Lately, I’ve been genuinely curious on this issue. Because Paul says that you can believe in vain in 1 Corinthians 15. 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And again in 2 Corinthians 13 l, where Paul says to examine ourselves. 5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates? Now, I’m far from a fan of Mike Winger, but this is what I imagine he’s trying to get across. And there has to be a difference between a true believer and a vain believer, otherwise Paul wouldn’t have addressed it.
Believing "in vain" is defined in verse 14 (i.e., those who don't believe Jesus rose from the dead). To derive context it is vital to read the entire book/chapter. All you have to do to know what Pail means by "believing in vain is to keep reading all the way down to verse 14. Paul isn't saying a person who sins has "believed in vain" as Winger and many other false teachers teach. And "examining yourself to see if you are in the faith" is Paul's warning to those who claim to be believers to examine what they believe about the Gospel not directing them to examine their works/behavior to determine the authenticity of their salvation as Winger and other false teachers teach.
the last person I talked to that used this "believing in vain" argument turned out to be a total apostate who did not believe salvation is a one time event.
@@mikeha I hope that’s not an accusation, just genuinely curious, that’s all. I know I’m eternally saved, by grace through faith. I’m just studying and trying to get more context. I may agree and I may disagree idk.
Basically he's saying spend the rest of your days in fear and bondage! Good grief!! Cause that's all this ppl have to offer they don't have the words of eternal life and peace. Praise God for his glorious truth that has set us free
What he's preaching, is literally what caused me to continue seeking the true Gospel of Salvation, the True Jesus Christ that promised ASSURANCE OF SALVATION, and Jesus Christ WILL NOT be mocked and called a "LIAR" by the likes of Mike Winger.
Amen! the sin issue was dealt with already. As Believers we trust IN HIM, NOT in ourselves. If the "camera" is pointing at us. Then something somewhere is wrong.
Thank you sir for the truth in Gospel and I am witness that when we are trusting in Jesus and His works not of ourselves, His shed blood not by our works. So this guy is all works based. He says a person must earn it not just trust Jesus by faith,.It is a gift.
Just got to witness to a couple of Mormons. They did not want to talk to me very long since I presented the true gospel. I did not get their names but I would ask that prayers be sent that they would repent of their unbelief. Thanks
Amen sister Sylvia all the praise honor Glory too God our Lord Savior Jesus Christ Messiah hallelujah God bless agape love family in Christ Jesus Messiah hallelujah 🙏👋💯👍🎯✝️📖🎁👩❤️💋👨🌈🎆🎺☁️🏡🐑👑🕊️🤍🌟
Thank You Brother for drawing precious Lambs back to Father's Heart of Grace and Love in the Son 💖 Religious Pharisees are as fallen Adam and Eve still hiding in the garden pointing self righteous fingers of accusation and guilt while promoting "fuzzy" confusing religious captivity . Dead flesh is futility!The flesh profits nothing. The Spirit is LIFE! He came to give us Himself - HIS Perfect Resurrection Christ LIFE 💖✝️🎁🕊 Amazing Grace - He did it all - He does it all Faith in His Perfect Obedient Work Alone We are ONE Reunited Life in the Body of the Son - At-ONE-ment But now He has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you HOLY UNBLEMISHED, and BLAMELESS in His presence Col 1 22 Amazing Grace Peace Family 🕊
Amen thank U brother Gregg run Forrest run Mark and avoid wing it praying for the people that are being so deceived 🙏God bless agape love family in Christ Jesus Messiah hallelujah all the praise honor Glory too God our Lord Savior Jesus Christ Messiah 🐕🐶👋👍💯🎯✝️📖🎁👩❤️💋👨🌈🎆🎺☁️🏡🐑👑🕊️🤍🌟
Mike wants us to battle against the flesh and not the pricipalities, leaders,King's decievers the word of Christ warned us off. Glad you see through Mike.
