us is always the anger and rarely the love
Great show fellas. Those women were completely wrong on the statistics. I know them well. It is part of my profession to delve into numbers
send us the numbers via ig or our email
1:15:30 so she didn't know men have similar feelings an yet they complain about an alleged lack of "emotional intelligence" in men? 😂
Thanks for sharing your perspective
It’s just more proof women don’t care about men’s emotions.
To most of them, emotional intelligence means “you prioritize and are intelligent about MY emotions”.
@@AlexMinorDo men care about their own emotions? Do men prioritize their mental health & express how they feel? Do men go talk to professionals when they feel they have no one else to talk to?
@@R0yALtySlol you are not staying on topic and moving the goal post 😂😂
@@R0yALtyS
Let me try to answer that.
Sure ,we care about our emotions. They are just not as volatile as women's.
Imagine emotions as a number. 1 is despondent. 10 is exhilarated. 5 is neutral.
Men usually go through their week 4,5,6. Sometimes we hit 3s and 7s.
Women usually go 3,4,5,6,7 and sometimes hit 8s and 2s.
So, when men hit 8, 9 (like being in love), we are surprised.
Likewise, when we are overwhelmed when we hit a 3,2 (like death of a parent, or divorce). Therapy does work wonders.
However, men have been conditioned from a young age to "toughen up" or "man up". Which is actually a good thing because women, as much as they claim that they desire a sensitive man, are repulsed by a crying (ergo weak) man....he can't be a good protector!
Do men express how we feel? Not as a rule.
But we do, if the problem is serious enough.
If a man confides a problem to another man, it is serious business.
Men are fixers. We are asking help from a friend to help us fix a problem. Do it is somewhat of an honor too.
Btw, that's why men offer solutions when you want to talk about a problem. YOU NEED to tell him beforehand that you just want him to listen, not to try to fix it. So he can mentally put another hat on.
Men are also better discussing problems when their mind is focused on something else. Like the sex he just had with you. Yes, men open up better after sex.
When talking with his friend, they might be focused on drinking, fishing, or tiling the floor.
I've gone to therapy after my divorce (married 30 years), which was very beneficial. But I was also at that 1,2 mark on the emotion scale.
Hope that helps.
Definitely enjoyed this watch . The level of maturity displayed by these ladies are the reason I watched the entire episode. I will however point out the fact that the same women who had such great points when defining success without actually answering the question, was also the first woman to admit how important it is for her man to make money and match her grit due to the sacrifices she has had to make to get where she is. I do however feel where she is coming from. I’m just pointing out how that was the question asked in the beginning and she didn’t actually answer it rather list other types of success.
Why do women talk about wanting to be in their "feminine energy" when they're talking about normal, grown-up stuff? I mean, paying your own bills is "masculine?" Having babies is masculine? Choosing to be a single mother is not masculine. Single fathers aren't femenine when they're raising their kids. I like assertive vs masculine.
When talking to women 99% of the time they will fall in line with the "girl code". It's hard for them to express any divergent ideas.
The only time you’ll get full transparency out of most women, is if you speak to them 1 on 1. Even then, you gotta drag it out of them most times. Lying, sugar coating and saying whatever will save face is the default
Yes..with the whole disclaimer. And the "me personally" always tryna soften the blow.
The black female doctor is intellectually astute and explained ev'ry thing in laymen's terms... Please have her back on the show....
All she was missing was actual facts regarding average earnings. That was a sad and unnecessary lie.
@@usmanvcxyou feel some way lol 😂
@AliciaBee89 in her case she is probably going to make more but on avg blk men still make more
@@josephcharles3460agreed, but dude was under other comments it was just funny! Like lets stop being against one another
@@Cole57576 what are you babbling about, what comment??? It’s nothing wrong with women earning more than men if it’s a fact, but I’m guessing you don’t like correcting lies especially when it’s in your benefit.
54:15 so earlier they dismissed black mens feelings by gaslighting saying "those things happened in their past" but then say its "their experience" when it comes to hair LOL
😂 bruh
That is a trait I believe all women share. Society has made rules for both genders, which has us socializing based on those rules.
Women do need to allow men to share their emotions because it’s healthy for the relationship.
Because this was in my present not past.😂
Women are terrible debaters because them emotions trump logic
This was a good episode. These women were a breath of fresh air! A different quality of women not yelling, screaming and had class.