Thank you for making this video because people sadly need to know not to learn from him. Although he comes off as a kind friendly and charming guy. I also appreciate how processes ideas , except for salvation. Regardless your character and personality, those who are inwardly offended by the gospel, are who they are.
Thanks for another wolf alert! These guys used to upset me alot until people like brother Greg blows the whistle on them! Believe the gospel that Paul preached is all that's required to be saved and reconciled to God.
Mike's "antidote" to get out of his "scary zone" is exactly the *_poison_* that pushes believers with a weak conscience into a snare and the "affliction zone" and at the same time keeps seeking but not-yet-believers out of the "gospel zone" or even drives them away, because sinners already know in their hearts that they don't (can't) keep the law and just need the pure and unadulterated gospel of grace through _faith in Jesus alone,_ period!
Amen, Gregg. Ephisians 1:3-23 makes it clear that it is God's work, will, and pleasure, not ours. Galatians 2:20-21 also makes it clear not I who live but Christ liveth in me. And it is Christ who produces the fruit in and through us John 15:5. Romans 5:1-2 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:(2) by whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. Romans 5:10-11 For if,when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of His Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. (11) And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. Praise Jesus 🙌 This guy Mike winger is a real wing nut. Lol.
If Jesus sacrifice on the Cross of Calvary did not cover all sins, then the devil won the battle. I don't know who this guy is believing in. But my Jesus is the Almighty! He never loses!💪
The one thing God gives believers to take for the assurance of their eternal salvation is His written guarantee of the believer being in present possession of eternal life. He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life. Mike says, Nevermind that, let me give you something very subjective to take for your assurance. smh !!!
Ugh…..immediately felt uneasy with where he was taking this, and almost shut it off, but your commentary saw me through. Still feel like I need a shower though. Maybe a bath in the Word😂
For babes in Christ there is no reason to be scared of anything cause God did not give us a spirit of fear but of power and of love and of a sound mind. The only one who causes fear is the devil.
Yes he's a WOLF! 🐺 God is revealing and separating truth and error. Spiritual deception ramping up. Put your armor of Light on who is JESUS Romans 13:12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
A fruit inspector 😂 Yep met a lot of them. I've given up on going to church as its like visiting little house on the prairie. I just don't fit and I feel judged. Shame because I wanted real fellowship but I given up on that now. I'm happy but I do examine all my faults/sins and I will be the first to point them all out on judgement day. I think people a lot of christians) want to glorify themselves on how perfect they are. I think we should let God be the judge of who is saved he knows our hearts. ❤❤❤❤
I was laughing hard at title, Greg. I figured this guy was goofed up on the gospel. He often gives answers on doctrine, that makes people comfortable to what they probably already believe, so popular opinion essentially. Most christains and non athiests are comfortable believing they can earn their salvation. Anways, I am looking forward to a reaction series.
Gotta admit that it was really hard to watch that clip, Gregg. It just ticks me off to know people are listening to that guy(and so many others like him). It's no wonder people hate what they THINK is "Christianity"; messages like his just derails so many people. I cannot stand false teaching & the confusion & fear it creates. Ugh! Praying for all those who are being misled!🙏
Just by the title !! I used to listen to this guy years and years ago, and then I heard him admit he didn’t know about if Calvinism was true and if you can lose your salvation, I unsubscribed shortly thereafter , I was disappointed because as a babe in Christ I trusted him
Calvinism has little to do with assurance of salvation... Calvinists can't know if they are saved in first place.... If you have no works they say you didn't really believe
@@Naturesoothesme25 i dont know if we are arguing or not lol. I was just showing how Winger claims to not be sinning or looking at sin to presume salvation. but no one is righteous because we all sin. and if he says he is not sinning he is a liar. of course when we are in Christ sin is not accounted. and to be in Christ is to believe the Gospel. Hallelujah
"cause look at all the books" had me rolling 🤣 the double talk of you're saved by grace through faith BUT is never not nauseating. Also quoting such were some of you without reading the rest of the verse is criminal - a lot of these types tend to love to omit it, it's one of the best 'buts' in the bible but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified!
James said "I write these things that you may know....,know that you are saved". Not wonder, not fear that you're not, but instead know that you are saved. Calvinism doesn't teach that you may know. They say it's a grey area. Oh but they are saved. Because clearly they are saved. So it's a grey area but you know?
The true "Scary Zone" is muddled doctrine, AKA lukewarm doctrine, AKA drinking where the cold Law fountain water and the hot Grace fountain water are intermingling near Laodicea, making people sick... Simple solution, drink of the Living Waters, Christ Himself, and never thirst again -- no complication, no confusion. The "Scary Zone" is the false doctrine zone where you have "another gospel which is no gospel/good news" (Gal 1:6-7). "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind." (2 Tim 10:7) There is no fear when one truly believes salvation is by grace through faith, and puts their trust 100% in God. He is Almighty, so we can trust in His power; He is Love, so we can trust in His love/charity/mercy/grace; and we have confidence/sound mind instead of fear because we know it isn't about us, but about Him, and there is nothing to fear when He is our Redeemer and Keeper. The people lost in this kind of deception, listening to false teachers (whether legitimately confused/blinded or actively intentionally deceiving) need to be brought to saving faith and be shown the kind of peace and assurance that are possible when believing the actual simple Biblical gospel of grace. 2 Cor 11:3, “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.”
Wolf in Winged clothing right there. I heard him once or twice way back when like maybe 3 years ago when his vids came up in my feed. I smelled works and fruit inspecting right away. MARK AND AVOID Y'ALL.
False teachers like Mike love saying that faith in Jesus equals keeping the commandments. Faith in Jesus is simply putting all of your trust in who He says He is and what He's done for you. Period.
What terrible double speak this guy is. Bah. Hahahaha, you can sin but not too much? What kind of crap is that. Lucifer was kicked out of heaven for 1 sin, Adam was kicked out of the garden for 1 sin. Of course this thing is “fuzzy” All this is nothing more than watering down the Law to make it “keep-able” They don’t want the perfection that Jesus offers for free through His finished work. They want to say they don’t “sin as much”
It’s not just the pastor but in some churches the people going to church are fruit inspectors. Ask Christian’s why we need to go to church and half will say to be accountable or basically to judge everyone and be judged. And I heard a Calvary pastor say he is a fruit inspector at church.
why is this man a teacher if he can't even get something a child can understand right? he's probably more arminian than calvinist because I've seen his sermons where he gives non-calvinist interpretations.
He is a teacher because he is parroting what most other teachers are teaching. Aren't we all in a "fuzzy zone" or worse if we looks at ourselves to know we are saved instead of Jesus finished work and the power of God to save sinners.
It's sad because I used to listen to Mike. He's a very thoughtful, intelligent and kind as far as appearances go. However, after understanding and knowing that my salvation is secure, no matter what I do, his messages were very troubling. Galatians 1. Comes to mind. He is a troubler to those who have put their faith in Jesus alone and he causes many to turn to their own works to feel justified. But we know we don't rely on our feelings, But we have faith that Jesus is faithful and his promises are true. I think he will probably address your video. I have seen him address anyone who speaks out against him. It will be interesting to see what his rebuttal could be, but maybe something good will come of it.
Unbelievers: Isaiah 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. Believers: Romans 3:21-24 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: "Beleivers"plus filthy rags righteousness: Romans 10:3-4 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
It is the fruit of what someone believes. If someone believes the death, burial, and resurrection then we can assume that they are saved cause they believe what Christ has done for them. That sounds like fruit inspecting what he is saying. People like Mike Winger should read what Saul did in the old testament Saul lived his time in the flesh but he was still saved, he was still the Lord's anointed but he suffered the consequence by having himself walk in the flesh.
It’s such a pity. He did a wonderful video a while back on Brandon Biggs being a false prophet, but yeah, everyone I sent it to, had to add a disclaimer that his soteriology is not the pure gospel of grace.