Wow. One of the best and most important informative discussion that I've ever watched in youtube and other social streams. The content that you guys/gals discussed would be applicable to all ethnicity. Kudos to the organizer and all the participants. Very dignified & objective oriented conversation, respecting each others perspectives, No attitude/diva showing personalities and more importantly cool headed and pragmatic conversation. Thank you all
They hardly brought up anything theyd do for the man that meets their standards or what those type of men are looking for
ummm maybe because they weren’t asked … tf?!!
@@flatbush9117EXACTLY! I’m thinking some of the “men” in the comments are illiterate
I think one of the biggest opportunities of having a real conversation was missed in this. It was touched briefly, but going deeper into sacrifice. understanding that you can limit your ability to qualify for most by chasing a career so then the question becomes what is more important to you having a successful career or having a successful family. Because very few can truly do both.
49:12 A mid 30's woman who's willing to spend 25k for the possibility of finding a man isn't the pick of the liter. When you pursue money over family then try to hit a buzzer beater by hiring "match making wall service" before you lose your last egg, you know you're in for bad times.
I keep telling these brothers in the comments that these women are no different than Sukihana and Sexyy Red. The only difference is that they have degrees. The current state of black women in this country is abysmal.
@@tabootabletalkpodcast verified facts
Then they still want you to have at least one hundred k to fund their lifestyles.I can't wait to sign up for that.
It sounds like a bad investment. You could put that money to better use. She's a scammer calling herself matchmaker.
I love the selection of Women this show. Yall picked grown and mature WOMEN.
Glad you liked it!
and they are just as immature as the others. are they married? nope. bosses. all skrong. independent. don't need no man. none of those women are going to get married to the man they FEEL they deserve. That doctor isn't married to another doctor. a male doctor will not waste his time with her. he will get a woman who feels being a wife and mom is the greatest in the world. not a woman who thinks being a boss is the best.
This podcast is dope that y’all bring on soft women that can communicate with wisdom and not emotions. Great work black kings. Proud of this 💪🏾🎶🤞🏾
Thank you for having these women on here. I do have to say 1 thing... The match maker continued to enter her personal experience to make decisions for others rather than the statics over all. I feel like SHE isn't qualified when I see she hasn't healed from her personal experiences.
Lil Brothers. Your show is “Maturing” before our eyes. Growth is a part of “Manhood”, and you all are certainly growing. ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾
Appreciate that means a lot
This was such a better show with a group of grown and mature women compared to what y'all normally have.
I would like to see more of this.
Thank you 🙏🏿
Just because they are older does not mean they are more mature, if you truly listen to what they are saying, it’s the same rhetoric just with a little bit of education sprinkled on top
@@tabootabletalkpodcast I'll agree to disagree with you, because in my opinion, they seemed more agreeable and reasonable compared to the girls they normally have on their show, so that's where me and you stand apart from each other.
@@trevonh4139 just because they’re more civilized does not make them more agreeable bro
@@tabootabletalkpodcast Like I said, "Agree to disagree."
I love the internet when they discover a new word they run it into the ground " emotional intelligence " by women who literally have none smh
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It is so interesting no one talks about love. It's all about money and earnings. It is about status symbols.
Great conversation yo, I like the way Dr.Harris articulated herself professionally and also to support your partner through whatever trauma they going through and everyone was respectful and I agree that we should stop using our past as an excuse on how we act or treat people in relationships both men and women
This episode is like a breath of fresh air. S/o to the crew. Keep up the good work!!
Thank uou guys so much 🥰🥰🥰
Yeah, a breath of fresh air that suffocates you.
Yea fresh and boring
It was a breath of fresh air to have educated and beautiful women not trying to put the blame on the opposite gender while still speaking their truths.
The cap started at women making more than men. She didn’t give a clear rebuttal
This is one of the best informational honest conversations on a podcast that I've ever seen.
I get what she was saying about the age difference. My husband has a daughter my age, and another about 8-10 years older than me. People automatically assumed I was going to use or take advantage of him. For all I knew, he was living on Social Security and food stamps 🤷🏽 However, he was there for me in a time of grief, taking care of me and showing me love. If not for him, I might have sent myself out of here. He may be nearly 30 years my senior, but this love is real❤✊🏽
I appreciate you sharing that with us … maybe you would like to join us one day and share that on the platform
Na that’s suspect on his part.
30 years that’s crazy. Guess it depends if you’re 30 okay. But dam that’s too big of a gap. That’s some weak sperm.
Great testimony! There is nothing wrong with older men dating a younger woman. Im 43 and I dont date anything over 35. I probably never will.