Mike Wingnut is bearing bad fruit and is a hypocrite according to Matthew 7. Pray for the 800K subs to hear this message and for the scales of deception to fall away. There are no "fuzzy" areas about salvation or the Gospel. Luke 6:26 (KJV) Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.
Sadly, Winging it, is leading many to believe in a false gospel. Salvation is easy…Believe by faith in the finished work of what Jesus did at the cross , His death, burial and resurrection…and you shall be saved. GTF
I believe that George Washington was the 1st president of the united states. But my lifestyle doesn't show it, I don't have a bust of Washington in my house, I don't really read his speeches much. Maybe I didn't really believe, I don't know. See how ridiculous that argument is when applied to anything other than the gospel? It should be equally ridiculous with the gospel. You can certainly beleive something without your life showing it.
I understand why you’re saying what you’re saying, but Mike Winger stands pretty hard against Calvinism from what I’ve seen of him. 🤷🏻♂️ I say praise Jesus! He is king 👑 !
Umm....nope. You may not be clear yourself on the gospel. Mike Winger either is confused or just an outright tare who rejects the only way to be saved which is by simple, childlike faith in the gospel message. Only one requirement to be saved once and for all is to believe on Christ and what He accomplished on our behalf.
@@SalvationIsEasy-op2qsAs long as somebody is speaking out of both sides of his mouth, as well as out of the centre, they will have three times the audience - particularly if they don't major on any of the three positions. Winger appeals to intellectuals, apologists, Arminians, Calvinists. I wish he would just commit to the simple truth but it's hard to make a business at that, whether a pastor or RUclips channel - or both in his case. He bored me to sleep.
Lately, I’ve been genuinely curious on this issue. Because Paul says that you can believe in vain in 1 Corinthians 15.
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
And again in 2 Corinthians 13 l, where Paul says to examine ourselves.
5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
Now, I’m far from a fan of Mike Winger, but this is what I imagine he’s trying to get across. And there has to be a difference between a true believer and a vain believer, otherwise Paul wouldn’t have addressed it.
Believing "in vain" is defined in verse 14 (i.e., those who don't believe Jesus rose from the dead). To derive context it is vital to read the entire book/chapter. All you have to do to know what Pail means by "believing in vain is to keep reading all the way down to verse 14. Paul isn't saying a person who sins has "believed in vain" as Winger and many other false teachers teach.
And "examining yourself to see if you are in the faith" is Paul's warning to those who claim to be believers to examine what they believe about the Gospel not directing them to examine their works/behavior to determine the authenticity of their salvation as Winger and other false teachers teach.
gracevideoarchive.com/Gregg%20Jackson/What%20is%20believing%20in%20vain%EF%BC%9F.mp4
ruclips.net/video/ynbNWsiXNS4/видео.htmlsi=8Nn_cSSnibc6gYGg
the last person I talked to that used this "believing in vain" argument turned out to be a total apostate who did not believe salvation is a one time event.
@@mikeha I hope that’s not an accusation, just genuinely curious, that’s all. I know I’m eternally saved, by grace through faith. I’m just studying and trying to get more context. I may agree and I may disagree idk.
Amen saved by God's grace through faith in Jesus Christ as savior period
Basically he's saying spend the rest of your days in fear and bondage! Good grief!! Cause that's all this ppl have to offer they don't have the words of eternal life and peace. Praise God for his glorious truth that has set us free
What he's preaching, is literally what caused me to continue seeking the true Gospel of Salvation, the True Jesus Christ that promised ASSURANCE OF SALVATION, and Jesus Christ WILL NOT be mocked and called a "LIAR" by the likes of Mike Winger.
Thank you❤, there are sooo few who teach the beautiful, freeing, true gospel. What's so hard about its all about Jesus? He did it, He gets the glory.
Excellent word! So clear and simple is the true Gospel of Christ that some preachers can’t even deal with it. Thank you for your ministry!
Amen! the sin issue was dealt with already. As Believers we trust IN HIM, NOT in ourselves. If the "camera" is pointing at us. Then something somewhere is wrong.
Amen Gregg. Thanks for the video
Amen Brother Gregg. Thank you... Keep pointing to these false teachers and religious hypocrites. All glory to Jesus Christ 💕✨👋🏼🤓
Thank you sir for the truth in Gospel and I am witness that when we are trusting in Jesus and His works not of ourselves, His shed blood not by our works. So this guy is all works based. He says a person must earn it not just trust Jesus by faith,.It is a gift.
Just got to witness to a couple of Mormons. They did not want to talk to me very long since I presented the true gospel. I did not get their names but I would ask that prayers be sent that they would repent of their unbelief. Thanks
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You the man Gregg. Amen brother!
Amen Gregg, thank you for the great work you are doing here.
Stay close to Jesus like never.❤
Amen sister Sylvia all the praise honor Glory too God our Lord Savior Jesus Christ Messiah hallelujah God bless agape love family in Christ Jesus Messiah hallelujah 🙏👋💯👍🎯✝️📖🎁👩❤️💋👨🌈🎆🎺☁️🏡🐑👑🕊️🤍🌟
Thank You Brother for drawing precious Lambs back to Father's Heart of Grace and Love in the Son 💖
Religious Pharisees are as fallen Adam and Eve still hiding in the garden pointing self righteous fingers of accusation and guilt while promoting "fuzzy" confusing religious captivity . Dead flesh is futility!The flesh profits nothing. The Spirit is LIFE!
He came to give us Himself - HIS Perfect Resurrection Christ LIFE 💖✝️🎁🕊
Amazing Grace - He did it all - He does it all
Faith in His Perfect Obedient Work Alone
We are ONE Reunited Life in the Body of the Son - At-ONE-ment
But now He has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you HOLY UNBLEMISHED, and BLAMELESS in His presence Col 1 22
Amazing Grace Peace Family 🕊
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Always edified when listening and watching your vids .
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Amen & Thank you Gregg !!!
Amen thank U brother Gregg run Forrest run Mark and avoid wing it praying for the people that are being so deceived 🙏God bless agape love family in Christ Jesus Messiah hallelujah all the praise honor Glory too God our Lord Savior Jesus Christ Messiah 🐕🐶👋👍💯🎯✝️📖🎁👩❤️💋👨🌈🎆🎺☁️🏡🐑👑🕊️🤍🌟
Amen brother! I pray they will all come to a saving faith in Christ and teach the truth directly!
And he is a preacher..
Scary how many are sitting under his teaching and having their joy stolen . 😢
@@anabanana7599 for sure, he came in my feed a few years ago, and thankfully I spotted Him and the spirit revealed his message was false.
Mike wants us to battle against the flesh and not the pricipalities, leaders,King's decievers the word of Christ warned us off. Glad you see through Mike.
Love u Gregg.
,,, this is the day that the Lord has made ,,,
Sad but true!!!
Amen
Thank you for making this video because people sadly need to know not to learn from him. Although he comes off as a kind friendly and charming guy. I also appreciate how processes ideas , except for salvation. Regardless your character and personality, those who are inwardly offended by the gospel, are who they are.
Thanks for another wolf alert! These guys used to upset me alot until people like brother Greg blows the whistle on them! Believe the gospel that Paul preached is all that's required to be saved and reconciled to God.
Mike's "antidote" to get out of his "scary zone" is exactly the *_poison_* that pushes believers with a weak conscience into a snare and the "affliction zone" and at the same time keeps seeking but not-yet-believers out of the "gospel zone" or even drives them away, because sinners already know in their hearts that they don't (can't) keep the law and just need the pure and unadulterated gospel of grace through _faith in Jesus alone,_ period!
Mike "Anathema Maranatha" Winger is a prominent voice of hope and assurance. C'mon man!
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Gregg 😂 I'm cracking up over hear hockey player🎉
Amen, Gregg. Ephisians 1:3-23 makes it clear that it is God's work, will, and pleasure, not ours.