Glad to see you're making space for more mature conversations. I don't mind the ratchet stuff, but it's good to have balance.
Glad you liked it!
Finally some mature women on the show
That's cool but the show was kind of boring
My only question is were any of the women on the panel Married 🤔 because if not their opinions don't really matter because most men want to marry younger women.
@@jermaineharrison5255 Thank you, not even the match maker was married……
With basically the same mindsets as any other
Young people are so stupid
Just one question how can a matchmaker be single and not married?
Everytime i click on one of these vids about dating in today's society... Money always has to be the root of the conversation with women. Theirs nothing wrong with a man having a 9-5 living comfortably within his means, he'll just need to find someone that's in the same caliber and respect him for his position. That's why its difficult for alot of successful women to find men because they idolize luxurious lifestyle and materialistic things, and most men don't. It's cool to do nice things time to time for sure, but in my opinion he shouldn't be judge if he works a 9-5 and not a boss. That's not everyone's goal..
It’s about time you guys found a whole panel of educated females!!! 😀👍🏿
Same ole bullshit
True…I had to tune out from the ratchet, “Why Eli?!?!”, broads…
@@jermaineburgess3767same old haterade from bitters like you
Boring
Help them out. You got anything to contribute to make them a better channel or panel?
This episode was such a breathe of beautiful fresh air , we need more of this for sure 😍
The best podcast episode ever fellas! Great quality discussions with quality people
Men define success as comfort which usually equals money and happiness.
Best panel by far. Perspective is everything, know the characteristics of the ppl in your village is your first step to happiness.
I like this panel of women. This is how communication should be. Don’t agree with everything said and they might all be super difficult in real relationships but I like the conversation.
1:05:26 ready to START a family at 40 as a woman? LOL our community is doomed
nutts
Some men are okay with starting a family at 40, do what’s best for your relationship and not based off society.
Y’all do shit based of what society thinks and that’s yall problem and that’s why things do go the right way in your life
@@brielax4441 men are built different than women are so trying to put us in the same playing field is never going to work
I keep telling these brothers in the comments that these women are no different than Sexyy Red and Sukihana and Summer Walker. these ratchets just have degrees behind their names.
They dont want a Black man, Get 20 Black women in a room and tell them to hold up a card with a picture of the man they want and all 20 will have a picture of the same black man. They dont want black men they want that 1 black man that everybody else want. and what happens is they simply wait their turn.
lol. Respectfully, 20 BM are going to hold up a picture of the same type of women that everybody else wants as well. The sister wasn't lying when she spoke to nonBM preferring natural BW over BM. ❤
None of our men look alike 😂
A very insightful and informative dialogue. I enjoyed the exchange between the panelists, the difference in options indicates the uniqueness among people. However, during the podcast, I noticed some commonalities like, how they dealt with statistics vs emotions; and marriage vs career. Overall great podcast. Gents, great energy.
S/O to The Daily Wrap Up Crew as well as the guests. I like the way Eli stood on business when the ladies were giving him pushback about black men vs black women as far as income. The relationship counselor and college educated women have valid points.
These women are better at presenting which makes them much better guests than the norm. I wish the guys would elevate too. There are so many times when guests say things that are easily refuted and the fellas miss it. Maybe its just to push the dialog forward but they be getting away with murder. Little black girls are programmed to want to marry a black man? When?? What generation?! Like come on..
Wow thank you so much Steph
I agree, they don’t have the intellectual ability to rebuttal the guests
Yeah I like em but they ain’t Myron Tho
BW are absolutely programmed to stick beside BM. In recent times that has changed as we are becoming more open to dating other races. Their are political, historical, and obvious safety reasons as to why BW were discouraged from dating out. ❤
@@gabbygiovanna9011 example?
If women want to be wives, they need to learn how to be a wife. “Show up for the job you want as if you already have it.” They talked about the luxury that white women or any other woman are able to “have it all” but of course they can. They know how to be wives far before they get married. And stop talking about men needing to bring out feminine energy. Y’all are women. You should already be feminine. A man should already be masculine as a woman should already be feminine. Why does a man have to teach his woman how to be a woman? I should be teaching my daughter that, not my wife.
Facts!!!!
Women are naturally feminine but in harsh environments (not "environments" like the climate and trees lol) women will become masculine. Such is the story for a lot of BW. The femininity of a woman is nurtured and watered by the presence of masculinity. A presence that often isn't a part of black homes or black communities. Thus, BW must go it alone unless they expand their options. The reason why men are supposed to be masculine is because men weren't created in response to women. Your masculinity doesn't depend on your reliance on women. It relies on your obedience to God and your ability to fulfill the duties he's set before you. Femininity is measured by our response to the men who are to fulfill those duties (our receptiveness, kindness, peacefulness, ability to submit, prudence, etc..).
Now, I do believe that BW who struggle with returning to their feminine nature need to fix that. They should depend on God to lead them fully, go to therapy, surround themselves with safer people, date for character even if it's outside of the race, etc.. I understand why the masculinity issue is occurring but we must fix it if we want to have a life filled with love and oneness with someone.
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@@gabbygiovanna9011 I hear what you’re saying but there’s one major flaw in everything you’re relaying. I can understand situations and lifestyle of childhood to adulthood can be a factor in how you see and move within the world. That’s fair. However, when you’re talking about the black community, a large portion of us are predominantly raised with a mother, grandmother, auntie, and so forth. So you mean to tell me that all of the black women today have the greatest advantage to be fully surrounded by and raised by women from birth to adulthood (to include, aunts, sisters, cousins, teachers, mothers friends, her friends, her friends mother, etc.) and with all of these representations of womanhood still can’t figure out how to be feminine? From not one woman? While black men in most cases have to find a male role model while growing up and learning how to be a proper man in the world but we have to look for it in sports coaches, TV and media, jail, gangs, or maybe a stepdad and that’s if the growing boy even respects him as a man in general. No. That’s are excuses to be trash.
Also, if you are a women, no one should have to teach you how to be feminine. How to conduct yourself as a lady and wife, for sure. But if you are a woman you instinctively supposed to be feminine. As a man, no man taught me to be masculine. I already was born and instinctively have masculine traits and do masculine things. I was taught how to conduct myself and structure my life as a man. As a woman, elder women teach you how to conduct yourself as a woman, how to utilize your feminine nature in a certain manner. That’s all.
So c’mon, since the dawn of humanity men have been men and women have been women. Masculine and feminine. How we present and conduct ourselves in society has changed over the years but everything has always been the same because there are certain things you are just born with. No excuses about any level of trauma will negate a woman’s femininity. Hasn’t for thousands of years throughout the most treacherous and abysmal times in human history that no one alive today can fathom. On top of that, even with all the trauma and stuggles we may have faced in the last 30-50 years in America doesn’t even compare to what some other people face on a daily basis today.
So, in closing, just as an example. You mean to tell me there’s a woman who escaped the hellish and incredibly impoverished Nation of North Korea can come to America and sit on the Joe Rogan Podcast and have flashbacks about how crippling her life was in her home country and still sit there as feminine, soft, and lovely as ever while exhibiting crushing symptoms of PTSD but a black woman can’t be feminine because of daddy issues and growing up food stamps but still growing up with fresh Jordans or her feet because life was a little tough? And then walk around berating black men about how they need to boss up because even $100,000 a year ain’t enough to live off of? (And the list goes on)
Naw. Not buying it. Lol. A lot black women just stubborn and don’t want to be feminine and since no one will hold them accountable, they relish in the delusion. Every other woman on the planet “got it figured out” no matter their situation but black womens plight is so bad they can’t get it? Naw. Black women just stubborn or delusional. Maybe be both, who knows.
Now, all I’m doing is just calling a spade a spade. If we can’t do that then the community as a whole will always fail and that’s all that’s to it.
Just a little food for thought. The Palestinian people are getting bombed and killed everyday as we speak. Losing their homes, family, starving, and just trying to be alive for at least the next five minutes. You think the Palestinian women had to be forced to be feminine during their time of distress or are they just being women in peril?
I don’t know. I’m pretty sure it never took bombs and bullets for them to be a woman.
@@Surge1808 Because femininity relies so heavily on the presence of masculinity, yes, it's hard for some BW to return to their most natural selves when they have to be the ones protecting and providing. BW absolutely need to return to their feminine nature regardless of the presence of BM or not. But, that means that we must learn and appreciate the utility of men which may mean not always selecting BM.
You think trauma doesn't affect a woman's femininity which isn't true. Trauma caused in direct relation to a man's actions can affect one's femininity especially if the issue is ongoing. The whole nature of femininity is trusting, giving, submitting, being soft, peaceful, etc.. Would you say that those traits are conducive to the harsh realities of the world? No. The world is a harsh place. So, who is supposed to make sure those traits can survive in the world? Men. If those men are hurting you, not protecting you, and abandoning you, then you have 2 options: pick another group of men or adapt to the world. I think my sisters made the wrong decision in adapting to the world. We should've appealed to other groups of men. BW didn't always have the nature BM describe today. We were warm, sweet, hospitable, soft spoken, witty, etc..Men of all races love those traits. But we instead opted to become hard, callous, independent, which wasn't the best choice.