Galatians 2:20-21 also makes it clear not I who live but Christ liveth in me. And it is Christ who produces the fruit in and through us John 15:5. Romans 5:1-2
Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:(2) by whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
Romans 5:10-11
For if,when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of His Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. (11) And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.
Praise Jesus 🙌
This guy Mike winger is a real wing nut. Lol.
If Jesus sacrifice on the Cross of Calvary did not cover all sins, then the devil won the battle.
I don't know who this guy is believing in. But my Jesus is the Almighty! He never loses!💪
The whole world is invested with this calvinistic crap.
Amen ❤ If you believe that Jesus Christ died for our sins, was buried, and raised to life on the third day, you will be saved. 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 ✞
He's got his special measuring stick!
Himself
I wasted DECADES on this type of crap. Makes me so angry.
Mike Winger causes confusion to baby believers. The gospel is simple. It’s not grace and works. It’s all grace.
I believe he's an offspring of John Barnett. I Marked & Avoided them all a L-O-N-G time ago. AGTG! Thank you, Gregg.
He is...
"Danger Zone" kenny loggins! 😂😅😂
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There hard to listen to, usually I just skip over them . Bless you and your family Gregg.
The one thing God gives believers to take for the assurance of their eternal salvation is His written guarantee of the believer being in present possession of eternal life. He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life. Mike says, Nevermind that, let me give you something very subjective to take for your assurance. smh !!!
Ugh…..immediately felt uneasy with where he was taking this, and almost shut it off, but your commentary saw me through. Still feel like I need a shower though. Maybe a bath in the Word😂
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For babes in Christ there is no reason to be scared of anything cause God did not give us a spirit of fear but of power and of love and of a sound mind. The only one who causes fear is the devil.
The devil and his minions like Mike Winger...🤣
Mike thinks God is mad at his children when i heard that i ran from his teachings
Can you explain galatians 5:21 to me brother please. Sorry if it’s a stupid question but it’d put my mind at ease. Thank you. Great vid.
Yes he's a WOLF! 🐺 God is revealing and separating truth and error. Spiritual deception ramping up. Put your armor of Light on who is JESUS Romans 13:12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
A fruit inspector 😂
Yep met a lot of them. I've given up on going to church as its like visiting little house on the prairie. I just don't fit and I feel judged. Shame because I wanted real fellowship but I given up on that now. I'm happy but I do examine all my faults/sins and I will be the first to point them all out on judgement day. I think people a lot of christians) want to glorify themselves on how perfect they are. I think we should let God be the judge of who is saved he knows our hearts. ❤❤❤❤
I was laughing hard at title, Greg. I figured this guy was goofed up on the gospel. He often gives answers on doctrine, that makes people comfortable to what they probably already believe, so popular opinion essentially. Most christains and non athiests are comfortable believing they can earn their salvation. Anways, I am looking forward to a reaction series.
Amen, Philippian Jailer- NOT - Believe and do all these works. OSAS. Blessings 😊
Spencer Smith is another to avoid, preaches fruit inspections and living/being holy
👍 Definitely, I use to be subbed and a member for many years . Thank God he opened my eyes to this false teacher.
Gotta admit that it was really hard to watch that clip, Gregg. It just ticks me off to know people are listening to that guy(and so many others like him). It's no wonder people hate what they THINK is "Christianity"; messages like his just derails so many people. I cannot stand false teaching & the confusion & fear it creates. Ugh! Praying for all those who are being misled!🙏
Just "FUZZY " Calvanism .
Just by the title !! I used to listen to this guy years and years ago, and then I heard him admit he didn’t know about if Calvinism was true and if you can lose your salvation, I unsubscribed shortly thereafter , I was disappointed because as a babe in Christ I trusted him
Calvinism has little to do with assurance of salvation... Calvinists can't know if they are saved in first place.... If you have no works they say you didn't really believe
This guy's just winging it 😂😂
I heard Winger one time reading he couldn't decide if OSAS was true or not. He has no business being in the pulpit.