BW are exhausted and begging for protection. Why do you think we don't want to be feminine? Maybe, we don't trust that BM are capable of providing that space for us which is a different story.
Women can withstand a lot with their men. What is happening in Palestine is tragic but Palestinian women aren't being bombed by Palestinian men. So I'm not sure why you brought that up as if Palestinian woman have a reason to mistrust or be masculine with their men.
Part of the generational trauma is men seeking out young girls. Worldwide who learned nothing. He was the father AND teacher. Even if he was living life as an invalid. That mentality is still prevalent today.
This is the first batch of wonderful ladies I've listened to on this podcast very mature conversation and mindframe
there were others … but of course the ratchetness gets them the most views
I swear it is so soothing to hear emotionally and intellectually in tune sistas ❤. More power to y’all!☮️✊🏾
What they consider loyalty, most people *in the know would* call "dependency." Sweetie, you ain't leaving because you can't
In this podcast every time they said something remotely negative or critical about a woman they would always say I hope this is not offensive, ladies don’t be mad at me, etc. but had zero problems saying something offensive or negative about men without any disclaimer. Even the women who seem to be more mature in talks about relationships still understand you have to sugarcoat things to women & you can just give the real to men which is the basis of most relationship problems.
💯..gynocentric society
This is cap several time we stated we hope this not offensive etc. stop capping
Right. Should women toughen up and develop thicker skin? That reinforces our need to be hard, guarded, and defensive; not vulnerable and feminine.
@@shanikad3999 yes thicker skin in the sense of being able to receive the harsh truth without seeing it as an attack but understanding that’s how a person experienced being with them. The only people can move on to have a better relationship is to understand what they did wrong in the past or understand that just because you have good intentions doesn’t mean it’s being received like that by other people.
@PapaPolo women, particularly black women, do need to be more conscious of our emotional triggers and how they create a barrier to communication and harmonious living; we're still women, words r filtered through our feelings despite our rough shell we need to be treated gently
I won't lie. Most of the things they mentioned are based on helping and moving like women. We already do most of these things, and we get modern society as a result.
That's exactly the point! It's a Power Play, bruh. 👌👌
@@UnexpectedWonder I know, but there's always those new folks.
@@Mortainous Oh, mos def, Brother. I'm also droppin' in that Knowledge to educate those who may come through later. 🙏🙏
I think y’all let the Dr get away with spreading too much false truths on the Head of Household salaries statistics. Eli had facts, she had friends.
Thanks guys! It was a refreshing thing to see adults have a mature conversation. My 38 yr old son told me about you guys. I’m an older woman but it’s interesting to see how the younger community is living. And I have to say many times than not I don’t like the young ladies that you have on the show. Lately,I must say you guys have improved on the female guests. Keep up the good work. Happy Holidays!
Those are the women we have to choose from.
Finally finished the vido and Salute the DRC and the women on the panel for the entertainment
This was a great panel. Seemed to be alot of good information shared from one gender to the other.
Absolutely loved this episode!!! Having the match maker on gave some great prospective that I even learned a few things to change up about myself and my dating preferences & options
Great convo! I love the Sista Dr. HARRIS she was the most level-headed and a straight shooter. And have to shoutout, Shay the match maker, she is the really deal 90% Success rate!
Is that statistic based on marriages?
@@BESTEHSTUBAno it’s not this woman prioritizes men with money, if you hear her talk she should like a 18 yr old in a 40yr body
Cap
This episode was so refreshing to hear conversations with intelligent context about the black nucleus of the older intelligent mature black man and black woman coexisting with each other in a positive loving manner.
Glad you liked it!
I love you three brothers but I would love to see you guys really hold these women feet to the fire more direct questions three intelligent brothers I love the show...
There’s nothing better than a man that allows you to be at total peace.
I agree and men want the same thing
Black women can show loyalty to black men with a positive attitude upfront. Everything else is cap
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This has been one of the best podcasts you all have done 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
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It’s wild to me as a slightly above mid earner and normal looks that a bunch of 40 year old VERY average looking women have the highest demands for men
Great podcast family. Keep up the amazing work
What it do what it do what it do! Congrats on your success, DailyRapUpCrew!!
Out of all of your shows that I've listened to, it's a breath of fresh air to see a panel of mature, intelligent, and fair women. Usually, modern women are more rachet and financially driven. So it's exciting to see black women on another spectrum and level of understanding! 👍🏾
Just because they use proper diction does not make them any better. Their mentality is just as sick as Sukihana or Sexyy Red.
@@tabootabletalkpodcastthat's what u got from the ladies in this video or u speaking on other women?
@@R0yALtySthe video shows it
@R0yALtyS that's not what I got from it, it's what was said verbatim. You're not listening
This panel may be calm and soft-spoken, BUT honestly, they ain't saying anything different than a ratchet woman. The mere fact a dating coach is charging 10k for some "date tips" is no different than Sugar Daddy spending that amount on 18 to 23 year old.
All I heard from these women was:
Me, Me, Me, Me, (maybe you) more of Me, and even more ME!
I keep trying to tell these brothers that are being fooled by their degree status, and the fact that they’ve read a couple books, they are no different from street walkers and only fans models, bird brain seems to infect the entire black, female populace
Simps will never pick up on that ! A soft delivery tricks them every time . Basic chameleons tactics. I agree they have the exact same core ideologies as the ratchets
first of all how you carry yourself goes a long way
Facts lol im hearing it too...just some old washed up used thots wit opinions
@@TruthandRealityUndefeatedwhy don't you just explore dating men, bc at the end of the day based off of your comment/ complaint your options are super slim.
24:20 but they always say "if you don't want me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best."
I appreciate the words of our sister in the pink when she said we should be there to support our spouses. That goes both ways.
The corny black dude vs the corny white dude 😂😂.....that insight fell on deaf ears. Would loved to have heard the panel of women address that comment.
This podcast was so much calmer I love it
glad you liked it!
There should have been a lot more pushback on this show. Sssssooooo many moments when the women were clearly 🧢, were super delusional, we’re talking sideways about black men or had their facts dead wrong.
C’mon brothers. Stand strong.
1:11:30 - I’m tired of all this conditional femininity talk. You either are or you aren’t.
Men don’t get to make that excuse. “I need a woman to bring the masculine energy out of me” how ridiculous does that sound?
What should we have pushed back more on?
Well god gave us all intuition and you should ALWAYS TRUST IT.. so I don’t feel comfortable around somebody your gonna tell me to basically let me guard down “be feminine “ no matter what because that’s what you feel that I should be doing naturally? Women are naturally feminine UNTIL they feel they uncomfortable and that’s been explained so many times and y’all (NOT ALL) still don’t get it…BUT for the women who just comes off super aggressive and etc she’s obviously traumatized and never healed from it which she needs to work on ….but I hate the fact that when we are GUARDED and we try to feel the situation or person out first y’all bash us for that and call us masculine…we are nice when we are being treated nice 💯💯💯💯 your the type if women getting beat and stomped and cursed out by a man you still expect her to stay and remain Feminine with a smile while she’s getting beat smh
@@DailyRapUpCrew there was a lot of their assessment of black men, especially early in the show that was demeaning and low key insulting. Y’all let a lot of those comments slide unchallenged.
They wasn’t talking ratchet enough lol
@@AlexMinor they were swooed by their Genjutsu of their college degrees. And it’s so many simps in the comments "this was the best conversation yet" "these women were so beautiful and wife ready" but yet the matchmaker looks just like Wendy Williams. I haven’t even watch the whole video, but I can tell you from following the matchmaker before on Instagram that all she does is shit on men. These other women come off as uppity, and they look down on black men. Sorry to say it, but the daily wrapup crew does not have the mental acuity to be able to push back on women who may read a book or two they (DWUC) are low level barometer and can only stand against your everyday Hoodbooger females, or a street ratchets.
I smiled this whole episode... Beautiful smart and succesful women
Thank you 🥰🥰🥰
The matchmaker looks like Wendy Williams, you think Wendy Williams is a beautiful woman?
she looks a beautiful version of her though
@flatbush9117 bro step your standards up and invest in a good pair of prescription glasses
A very enjoyable discussion with some pleasant, impressive ladies. It’s worth noting that despite their socioeconomic status, their mindsets did not differ significantly from those of any other female guests that have been on this show. Very telling of the times.
Thank-you very much, Madam. You understand perfectly! It doesn't matter about most of the socioeconomic classes because most come from very similar backgrounds, Mindsets, and environmentally listen to the same Info.
Rich men don't worry about a woman paying for part of trips,but it's amazing women want men to contribute.