1 John 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin:
And he said we are all unrighteous !
@@Naturesoothesme25 i dont know if we are arguing or not lol.
I was just showing how Winger claims to not be sinning or looking at sin to presume salvation. but no one is righteous because we all sin. and if he says he is not sinning he is a liar.
of course when we are in Christ sin is not accounted. and to be in Christ is to believe the Gospel. Hallelujah
"cause look at all the books" had me rolling 🤣 the double talk of you're saved by grace through faith BUT is never not nauseating. Also quoting such were some of you without reading the rest of the verse is criminal - a lot of these types tend to love to omit it, it's one of the best 'buts' in the bible but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified!
James said "I write these things that you may know....,know that you are saved". Not wonder, not fear that you're not, but instead know that you are saved. Calvinism doesn't teach that you may know. They say it's a grey area. Oh but they are saved. Because clearly they are saved. So it's a grey area but you know?
Pardon me. It says that in 1 John 5:13. He says it in the video
The true "Scary Zone" is muddled doctrine, AKA lukewarm doctrine, AKA drinking where the cold Law fountain water and the hot Grace fountain water are intermingling near Laodicea, making people sick... Simple solution, drink of the Living Waters, Christ Himself, and never thirst again -- no complication, no confusion. The "Scary Zone" is the false doctrine zone where you have "another gospel which is no gospel/good news" (Gal 1:6-7). "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind." (2 Tim 10:7) There is no fear when one truly believes salvation is by grace through faith, and puts their trust 100% in God. He is Almighty, so we can trust in His power; He is Love, so we can trust in His love/charity/mercy/grace; and we have confidence/sound mind instead of fear because we know it isn't about us, but about Him, and there is nothing to fear when He is our Redeemer and Keeper.
The people lost in this kind of deception, listening to false teachers (whether legitimately confused/blinded or actively intentionally deceiving) need to be brought to saving faith and be shown the kind of peace and assurance that are possible when believing the actual simple Biblical gospel of grace. 2 Cor 11:3, “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.”
Amen 🙏 well said
Typical calvary chapel
Wolf in Winged clothing right there. I heard him once or twice way back when like maybe 3 years ago when his vids came up in my feed. I smelled works and fruit inspecting right away. MARK AND AVOID Y'ALL.
False teachers like Mike love saying that faith in Jesus equals keeping the commandments. Faith in Jesus is simply putting all of your trust in who He says He is and what He's done for you. Period.
He took this from one of the Q&A,s with RC Sproul. 💯 Calvinistic. He is bad news. I’m glad I never invested any time with him.
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Bad News is an understatement
I keep getting recommendations for him and I'm not liking it.
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When it comes up again. Tell UT not to recommend. 👍
What terrible double speak this guy is. Bah.
Hahahaha, you can sin but not too much? What kind of crap is that. Lucifer was kicked out of heaven for 1 sin, Adam was kicked out of the garden for 1 sin.
Of course this thing is “fuzzy” All this is nothing more than watering down the Law to make it “keep-able”
They don’t want the perfection that Jesus offers for free through His finished work. They want to say they don’t “sin as much”
So true brother, "watering down the Law to make it “keep-able". Friggin laughable, they are not wore out in their flesh., they think it is still good.
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What a muddled mess this guy Mike Winger is! Smh 🤦♀️.
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It’s not just the pastor but in some churches the people going to church are fruit inspectors. Ask Christian’s why we need to go to church and half will say to be accountable or basically to judge everyone and be judged. And I heard a Calvary pastor say he is a fruit inspector at church.
Sad but true
why is this man a teacher if he can't even get something a child can understand right? he's probably more arminian than calvinist because I've seen his sermons where he gives non-calvinist interpretations.
Well. What he is teaching here is boilerplate Calvinism...
He is a teacher because he is parroting what most other teachers are teaching. Aren't we all in a "fuzzy zone" or worse if we looks at ourselves to know we are saved instead of Jesus finished work and the power of God to save sinners.
Calvinists love talking about fuzzy areas when it comes to salvation
And they never say they doubt their own salvation...it's only YOU that should be concerned...
It's sad because I used to listen to Mike. He's a very thoughtful, intelligent and kind as far as appearances go. However, after understanding and knowing that my salvation is secure, no matter what I do, his messages were very troubling. Galatians 1. Comes to mind. He is a troubler to those who have put their faith in Jesus alone and he causes many to turn to their own works to feel justified. But we know we don't rely on our feelings, But we have faith that Jesus is faithful and his promises are true. I think he will probably address your video. I have seen him address anyone who speaks out against him. It will be interesting to see what his rebuttal could be, but maybe something good will come of it.
No chance he will address my video. I'm too small of a channel...
Unbelievers:
Isaiah 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
Believers:
Romans 3:21-24 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
"Beleivers"plus filthy rags righteousness:
Romans 10:3-4 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Idk why these guys have a pathological need to complicate the gospel. Just believe one time and you’re saved as a free gift.
Not according to Mike The Tare
Sickening!!
blind leading the blind smh
It is the fruit of what someone believes. If someone believes the death, burial, and resurrection then we can assume that they are saved cause they believe what Christ has done for them. That sounds like fruit inspecting what he is saying. People like Mike Winger should read what Saul did in the old testament Saul lived his time in the flesh but he was still saved, he was still the Lord's anointed but he suffered the consequence by having himself walk in the flesh.
Mike has read it. He just doesn't believe it.
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It’s such a pity. He did a wonderful video a while back on Brandon Biggs being a false prophet, but yeah, everyone I sent it to, had to add a disclaimer that his soteriology is not the pure gospel of grace.
People are better off reading the scripture and not going to institutional church. We only watch free grace sermon son RUclips anymore...
Agreed
Yeah no thank you. Lived like that for years. Always worried I did something to lose my salvation. Never going back to that. This guy is horrible.
Horrendous
Mike Wingnut is bearing bad fruit and is a hypocrite according to Matthew 7. Pray for the 800K subs to hear this message and for the scales of deception to fall away. There are no "fuzzy" areas about salvation or the Gospel.
Luke 6:26 (KJV) Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.
Sadly, Winging it, is leading many to believe in a false gospel. Salvation is easy…Believe by faith in the finished work of what Jesus did at the cross , His death, burial and resurrection…and you shall be saved. GTF
"The Good Fuzzy" is not an accurate translation of The Gospel.
Indeed
I believe that George Washington was the 1st president of the united states. But my lifestyle doesn't show it, I don't have a bust of Washington in my house, I don't really read his speeches much. Maybe I didn't really believe, I don't know.
See how ridiculous that argument is when applied to anything other than the gospel? It should be equally ridiculous with the gospel. You can certainly beleive something without your life showing it.
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He’s a def mark and avoid……. When I see his face …. Oh hell nawwwww
Terrible exigese.
By me?
Lol gregg mike will not listen to you! You dont have books in the background with a framed seminary degree on the wall 😂
I understand why you’re saying what you’re saying, but Mike Winger stands pretty hard against Calvinism from what I’ve seen of him.
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I say praise Jesus! He is king 👑 !
Umm....nope. You may not be clear yourself on the gospel.
Mike Winger either is confused or just an outright tare who rejects the only way to be saved which is by simple, childlike faith in the gospel message. Only one requirement to be saved once and for all is to believe on Christ and what He accomplished on our behalf.
He may claim to but he actually teaches it here in this video...
@@SalvationIsEasy-op2qsAs long as somebody is speaking out of both sides of his mouth, as well as out of the centre, they will have three times the audience - particularly if they don't major on any of the three positions. Winger appeals to intellectuals, apologists, Arminians, Calvinists.
I wish he would just commit to the simple truth but it's hard to make a business at that, whether a pastor or RUclips channel - or both in his case.
He bored me to sleep.
Amen. Gregg, thank you! ❤